Re: Netbeans Bug (With Bug Bounty)

2021-01-26 Thread August Nagro
Trying out a different editor now, so going to retract the bug
bounties unless someone already started on them.

Regards,

August

On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 10:37 PM August Nagro  wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I am new to Netbeans and am enjoying it so far. I have
> encountered 5 bugs. I've documented them here:
>
> https://github.com/AugustNagro/netbeans-bugs/tree/master/public_html
>
> I will pay $40 USD per bug. I know it's not much, but hope it's
> motivational for someone.
>
> Cheers,
>
> August

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Re: React Native Support for Cross Platform Mobile Apps Development

2021-01-25 Thread August Nagro
That's really cool Jaroslav. Do you have a github link to Bck2Brwsr?

I am also interested in Java->JS transpilation (I made that post on
the Graal forums).

Recently I've been using Google's J2CL transpiler [1], which is the
successor to GWT and wraps the optimizing Closure Compiler. The
library has some unfortunate problems however. It doesn't run on
Windows, tests don't work, it only runs on their Bazel build system,
docs are poor, huge pain interfacing with ES6 and CommonJS modules,
etc.

Thankfully, there is a community maven plugin [2] which resolves some
of these problems and even adds support for sourcemaps during (fast)
incremental compilation. I am contributing some things via PRs, for
example a 0-dep live-reloading dev server [3].

Here is an example I made with J2CL-m-p: https://august.nagro.us/passgen/

It's a PWA so you can 'install' it by hitting the plus in the right of
the addr bar and it works offline. I used web components by extending
HTMLElement, as you can see the fragments with inspector. It uses an
english dictionary for words. Pretty cool what the web is capable of
these days.

The HTML netbeans bugs I filed recently were encountered developing this sample.

However at the end of the day Google never meant J2CL to be a tool for
writing extensive frontend code. I think they probably use it just to
let JS devs consume the dtos/validations/algorithms written in Java.
And they do the same for the guys writing iOS apps with j2objc [3].

And to be fair, the Java language doesn't always map great to JS,
especially things like default function arguments.

Scala however, really does fit JS well, and Scala.js [4] is a great
software project. They have their own IR that maps to Closure
Compiler, just like J2CL. And the community has invested in some great
JS framework bindings. Interop & bundling with both ES6 and CommonJS
is a breeze. The only problem is that we both wish to write as much
Java as possible. So until Graal supports JS output (or we build
Graalium ;) ) I think I will start contributing to their effort to
implement a Java frontend [5]. Then I can write a Java backend, and
idiomatic Scala frontend with full reuse of DTOs, validations, etc.

Cheers,

August

[1]: https://github.com/google/j2cl
[2]: https://github.com/Vertispan/j2clmavenplugin/pulls
[3]: https://github.com/Vertispan/j2clmavenplugin/issues/62
[4]: https://github.com/google/j2objc
[5]: https://www.scala-js.org/doc/sjs-for-js/es6-to-scala-part1.html
[6]: 
https://github.com/arthanzel/scalajs-jfe/blob/master/Hanzel-project-report-sjs-jfe.pdf

On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 6:05 PM Jaroslav Tulach
 wrote:
>
> > Is there any hope of getting better react support and
>
> A month or two ago I had announced my project "React for Java" in this
> discussion forum. My post received no replies. Probably not that many active
> NetBeans IDE developers develop webapps. Anyway, if you find the topic of 
> using
> Java and web and React interesting, here is a link to the tutorial I have
> created:
>
> http://xelfi.cz/react4jdemo/ttt1.html
>
> In spite of the silence on this mailing listl, there seems to be a growing
> interest in running Java in modern browsers (e.g. without Java plugin) and I
> am dedicated to make the Apache NetBeans `@JavaScriptBody` annotation[1]
> central piece of such effort.
>
> Best regards,
> Jaroslav Tulach
>
> NetBeans Platform Architect
> Bck2Brwsr Java bytecode to JavaScript transpiler creator
> Apache HTML/Java API[1] inventor
> OracleLabs - the home of JVMs/compilers/transpilers - member
> Apache NetBeans - dedicated contributor
>
> [1] 
> https://bits.netbeans.org/html+java/1.7/net/java/html/js/package-summary.html
>
>
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Re: Bug reports with only exception log

2021-01-23 Thread August Nagro
Is this what caused the the issue descriptions I had written to disappear?

