Re: How to get the layer.xml from ModuleInfo?

[Geertjan Wielenga]

I still don’t understand why it is that you are trying to do this, if you
explain the context, that would help. You should never need to access the
layer.xml file itself. There are method calls in FileUtil for getting hold
of folders and files in the layer. Can you explain what it is you’re trying
to achieve? Parsing the layer directly is never going to be the correct
approach.

Gj


On Friday, October 5, 2018, Peter Nabbefeld  wrote:

>
> ModuleInfo does not seem to provide access to everything from the
> manifest, especially not the path to the layer file.
>
> P.
>
>
>
> Am 05.10.18 um 07:10 schrieb Geertjan Wielenga:
>
>> Unless you don't mean the module info file from Jigsaw, and you mean
>> something different instead? The layer.xml file is registered in the
>> module's manifest, if that helps.
>>
>> Gj
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 5, 2018 at 7:06 AM Geertjan Wielenga <
>> geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Whatever it is you're trying to do here, please stop. :-) The NetBeans
>>> module system and the Jigsaw module system are two totally different
>>> things
>>> and know nothing about each other. On the other hand, you're going to
>>> ignore this advice and go on ahead with whatever this is anyway, so bear
>>> in
>>> mind that the module info file is always found in exactly the same place,
>>> so you can simply provide a hard coded path to it, just like is done here
>>> for example, look for 'META-INF':
>>>
>>>
>>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/blob/master/
>>> java/java.source.base/src/org/netbeans/modules/java/source/
>>> parsing/CachingFileManager.java
>>>
>>> Gj
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 5, 2018 at 6:55 AM Peter Nabbefeld 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello,

 is there any way to read a module's layer.xml from ModuleInfo (or sth.
 else in global lookup)?

 Kind regards
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Re: How to get the layer.xml from ModuleInfo?

[Peter Nabbefeld]

ModuleInfo does not seem to provide access to everything from the 
manifest, especially not the path to the layer file.


P.



Am 05.10.18 um 07:10 schrieb Geertjan Wielenga:

Unless you don't mean the module info file from Jigsaw, and you mean
something different instead? The layer.xml file is registered in the
module's manifest, if that helps.

Gj

On Fri, Oct 5, 2018 at 7:06 AM Geertjan Wielenga <
geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote:


Whatever it is you're trying to do here, please stop. :-) The NetBeans
module system and the Jigsaw module system are two totally different things
and know nothing about each other. On the other hand, you're going to
ignore this advice and go on ahead with whatever this is anyway, so bear in
mind that the module info file is always found in exactly the same place,
so you can simply provide a hard coded path to it, just like is done here
for example, look for 'META-INF':


https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/blob/master/java/java.source.base/src/org/netbeans/modules/java/source/parsing/CachingFileManager.java

Gj



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wrote:


Hello,

is there any way to read a module's layer.xml from ModuleInfo (or sth.
else in global lookup)?

Kind regards
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Re: File reference in layer.xml: How to get the url?

[Peter Nabbefeld]

Thank You, but this method returns a FileObject (implementation is 
MultiFileObject, which isn't publicly accessible) within the XML 
filesystem, with the url attribute not being accessible, just as 
described below.


P.


Am 05.10.18 um 07:09 schrieb Geertjan Wielenga:

Maybe this helps:

http://bits.netbeans.org/dev/javadoc/org-openide-filesystems/org/openide/filesystems/FileUtil.html#getConfigFile-java.lang.String-

Gj

On Fri, Oct 5, 2018 at 6:53 AM Peter Nabbefeld 
wrote:


Hello,

when I put something like the following into my module's layer:
  

I can read the file, but its path is always
"parent/folders/my-module-base.xml", I cannot get the url value.

Kind regards
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Re: How to get the layer.xml from ModuleInfo?

[Peter Nabbefeld]

Good Morning Geertjan,

I asked for "from ModuleInfo (or sth. else in global lookup)?" - so it's 
about the ModuleInfo objects which are placed in the global lookup of 
NetBeans.  ;-)


I'll not (yet) try to mix NetBeans modules with Jigsaw, as NetBeans 
modules do not yet support that yet, AFAIK.


