Re: Website changes for NB 11.1

2019-07-11 Thread Neil C Smith
On Thu, 11 Jul 2019 at 09:42, huang kai  wrote:
>
> +1 and I think there should be a group of links that link to the older build 
> of netbeans.

Thanks!  Yes, my intention is for the [Find out more] button under
Older Releases to link across to a sub-page to group all those links
and related information.  It should be on a sub-page though, because
the majority of visitors should not be downloading them.

I'll put together a website PR for this as and when the voting thread passes.

Best wishes,

Neil

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回复: Website changes for NB 11.1

2019-07-11 Thread huang kai
+1 and I think there should be a group of links that link to the older build of 
netbeans.


发件人: Josh Juneau 
发送时间: 2019年7月10日 19:08
收件人: Neil C Smith
抄送: dev
主题: Re: Website changes for NB 11.1

+1 I like your proposal for the website.

Josh Juneau
juneau...@gmail.com
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> On Jul 10, 2019, at 4:03 AM, Neil C Smith  wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm just merging and preparing for the vote thread on NB 11.1.  And
> while I'm waiting on things, thinking about website requirements as I
> know some changes are underway already.
>
> At present the Downloads link goes directly to
> http://netbeans.apache.org/download/nb110/nb110.html  I don't think we
> should directly link NB 11.1 in that way.  Now we have LTS and
> non-LTS, we need to consider how we present LTS and non-LTS to end
> users, and make sure links to both remain easily available.
>
> My thought is that we should make the main menu Download go (revert)
> to http://netbeans.apache.org/download/ and edit that page to include
> a short intro to release schedule and which version to choose.  And
> move everything that isn't latest LTS and non-LTS on to sub-pages?
>
> eg something like.
>
> # Download
>
> Apache NetBeans is released four times a year.  Our April release is a
> long-term support (LTS) release that benefits from our famous NetCAT
> community testing process, and will remain available and supported for
> a year.  Our other quarterly releases provide early access to new
> features.
>
> ## Apache NetBeans 11 feature update 1 (NB 11.1)
> Latest release of the IDE, released on July XX, 2019.
> [Features][Download]
>
> ## Apache NetBeans 11 LTS (NB 11.0)
> Latest LTS version of the IDE, released on April 4, 2019.
> [Features][Download]
>
> ## Older releases
> Older Apache NetBeans releases and pre-Apache NetBeans releases can
> still be downloaded, but are no longer supported.
> [Find out more] << move all text and links to sub-page
>
> ## Daily builds and building from source
> All Apache NetBeans source code is freely available to build yourself,
> or you can download (unsupported) daily development builds.
> [Find out more] << move all text and links to sub-page
>
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Neil
>
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Re: Website changes for NB 11.1

2019-07-10 Thread Josh Juneau
+1 I like your proposal for the website.

Josh Juneau
juneau...@gmail.com
http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com
https://www.apress.com/us/search?query=Juneau

> On Jul 10, 2019, at 4:03 AM, Neil C Smith  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I'm just merging and preparing for the vote thread on NB 11.1.  And
> while I'm waiting on things, thinking about website requirements as I
> know some changes are underway already.
> 
> At present the Downloads link goes directly to
> http://netbeans.apache.org/download/nb110/nb110.html  I don't think we
> should directly link NB 11.1 in that way.  Now we have LTS and
> non-LTS, we need to consider how we present LTS and non-LTS to end
> users, and make sure links to both remain easily available.
> 
> My thought is that we should make the main menu Download go (revert)
> to http://netbeans.apache.org/download/ and edit that page to include
> a short intro to release schedule and which version to choose.  And
> move everything that isn't latest LTS and non-LTS on to sub-pages?
> 
> eg something like.
> 
> # Download
> 
> Apache NetBeans is released four times a year.  Our April release is a
> long-term support (LTS) release that benefits from our famous NetCAT
> community testing process, and will remain available and supported for
> a year.  Our other quarterly releases provide early access to new
> features.
> 
> ## Apache NetBeans 11 feature update 1 (NB 11.1)
> Latest release of the IDE, released on July XX, 2019.
> [Features][Download]
> 
> ## Apache NetBeans 11 LTS (NB 11.0)
> Latest LTS version of the IDE, released on April 4, 2019.
> [Features][Download]
> 
> ## Older releases
> Older Apache NetBeans releases and pre-Apache NetBeans releases can
> still be downloaded, but are no longer supported.
> [Find out more] << move all text and links to sub-page
> 
> ## Daily builds and building from source
> All Apache NetBeans source code is freely available to build yourself,
> or you can download (unsupported) daily development builds.
> [Find out more] << move all text and links to sub-page
> 
> 
> Thoughts?
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Neil
> 
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AW: Website changes for NB 11.1

2019-07-10 Thread Christian Lenz
Yes but the link says: Apache NetBeans Download page. Which is wrong, because 
the download link on the menu links to the specific release. So confusing. 
Anyway. I suggest the same that neil suggested. Download should go to download.


