Podling Report Reminder - December 2016

[johndament]

Dear podling,

This email was sent by an automated system on behalf of the Apache
Incubator PMC. It is an initial reminder to give you plenty of time to
prepare your quarterly board report.

The board meeting is scheduled for Wed, 21 December 2016, 10:30 am PDT.
The report for your podling will form a part of the Incubator PMC
report. The Incubator PMC requires your report to be submitted 2 weeks
before the board meeting, to allow sufficient time for review and
submission (Wed, December 07).

Please submit your report with sufficient time to allow the Incubator
PMC, and subsequently board members to review and digest. Again, the
very latest you should submit your report is 2 weeks prior to the board
meeting.

Thanks,

The Apache Incubator PMC

Submitting your Report

--

Your report should contain the following:

*   Your project name
*   A brief description of your project, which assumes no knowledge of
the project or necessarily of its field
*   A list of the three most important issues to address in the move
towards graduation.
*   Any issues that the Incubator PMC or ASF Board might wish/need to be
aware of
*   How has the community developed since the last report
*   How has the project developed since the last report.

This should be appended to the Incubator Wiki page at:

https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/December2016

Note: This is manually populated. You may need to wait a little before
this page is created from a template.

Mentors
---

Mentors should review reports for their project(s) and sign them off on
the Incubator wiki page. Signing off reports shows that you are
following the project - projects that are not signed may raise alarms
for the Incubator PMC.

Incubator PMC

Re: Download binaries from Maven

[Niclas Hedhman]

Maven repository normally contains hashes for each file. They are intended
for download integrity check, but you could also keep the hash in your
distro. Additionally, many projects uploads detached PGP signatures of each
file, for you to truly verify its origin if you so desire.

Example; http://repo1.maven.org/maven2/org/qi4j/core/org.qi4j.core.api/2.1/

Cheers
Niclas

On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 2:13 AM, Emilian Bold  wrote:

> The previous system was a bit more solid if only because you also saved the
> hash in the dependency. So after download you could do an automated
> integrity check.
>
> The Maven groupId:artifactId:version does not guarantee you have the same
> file. Perhaps groupId:artifactId:version:hash should be used instead?
>
> Also, is there some (automatic) check during this transition that verifies
> the binary JAR from http://hg.netbeans.org/binaries and the replacing one
> from the Maven repository are actually identical?
>
> > the NetBeans build currently downloads bits from its own proprietary
> binary repository.
>
> I wouldn't call this "proprietary". It's basically a lib/ folder stored an
> a public HTTP server. Perhaps 'non-standard' would be the right word but
> it's a very simple, open and functional system.
>
>
>
> --emi
>
> On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 6:13 PM, Jaroslav Tulach <
> jaroslav.tul...@oracle.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi.
> > As we previously discussed, the NetBeans build currently downloads bits
> > from
> > its own proprietary binary repository. I assume it would be better to
> > download
> > them directly from Maven (Central) repository. I am willing to implement
> > such
> > system. I've created issue
> >
> > https://netbeans.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=269264
> >
> > to track progress of my work. Feel free to share comments and
> observations.
> >
> > -jt
> >
> >
>



-- 
Niclas Hedhman, Software Developer
http://zest.apache.org - New Energy for Java

Re: Podling Report Reminder - December 2016

[Emilian Bold]

Thank you. I've edited https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/December2016


--emi

On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 9:17 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz 
wrote:

> On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 5:40 PM, Emilian Bold 
> wrote:
> > ...I created yet another login: EmilianBold...
>
> You should now be able to edit https://wiki.apache.org/incubator
>
> -Bertrand
>

Re: Podling Report Reminder - December 2016

[Bertrand Delacretaz]

On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 5:40 PM, Emilian Bold  wrote:
> ...I created yet another login: EmilianBold...

You should now be able to edit https://wiki.apache.org/incubator

-Bertrand

Re: Wording, again, of the code donation

[Ivan Soleimanipour]

2.  The following NetBeans documentation at netbeans.org:
- the tutorials
- the feature pages
- articles and interviews


wiki?

wiki edit permission

[Emilian Bold]

Hello,

I could not edit https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/December2016 because my
user, EmilianBold is not allowed.

Could somebody grant me this permission?

Also, shouldn't this wiki work with the Apache ID? I now have 3 accounts:
the Apache ID, the cwiki user and the wiki user.


