Re: Pssst! [Kotlin Support]

2021-10-10 Thread Eric Bresie 
So what are the options for this?  Bring it in as a “cluster”, merge it,
break it out and manage as an independent (and publish to the new plug-in
center) plug-in?

Eric

On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 4:02 PM Christian Lenz 
wrote:

> There is this branch
> https://github.com/apache/netbeans/tree/kotlin-donation but last changes
> were in Dezember last year.
>
> Von: Eric Bresie
> Gesendet: Sonntag, 10. Oktober 2021 16:25
> An: Netbeans Developer List
> Betreff: Re: Pssst! [Kotlin Support]
>
> I was talking about references to Kotlin like (1),(3),(5).
>
> As I understand it, there is some basic functionality (highlight/coloring,
> editing), some of which involved a Kotlin plugin originally developed by
> JetBrain (4) which was not being maintained and was being donated to the
> Apache Netbeans group.  Based on the PR (2), it seems like it was accepted
> but not sure if it was in a branch or in mainline Netbeans master.
>
> References
> (1)
>
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/rdacdb451a163a12c77850dd18877f1ecce9de5468aed030a063cc303%40%3Cdev.netbeans.apache.org%3E
> (2) https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/1398
> (3)
>
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/7b94ee7479bd09532243bef45af528f730dcbb6256c7f10dc2de0d89%40%3Cdev.netbeans.apache.org%3E
> (4) https://github.com/JetBrains/kotlin-netbeans/issues
> (5)
>
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/rb43470160dcee184837623eddb29defcb0410c02fb71b7607d816225%40%3Cdev.netbeans.apache.org%3E
>
> Eric Bresie
> ebre...@gmail.com
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 8:42 AM Emilian Bold 
> wrote:
>
> > Looks like Kotlin is working as intended and funneling people into
> > IntelliJ.
> >
> > --emi
> >
> > On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 5:38 AM Owen Thomas 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > I have found myself cajoled into using IntelliJ because it allows one
> to
> > use Java and Kotlin sources simultaneously. To do this however, I have
> had
> > to create a new project using Gradle and copy my Java sources to this new
> > project because IntelliJ thumbs it's nose at Ant projects. So, now I am
> > pondering the prospect of continuing with the Ant project in NetBeans and
> > discarding the Kotlin sources, or making the transition to Gradle (and
> > perhaps IntelliJ) permanent. The second option (minus the move to
> IntelliJ
> > perhaps) is inevitable, but I do feel as though IntelliJ is making the
> > decision on what is an appropriate build tool for me at a time when I do
> > not think it necessary to entertain such a move.
> > >
> > > I'd like it better if NetBeans was able to intermix Kotlin and Java in
> a
> > way similar to IntelliJ, but without making a judgement call on what
> build
> > tool I choose to use.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, 10 Oct 2021 at 00:23, Eric Bresie  wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Unrelated but at some point, there was discussion of integrating
> Kotlin
> > support (I believe donated by JetBrain developer)…did anything further
> > happen with that?
> > >>
> > >> Or is Kotlin another candidate for “new LSP language implementation”?
> > >>
> > >> Eric
> > >>
> > >> On Fri, Oct 8, 2021 at 11:03 PM Owen Thomas <
> owen.paul.tho...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Okay... I make a provisional withdrawal and reserve the right to
> > reassert.
> > >>>
> > >>> On Fri, 8 Oct 2021 at 18:59, Owen Thomas  >
> > wrote:
> > 
> >  Java and Kotlin interoperability is a fabrication. Stick with Java
> or
> > stick with Kotlin. Don't try it; it will only lead one to rip one's face
> > off.
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Eric Bresie
> > >> ebre...@gmail.com
> >
> > -
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> >
> >
>
> --
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AW: Community Plugins Page

2021-10-10 Thread Christian Lenz 
Yeah the shutdown of the old plugin portal was a big loss. It would be better 
to had a read only plugin portal as we have it for the old bugzilla page but it 
is as it is. I also wanted to try out old plugins and the only way, when they 
are not on gitHub or anywhere else is the backup you can see here: 
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Where+to+download+plugins+for+NetBeans+10.0+and+earlier
 I think all the catalogs and plugins are hosted by Emilian Bold. 