On Fri, Jan 22, 2021, 10:43 PM Tomáš Procházka  wrote:

> Unfortunately field Description is now hidden :(
>
> I reported the issue in INFRA-19430
>  ticket, just letting
> you know.
>
> Tom
>
> On 22. 01. 21 20:47, Tomáš Procházka wrote:
> > Structured template for issue description was applied to NetBeans JIRA.
> >
> > Thanks to all involved in this quest.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Tom
> >
> > On 17. 01. 21 12:53, Tomáš Procházka wrote:
> >> OK, change is prepared now and after our approval it will be applied
> >> to NetBeans project in JIRA.
> >>
> >> Tom
> >>
> >> On 03. 01. 21 2:47, John Neffenger wrote:
> >>> On 1/2/21 3:56 PM, Tomáš Procházka wrote:
>  Having some form of guidance for reporter would be useful.
> >>>
> >>> Please see:
> >>>
> >>> INFRA-19430 - Add an issue description template
> >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-19430
> >>>
> >>> I'm not sure what's still holding up the change, but it may help for
> >>> the infrastructure group to hear from someone besides Christian Lenz
> >>> and me.
> >>>
> >>> John
> >>>
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Re: Re: Netbeans Bug (With Bug Bounty)

2021-01-22 Thread August Nagro
Thanks Eric, I am running Fedora 33 with JDK 15. I put the environment
output from Netbeans in the bug reports, and also the github repo I shared
before I learned about the Jira.

All the bugs I can reproduce on multiple platforms, and with JDK 11.
Andreas also said he could reproduce.

I'm not sure why Zahid can't reproduce the bug she tried.

On Fri, Jan 22, 2021, 5:00 AM Eric Bresie  wrote:

>
> Assume you are referring to theses:
>
> [image: Bug] <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-5277>
> NETBEANS-5277 <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-5277>
>
> HTML Template Element Highlighting Bug
> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-5277>
> *Unassigned* August Nagro
> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ViewProfile.jspa?name=augustnagro> 
> [image:
> Major] OPEN *Unresolved* 21/Jan/21 21/Jan/21   Actions
> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/rest/api/1.0/issues/13353868/ActionsAndOperations?atl_token=A5KQ-2QAV-T4JA-FDED_7207ebc337dfd284de3fa208c5f028bcb66795ad_lin>
> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-5276>[image: Bug]
> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-5276> NETBEANS-5276
> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-5276>
>
> FlatLAF Options Bugs <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-5276>
> *Unassigned* August Nagro
> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ViewProfile.jspa?name=augustnagro> 
> [image:
> Major] OPEN *Unresolved* 21/Jan/21 22/Jan/21   Actions
> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/rest/api/1.0/issues/13353867/ActionsAndOperations?atl_token=A5KQ-2QAV-T4JA-FDED_7207ebc337dfd284de3fa208c5f028bcb66795ad_lin>
> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-5275>[image: Bug]
> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-5275> NETBEANS-5275
> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-5275>
>
> HTML Embedded style tag codecompletion crash
> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-5275>
> *Unassigned* August Nagro
> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ViewProfile.jspa?name=augustnagro> 
> [image:
> Major] OPEN *Unresolved* 21/Jan/21 21/Jan/21   Actions
> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/rest/api/1.0/issues/13353866/ActionsAndOperations?atl_token=A5KQ-2QAV-T4JA-FDED_7207ebc337dfd284de3fa208c5f028bcb66795ad_lin>
> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-5274>[image: Bug]
> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-5274> NETBEANS-5274
> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-5274>
>
> Custom Tag in HTML Editor Breaks Formatting
> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-5274>
> *Unassigned* August Nagro
> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ViewProfile.jspa?name=augustnagro> 
> [image:
> Major] OPEN *Unresolved* 21/Jan/21 21/Jan/21   Actions
> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/rest/api/1.0/issues/13353863/ActionsAndOperations?atl_token=A5KQ-2QAV-T4JA-FDED_7207ebc337dfd284de3fa208c5f028bcb66795ad_lin>
> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-5273>[image: Bug]
> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-5273> NETBEANS-5273
> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-5273>
>
> Crash when Changing LAF
> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-5273>
>
> It may be helpful to create a new email thread on specific issues.
>
> I think this is done already but make sure for each that necessary details
> are provided for the issue including setup (i.e. OS, version of Netbeans,
> run time and/or development JDK, plugins installed/enabled), a description
> of the problem, how to reproduce it, and if available snapshots and/or logs
> which may help identify possible source or location of the issue.
>
> A common issue found with new release is conflicting “user cached” data
> from previous release.  May want to clear this out and try it again and see
> if this solves the problem.
>
>
> Eric Bresie
> ebre...@gmail.com
>
> On January 22, 2021 at 4:16:21 AM CST, Zahid Rahman 
> wrote:
>
> I did try it on JDK 11 before
>
> your email and reproduced.
>
> I am please to know you tried the same approach using other JVMs and
> platform.
>
> This is how I download the jdk15 and updated netbeans.conf accordingly. I
> am not seeing the bug. I hope this helps.
>
>
> wget -qO - https://adoptopenjdk.jfrog.io/adoptopenjdk/api/gpg/key/public
> |
> sudo apt-key add -
> sudo add-apt-repository --yes
> https://adoptopenjdk.jfrog.io/adoptopenjdk/deb/
> sudo apt install adoptopenjdk-15-openj9 # Java 15 / OpenJ9 VM
>
>
> Z.
>
> https://www.backbutton.co.uk/
> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
> ♡۶♡۶ ♡۶
>
> On Fri, 22 Jan 2021, 09:12 August Nagro,  wrote:
>

Re: Netbeans Bug (With Bug Bounty)

2021-01-22 Thread August Nagro
Zahid, lets not get hurt feelings here. I did try it on JDK 11 before
your email and reproduced. I even reproduced on MacOS. If you would
have asked "can you reproduce on JDK 11", I would have said directly.

