Re: React Native Support for Cross Platform Mobile Apps Development
Hi, You can use JavaFX and Gluon Substrate (which will manage the building of the native apps for you) for free. The nag screen is part of Gluon Mobile, which adds specific mobile UI controls, and that saves you time. But it is not needed. You can also develop your own UI controls, or use the existing JavaFX ones. I think this is a healthy model. As a business, Gluon invest lots of time in Open Source projects. I think it is only fair that our engineers, who are working very hard on this, get paid for this. Our top 2 goals are: 1. developers should be able to use all software for free 2. companies who want commercial support, should be able to get that. Honestly, I don't really understand your point. You seem to be disappointed that we try to pay our engineers for working on cool stuff, while we also clearly contribute to improve the ecosystem for everyone. It seems you don't like our approach and rather go with the business approach used by Facebook and Google, and that is fine. But Gluon is not Facebook or Google. - Johan On 2021/01/24 03:07:19, Brain Rebooting wrote: > Hi all, > > Recently I learned javafx and after learning it, I thought that I would use > gluon mobile framework to build cross platform mobile apps. But I just saw > their pricing plan for individual developers, which is $499. I just got > astonished. Though they have a free license, which is not for commercial > use. I don't see any reason to spend this amount of money using such a > average tech. Instead, there are numerous open source mobile app solutions > available there. Like, React Native, Flutter and so on. Though I searched > about Cordova, but its webview is like a joke and performance is too not > satisfying. In that sense, as an open source IDE, being Apache Netbeans, > can I/we get support for react native/flutter? Which are true market leader > and true performant framework for mobile. I don't see any option to use > netbeans for using at least react native IDE. > At this moment, I feel little bit depressed and frustrated. > > Is there any hope of getting better react support and at least react native > support in netbeans IDE? > > Even the text editors like, sublime/atom/vs-code too capable of, for using > react native. > > Samiul Alom Sium > Associate of science in computer science, > University of the people, USA > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Re: React Native Support for Cross Platform Mobile Apps Development
That's really cool Jaroslav. Do you have a github link to Bck2Brwsr? I am also interested in Java->JS transpilation (I made that post on the Graal forums). Recently I've been using Google's J2CL transpiler [1], which is the successor to GWT and wraps the optimizing Closure Compiler. The library has some unfortunate problems however. It doesn't run on Windows, tests don't work, it only runs on their Bazel build system, docs are poor, huge pain interfacing with ES6 and CommonJS modules, etc. Thankfully, there is a community maven plugin [2] which resolves some of these problems and even adds support for sourcemaps during (fast) incremental compilation. I am contributing some things via PRs, for example a 0-dep live-reloading dev server [3]. Here is an example I made with J2CL-m-p: https://august.nagro.us/passgen/ It's a PWA so you can 'install' it by hitting the plus in the right of the addr bar and it works offline. I used web components by extending HTMLElement, as you can see the fragments with inspector. It uses an english dictionary for words. Pretty cool what the web is capable of these days. The HTML netbeans bugs I filed recently were encountered developing this sample. However at the end of the day Google never meant J2CL to be a tool for writing extensive frontend code. I think they probably use it just to let JS devs consume the dtos/validations/algorithms written in Java. And they do the same for the guys writing iOS apps with j2objc [3]. And to be fair, the Java language doesn't always map great to JS, especially things like default function arguments. Scala however, really does fit JS well, and Scala.js [4] is a great software project. They have their own IR that maps to Closure Compiler, just like J2CL. And the community has invested in some great JS framework bindings. Interop & bundling with both ES6 and CommonJS is a breeze. The only problem is that we both wish to write as much Java as possible. So until Graal supports JS output (or we build Graalium ;) ) I think I will start contributing to their effort to implement a Java frontend [5]. Then I can write a Java backend, and idiomatic Scala frontend with full reuse of DTOs, validations, etc. Cheers, August [1]: https://github.com/google/j2cl [2]: https://github.com/Vertispan/j2clmavenplugin/pulls [3]: https://github.com/Vertispan/j2clmavenplugin/issues/62 [4]: https://github.com/google/j2objc [5]: https://www.scala-js.org/doc/sjs-for-js/es6-to-scala-part1.html [6]: https://github.com/arthanzel/scalajs-jfe/blob/master/Hanzel-project-report-sjs-jfe.pdf On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 6:05 PM Jaroslav Tulach wrote: > > > Is there any hope of getting better react support and > > A month or two ago I had announced my project "React for Java" in this > discussion forum. My post received no replies. Probably not that many active > NetBeans IDE developers develop webapps. Anyway, if you find the topic of > using > Java and web and React interesting, here is a link to the tutorial I have > created: > > http://xelfi.cz/react4jdemo/ttt1.html > > In spite of the silence on this mailing listl, there seems to be a growing > interest in running Java in modern browsers (e.g. without Java plugin) and I > am dedicated to make the Apache NetBeans `@JavaScriptBody` annotation[1] > central piece of such effort. > > Best regards, > Jaroslav Tulach > > NetBeans Platform Architect > Bck2Brwsr Java bytecode to JavaScript transpiler creator > Apache HTML/Java API[1] inventor > OracleLabs - the home of JVMs/compilers/transpilers - member > Apache NetBeans - dedicated contributor > > [1] > https://bits.netbeans.org/html+java/1.7/net/java/html/js/package-summary.html > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Re: React Native Support for Cross Platform Mobile Apps Development