But, of course, I'll like to try ASAP.  ;-)


Kind regards

Peter


Am 05.10.18 um 07:06 schrieb Geertjan Wielenga:

Whatever it is you're trying to do here, please stop. :-) The NetBeans
module system and the Jigsaw module system are two totally different things
and know nothing about each other. On the other hand, you're going to
ignore this advice and go on ahead with whatever this is anyway, so bear in
mind that the module info file is always found in exactly the same place,
so you can simply provide a hard coded path to it, just like is done here
for example, look for 'META-INF':

https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/blob/master/java/java.source.base/src/org/netbeans/modules/java/source/parsing/CachingFileManager.java

Gj



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wrote:


Hello,

is there any way to read a module's layer.xml from ModuleInfo (or sth.
else in global lookup)?

Kind regards
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Re: How to get the layer.xml from ModuleInfo?

[Geertjan Wielenga]

Unless you don't mean the module info file from Jigsaw, and you mean
something different instead? The layer.xml file is registered in the
module's manifest, if that helps.

Gj

On Fri, Oct 5, 2018 at 7:06 AM Geertjan Wielenga <
geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote:

> Whatever it is you're trying to do here, please stop. :-) The NetBeans
> module system and the Jigsaw module system are two totally different things
> and know nothing about each other. On the other hand, you're going to
> ignore this advice and go on ahead with whatever this is anyway, so bear in
> mind that the module info file is always found in exactly the same place,
> so you can simply provide a hard coded path to it, just like is done here
> for example, look for 'META-INF':
>
>
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/blob/master/java/java.source.base/src/org/netbeans/modules/java/source/parsing/CachingFileManager.java
>
> Gj
>
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 5, 2018 at 6:55 AM Peter Nabbefeld 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> is there any way to read a module's layer.xml from ModuleInfo (or sth.
>> else in global lookup)?
>>
>> Kind regards
>> Peter
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Re: File reference in layer.xml: How to get the url?

[Geertjan Wielenga]

Maybe this helps:

http://bits.netbeans.org/dev/javadoc/org-openide-filesystems/org/openide/filesystems/FileUtil.html#getConfigFile-java.lang.String-

Gj

On Fri, Oct 5, 2018 at 6:53 AM Peter Nabbefeld 
wrote:

>
> Hello,
>
> when I put something like the following into my module's layer:
>  
>
> I can read the file, but its path is always
> "parent/folders/my-module-base.xml", I cannot get the url value.
>
> Kind regards
> Peter
>
>
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Re: How to get the layer.xml from ModuleInfo?

[Geertjan Wielenga]

Whatever it is you're trying to do here, please stop. :-) The NetBeans
module system and the Jigsaw module system are two totally different things
and know nothing about each other. On the other hand, you're going to
ignore this advice and go on ahead with whatever this is anyway, so bear in
mind that the module info file is always found in exactly the same place,
so you can simply provide a hard coded path to it, just like is done here
for example, look for 'META-INF':

https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/blob/master/java/java.source.base/src/org/netbeans/modules/java/source/parsing/CachingFileManager.java

Gj



On Fri, Oct 5, 2018 at 6:55 AM Peter Nabbefeld 
wrote:

>
> Hello,
>
> is there any way to read a module's layer.xml from ModuleInfo (or sth.
> else in global lookup)?
>
> Kind regards
> Peter
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How to get the layer.xml from ModuleInfo?

[Peter Nabbefeld]

Hello,

is there any way to read a module's layer.xml from ModuleInfo (or sth. 
else in global lookup)?


Kind regards
Peter

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File reference in layer.xml: How to get the url?

[Peter Nabbefeld]

Hello,

when I put something like the following into my module's layer:
    

I can read the file, but its path is always 
"parent/folders/my-module-base.xml", I cannot get the url value.


Kind regards
Peter




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Re: NetBeans (10) Splash Screen

[Josh Juneau]

Hi Laszlo,

I have executed the 10vc1 build in the following ways successfully without
seeing any flickering on OSX 10.13.6:

- NetBeans 10vc1 binary on Java 1.8.0_171-b11
- NetBeans 10vc1 binary on Java 11; OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM 11+28
- NetBeans 10vc1 built from sources on Java 1.8.0_171-b11

When the splash screen initially displays it is gray for a split second,
then the new updated splash screen shows with "Release 10".  Looks great...