Your message implies that a solution to (one of) the bugs was lowering
the JDK version, but I am seeking to report a bug for my environment
which is JDK 15 (OpenJDK 15, not the OpenJ9 virtual machine). Please
don't misinterpret stubbornness for rudeness.

On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 12:53 AM Zahid Rahman  wrote:
>
> I think it would be helpful for any body following this thread to know that 
> if he changed jdk to earlier version then it would have identified whether 
> the bugs was due to jdk 15  or not.
> He didn't do that.
>
> The only information provide was jdk version and linux version.
>
>
> I found that the bugs were not due to jdk15 because I have tested netbeans 
> IDE against jdk 15. Not to be confused with development jdk.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Z.
>
> https://www.backbutton.co.uk/
> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
> ♡۶♡۶ ♡۶
>
> On Fri, 22 Jan 2021, 08:36 August Nagro,  wrote:
>>
>> Yes, I am using JDK 15 to run Netbeans as reported in the bugs. I appreciate 
>> the advice to try downgrading to Java, but my objective is to report some 
>> bugs, not find a workaround.
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 22, 2021, 12:23 AM Zahid Rahman  wrote:
>>>
>>> Som,
>>>
>>>  was taken aback by this statement
>>>
>>> > , I will keep using JDK 15 for development
>>>
>>>
>>> Z.
>>>
>>> https://www.backbutton.co.uk/
>>> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>>> ♡۶♡۶ ♡۶
>>>
>>> On Fri, 22 Jan 2021, 06:04 Som Lima,  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >, I will keep using JDK 15 for development
>>>>
>>>> For development I presume you are using Maven . To specify JDK for 
>>>> development you would do it this way (see below excerpt of pom.xml).
>>>>
>>>> The JDK being referred  to so far causing these alleged bugs was running 
>>>> NETBEANS IDE. The jdk running Netbeans is the one shown in the help  -> 
>>>> about window.
>>>>
>>>> It is not the same JDK  , especially if you setup development environment 
>>>> to build and run your code using Maven (pom.xml).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> maven-compiler-plugin
>>>> 3.7.0
>>>> 
>>>> 15
>>>> 15
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, 21 Jan 2021, 23:22 August Nagro,  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Zahid, I will keep using JDK 15 for development.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 12:52 AM Zahid Rahman  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Trying using an early version of JDK
>>>>> > rather than jdk 15.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Features like look and feel are commonly used features. They were 
>>>>> > probably  developed and tested on earlier version of  jdk.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Z.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > https://www.backbutton.co.uk/
>>>>> > ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>>>>> > ♡۶♡۶ ♡۶
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Thu, 21 Jan 2021, 06:37 August Nagro,  wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Hello,
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> I am new to Netbeans and am enjoying it so far. I have
>>>>> >> encountered 5 bugs. I've documented them here:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> https://github.com/AugustNagro/netbeans-bugs/tree/master/public_html
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> I will pay $40 USD per bug. I know it's not much, but hope it's
>>>>> >> motivational for someone.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Cheers,
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> August
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> -
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>>>>> >>
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>>>>> >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
>>>>> >>
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Re: Netbeans Bug (With Bug Bounty)

2021-01-22 Thread August Nagro
Yes, I am using JDK 15 to run Netbeans as reported in the bugs. I
appreciate the advice to try downgrading to Java, but my objective is to
report some bugs, not find a workaround.