Von: Eric Bresie
Gesendet: Sonntag, 10. Oktober 2021 17:05
An: Netbeans Developer List
Betreff: Community Plugins Page

I was reviewing some content on the confluence page and noticed the
community plugin page is in need of some updates.  It seems many of the
links are no longer good.

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Community+plugins


I know with the migration to Apache and the move to new plugin center, this
may be pretty out of date but was wondering if anyone is able to provide
updates to any of the applicable plugins and where they may be available if
still there (maybe archive plugin site) or new plugin site, or current
status (i.e. awaiting some donation, orphan projects, etc.)

On a side note, how does a person get permissions to update the confluence
page?

Eric Bresie
ebre...@gmail.com

AW: Pssst! [Kotlin Support]

2021-10-10 Thread Christian Lenz 
There is this branch https://github.com/apache/netbeans/tree/kotlin-donation 
but last changes were in Dezember last year.

Von: Eric Bresie
Gesendet: Sonntag, 10. Oktober 2021 16:25
An: Netbeans Developer List
Betreff: Re: Pssst! [Kotlin Support]

I was talking about references to Kotlin like (1),(3),(5).

As I understand it, there is some basic functionality (highlight/coloring,
editing), some of which involved a Kotlin plugin originally developed by
JetBrain (4) which was not being maintained and was being donated to the
Apache Netbeans group.  Based on the PR (2), it seems like it was accepted
but not sure if it was in a branch or in mainline Netbeans master.

References
(1)
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/rdacdb451a163a12c77850dd18877f1ecce9de5468aed030a063cc303%40%3Cdev.netbeans.apache.org%3E
(2) https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/1398
(3)
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/7b94ee7479bd09532243bef45af528f730dcbb6256c7f10dc2de0d89%40%3Cdev.netbeans.apache.org%3E
(4) https://github.com/JetBrains/kotlin-netbeans/issues
(5)
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/rb43470160dcee184837623eddb29defcb0410c02fb71b7607d816225%40%3Cdev.netbeans.apache.org%3E

Eric Bresie
ebre...@gmail.com


On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 8:42 AM Emilian Bold  wrote:

> Looks like Kotlin is working as intended and funneling people into
> IntelliJ.
>
> --emi
>
> On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 5:38 AM Owen Thomas 
> wrote:
> >
> > I have found myself cajoled into using IntelliJ because it allows one to
> use Java and Kotlin sources simultaneously. To do this however, I have had
> to create a new project using Gradle and copy my Java sources to this new
> project because IntelliJ thumbs it's nose at Ant projects. So, now I am
> pondering the prospect of continuing with the Ant project in NetBeans and
> discarding the Kotlin sources, or making the transition to Gradle (and
> perhaps IntelliJ) permanent. The second option (minus the move to IntelliJ
> perhaps) is inevitable, but I do feel as though IntelliJ is making the
> decision on what is an appropriate build tool for me at a time when I do
> not think it necessary to entertain such a move.
> >
> > I'd like it better if NetBeans was able to intermix Kotlin and Java in a
> way similar to IntelliJ, but without making a judgement call on what build
> tool I choose to use.
> >
> >
> > On Sun, 10 Oct 2021 at 00:23, Eric Bresie  wrote:
> >>
> >> Unrelated but at some point, there was discussion of integrating Kotlin
> support (I believe donated by JetBrain developer)…did anything further
> happen with that?
> >>
> >> Or is Kotlin another candidate for “new LSP language implementation”?
> >>
> >> Eric
> >>
> >> On Fri, Oct 8, 2021 at 11:03 PM Owen Thomas 
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Okay... I make a provisional withdrawal and reserve the right to
> reassert.
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, 8 Oct 2021 at 18:59, Owen Thomas 
> wrote:
> 
>  Java and Kotlin interoperability is a fabrication. Stick with Java or
> stick with Kotlin. Don't try it; it will only lead one to rip one's face
> off.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Eric Bresie
> >> ebre...@gmail.com
>
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Re: [Java Hint Usage] Release Apache Netbeans Standalone Java Hints Tool 12.5

2021-10-10 Thread Michael Bien 

sure, tools -> options -> editor -> hits -> jdk migration support

there are some complementary rules in the jackpot-inspections project, 
e.g in the Deprecations.hint file.


if you want an example for a non trivial backwards migration:
https://github.com/oracle/nb-javac/pull/12/files#diff-e049ed3969da8adf6c1d4fc54948567c0bb0cee55d8f6d8f010a02a817a3e545

-michael


On 10.10.21 16:30, Eric Bresie wrote:

That does help. Thanks Michael.