Offtopic don’t read:
Earlier I wanted to change it by my own but this is not my environment as a 
frontend developer so I didn’t do it. Maybe later, when David give more info 
about the new design and we decided to use it.


Cheers

Chris



Von: Geertjan Wielenga
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 10. Juli 2019 12:15
An: dev
Betreff: Re: Website changes for NB 11.1

On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 11:14 AM Christian Lenz 
wrote:

> The download link should go to download, yes. Make no sense to go directly
> to a specific Version, with no link back to the overall download site.



Take another look, you'll see it, the link to earlier releases.

Gj




> All versions are well present on the download page, so the users will see.
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Chris
>
>
>
> Von: Neil C Smith
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 10. Juli 2019 11:03
> An: dev
> Betreff: Website changes for NB 11.1
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm just merging and preparing for the vote thread on NB 11.1.  And
> while I'm waiting on things, thinking about website requirements as I
> know some changes are underway already.
>
> At present the Downloads link goes directly to
> http://netbeans.apache.org/download/nb110/nb110.html  I don't think we
> should directly link NB 11.1 in that way.  Now we have LTS and
> non-LTS, we need to consider how we present LTS and non-LTS to end
> users, and make sure links to both remain easily available.
>
> My thought is that we should make the main menu Download go (revert)
> to http://netbeans.apache.org/download/ and edit that page to include
> a short intro to release schedule and which version to choose.  And
> move everything that isn't latest LTS and non-LTS on to sub-pages?
>
> eg something like.
>
> # Download
>
> Apache NetBeans is released four times a year.  Our April release is a
> long-term support (LTS) release that benefits from our famous NetCAT
> community testing process, and will remain available and supported for
> a year.  Our other quarterly releases provide early access to new
> features.
>
> ## Apache NetBeans 11 feature update 1 (NB 11.1)
> Latest release of the IDE, released on July XX, 2019.
> [Features][Download]
>
> ## Apache NetBeans 11 LTS (NB 11.0)
> Latest LTS version of the IDE, released on April 4, 2019.
> [Features][Download]
>
> ## Older releases
> Older Apache NetBeans releases and pre-Apache NetBeans releases can
> still be downloaded, but are no longer supported.
> [Find out more] << move all text and links to sub-page
>
> ## Daily builds and building from source
> All Apache NetBeans source code is freely available to build yourself,
> or you can download (unsupported) daily development builds.
> [Find out more] << move all text and links to sub-page
>
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Neil
>
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Re: Website changes for NB 11.1

2019-07-10 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 11:14 AM Christian Lenz 
wrote:

> The download link should go to download, yes. Make no sense to go directly
> to a specific Version, with no link back to the overall download site.



Take another look, you'll see it, the link to earlier releases.

Gj




> All versions are well present on the download page, so the users will see.
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Chris
>
>
>
> Von: Neil C Smith
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 10. Juli 2019 11:03
> An: dev
> Betreff: Website changes for NB 11.1
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm just merging and preparing for the vote thread on NB 11.1.  And
> while I'm waiting on things, thinking about website requirements as I
> know some changes are underway already.
>
> At present the Downloads link goes directly to
> http://netbeans.apache.org/download/nb110/nb110.html  I don't think we
> should directly link NB 11.1 in that way.  Now we have LTS and
> non-LTS, we need to consider how we present LTS and non-LTS to end
> users, and make sure links to both remain easily available.
>
> My thought is that we should make the main menu Download go (revert)
> to http://netbeans.apache.org/download/ and edit that page to include
> a short intro to release schedule and which version to choose.  And
> move everything that isn't latest LTS and non-LTS on to sub-pages?
>
> eg something like.
>
> # Download
>
> Apache NetBeans is released four times a year.  Our April release is a
> long-term support (LTS) release that benefits from our famous NetCAT
> community testing process, and will remain available and supported for
> a year.  Our other quarterly releases provide early access to new
> features.
>
> ## Apache NetBeans 11 feature update 1 (NB 11.1)
> Latest release of the IDE, released on July XX, 2019.
> [Features][Download]
>
> ## Apache NetBeans 11 LTS (NB 11.0)
> Latest LTS version of the IDE, released on April 4, 2019.
> [Features][Download]
>
> ## Older releases
> Older Apache NetBeans releases and pre-Apache NetBeans releases can
> still be downloaded, but are no longer supported.
> [Find out more] << move all text and links to sub-page
>
> ## Daily builds and building from source
> All Apache NetBeans source code is freely available to build yourself,
> or you can download (unsupported) daily development builds.
> [Find out more] << move all text and links to sub-page
>
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Neil
>
> -
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AW: Website changes for NB 11.1

2019-07-10 Thread Christian Lenz
The download link should go to download, yes. Make no sense to go directly to a 
specific Version, with no link back to the overall download site. All versions 
are well present on the download page, so the users will see.


Cheers

Chris



Von: Neil C Smith
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 10. Juli 2019 11:03
An: dev
Betreff: Website changes for NB 11.1

Hi,

I'm just merging and preparing for the vote thread on NB 11.1.  And
while I'm waiting on things, thinking about website requirements as I
know some changes are underway already.