Thanks

Josh Juneau
juneau...@gmail.com
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https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866



On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 6:16 PM Laszlo Kishalmi 
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Do we need the *release version* branded Splash screens?
>
> Right now we are having those. These images are using a Java splash
> screen support displaying an image before anything happen in the VM, the
> application later can update this screen.
>
> Right now we have the version 9 "branded" image displayed, then it gets
> updated with version 10 causing a bit flickering.
>
> Though I do not think that the static splash image is still required.
> (https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-67)
>
> If we just leave the version out from the initial splash image than the
> later update would be just addition to that, so the "flickering" could
> be avoided.
>
> We need to replace the splash screens for NetBeans 10 anyway, but if we
> would replace them this way we could merge back it to master then the
> next release does not need to replace the branding.
>
> Opinions?
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NetBeans (10) Splash Screen

[Laszlo Kishalmi]

Hi all,

Do we need the *release version* branded Splash screens?

Right now we are having those. These images are using a Java splash 
screen support displaying an image before anything happen in the VM, the 
application later can update this screen.


Right now we have the version 9 "branded" image displayed, then it gets 
updated with version 10 causing a bit flickering.


Though I do not think that the static splash image is still required. 
(https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-67)


If we just leave the version out from the initial splash image than the 
later update would be just addition to that, so the "flickering" could 
be avoided.


We need to replace the splash screens for NetBeans 10 anyway, but if we 
would replace them this way we could merge back it to master then the 
next release does not need to replace the branding.


Opinions?


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[GROOVY] Activation of unit tests on Travis / Jenkins

[Sven Reimers]

HI all,

with PR https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/pull/948

all unit tests in groovy.editor should pass.

Is there already a best practice  way to enable such tests on Travis /
Jenkins?

Would really like to have them running as part of the normal workflow.

Thanks

-Sven

10 VC1

[Mike Billman]

Just a couple of things

  *   It imports my 8.2 settings (think I saw a JIRA on this already)
  *   How do I uninstall a single added plugin (Under installed the show all as 
one)
  *   Tried to install Experimental Java Hints, but said I needed java hints, 
which I could not find

Other than that, for what I use it for (work), seems like it's moving forward.  
I will add that we still use JDK 8 at work, but are looking into implications 
of moving to JDK 11.

Mike Billman
Senior Software Engineer
CPTE

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Re: NetBeans javadoc at Apache (Re: Options, options (was Re: NetBeans javadoc at Apache))

[Neil C Smith]

On Thu, 4 Oct 2018 at 20:32, Geertjan Wielenga
 wrote:
>
> If we want mentors to do something we need to start a new thread with
> Mentors in the subject line.

I added it to the subject line, but it seems that might not be
registering as a new thread.  OK, will take 2!

Thanks,

Neil

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[mentors] New git repository for Javadoc

[Neil C Smith]

Hi,

Please could a mentor create a new git repository at incubator-netbeans-docs.

This is for hosting the Javadocs using gitpubsub, initially on
bits.netbeans.org with proxy back to Oracle for pre-Apache links
(404s).

Thanks and best wishes,

Neil

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Re: NetBeans javadoc at Apache (Re: Options, options (was Re: NetBeans javadoc at Apache))

[Geertjan Wielenga]

If we want mentors to do something we need to start a new thread with
Mentors in the subject line.

 Great we’re making progress on the javadoc!

Gj


On Thursday, October 4, 2018, Neil C Smith  wrote:

> On Thu, 4 Oct 2018 at 19:29, Neil C Smith  wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, 4 Oct 2018 at 19:19, Antonio  wrote:
> > >
> > > Yep. infra.chat is awesome. You can have things solved within the
> minute!
> > >
> >
> > Hi, yes, just about to.  But I was confused because according to the
> > wiki edits, infra told you to use self-serve?!
> >
>
> OK, this is something we need a mentor to action for now.  Unlike the
> wiki says we can't use self-serve to create repositories.
>
> So, would it be possible to have a new repository at
> incubator-netbeans-docs?  This is for the purpose of gitpubsub of
> Javadoc, on bits.netbeans.org at least initially.
>
> Thanks and best wishes,
>
> Neil
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[Mentors] Re: NetBeans javadoc at Apache (Re: Options, options (was Re: NetBeans javadoc at Apache))

[Neil C Smith]

On Thu, 4 Oct 2018 at 19:29, Neil C Smith  wrote:
>
> On Thu, 4 Oct 2018 at 19:19, Antonio  wrote:
> >
> > Yep. infra.chat is awesome. You can have things solved within the minute!
> >
>
> Hi, yes, just about to.  But I was confused because according to the
> wiki edits, infra told you to use self-serve?!
>

OK, this is something we need a mentor to action for now.  Unlike the
wiki says we can't use self-serve to create repositories.

