Groovy support in Netbeans 10

2018-12-23 Thread minoleg
Hello,

I have downloaded a new Netbeans 10vc5 and I was not able to either open an 
existen Groovy project or create a new one.  When I tried to browse the disk 
for a Groovy project, Netbeans does not recognize any of them.  I was not able 
to create a new one as there is no Groovy entry in the New Project dialog 
either.  I do have the Groovy tab in Options->Miscellaneous though.

All of this is working fine in Netbeans 9 with Groovy modules form 8.2.  So 
what am I doing wrong?  And to what extent Groovy is supported in Netbeans 10?

Thanks,
Oleg


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Groovy in Netbeans 10

2018-12-23 Thread minoleg
Hello,

I have downloaded Netbeans 10vc5 and I cannot either open an existen Groovy 
project or create a new one.  When I browse the disk from the Open Project 
dialog Netbeans does not recognize any of my Groovy projects.  And there is no 
Groovy entry in the New Project dialog to create one.  But I can see Groovy tab 
in Options->Miscellaneous though.  All of this is working fine in Netbeans 9 
with the Groovy module form 8.2.

So what am I doing wrong? And to which extent does Netbeans 10 support Groovy?

Thank you,
Oleg


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Re: Groovy in Netbeans 10

2018-12-23 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
There has never been a ‘Groovy project’ type in NetBeans, except maybe by
means of an external plugin that I’ve never heard of.

Gj

On Sun, 23 Dec 2018 at 09:39, mino...@gmail.com  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I have downloaded Netbeans 10vc5 and I cannot either open an existen
> Groovy project or create a new one.  When I browse the disk from the Open
> Project dialog Netbeans does not recognize any of my Groovy projects.  And
> there is no Groovy entry in the New Project dialog to create one.  But I
> can see Groovy tab in Options->Miscellaneous though.  All of this is
> working fine in Netbeans 9 with the Groovy module form 8.2.
>
> So what am I doing wrong? And to which extent does Netbeans 10 support
> Groovy?
>
> Thank you,
> Oleg
>
>
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Re: Apache Netbeans 9.0 - PHP 7.3 support

2018-12-23 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
It’s supported out of the box in Apache NetBeans 10.

Gj

On Fri, 21 Dec 2018 at 12:08, Nathan  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> How do install the plugin to support PHP 7.3?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Nathan
>


Status and yet another IDE survey

2018-12-23 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Hi all!

We're getting very close to having the three Apache votes we need in the
Incubator to release Apache NetBeans 10, i.e., one more +1 is needed:

https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/12e90e3171b85cb1b2249c59fe25caeefd9f6edf0dc14b9916b0af6f@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E

Also, though I'm personally against any kind of SLOPPY survey (
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-selection_bias), as should anyone else
be too, there's a new one about IDEs and it would be great if everyone
would fill this one in (in favor of NetBeans of course), since our logical
rejection of such surveys keeps leading to NetBeans being seen as less
popular than it is:

https://t.co/VqwdM1C9cu

https://twitter.com/KoTurk77/status/1075776144417349633

Thanks, and the release should be out in the next few days, mentors reading
this, please cast your vote, it would make all the difference and happy
holidays and new year, which will be even better for NetBeans than the past
few years have been!

Gj


Re: CSS issus

2018-12-23 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Welcome and it would indeed be great if you'd contribute to the CSS support
in Apache NetBeans.

Can you be more specific about what you'd like to add, maybe what you'd
like to add is similar to something else and you could implement your
missing feature in a similar way?

When you provide more details, others on this list can advise you further.

Thanks,

Gj


On Wed, Dec 19, 2018 at 10:23 AM geoff  wrote:

> hello, sorry to be in touch by this way but i'm not sure how to do.
> May i report a bug or not.
>
> i'm using NETBEANS 10 vc4 at the moment and so fa so good to me.
> using PHP/HTML/JS/CSS
>
> thanks for the job.
>
>
> The big issues i have it is with CSS3.
>
> entries are missing, and some times errors occur but the "code" seams
> legitimate.
> i wanted to add some entries to those files
>
>
> incubator-netbeans/ide/css.editor/src/org/netbeans/modules/css/editor/module/
> main/properties/*
>
> but not sure it is the way to go.
> and i'm also not sure to be able to add them all and the right way.
>
>
> thank you to advice me, and for your time
>
> Geoff.
>
>
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Installer for NetBeans bundled with the JDK

2018-12-23 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Hi all,

Good news, Reema has provided the sources and instructions for creating an
installer for NetBeans together with the JDK:

https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/pull/1052

Would be great if someone would try out the instructions and add
comments/insights to the PR above.

Thanks,

Gj


Re: Installer for NetBeans bundled with the JDK

2018-12-23 Thread Emilian Bold
Oh, that's a pretty big PR. I will try it next week and see if I can
create an installer.