Are there hints for migrating between java versions?  Or is that in 
baseline Netbeans or nb-javac context?


Eric Bresie
ebre...@gmail.com


On Sat, Oct 9, 2021 at 9:25 AM Michael Bien  wrote:

jackpot is "just" a library which happens to be the refactoring
engine
of NetBeans.

It can be used in NB, outside NB and certainly also via the language
server protocol.
It can inspect code and print warnings. But it can also inspect
code and
suggest refactorings since it is a tool built on top of javac.


The result of this all can be a simple warning in your shell/of your
build, a light bulb in NetBeans or a generated patch from a
command line
tool.

here an old blog entry young me wrote over a decade ago (using
jackpot
via CLI):
https://mbien.dev/blog/entry/you_have_won_the_jackpot

readme explains where to put the hint files if used in NB:
https://github.com/mbien/jackpot-inspections

sidenote: the code inspections shipped with NB don't really use hint
files, the rules are put in annotations but that is a minor detail.

hope that helps,
michael


On 09.10.21 14:58, Eric Bresie wrote:
> Always welcome to have guidance with java development. Good job…
>
> I found the netbeans jackpot site
(https://netbeans.apache.org/jackpot/) to
> be a good starting point for additional information on this. But
I had
> follow up question w…what is the use case for jackpot. Is it
intended to be
>
> (1) part of netbeans (if so why is it being released separate
from netbeans
> and/or nb-javac module),
> (2) plugin for netbeans,
> (3) a component of netbeans platform usable elsewhere (i.e. in other
> applications - VSCode?), or
> (4) a build add on (i.e. mvn) to run during compilation and/or
build time
> to provide hints going forward?
> (5) all of the above
>
> Assume this also allows user defined rules to be added, but not
sure if
> that is for specific user environments (where they added new
rules) or is
> the intent new rules are added and integrated back into jackpot
rule set?
>
> Eric
>
> On Sat, Oct 9, 2021 at 1:47 AM Jan Lahoda  wrote:
>
>> Thanks everyone for checks/reviews and votes!
>>
>> The vote passes with 3 +1 votes and no 0 or -1 votes:
>> Matthias Bläsing
>> Eric Barboni
>> Jaroslav Tulach
>>
>> I'll proceed with publishing the release.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Jan
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 6, 2021 at 2:02 PM Jaroslav Tulach

>> wrote:
>>
>>> +1 (binding)
>>>
>>> Downloaded, verified signature and sha and tested the staged
>>> `tool-12.5.jar` in my project:
>>> https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/3206
>>> -jt 
>>>
>>>
>>> ne 3. 10. 2021 v 11:13 odesílatel Jan Lahoda
 napsal:
>>>
 Dear all,

 I'd like to release the standalone Java Hints tool
("jackpot") based on
 Apache NetBeans 12.5.

 The release is here:


>>

https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans-jackpot/netbeans-jackpot-12.5-vc1/apache-netbeans-jackpot-12.5.zip
 Signature file:


>>

https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans-jackpot/netbeans-jackpot-12.5-vc1/apache-netbeans-jackpot-12.5.zip.asc
 SHA512:


>>

1ff544f9c24f79e2835c43303d826b6e1fcee700fc14772141adf9302a8a74299ec0c33a29476964323a637572b62619f21453fa6ffcdcee34aac4440103362d
   ./apache-netbeans-jackpot-12.5.zip

 KEYS file:

 https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/netbeans/KEYS

 Apache NetBeans Jackpot 3.0 Git Repo tag:


>>

https://github.com/apache/netbeans-jackpot30/releases/tag/netbeans-jackpot-12.5-vc1
 Convenience binaries:
 -built standalone tool:


>>

https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans-jackpot/netbeans-jackpot-12.5-vc1/apache-netbeans-jackpot-12.5-bin.zip
 Its signature file:


>>

https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans-jackpot/netbeans-jackpot-12.5-vc1/apache-netbeans-jackpot-12.5-bin.zip.asc
 and its SHA512:


>>

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2021-10-10 Thread Jeremy Cavanagh 
If you do read this I apologize. I'm in the process dumping Orange and
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technical changes in thunderbird. So I'm testing if I've got it right
and the only way is to send messages to see if they have the correct
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Re: travis build unstable

2021-10-10 Thread Eric Bresie 
These were some of the issues mentioned previously (1), (2), (3).  Maybe
some of those can help.