So, would it be possible to have a new repository at
incubator-netbeans-docs?  This is for the purpose of gitpubsub of
Javadoc, on bits.netbeans.org at least initially.

Thanks and best wishes,

Neil

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AW: Some info for NetBeans 10 VC 1

[Christian Lenz]

Hey Eirik,

thx for pointing that out. Funny, this time I thought it is smth with my eyes 
😃. Will try it with the compatibility again. Thx.


Cheers

Chris



Von: Eirik Bakke
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 4. Oktober 2018 19:47
An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Betreff: RE: Some info for NetBeans 10 VC 1

Also, Christian: For testing purposes, please make sure you are running 
NetBeans with the "Compatibility"-->"Change high DPI settings"-->"Override high 
DPI scaling behavior"-->"Application" trick we discussed before if you have 
HiDPI screens in your setup. (Again, this will be the default setting in the 
future.) I see from your screenshot that your menu bar is blurry (but not the 
title bar), suggesting an incorrect HiDPI setting.

-Original Message-
From: Eirik Bakke 
Sent: Thursday, October 4, 2018 1:41 PM
To: 'dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org' 
Subject: RE: Some info for NetBeans 10 VC 1

Regarding 1: This is likely a JDK bug. Could you run the application at 
https://gist.github.com/eirikbakke/b85b67dae62993e3cbee51e4c9e6c214 and provide 
the output?

-- Eirik

-Original Message-
From: Christian Lenz  
Sent: Thursday, October 4, 2018 12:01 PM
To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Subject: Some info for NetBeans 10 VC 1

Hey,

as I’m testing the PHP specs I have some Questions/Infos in General, not for 
PHP:

1. See this screenshot (https://imgur.com/a/uKgS0Y9) of a Multi monitor, I have 
a Laptop and 2 monitors. When I move NetBeans 10 to the Right monitor and open 
File, it will appears on the other monitor. I mean it is not a blocker or 
critical but not nice. We should fix it but hopefully not for NetBeans 10.1 or 
11, Maybe a patch would be nice that can handle this. Will create a ticket for 
that, if there isn’t one yet.

2. The Little Checkbox inside the Plugin Portal went back to NetBeans 10.0, but 
it was removed in 9.0 what is the current state now? I was fine to not have 
this Checkbox anymore, because it is not Handy. I mean for the next realease 
(of Course, I will create a ticket) the view could be a tree to see the Groups 
(Show Details off) and if you expand it or click on Show Details you see 
everything. But this is a complete other Point. Only wanted to know whether the 
Checkbox is back again or it was added again by mistake.

3. I thought that Groovy and PHP are the only packages which went into NB 10.0. 
Now I can see that HTML5/JS which is webcommon, is also included into the 
release, I mean which is quite nice for me but we don’t have a tribe or test or 
smth else. Why was it included then? Is it needed for PHP? If not we should 
make a tribe for the release because it is now part of the core. Doesn’t matter 
new Features where added or Bugs where fixed.

These are my Little Things for the Moment. Thx.


Cheers

Chris 

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Re: NetBeans javadoc at Apache (Re: Options, options (was Re: NetBeans javadoc at Apache))

[Neil C Smith]

On Thu, 4 Oct 2018 at 19:19, Antonio  wrote:
>
> Yep. infra.chat is awesome. You can have things solved within the minute!
>

Hi, yes, just about to.  But I was confused because according to the
wiki edits, infra told you to use self-serve?!

Best wishes,

Neil

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Re: NetBeans javadoc at Apache (Re: Options, options (was Re: NetBeans javadoc at Apache))

[Laszlo Kishalmi]

Yes indeed! I'm big fan of it as well.


On 10/04/2018 11:19 AM, Antonio wrote:

Yep. infra.chat is awesome. You can have things solved within the minute!

On 04/10/18 15:16, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:

Any questions re infrastructure, and permissions, just pop over to
infra.chat and check there.