PS: Are we even allowed to bundle a JDK under Apache?

--emi

http://coolbeans.xyz/ - CoolBeans: An IDE for Java, JavaEE, PHP and more!

On Sun, Dec 23, 2018 at 11:46 AM Geertjan Wielenga
 wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Good news, Reema has provided the sources and instructions for creating an
> installer for NetBeans together with the JDK:
>
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/pull/1052
>
> Would be great if someone would try out the instructions and add
> comments/insights to the PR above.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Gj

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Re: Status and yet another IDE survey

2018-12-23 Thread Zoran Sevarac
It seems that the survey allows multiple submissions, so not sure if the
results are going to be trustworthy...

On Sun, Dec 23, 2018 at 10:23 AM Geertjan Wielenga
 wrote:

> Hi all!
>
> We're getting very close to having the three Apache votes we need in the
> Incubator to release Apache NetBeans 10, i.e., one more +1 is needed:
>
>
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/12e90e3171b85cb1b2249c59fe25caeefd9f6edf0dc14b9916b0af6f@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
>
> Also, though I'm personally against any kind of SLOPPY survey (
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-selection_bias), as should anyone else
> be too, there's a new one about IDEs and it would be great if everyone
> would fill this one in (in favor of NetBeans of course), since our logical
> rejection of such surveys keeps leading to NetBeans being seen as less
> popular than it is:
>
> https://t.co/VqwdM1C9cu
>
> https://twitter.com/KoTurk77/status/1075776144417349633
>
> Thanks, and the release should be out in the next few days, mentors reading
> this, please cast your vote, it would make all the difference and happy
> holidays and new year, which will be even better for NetBeans than the past
> few years have been!
>
> Gj
>


-- 
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Department of Software Engineering
University of Belgrade, Faculty of Organisational Sciences

Deep Netts   Co-founder & CEO  | Oracle
Groundbreaker Ambassador | Java Champion

Open source: Neuroph founder, Apache Net
Beans  contributor
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Netbinox install area?

2018-12-23 Thread Peter Nabbefeld



Hi,

when running a module project, I get the following messages in the IDE log:

[INFO] WARNING [org.netbeans.modules.netbinox]: Cannot compute install 
area. No common prefix between /usr/share/netbeans-incubator-10.0-vc5/ 
and 
/home/peter/NetBeansProjects/ProjectManagement/DocsTree/target/netbeans_clusters/docstree
[INFO] INFO [org.netbeans.modules.netbinox]: Install area set to 
file:/usr/share/netbeans-incubator-10.0-vc5/


I do understand the cause (NetBeans platform is set to 
"/usr/share/netbeans-incubator-10.0-vc5/" while it uses 
"/home/peter/NetBeansProjects/ProjectManagement/DocsTree/target/netbeans_clusters/docstree" 
as execution context is in 
"/home/peter/NetBeansProjects/ProjectManagement/DocsTree/target/netbeans_clusters/docstree"), 
but I'd like to know if I could change the installation folder for Netbinox?


Kind regards

Peter

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Re: Netbinox install area?

2018-12-23 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
>
> when running a module project
>

A lot more is needed than that in order to reproduce this.

Gj

On Sun, Dec 23, 2018 at 12:49 PM Peter Nabbefeld 
wrote:

>
> Hi,
>
> when running a module project, I get the following messages in the IDE log:
>
> [INFO] WARNING [org.netbeans.modules.netbinox]: Cannot compute install
> area. No common prefix between /usr/share/netbeans-incubator-10.0-vc5/
> and
>
> /home/peter/NetBeansProjects/ProjectManagement/DocsTree/target/netbeans_clusters/docstree
> [INFO] INFO [org.netbeans.modules.netbinox]: Install area set to
> file:/usr/share/netbeans-incubator-10.0-vc5/
>
> I do understand the cause (NetBeans platform is set to
> "/usr/share/netbeans-incubator-10.0-vc5/" while it uses
> "/home/peter/NetBeansProjects/ProjectManagement/DocsTree/target/netbeans_clusters/docstree"
>
> as execution context is in
> "/home/peter/NetBeansProjects/ProjectManagement/DocsTree/target/netbeans_clusters/docstree"),
>
> but I'd like to know if I could change the installation folder for
> Netbinox?
>
> Kind regards
>
> Peter
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Re: Installer for NetBeans bundled with the JDK

2018-12-23 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Apache only releases source files.

Just like the NetBeans binaries, an installer (bundled or not), is a
convenience binary.

