I think that Netbeans should focus on speed of development and developer 
ergonomics.

Using Ant as a build tool is probably fine except the next question is why use 
Ant in 2020?

I think Gradle or Maven would be easier for many new developers to contribute 
using just because of familiarity.

Navigating the new Documentation website is hard to do because I just found out 
there is a blog link which in my opinion contains what I want most of the time:

The latest netbeans version and where to download it:

It could even be set up along tracks:
1. Dev  track
2. Stable tracj
3. LTS track

That is the first thing I want to see is what is the latest version ( dev, 
stable, LTS) of Netbeans and where do I get it. I find this information always 
hard to find:

I sometimes end up on Jenkins pages.

The update tool inside the IDE is probably the most interesting feature for 
rapid development but I have never figure out how it works.

Is it just for plugins or can I update Netbeans itself using the Chek for 
Updates button?

I think this is again a lack on focus on rapid development and deployment.

Ron




On Dec 11, 2020, at 1:24 PM, Eric Bresie 
<ebre...@gmail.com<mailto:ebre...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Not fully aware of the current documentation organizational structure (if
there is such a thing) so...Where might be the best placed to put this sort
of information?
Eric Bresie
ebre...@gmail.com<mailto:ebre...@gmail.com>


On Fri, Dec 4, 2020 at 5:46 AM Neil C Smith 
<neilcsm...@apache.org<mailto:neilcsm...@apache.org>> wrote:

On Fri, 4 Dec 2020 at 11:06, Eric Bresie 
<ebre...@gmail.com<mailto:ebre...@gmail.com>> wrote:
- Netbeans GUI to FX based UI

Thanks Eric for that, and agree with a lot of it.  But I can't see
this one happening.  Leaving aside technical aspects or desirability
(and I still have a lot of doubts about FX!), there would be some
licensing hurdles to overcome here at ASF.  And we might want to drop
some of the things that are currently (and optionally) FX webview
based in the NetBeans UI for a start, even if we did get go ahead for
other modules.

In the shorter term, focus on aspects of the IDE working headless for
VSCode, etc. may have benefits in opening up scope for exploring other
UIs anyway?

Best wishes,

Neil

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