Gj

On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 3:05 PM Neil C Smith  
wrote:



On Wed, 3 Oct 2018 at 12:44, Antonio  wrote:
I think it's worth exploring this path. Let me know if I can be of 
help

on this.


OK, looked at setting up the repo for this via self-serve as you
mentioned from an earlier infra chat, but looks like we don't have
permission to do that ourselves?!

Best wishes,

Neil

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Re: NetBeans javadoc at Apache (Re: Options, options (was Re: NetBeans javadoc at Apache))

[Antonio]

Yep. infra.chat is awesome. You can have things solved within the minute!

On 04/10/18 15:16, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:

Any questions re infrastructure, and permissions, just pop over to
infra.chat and check there.

Gj

On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 3:05 PM Neil C Smith  wrote:


On Wed, 3 Oct 2018 at 12:44, Antonio  wrote:

I think it's worth exploring this path. Let me know if I can be of help
on this.


OK, looked at setting up the repo for this via self-serve as you
mentioned from an earlier infra chat, but looks like we don't have
permission to do that ourselves?!

Best wishes,

Neil

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RE: Some info for NetBeans 10 VC 1

[Eirik Bakke]

Regarding 1: This is likely a JDK bug. Could you run the application at 
https://gist.github.com/eirikbakke/b85b67dae62993e3cbee51e4c9e6c214 and provide 
the output?

-- Eirik

-Original Message-
From: Christian Lenz  
Sent: Thursday, October 4, 2018 12:01 PM
To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Subject: Some info for NetBeans 10 VC 1

Hey,

as I’m testing the PHP specs I have some Questions/Infos in General, not for 
PHP:

1. See this screenshot (https://imgur.com/a/uKgS0Y9) of a Multi monitor, I have 
a Laptop and 2 monitors. When I move NetBeans 10 to the Right monitor and open 
File, it will appears on the other monitor. I mean it is not a blocker or 
critical but not nice. We should fix it but hopefully not for NetBeans 10.1 or 
11, Maybe a patch would be nice that can handle this. Will create a ticket for 
that, if there isn’t one yet.

2. The Little Checkbox inside the Plugin Portal went back to NetBeans 10.0, but 
it was removed in 9.0 what is the current state now? I was fine to not have 
this Checkbox anymore, because it is not Handy. I mean for the next realease 
(of Course, I will create a ticket) the view could be a tree to see the Groups 
(Show Details off) and if you expand it or click on Show Details you see 
everything. But this is a complete other Point. Only wanted to know whether the 
Checkbox is back again or it was added again by mistake.

3. I thought that Groovy and PHP are the only packages which went into NB 10.0. 
Now I can see that HTML5/JS which is webcommon, is also included into the 
release, I mean which is quite nice for me but we don’t have a tribe or test or 
smth else. Why was it included then? Is it needed for PHP? If not we should 
make a tribe for the release because it is now part of the core. Doesn’t matter 
new Features where added or Bugs where fixed.

These are my Little Things for the Moment. Thx.


Cheers

Chris 

RE: Blurry font with NetBeans 9.0

[Eirik Bakke]

The other Windows HiDPI bug I mentioned before, where checkboxes, radio buttons 
and so on become too small or too large when moved from one monitor to another, 
has now been assigned a JDK JIRA ticket:

https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8211715
(And see https://people.csail.mit.edu/ebakke/WindowsSwingMultiMonitorTest.png 
for an illustration.)

This one creates some quite annoying visual artifacts in the NetBeans Projects 
pane, but we probably have to wait for the underlying problem to be fixed in 
the JDK.

-- Eirik

-Original Message-
From: Eirik Bakke 
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 9:52 AM
To: 'dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org' 
Subject: RE: Blurry font with NetBeans 9.0

There's another remaining problem where checkboxes, radio buttons and so on 
become too small or too large on one of the monitors. That one is a JDK bug, 
which I have reported on https://bugreport.java.com/bugreport (though it has 
not been assigned a JDK JIRA ticket yet).

-- Eirik

-Original Message-
From: Christian Lenz 
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 9:44 AM
To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Subject: AW: Blurry font with NetBeans 9.0

Ok yes, now everything is fine, except from the titlebar 😃 It is huge now on 
non HiDPI Monitors, but you mentioned it before. The rest is fine, no blurry, 
no Problems on HiDPI or non HiDPI Monitors. But the titlebar is weird.