Thanks for replying. On Tue, 26 Jan 2021, 8:05 am Jaroslav Tulach, wrote: > > Is there any hope of getting better react support and > > A month or two ago I had announced my project "React for Java" in this > discussion forum. My post received no replies. Probably not that many > active > NetBeans IDE developers develop webapps. Anyway, if you find the topic of > using > Java and web and React interesting, here is a link to the tutorial I have > created: > > http://xelfi.cz/react4jdemo/ttt1.html > > In spite of the silence on this mailing listl, there seems to be a growing > interest in running Java in modern browsers (e.g. without Java plugin) and > I > am dedicated to make the Apache NetBeans `@JavaScriptBody` annotation[1] > central piece of such effort. > > Best regards, > Jaroslav Tulach > > NetBeans Platform Architect > Bck2Brwsr Java bytecode to JavaScript transpiler creator > Apache HTML/Java API[1] inventor > OracleLabs - the home of JVMs/compilers/transpilers - member > Apache NetBeans - dedicated contributor > > [1] > https://bits.netbeans.org/html+java/1.7/net/java/html/js/package-summary.html > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > > >
Re: React Native Support for Cross Platform Mobile Apps Development
> Is there any hope of getting better react support and A month or two ago I had announced my project "React for Java" in this discussion forum. My post received no replies. Probably not that many active NetBeans IDE developers develop webapps. Anyway, if you find the topic of using Java and web and React interesting, here is a link to the tutorial I have created: http://xelfi.cz/react4jdemo/ttt1.html In spite of the silence on this mailing listl, there seems to be a growing interest in running Java in modern browsers (e.g. without Java plugin) and I am dedicated to make the Apache NetBeans `@JavaScriptBody` annotation[1] central piece of such effort. Best regards, Jaroslav Tulach NetBeans Platform Architect Bck2Brwsr Java bytecode to JavaScript transpiler creator Apache HTML/Java API[1] inventor OracleLabs - the home of JVMs/compilers/transpilers - member Apache NetBeans - dedicated contributor [1] https://bits.netbeans.org/html+java/1.7/net/java/html/js/package-summary.html - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
Re: React Native Support for Cross Platform Mobile Apps Development
Hello, I can send you some eBooks treating NetBeans in depth, and especially how to make a plugin, or customize it to your own solution/framework. Keep me in touch with you, if you encounter a solution. King regards Le dim. 24 janv. 2021 à 04:07, Brain Rebooting a écrit : > Hi all, > > Recently I learned javafx and after learning it, I thought that I would use > gluon mobile framework to build cross platform mobile apps. But I just saw > their pricing plan for individual developers, which is $499. I just got > astonished. Though they have a free license, which is not for commercial > use. I don't see any reason to spend this amount of money using such a > average tech. Instead, there are numerous open source mobile app solutions > available there. Like, React Native, Flutter and so on. Though I searched > about Cordova, but its webview is like a joke and performance is too not > satisfying. In that sense, as an open source IDE, being Apache Netbeans, > can I/we get support for react native/flutter? Which are true market leader > and true performant framework for mobile. I don't see any option to use > netbeans for using at least react native IDE. > At this moment, I feel little bit depressed and frustrated. > > Is there any hope of getting better react support and at least react native > support in netbeans IDE? > > Even the text editors like, sublime/atom/vs-code too capable of, for using > react native. > > Samiul Alom Sium > Associate of science in computer science, > University of the people, USA >
React Native Support for Cross Platform Mobile Apps Development
Hi all, Recently I learned javafx and after learning it, I thought that I would use gluon mobile framework to build cross platform mobile apps. But I just saw their pricing plan for individual developers, which is $499. I just got astonished. Though they have a free license, which is not for commercial use. I don't see any reason to spend this amount of money using such a average tech. Instead, there are numerous open source mobile app solutions available there. Like, React Native, Flutter and so on. Though I searched about Cordova, but its webview is like a joke and performance is too not satisfying. In that sense, as an open source IDE, being Apache Netbeans, can I/we get support for react native/flutter? Which are true market leader and true performant framework for mobile. I don't see any option to use netbeans for using at least react native IDE. At this moment, I feel little bit depressed and frustrated. Is there any hope of getting better react support and at least react native support in netbeans IDE? Even the text editors like, sublime/atom/vs-code too capable of, for using react native. Samiul Alom Sium Associate of science in computer science, University of the people, USA