I believe during travis build on one set of tests there seem to be some
files that are in use which cause some failures due to locked files...I
hypothesized the gradle daemon running with different java versions and/or
some concurrent jobs elsewhere may result in some locked files but that's
just a guess.  There may be gradle daemon flags that can be added to make
things not use the daemon which maybe could help but that also is a guess.

(1)
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/r944d5e9e79b6abdf9337293f417c3b51229e8b7d7989833028328359%40%3Cdev.netbeans.apache.org%3E
(2)
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/rcddd3063fb087fb894eeea38b6c555c802c4412e15a27ada1b4dccbe%40%3Cdev.netbeans.apache.org%3E
(3)
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/r4d99f87f7e23c2cd2f1e6997e00e93ebd51cd5a640ad555d137402c9%40%3Cdev.netbeans.apache.org%3E

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On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 10:35 AM Svata Dedic 
wrote:

> Dne 04. 10. 21 v 15:20 Eric Barboni napsal(a):
> > But now the sub job "Test Java modules with nb-javac on Java 8" fail with
> > the following on regular basis on several PR.
> > "hide-logs.sh ant $OPTS -f java/gradle.java test" exited with 1.
>
> In several of my PRs the Gradle's JavaExecToken* test is failing. Will
> fix as soon as I finish my current task.
>
> -S.
>
>
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Re: Community Plugins Page

2021-10-10 Thread Geertjan Wielenga 
What is your Confluence user name? Provide it and I'll give you access to
change the NetBeans Confluence pages.

Gj

On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 5:05 PM Eric Bresie  wrote:

> I was reviewing some content on the confluence page and noticed the
> community plugin page is in need of some updates.  It seems many of the
> links are no longer good.
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Community+plugins
>
>
> I know with the migration to Apache and the move to new plugin center, this
> may be pretty out of date but was wondering if anyone is able to provide
> updates to any of the applicable plugins and where they may be available if
> still there (maybe archive plugin site) or new plugin site, or current
> status (i.e. awaiting some donation, orphan projects, etc.)
>
> On a side note, how does a person get permissions to update the confluence
> page?
>
> Eric Bresie
> ebre...@gmail.com
>

Community Plugins Page

2021-10-10 Thread Eric Bresie 
I was reviewing some content on the confluence page and noticed the
community plugin page is in need of some updates.  It seems many of the
links are no longer good.

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Community+plugins


I know with the migration to Apache and the move to new plugin center, this
may be pretty out of date but was wondering if anyone is able to provide
updates to any of the applicable plugins and where they may be available if
still there (maybe archive plugin site) or new plugin site, or current
status (i.e. awaiting some donation, orphan projects, etc.)

On a side note, how does a person get permissions to update the confluence
page?

Eric Bresie
ebre...@gmail.com

Re: What's the latest JDK that can compile NetBeans?

2021-10-10 Thread Eric Bresie 
Assuming this has to do with this bug

NETBEANS-4168 Handling Nashorn Removal inline with JDK 15
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-4168


Eric Bresie
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On Wed, Oct 6, 2021 at 8:25 AM Jaroslav Tulach 
wrote:

> What's the latest JDK NetBeans should be compilable with? The latest!
>
> Obviously it is not the case right now. Then it is a bug and anyone is
> welcomed to fix it.
> -jt
>
>
> st 6. 10. 2021 v 1:34 odesílatel Scott Palmer  napsal:
>
> > I followed the instructions here:
> >
> > https://netbeans.apache.org/download/dev/index.html
> >
> > Trying to build with JDK 17, but it failed:
> >
> > BUILD FAILED
> > /Users/scott/dev/netbeans/nbbuild/build.xml:258: The following error
> > occurred while executing this line:
> > /Users/scott/dev/netbeans/nbbuild/build/langtools/make/build.xml:91:
> > Unable to create javax script engine for javascript
> >
> > I suspect the removal of Nashorn from JDK 15 is the issue?  That was a
> few
> > releases ago, so if we know how to build NB with JDK 15+ where are the
> > instructions?
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Scott
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -
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> >
> > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit:
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

Re: [Java Hint Usage] Release Apache Netbeans Standalone Java Hints Tool 12.5

2021-10-10 Thread Eric Bresie 
That does help. Thanks Michael.