Thx.



Von: Christian Lenz
Gesendet: Dienstag, 18. September 2018 15:38
An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Betreff: AW: Blurry font with NetBeans 9.0

Ok, will Change it. I thought I Need dpiAware=false and uiScale=2 AND the 
Override high DPI scaling behaviour -> Application.
Thx. Will try this.



Von: Eirik Bakke
Gesendet: Dienstag, 18. September 2018 15:31
An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Betreff: RE: Blurry font with NetBeans 9.0

Hmm, I haven't seen that problem before. Except for the title bar--I know it 
becomes huge or tiny at times (that particular problem will also be solved with 
NETBEANS-1227).

Might you still be running with "dpiAware=false" and "uiScale=2"? Those two 
should not be needed once you apply the "Override high DPI scaling 
behavior"-->"Application" trick--in fact they would likely cause problems.

-- Eirik

-Original Message-
From: Christian Lenz 
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 9:13 AM
To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Subject: AW: Blurry font with NetBeans 9.0

Yes, so again I don’t have Problems with HiDPI anymore. No Blurry font, no to 
small or to big, but when I move my window to a non HiDPI monitor and with an 
other Resolution, it will gets really big.



Von: Eirik Bakke
Gesendet: Dienstag, 18. September 2018 15:09
An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Betreff: RE: Blurry font with NetBeans 9.0

Did you try the "Compatibility"-->"Change high DPI settings"-->"Override high 
DPI scaling behavior"-->"Application" trick?

(Once https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-1227 is resolved, this 
workaround will become unnecessary.)

-- Eirik

-Original Message-
From: Christian Lenz 
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 8:39 AM
To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Subject: AW: Blurry font with NetBeans 9.0

Is there anything else, what I can do here to Prevent making NetBeans bigger on 
a non HiDPI monitor, when I move the window?


Cheers

Chris



Von: Christian Lenz
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 13. September 2018 15:56
An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Betreff: AW: Blurry font with NetBeans 9.0

Update:

dpiAware=false
uiScale=2

Settings via compatibilty for the OS, the application should handle it and 
override the dpi scale if it is to high.

Now, everything Looks fine, on the Surface book with the hidpi Display, but 
when I move my NetBeans window to a different monitor, w/o having retina or 
hidpi, everything is too big.

Someone mentioned it here before so how can I fix this?

So Long Story short, everything is fine for hidpi Display but not for normal 
Displays. I use both in parallel.


Cheers

Chris



Von: Christian Lenz
Gesendet: Montag, 10. September 2018 11:53
An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Betreff: AW: Blurry font with NetBeans 9.0

Hey all,

so it seems to work now. I use JDK 10.0.2 and the uiScale=2 and dpiAware=false 
and the scaling compatibilty Option of Windows.
Thx to all. Will check whether it will work with the darcula laf or not.


Cheers

Chris

Von: Christian Lenz
Gesendet: Montag, 10. September 2018 11:20
An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Betreff: AW: Blurry font with NetBeans 9.0

Hey Tim,

which zoom do you mean? If you mean the Windows scaling (zoom) this is not 
possible, as I said. Because everything is to small, not only NetBeans. I 
didn’t need to Change anything in IntelliJ and there it works well and out of 
the box, I don’t know why I have to do such stuff for NetBeans.

When I add those flags for dpiaware and uiScale, Nothing work anymore. NetBeans 
started and it disappears but runs in Background. Removed all Folders for 
Ne

RE: Some info for NetBeans 10 VC 1

[Eirik Bakke]

Also, Christian: For testing purposes, please make sure you are running 
NetBeans with the "Compatibility"-->"Change high DPI settings"-->"Override high 
DPI scaling behavior"-->"Application" trick we discussed before if you have 
HiDPI screens in your setup. (Again, this will be the default setting in the 
future.) I see from your screenshot that your menu bar is blurry (but not the 
title bar), suggesting an incorrect HiDPI setting.

-Original Message-
From: Eirik Bakke 
Sent: Thursday, October 4, 2018 1:41 PM
To: 'dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org' 
Subject: RE: Some info for NetBeans 10 VC 1

Regarding 1: This is likely a JDK bug. Could you run the application at 
https://gist.github.com/eirikbakke/b85b67dae62993e3cbee51e4c9e6c214 and provide 
the output?