--emi

Re: Podling Report Reminder - December 2016

[Emilian Bold]

Actually I am not allowed to edit that page. The apache ID didn't work so I
created yet another login: EmilianBold


--emi

On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 6:33 PM, Emilian Bold  wrote:

> I'm not certain I can edit that wiki. I assumed somebody will copy-paste
> it there.
>
>
> --emi
>
> On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 6:27 PM, Ate Douma  wrote:
>
>> Hi Emilian,
>>
>> Thanks for drafting the first report!
>> Can you maybe enter this on the report wiki page [1]?
>> Note: the deadline for providing the report (by the podling) is *today*.
>>
>> Thanks, Ate
>>
>> [1] https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/December2016
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2016-12-05 22:40, Emilian Bold wrote:
>>
>>> 
>>> NetBeans
>>>
>>> NetBeans is a development environment, tooling platform and application
>>> framework.
>>>
>>> NetBeans has been incubating since 2016-10-01.
>>>
>>> Three most important issues to address in the move towards graduation:
>>>
>>>   1. Licensing, i.e., identifying and solving GPL-related code.
>>>   2. Coming up with a process of contributing code that makes sense to
>>> everyone.
>>>   3. Working on roadmaps, features, and plans together as a community.
>>>
>>> Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need to be
>>> aware of?
>>>
>>>None.
>>>
>>> How has the community developed since the last report?
>>>
>>>Discussed CCLA/SGA on the dev mailing list.
>>>
>>>Discussed existing mailing lists migration plan to Apache:
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing
>>> +lists+migration
>>>
>>> How has the project developed since the last report?
>>>
>>>CCLA and SGA still in the process of being approved and signed by
>>> Oracle, which will also apply the copyright headers as instructed on
>>> the dev mailing list.
>>>
>>>Started initial code cleanup analysis
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Overvie
>>> w%3A+NetBeans+Structure
>>>Oracle has already agreed to relicense the Graal.js parser under
>>> the Apache license.
>>>Resolved in LEGAL-279 the nb-javac dependency license.
>>>
>>>Almost finished new static website for Apache NetBeans.
>>>
>>>Experimented Mercurial to Git repository migration with a focus on
>>> repository size. Solution found, size not an issue anymore.
>>>
>>> Date of last release:
>>>
>>>   No releases yet.
>>>
>>> When were the last committers or PMC members elected?
>>>
>>>   No one has been elected so far.
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by:
>>>
>>>   [ ](netbeans) Ate Douma
>>>   [ ](netbeans) Bertrand Delacretaz
>>>   [ ](netbeans) Emmanuel Lecharny
>>>   [ ](netbeans) Daniel Gruno
>>>   [ ](netbeans) Jim Jagielski
>>>   [ ](netbeans) Mark Struberg
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> --emi
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 10:46 PM, Mark Struberg
>>>  wrote:
>>>
 Anyone up for the task?
 I can help/review. Would of course prefer if the new community members
 give it a try :)

 txs and LieGrue,
 strub

 Am 04.12.2016 um 15:18 schrieb johndam...@apache.org:
>
> Dear podling,
>
> This email was sent by an automated system on behalf of the Apache
> Incubator PMC. It is an initial reminder to give you plenty of time to
> prepare your quarterly board report.
>
> The board meeting is scheduled for Wed, 21 December 2016, 10:30 am PDT.
> The report for your podling will form a part of the Incubator PMC
> report. The Incubator PMC requires your report to be submitted 2 weeks
> before the board meeting, to allow sufficient time for review and
> submission (Wed, December 07).
>
> Please submit your report with sufficient time to allow the Incubator
> PMC, and subsequently board members to review and digest. Again, the
> very latest you should submit your report is 2 weeks prior to the board
> meeting.
>
> Thanks,
>
> The Apache Incubator PMC
>
> Submitting your Report
>
> --
>
> Your report should contain the following:
>
> *   Your project name
> *   A brief description of your project, which assumes no knowledge of
>the project or necessarily of its field
> *   A list of the three most important issues to address in the move
>towards graduation.
> *   Any issues that the Incubator PMC or ASF Board might wish/need to
> be
>aware of
> *   How has the community developed since the last report
> *   How has the project developed since the last report.
>
> This should be appended to the Incubator Wiki page at:
>
> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/December2016
>
> Note: This is manually populated. You may need to wait a little before
> this page is created from a template.
>
> Mentors
> ---
>
> Mentors should review reports for their project(s) and sign them off on
> the Incubator wiki page. 

Re: Podling Report Reminder - December 2016

[Ate Douma]

Hi Emilian,

Thanks for drafting the first report!
Can you maybe enter this on the report wiki page [1]?
Note: the deadline for providing the report (by the podling) is *today*.