Are there hints for migrating between java versions?  Or is that in
baseline Netbeans or nb-javac context?

Eric Bresie
ebre...@gmail.com


On Sat, Oct 9, 2021 at 9:25 AM Michael Bien  wrote:

> jackpot is "just" a library which happens to be the refactoring engine
> of NetBeans.
>
> It can be used in NB, outside NB and certainly also via the language
> server protocol.
> It can inspect code and print warnings. But it can also inspect code and
> suggest refactorings since it is a tool built on top of javac.
>
>
> The result of this all can be a simple warning in your shell/of your
> build, a light bulb in NetBeans or a generated patch from a command line
> tool.
>
> here an old blog entry young me wrote over a decade ago (using jackpot
> via CLI):
> https://mbien.dev/blog/entry/you_have_won_the_jackpot
>
> readme explains where to put the hint files if used in NB:
> https://github.com/mbien/jackpot-inspections
>
> sidenote: the code inspections shipped with NB don't really use hint
> files, the rules are put in annotations but that is a minor detail.
>
> hope that helps,
> michael
>
>
> On 09.10.21 14:58, Eric Bresie wrote:
> > Always welcome to have guidance with java development.  Good job…
> >
> > I found the netbeans jackpot site (https://netbeans.apache.org/jackpot/)
> to
> > be a good starting point for additional information on this. But I had
> > follow up question w…what is the use case for jackpot.  Is it intended
> to be
> >
> > (1) part of netbeans (if so why is it being released separate from
> netbeans
> > and/or nb-javac module),
> > (2) plugin for netbeans,
> > (3) a component of netbeans platform usable elsewhere (i.e. in other
> > applications - VSCode?), or
> > (4) a build add on (i.e. mvn) to run during compilation and/or build time
> > to provide hints going forward?
> > (5) all of the above
> >
> > Assume this also allows user defined rules to be added, but not sure if
> > that is for specific user environments (where they added new rules) or is
> > the intent new rules are added and integrated back into jackpot rule set?
> >
> > Eric
> >
> > On Sat, Oct 9, 2021 at 1:47 AM Jan Lahoda  wrote:
> >
> >> Thanks everyone for checks/reviews and votes!
> >>
> >> The vote passes with 3 +1 votes and no 0 or -1 votes:
> >> Matthias Bläsing
> >> Eric Barboni
> >> Jaroslav Tulach
> >>
> >> I'll proceed with publishing the release.
> >>
> >> Thanks!
> >>
> >> Jan
> >>
> >> On Wed, Oct 6, 2021 at 2:02 PM Jaroslav Tulach <
> jaroslav.tul...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> +1 (binding)
> >>>
> >>> Downloaded, verified signature and sha and tested the staged
> >>> `tool-12.5.jar` in my project:
> >>> https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/3206
> >>> -jt 
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ne 3. 10. 2021 v 11:13 odesílatel Jan Lahoda 
> napsal:
> >>>
>  Dear all,
> 
>  I'd like to release the standalone Java Hints tool ("jackpot") based
> on
>  Apache NetBeans 12.5.
> 
>  The release is here:
> 
> 
> >>
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans-jackpot/netbeans-jackpot-12.5-vc1/apache-netbeans-jackpot-12.5.zip
>  Signature file:
> 
> 
> >>
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans-jackpot/netbeans-jackpot-12.5-vc1/apache-netbeans-jackpot-12.5.zip.asc
>  SHA512:
> 
> 
> >>
> 1ff544f9c24f79e2835c43303d826b6e1fcee700fc14772141adf9302a8a74299ec0c33a29476964323a637572b62619f21453fa6ffcdcee34aac4440103362d
>    ./apache-netbeans-jackpot-12.5.zip
> 
>  KEYS file:
> 
>  https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/netbeans/KEYS
> 
>  Apache NetBeans Jackpot 3.0 Git Repo tag:
> 
> 
> >>
> https://github.com/apache/netbeans-jackpot30/releases/tag/netbeans-jackpot-12.5-vc1
>  Convenience binaries:
>  -built standalone tool:
> 
> 
> >>
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans-jackpot/netbeans-jackpot-12.5-vc1/apache-netbeans-jackpot-12.5-bin.zip
>  Its signature file:
> 
> 
> >>
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans-jackpot/netbeans-jackpot-12.5-vc1/apache-netbeans-jackpot-12.5-bin.zip.asc
>  and its SHA512:
> 
> 
> >>
> 4905d2c044cd0251854046d042586ffb7ea092d09a495a8b605a640e9c4f45d45b7a60026af4a6ef9b26ffe054d676d8768d106d5e62b119ad9f9546f56c9551
>    ./apache-netbeans-jackpot-12.5-bin.zip
> 
>  -there is also a plugin staging Maven repository here:
> 
> >>
> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachenetbeans-1091/
>  This vote is going to be open at least 72 hours, please vote with +1,
> >> 0,
>  and -1 as usual.
> 
>  Thanks for any feedback!
> 
>  Jan
> 
>
>