-- Eirik

-Original Message-
From: Christian Lenz  
Sent: Thursday, October 4, 2018 12:01 PM
To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Subject: Some info for NetBeans 10 VC 1

Hey,

as I’m testing the PHP specs I have some Questions/Infos in General, not for 
PHP:

1. See this screenshot (https://imgur.com/a/uKgS0Y9) of a Multi monitor, I have 
a Laptop and 2 monitors. When I move NetBeans 10 to the Right monitor and open 
File, it will appears on the other monitor. I mean it is not a blocker or 
critical but not nice. We should fix it but hopefully not for NetBeans 10.1 or 
11, Maybe a patch would be nice that can handle this. Will create a ticket for 
that, if there isn’t one yet.

2. The Little Checkbox inside the Plugin Portal went back to NetBeans 10.0, but 
it was removed in 9.0 what is the current state now? I was fine to not have 
this Checkbox anymore, because it is not Handy. I mean for the next realease 
(of Course, I will create a ticket) the view could be a tree to see the Groups 
(Show Details off) and if you expand it or click on Show Details you see 
everything. But this is a complete other Point. Only wanted to know whether the 
Checkbox is back again or it was added again by mistake.

3. I thought that Groovy and PHP are the only packages which went into NB 10.0. 
Now I can see that HTML5/JS which is webcommon, is also included into the 
release, I mean which is quite nice for me but we don’t have a tribe or test or 
smth else. Why was it included then? Is it needed for PHP? If not we should 
make a tribe for the release because it is now part of the core. Doesn’t matter 
new Features where added or Bugs where fixed.

These are my Little Things for the Moment. Thx.


Cheers

Chris 

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Java 11 Linux Rendering Issue

[Laszlo Kishalmi]

There is a nasty rendering issue on Linux introduced with Java 11:  
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-1344


Shall we consider it critical? Shall we revert to GTK 2.2 rendering in 
NetBeans 10?




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AW: Some info for NetBeans 10 VC 1

[Christian Lenz]

Ok, thx for the Feedback. Only wondering.


Cheers

Chris



Von: Geertjan Wielenga
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 4. Oktober 2018 18:03
An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Betreff: Re: Some info for NetBeans 10 VC 1

Yes, php depends on webcommon.

Release drivers are JDK 11 and PHP. That’s the focus of NetCAT, the other
three clusters are nice to have, but shouldn’t be a primary focus.

Gj

On Thursday, October 4, 2018, Christian Lenz  wrote:

> Hey,
>
> as I’m testing the PHP specs I have some Questions/Infos in General, not
> for PHP:
>
> 1. See this screenshot (https://imgur.com/a/uKgS0Y9) of a Multi monitor,
> I have a Laptop and 2 monitors. When I move NetBeans 10 to the Right
> monitor and open File, it will appears on the other monitor. I mean it is
> not a blocker or critical but not nice. We should fix it but hopefully not
> for NetBeans 10.1 or 11, Maybe a patch would be nice that can handle this.
> Will create a ticket for that, if there isn’t one yet.
>
> 2. The Little Checkbox inside the Plugin Portal went back to NetBeans
> 10.0, but it was removed in 9.0 what is the current state now? I was fine
> to not have this Checkbox anymore, because it is not Handy. I mean for the
> next realease (of Course, I will create a ticket) the view could be a tree
> to see the Groups (Show Details off) and if you expand it or click on Show
> Details you see everything. But this is a complete other Point. Only wanted
> to know whether the Checkbox is back again or it was added again by mistake.
>
> 3. I thought that Groovy and PHP are the only packages which went into NB
> 10.0. Now I can see that HTML5/JS which is webcommon, is also included into
> the release, I mean which is quite nice for me but we don’t have a tribe or
> test or smth else. Why was it included then? Is it needed for PHP? If not
> we should make a tribe for the release because it is now part of the core.
> Doesn’t matter new Features where added or Bugs where fixed.
>
> These are my Little Things for the Moment. Thx.
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Chris
>

Re: Some info for NetBeans 10 VC 1

[Geertjan Wielenga]

Yes, php depends on webcommon.