Thanks, Ate

[1] https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/December2016


On 2016-12-05 22:40, Emilian Bold wrote:


NetBeans

NetBeans is a development environment, tooling platform and application
framework.

NetBeans has been incubating since 2016-10-01.

Three most important issues to address in the move towards graduation:

  1. Licensing, i.e., identifying and solving GPL-related code.
  2. Coming up with a process of contributing code that makes sense to everyone.
  3. Working on roadmaps, features, and plans together as a community.

Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need to be
aware of?

   None.

How has the community developed since the last report?

   Discussed CCLA/SGA on the dev mailing list.

   Discussed existing mailing lists migration plan to Apache:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists+migration

How has the project developed since the last report?

   CCLA and SGA still in the process of being approved and signed by
Oracle, which will also apply the copyright headers as instructed on
the dev mailing list.

   Started initial code cleanup analysis
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Overview%3A+NetBeans+Structure
   Oracle has already agreed to relicense the Graal.js parser under
the Apache license.
   Resolved in LEGAL-279 the nb-javac dependency license.

   Almost finished new static website for Apache NetBeans.

   Experimented Mercurial to Git repository migration with a focus on
repository size. Solution found, size not an issue anymore.

Date of last release:

  No releases yet.

When were the last committers or PMC members elected?

  No one has been elected so far.

Signed-off-by:

  [ ](netbeans) Ate Douma
  [ ](netbeans) Bertrand Delacretaz
  [ ](netbeans) Emmanuel Lecharny
  [ ](netbeans) Daniel Gruno
  [ ](netbeans) Jim Jagielski
  [ ](netbeans) Mark Struberg




--emi


On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 10:46 PM, Mark Struberg
 wrote:

Anyone up for the task?
I can help/review. Would of course prefer if the new community members give it 
a try :)

txs and LieGrue,
strub


Am 04.12.2016 um 15:18 schrieb johndam...@apache.org:

Dear podling,

This email was sent by an automated system on behalf of the Apache
Incubator PMC. It is an initial reminder to give you plenty of time to
prepare your quarterly board report.

The board meeting is scheduled for Wed, 21 December 2016, 10:30 am PDT.
The report for your podling will form a part of the Incubator PMC
report. The Incubator PMC requires your report to be submitted 2 weeks
before the board meeting, to allow sufficient time for review and
submission (Wed, December 07).

Please submit your report with sufficient time to allow the Incubator
PMC, and subsequently board members to review and digest. Again, the
very latest you should submit your report is 2 weeks prior to the board
meeting.

Thanks,

The Apache Incubator PMC

Submitting your Report

--

Your report should contain the following:

*   Your project name
*   A brief description of your project, which assumes no knowledge of
   the project or necessarily of its field
*   A list of the three most important issues to address in the move
   towards graduation.
*   Any issues that the Incubator PMC or ASF Board might wish/need to be
   aware of
*   How has the community developed since the last report
*   How has the project developed since the last report.

This should be appended to the Incubator Wiki page at:

https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/December2016

Note: This is manually populated. You may need to wait a little before
this page is created from a template.

Mentors
---

Mentors should review reports for their project(s) and sign them off on
the Incubator wiki page. Signing off reports shows that you are
following the project - projects that are not signed may raise alarms
for the Incubator PMC.

Incubator PMC

Wording, again, of the code donation

[Geertjan Wielenga]

Hi all,

The hold up in terms of the code donation continues to be a 'simple' case
of the wording, still.

We -- i.e., both on Oracle and Apache sides -- want to be very clear about
what exactly, of the large repo and various bits and pieces -- we're
donating. There are clearly parts we do not want to donate, etc, e.g., the
Java compiler fork, for example.

Below is the current wording, i.e., we're making sure we're not
accidentally donating Java documentation that may be at netbeans.org (but
as far as I'm aware no such documentation exists there, though we're just
making sure etc):

1.  "org.netbeans" and "org.openide" package hierarchy source code within
the "org.netbeans" and "org.openide" namespaces located at the "
hg.netbeans.org" repository, excluding hg.netbeans.org/main/nb-javac and
hg.netbeans.org/apitest

2.  The following NetBeans documentation at netbeans.org:
- the tutorials
- the feature pages
- articles and interviews


Of course, if something is accidentally donated it can be undonated though
we don't want to have things even in the history of an Apache Git repo that
shouldn't be there. I know all this may seem fussy and unnecessary, even,
however we are erring on the side of caution.

Can others look at 1. and 2. above and check if anything is missing from
there that we would want to have?

Thanks,

Geertjan