At present the Downloads link goes directly to
http://netbeans.apache.org/download/nb110/nb110.html  I don't think we
should directly link NB 11.1 in that way.  Now we have LTS and
non-LTS, we need to consider how we present LTS and non-LTS to end
users, and make sure links to both remain easily available.

My thought is that we should make the main menu Download go (revert)
to http://netbeans.apache.org/download/ and edit that page to include
a short intro to release schedule and which version to choose.  And
move everything that isn't latest LTS and non-LTS on to sub-pages?

eg something like.

# Download

Apache NetBeans is released four times a year.  Our April release is a
long-term support (LTS) release that benefits from our famous NetCAT
community testing process, and will remain available and supported for
a year.  Our other quarterly releases provide early access to new
features.

## Apache NetBeans 11 feature update 1 (NB 11.1)
Latest release of the IDE, released on July XX, 2019.
[Features][Download]

## Apache NetBeans 11 LTS (NB 11.0)
Latest LTS version of the IDE, released on April 4, 2019.
[Features][Download]

## Older releases
Older Apache NetBeans releases and pre-Apache NetBeans releases can
still be downloaded, but are no longer supported.
[Find out more] << move all text and links to sub-page

## Daily builds and building from source
All Apache NetBeans source code is freely available to build yourself,
or you can download (unsupported) daily development builds.
[Find out more] << move all text and links to sub-page


Thoughts?

Best wishes,

Neil

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Re: Website changes for NB 11.1

2019-07-10 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Awesome. Do it, exactly right.

Gj

On Wed, 10 Jul 2019 at 11:03, Neil C Smith  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'm just merging and preparing for the vote thread on NB 11.1.  And
> while I'm waiting on things, thinking about website requirements as I
> know some changes are underway already.
>
> At present the Downloads link goes directly to
> http://netbeans.apache.org/download/nb110/nb110.html  I don't think we
> should directly link NB 11.1 in that way.  Now we have LTS and
> non-LTS, we need to consider how we present LTS and non-LTS to end
> users, and make sure links to both remain easily available.
>
> My thought is that we should make the main menu Download go (revert)
> to http://netbeans.apache.org/download/ and edit that page to include
> a short intro to release schedule and which version to choose.  And
> move everything that isn't latest LTS and non-LTS on to sub-pages?
>
> eg something like.
>
> # Download
>
> Apache NetBeans is released four times a year.  Our April release is a
> long-term support (LTS) release that benefits from our famous NetCAT
> community testing process, and will remain available and supported for
> a year.  Our other quarterly releases provide early access to new
> features.
>
> ## Apache NetBeans 11 feature update 1 (NB 11.1)
> Latest release of the IDE, released on July XX, 2019.
> [Features][Download]
>
> ## Apache NetBeans 11 LTS (NB 11.0)
> Latest LTS version of the IDE, released on April 4, 2019.
> [Features][Download]
>
> ## Older releases
> Older Apache NetBeans releases and pre-Apache NetBeans releases can
> still be downloaded, but are no longer supported.
> [Find out more] << move all text and links to sub-page
>
> ## Daily builds and building from source
> All Apache NetBeans source code is freely available to build yourself,
> or you can download (unsupported) daily development builds.
> [Find out more] << move all text and links to sub-page
>
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Neil
>
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Website changes for NB 11.1

2019-07-10 Thread Neil C Smith
Hi,

I'm just merging and preparing for the vote thread on NB 11.1.  And
while I'm waiting on things, thinking about website requirements as I
know some changes are underway already.

At present the Downloads link goes directly to
http://netbeans.apache.org/download/nb110/nb110.html  I don't think we
should directly link NB 11.1 in that way.  Now we have LTS and
non-LTS, we need to consider how we present LTS and non-LTS to end
users, and make sure links to both remain easily available.

My thought is that we should make the main menu Download go (revert)
to http://netbeans.apache.org/download/ and edit that page to include
a short intro to release schedule and which version to choose.  And
move everything that isn't latest LTS and non-LTS on to sub-pages?

eg something like.

# Download

Apache NetBeans is released four times a year.  Our April release is a
long-term support (LTS) release that benefits from our famous NetCAT
community testing process, and will remain available and supported for
a year.  Our other quarterly releases provide early access to new
features.

## Apache NetBeans 11 feature update 1 (NB 11.1)
Latest release of the IDE, released on July XX, 2019.
[Features][Download]

## Apache NetBeans 11 LTS (NB 11.0)
Latest LTS version of the IDE, released on April 4, 2019.
[Features][Download]

## Older releases
Older Apache NetBeans releases and pre-Apache NetBeans releases can
still be downloaded, but are no longer supported.
[Find out more] << move all text and links to sub-page

## Daily builds and building from source
All Apache NetBeans source code is freely available to build yourself,
or you can download (unsupported) daily development builds.
[Find out more] << move all text and links to sub-page


Thoughts?

Best wishes,

Neil

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