Release drivers are JDK 11 and PHP. That’s the focus of NetCAT, the other
three clusters are nice to have, but shouldn’t be a primary focus.

Gj

On Thursday, October 4, 2018, Christian Lenz  wrote:

> Hey,
>
> as I’m testing the PHP specs I have some Questions/Infos in General, not
> for PHP:
>
> 1. See this screenshot (https://imgur.com/a/uKgS0Y9) of a Multi monitor,
> I have a Laptop and 2 monitors. When I move NetBeans 10 to the Right
> monitor and open File, it will appears on the other monitor. I mean it is
> not a blocker or critical but not nice. We should fix it but hopefully not
> for NetBeans 10.1 or 11, Maybe a patch would be nice that can handle this.
> Will create a ticket for that, if there isn’t one yet.
>
> 2. The Little Checkbox inside the Plugin Portal went back to NetBeans
> 10.0, but it was removed in 9.0 what is the current state now? I was fine
> to not have this Checkbox anymore, because it is not Handy. I mean for the
> next realease (of Course, I will create a ticket) the view could be a tree
> to see the Groups (Show Details off) and if you expand it or click on Show
> Details you see everything. But this is a complete other Point. Only wanted
> to know whether the Checkbox is back again or it was added again by mistake.
>
> 3. I thought that Groovy and PHP are the only packages which went into NB
> 10.0. Now I can see that HTML5/JS which is webcommon, is also included into
> the release, I mean which is quite nice for me but we don’t have a tribe or
> test or smth else. Why was it included then? Is it needed for PHP? If not
> we should make a tribe for the release because it is now part of the core.
> Doesn’t matter new Features where added or Bugs where fixed.
>
> These are my Little Things for the Moment. Thx.
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Chris
>

Some info for NetBeans 10 VC 1

[Christian Lenz]

Hey,

as I’m testing the PHP specs I have some Questions/Infos in General, not for 
PHP:

1. See this screenshot (https://imgur.com/a/uKgS0Y9) of a Multi monitor, I have 
a Laptop and 2 monitors. When I move NetBeans 10 to the Right monitor and open 
File, it will appears on the other monitor. I mean it is not a blocker or 
critical but not nice. We should fix it but hopefully not for NetBeans 10.1 or 
11, Maybe a patch would be nice that can handle this. Will create a ticket for 
that, if there isn’t one yet.

2. The Little Checkbox inside the Plugin Portal went back to NetBeans 10.0, but 
it was removed in 9.0 what is the current state now? I was fine to not have 
this Checkbox anymore, because it is not Handy. I mean for the next realease 
(of Course, I will create a ticket) the view could be a tree to see the Groups 
(Show Details off) and if you expand it or click on Show Details you see 
everything. But this is a complete other Point. Only wanted to know whether the 
Checkbox is back again or it was added again by mistake.

3. I thought that Groovy and PHP are the only packages which went into NB 10.0. 
Now I can see that HTML5/JS which is webcommon, is also included into the 
release, I mean which is quite nice for me but we don’t have a tribe or test or 
smth else. Why was it included then? Is it needed for PHP? If not we should 
make a tribe for the release because it is now part of the core. Doesn’t matter 
new Features where added or Bugs where fixed.

These are my Little Things for the Moment. Thx.


Cheers

Chris 

Re: NetBeans javadoc at Apache (Re: Options, options (was Re: NetBeans javadoc at Apache))

[Geertjan Wielenga]

Any questions re infrastructure, and permissions, just pop over to
infra.chat and check there.

Gj

On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 3:05 PM Neil C Smith  wrote:

> On Wed, 3 Oct 2018 at 12:44, Antonio  wrote:
> > I think it's worth exploring this path. Let me know if I can be of help
> > on this.
>
> OK, looked at setting up the repo for this via self-serve as you
> mentioned from an earlier infra chat, but looks like we don't have
> permission to do that ourselves?!
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Neil
>
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Re: NetBeans javadoc at Apache (Re: Options, options (was Re: NetBeans javadoc at Apache))

[Neil C Smith]

On Wed, 3 Oct 2018 at 12:44, Antonio  wrote:
> I think it's worth exploring this path. Let me know if I can be of help
> on this.

OK, looked at setting up the repo for this via self-serve as you
mentioned from an earlier infra chat, but looks like we don't have
permission to do that ourselves?!

Best wishes,

Neil

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