AW: Possible new splashscreen for NetBeans 9.0

[Christian Lenz]

Great Suggestion Dmitry, I like the lowercases on the second Image 😊
I don’t like the background but this is only my opinion, I think you wanted to 
bring the old/current logo into it if I guess it right?
I wanted to remove it from it because, when we will Change the logo, it doesn’t 
fit anymore. Only as a hint.

I will provide later more examples with a better Background pattern, which 
should Looks more modern than the current one from 7.0 until 8.2.


I will say BYOS – Bring Your Own Splashscreen too, that we can have a lot of 
alternatives and maybe a lot of stuff for next Releases 😊


Regards

Chris

Von: Dmitry Avtonomov
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 28. Juni 2017 19:14
An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Betreff: Re: Possible new splashscreen for NetBeans 9.0

Or even this:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5A3BtFY2Bv2NU1qLVJDbFhYZ00

On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 1:08 PM, Dmitry Avtonomov <
dmitriy.avtono...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Here's my version:
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5A3BtFY2Bv2WktLcXVKdVVqYWM
>
> Best,
> Dmitry
>
> On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 12:37 PM, John Yeary  wrote:
>
>> I personally like v1 kopie 2 since it seems to match up with the current
>> appearance. Nice work.
>>
>> 
>>
>> John Yeary
>> 
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>> "Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even
>> though checkered by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits who
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>> On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 12:30 PM, Dmitry Avtonomov <
>> dmitriy.avtono...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Definitely not the ones with red borders - they look like an error
>> message
>> > box.
>> >
>> > On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 9:28 AM, Christian Lenz > >
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > @Neil here is the answer from the designer:
>> > >
>> > > NetBeans in the same font-weight would be strange as already a
>> seperation
>> > > by the small and upper case takes place. This is only supported once
>> > again
>> > > by the bold Net.
>> > > It also highlights the digital approach and networking.
>> > >
>> > > The other thing, what came into my mind, after you ask was, why is
>> > already
>> > > a separation of NetBeans? Why not Netbeans?
>> > > Maybe Geertjan can smth about the Name.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > For the others who don’t like the style of the new splash Screens or
>> > > missing stuff like feathers etc. first I will provide some more,
>> > different
>> > > styles later, in a couple of days or so and I will provide a ticket to
>> > > collect all ideas to maybe have a vote later. Sure we can have a
>> feather,
>> > > sure we can have Apache, sure we can have signs in the Background. It
>> is
>> > up
>> > > to all of us to provide ideas. I started, I will go on, you can do the
>> > > same, you have the PSD or the Images, or tage the splash_nb.gif inside
>> > the
>> > > netbeans Folder to Change it.
>> > >
>> > > For my perspective, we can’t find a common splash Screen for
>> everyone, I
>> > > don’t like the current ones since 7.0 or so, because it Looks not
>> modern
>> > > and the eyes are eating too so I would like to provide a new, modern,
>> > > better looking style for the logo, the splash Screen and the page.
>> Some
>> > > likes it, some not but in the end, there is so much Branding outside
>> > there,
>> > > see visual Studio over the years and intelliJ to, only netbeans didn’t
>> > get
>> > > a rebranding of the page, the logo and the UI (except from the darcula
>> > > 3rd-party-plugin) and the splash Screen for years. It is time to
>> > have a
>> > > modern DIE now and this could happen under Apache. It is often a style
>> > > Thing, If I don’t like what I see, I will not use it, if there are
>> > > alternatives (except from others like Features, etc.).
>> > >
>> > > Everything needs a Change. A Change could be good or bad, but a
>> change is
>> > > better than no change.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Regards
>> > >
>> > > Chris
>> > >
>> > > Von: Neil C Smith
>> > > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 28. Juni 2017 11:50
>> > > An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
>> > > Betreff: Re: Possible new splashscreen for NetBeans 9.0
>> > >
>> > > Hi,
>> > >
>> > > On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 10:39 AM Christian Lenz <
>> christian.l...@gmx.net>
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Sure, I forgot it, sry.
>> > > > Here is the link:
>> > > > https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5EDo2BFcCwXRndEZzlYTTNWWGM
>> > > >
>> > >
>>

Re: AW: Possible new splashscreen for NetBeans 9.0

[Glenn Holmer]

On 06/28/2017 04:38 AM, Christian Lenz wrote:
> Sure, I forgot it, sry.
> Here is the link: 
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5EDo2BFcCwXRndEZzlYTTNWWGM
Hate 'em. The NetBeans splash images have always been artful and
inventive. Don't go with the "modern" "flat" look just because designers
are telling us it's fashionable. We aren't using 4.77MHz PCs any more,
it's OK to use a nice-looking image.

-- 
Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682)
"After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe."

Re: AW: Possible new splashscreen for NetBeans 9.0

[Chuck Davis]

+1

So-called "flat" or "material" design is so last century -- right out of
the 80's.

On Thu, Jun 29, 2017 at 10:41 AM, Glenn Holmer  wrote:

> On 06/28/2017 04:38 AM, Christian Lenz wrote:
> > Sure, I forgot it, sry.
> > Here is the link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=
> 0B5EDo2BFcCwXRndEZzlYTTNWWGM
> Hate 'em. The NetBeans splash images have always been artful and
> inventive. Don't go with the "modern" "flat" look just because designers
> are telling us it's fashionable. We aren't using 4.77MHz PCs any more,
> it's OK to use a nice-looking image.
>
> --
> Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682)
> "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe."
>

Re: AW: Possible new splashscreen for NetBeans 9.0

[Javier Ortiz]

Agreed, need to turn it around and completely head in another direction.

Re: AW: Possible new splashscreen for NetBeans 9.0

[Neil C Smith]

Hi,

On Thu, Jun 29, 2017 at 6:41 PM Glenn Holmer  wrote:

> it's OK to use a nice-looking image.
>

Yes!  Given Sven's comment about the Apache feather, which as far as I
recall we don't *have* to use, I was wondering about background images of
feathers, changing each release?  Something like this (public domain) might
work?

https://pixabay.com/en/feather-water-water-drop-abstract-406761/

Best wishes,

Neil

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Artist & Technologist
www.neilcsmith.net

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Re: AW: Possible new splashscreen for NetBeans 9.0

[Martin Dindoffer]

One way to go for this may be something like Adobe CS6 splashes (Photoshop,
Illustrator...) - http://techinch.com/blog/adobe-cs6-splash-screens

They combine the flat, boxed and high contrast approach as posted by
Christian with some creative embellishments. I would totally dig a large
one-color feather in the corner.

Regards,

Martin Dindoffer

2017-06-29 21:30 GMT+02:00 Martin Dindoffer :

> One way to go for this may be something like Adobe CS6 splashes
> (Photoshop, Illustrator...) - http://techinch.com/blog/adobe
> -cs6-splash-screens
>
> They combine the flat, boxed and high contrast approach as posted by
> Christian with some creative embellishments. I would totally dig a large
> one-color feather in the corner.
>
> Regards,
>
> Martin Dindoffer
>
>

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