On Fri, Jan 22, 2021, 12:23 AM Zahid Rahman  wrote:

> Som,
>
>  was taken aback by this statement
>
> > , I will keep using JDK 15 for development
>
>
> Z.
>
> https://www.backbutton.co.uk/
> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
> ♡۶♡۶ ♡۶
>
> On Fri, 22 Jan 2021, 06:04 Som Lima,  wrote:
>
>> >, I will keep using JDK 15 for development
>>
>> For development I presume you are using Maven . To specify JDK for
>> development you would do it this way (see below excerpt of pom.xml).
>>
>> The JDK being referred  to so far causing these alleged bugs was running
>> NETBEANS IDE. The jdk running Netbeans is the one shown in the help  ->
>> about window.
>>
>> It is not the same JDK  , especially if you setup development environment
>> to build and run your code using Maven (pom.xml).
>>
>>
>>  
>>
>> 
>> 
>> maven-compiler-plugin
>> 3.7.0
>> 
>> 15
>> 15
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 21 Jan 2021, 23:22 August Nagro,  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Zahid, I will keep using JDK 15 for development.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 12:52 AM Zahid Rahman 
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Trying using an early version of JDK
>>> > rather than jdk 15.
>>> >
>>> > Features like look and feel are commonly used features. They were
>>> probably  developed and tested on earlier version of  jdk.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Z.
>>> >
>>> > https://www.backbutton.co.uk/
>>> > ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>>> > ♡۶♡۶ ♡۶
>>> >
>>> > On Thu, 21 Jan 2021, 06:37 August Nagro, 
>>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Hello,
>>> >>
>>> >> I am new to Netbeans and am enjoying it so far. I have
>>> >> encountered 5 bugs. I've documented them here:
>>> >>
>>> >> https://github.com/AugustNagro/netbeans-bugs/tree/master/public_html
>>> >>
>>> >> I will pay $40 USD per bug. I know it's not much, but hope it's
>>> >> motivational for someone.
>>> >>
>>> >> Cheers,
>>> >>
>>> >> August
>>> >>
>>> >> -
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>>> >>
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>>> >>
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>>>


Re: Netbeans Bug (With Bug Bounty)

2021-01-21 Thread August Nagro
I think both use Gnome + GTK these days, right? (So the 4k scaling on
both sucks, lol)

I haven't tried Ubuntu recently but I'm not a fan of Snap.

On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 3:39 PM Zahid Rahman  wrote:
>
> I am a Ubuntu user not fedora for the same reason.
>
> Although fedora has the latest features it is normally , unstable and flakey.
>
> Unlike Ubuntu which is stable.
>
>
>
> Z.
>
> https://www.backbutton.co.uk/
> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
> ♡۶♡۶ ♡۶
>
> On Thu, 21 Jan 2021, 23:22 August Nagro,  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Zahid, I will keep using JDK 15 for development.
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 12:52 AM Zahid Rahman  wrote:
>> >
>> > Trying using an early version of JDK
>> > rather than jdk 15.
>> >
>> > Features like look and feel are commonly used features. They were probably 
>> >  developed and tested on earlier version of  jdk.
>> >
>> >
>> > Z.
>> >
>> > https://www.backbutton.co.uk/
>> > ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>> > ♡۶♡۶ ♡۶
>> >
>> > On Thu, 21 Jan 2021, 06:37 August Nagro,  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hello,
>> >>
>> >> I am new to Netbeans and am enjoying it so far. I have
>> >> encountered 5 bugs. I've documented them here:
>> >>
>> >> https://github.com/AugustNagro/netbeans-bugs/tree/master/public_html
>> >>
>> >> I will pay $40 USD per bug. I know it's not much, but hope it's
>> >> motivational for someone.
>> >>
>> >> Cheers,
>> >>
>> >> August
>> >>
>> >> -
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>> >>
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>> >>

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Re: Netbeans Bug (With Bug Bounty)

2021-01-21 Thread August Nagro
Hi Zahid, I will keep using JDK 15 for development.

On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 12:52 AM Zahid Rahman  wrote:
>
> Trying using an early version of JDK
> rather than jdk 15.
>
> Features like look and feel are commonly used features. They were probably  
> developed and tested on earlier version of  jdk.
>
>
> Z.
>
> https://www.backbutton.co.uk/
> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
> ♡۶♡۶ ♡۶
>
> On Thu, 21 Jan 2021, 06:37 August Nagro,  wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I am new to Netbeans and am enjoying it so far. I have
>> encountered 5 bugs. I've documented them here:
>>
>> https://github.com/AugustNagro/netbeans-bugs/tree/master/public_html
>>
>> I will pay $40 USD per bug. I know it's not much, but hope it's
>> motivational for someone.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> August
>>
>> -
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Netbeans Bug (With Bug Bounty)

2021-01-21 Thread August Nagro
Hello,

I am new to Netbeans and am enjoying it so far. So far I have
encountered 5 bugs. I've documented them here:

https://github.com/AugustNagro/netbeans-bugs/tree/master/public_html

I will pay $40 USD per bug. I know it's not much, but hope it's
motivational for someone.

Cheers,

August

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Netbeans Bug (With Bug Bounty)

2021-01-20 Thread August Nagro
Hello,

I am new to Netbeans and am enjoying it so far. I have
encountered 5 bugs. I've documented them here:

https://github.com/AugustNagro/netbeans-bugs/tree/master/public_html

I will pay $40 USD per bug. I know it's not much, but hope it's
motivational for someone.

Cheers,

August

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