Re: Pssst! [Kotlin Support]

2021-10-10 Thread Eric Bresie 
I was talking about references to Kotlin like (1),(3),(5).

As I understand it, there is some basic functionality (highlight/coloring,
editing), some of which involved a Kotlin plugin originally developed by
JetBrain (4) which was not being maintained and was being donated to the
Apache Netbeans group.  Based on the PR (2), it seems like it was accepted
but not sure if it was in a branch or in mainline Netbeans master.

References
(1)
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/rdacdb451a163a12c77850dd18877f1ecce9de5468aed030a063cc303%40%3Cdev.netbeans.apache.org%3E
(2) https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/1398
(3)
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/7b94ee7479bd09532243bef45af528f730dcbb6256c7f10dc2de0d89%40%3Cdev.netbeans.apache.org%3E
(4) https://github.com/JetBrains/kotlin-netbeans/issues
(5)
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/rb43470160dcee184837623eddb29defcb0410c02fb71b7607d816225%40%3Cdev.netbeans.apache.org%3E

Eric Bresie
ebre...@gmail.com


On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 8:42 AM Emilian Bold  wrote:

> Looks like Kotlin is working as intended and funneling people into
> IntelliJ.
>
> --emi
>
> On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 5:38 AM Owen Thomas 
> wrote:
> >
> > I have found myself cajoled into using IntelliJ because it allows one to
> use Java and Kotlin sources simultaneously. To do this however, I have had
> to create a new project using Gradle and copy my Java sources to this new
> project because IntelliJ thumbs it's nose at Ant projects. So, now I am
> pondering the prospect of continuing with the Ant project in NetBeans and
> discarding the Kotlin sources, or making the transition to Gradle (and
> perhaps IntelliJ) permanent. The second option (minus the move to IntelliJ
> perhaps) is inevitable, but I do feel as though IntelliJ is making the
> decision on what is an appropriate build tool for me at a time when I do
> not think it necessary to entertain such a move.
> >
> > I'd like it better if NetBeans was able to intermix Kotlin and Java in a
> way similar to IntelliJ, but without making a judgement call on what build
> tool I choose to use.
> >
> >
> > On Sun, 10 Oct 2021 at 00:23, Eric Bresie  wrote:
> >>
> >> Unrelated but at some point, there was discussion of integrating Kotlin
> support (I believe donated by JetBrain developer)…did anything further
> happen with that?
> >>
> >> Or is Kotlin another candidate for “new LSP language implementation”?
> >>
> >> Eric
> >>
> >> On Fri, Oct 8, 2021 at 11:03 PM Owen Thomas 
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Okay... I make a provisional withdrawal and reserve the right to
> reassert.
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, 8 Oct 2021 at 18:59, Owen Thomas 
> wrote:
> 
>  Java and Kotlin interoperability is a fabrication. Stick with Java or
> stick with Kotlin. Don't try it; it will only lead one to rip one's face
> off.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Eric Bresie
> >> ebre...@gmail.com
>
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