I think that Netbeans should focus on speed of development and developer ergonomics.
Using Ant as a build tool is probably fine except the next question is why use Ant in 2020? I think Gradle or Maven would be easier for many new developers to contribute using just because of familiarity. Navigating the new Documentation website is hard to do because I just found out there is a blog link which in my opinion contains what I want most of the time: The latest netbeans version and where to download it: It could even be set up along tracks: 1. Dev track 2. Stable tracj 3. LTS track That is the first thing I want to see is what is the latest version ( dev, stable, LTS) of Netbeans and where do I get it. I find this information always hard to find: I sometimes end up on Jenkins pages. The update tool inside the IDE is probably the most interesting feature for rapid development but I have never figure out how it works. Is it just for plugins or can I update Netbeans itself using the Chek for Updates button? I think this is again a lack on focus on rapid development and deployment. Ron On Dec 11, 2020, at 1:24 PM, Eric Bresie <ebre...@gmail.com<mailto:ebre...@gmail.com>> wrote: Not fully aware of the current documentation organizational structure (if there is such a thing) so...Where might be the best placed to put this sort of information? Eric Bresie ebre...@gmail.com<mailto:ebre...@gmail.com> On Fri, Dec 4, 2020 at 5:46 AM Neil C Smith <neilcsm...@apache.org<mailto:neilcsm...@apache.org>> wrote: On Fri, 4 Dec 2020 at 11:06, Eric Bresie <ebre...@gmail.com<mailto:ebre...@gmail.com>> wrote: - Netbeans GUI to FX based UI Thanks Eric for that, and agree with a lot of it. But I can't see this one happening. Leaving aside technical aspects or desirability (and I still have a lot of doubts about FX!), there would be some licensing hurdles to overcome here at ASF. And we might want to drop some of the things that are currently (and optionally) FX webview based in the NetBeans UI for a start, even if we did get go ahead for other modules. In the shorter term, focus on aspects of the IDE working headless for VSCode, etc. may have benefits in opening up scope for exploring other UIs anyway? Best wishes, Neil --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org<mailto:dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org<mailto:dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org> For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing*lists__;Kw!!CjcC7IQ!dfgBdSX34umjIXV7ssnMeAPUhOVQwBk2OL0NOgxftAPEu6iB5NdpCx9IhH2GAw1b4m8JHA$ [cwiki[.]apache[.]org] This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review or distribution by anyone other than the person for whom it was originally intended is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please contact the sender and delete all copies. Opinions, conclusions or other information contained in this e-mail may not be that of the organization. If you feel you have received an email from UHN of a commercial nature and would like to be removed from the sender's mailing list please do one of the following: (1) Follow any unsubscribe process the sender has included in their email (2) Where no unsubscribe process has been included, reply to the sender and type "unsubscribe" in the subject line. If you require additional information please go to our UHN Newsletters and Mailing Lists page. Please note that we are unable to automatically unsubscribe individuals from all UHN mailing lists.