Gj

On Sun, Dec 23, 2018 at 12:19 PM Emilian Bold 
wrote:

> Oh, that's a pretty big PR. I will try it next week and see if I can
> create an installer.
>
> PS: Are we even allowed to bundle a JDK under Apache?
>
> --emi
>
> http://coolbeans.xyz/ - CoolBeans: An IDE for Java, JavaEE, PHP and more!
>
> On Sun, Dec 23, 2018 at 11:46 AM Geertjan Wielenga
>  wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Good news, Reema has provided the sources and instructions for creating
> an
> > installer for NetBeans together with the JDK:
> >
> > https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/pull/1052
> >
> > Would be great if someone would try out the instructions and add
> > comments/insights to the PR above.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Gj
>
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Re: Installer for NetBeans bundled with the JDK

2018-12-23 Thread Emilian Bold
Oh, I didn't know the Apache rules about GPL don't apply to convenience
binaries.

--emi

On Sun, 23 Dec 2018 at 14:23, Geertjan Wielenga
 wrote:

> Apache only releases source files.
>
> Just like the NetBeans binaries, an installer (bundled or not), is a
> convenience binary.
>
> Gj
>
> On Sun, Dec 23, 2018 at 12:19 PM Emilian Bold 
> wrote:
>
> > Oh, that's a pretty big PR. I will try it next week and see if I can
> > create an installer.
> >
> > PS: Are we even allowed to bundle a JDK under Apache?
> >
> > --emi
> >
> > http://coolbeans.xyz/ - CoolBeans: An IDE for Java, JavaEE, PHP and
> more!
> >
> > On Sun, Dec 23, 2018 at 11:46 AM Geertjan Wielenga
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > Good news, Reema has provided the sources and instructions for creating
> > an
> > > installer for NetBeans together with the JDK:
> > >
> > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/pull/1052
> > >
> > > Would be great if someone would try out the instructions and add
> > > comments/insights to the PR above.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Gj
> >
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> >
> >
>
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Re: Installer for NetBeans bundled with the JDK

2018-12-23 Thread Matthias Bläsing
Hey Geertjan,

Am Sonntag, den 23.12.2018, 13:17 +0100 schrieb Geertjan Wielenga:
> 
> Just like the NetBeans binaries, an installer (bundled or not), is a
> convenience binary.
> 

The installer might be bundled (if build from donated code). A JDK
(that was Emilians question) is a different beast.

My reading is, that the apache foundation won't accept GPL*/GPL-2-CP
binaries in files distributed by it. That means we can't create a
bundled release.

That won't stop other though. An external project could create binaries
based on the Apache Netbeans source, that:

 * bundles nb-javac (GPL-2-CP)
 * bundles a JDK (plain OpenJDK, Azul JDK, Corretto should all be GPL-
   2-CP)
 * bundles JavaFX (GPL-2-CP)

Greetings

Matthias


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Re: Installer for NetBeans bundled with the JDK

2018-12-23 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Oracle itseld could bundle NetBeans with its JDK, and/or Amazon with its
JDK, and/or Azul, etc. The sources they’d need for doing that would be in
the Apache NetBeans Github repo thanks to Reema’s PR.

Gj

On Sunday, December 23, 2018, Matthias Bläsing 
wrote:

> Hey Geertjan,
>
> Am Sonntag, den 23.12.2018, 13:17 +0100 schrieb Geertjan Wielenga:
> >
> > Just like the NetBeans binaries, an installer (bundled or not), is a
> > convenience binary.
> >
>
> The installer might be bundled (if build from donated code). A JDK
> (that was Emilians question) is a different beast.
>
> My reading is, that the apache foundation won't accept GPL*/GPL-2-CP
> binaries in files distributed by it. That means we can't create a
> bundled release.
>
> That won't stop other though. An external project could create binaries
> based on the Apache Netbeans source, that:
>
>  * bundles nb-javac (GPL-2-CP)
>  * bundles a JDK (plain OpenJDK, Azul JDK, Corretto should all be GPL-
>2-CP)
>  * bundles JavaFX (GPL-2-CP)
>
> Greetings
>
> Matthias
>
>
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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Netbeans 10.0 (incubating) [vote candidate 5]

2018-12-23 Thread pieter . van . den . hombergh


At the moment I have issues with creating and running unit tests.
Environment: java 8, netbeans-10-vc5 
netbeans_jdkhome to java8
platform ubunutu 18.04

The issue is that I can create a unit test, which obviously uses the Junit 5 
templates.
But when I try to run them I get a 
"The  or  for  must include junit.jar if not in 
Ant's own classpath"

This is a real bummer, because it provents me to move to netbeans 10 for our 
initial java classes.
I would not mind starting Unit testing with JUnit5, but have a problem with an 
install fest, certainly in the light of 'with netbeans, things run out of the 
box'.

On the positive side: My php experienccce with NB10 using PHP 7.2 show no flaws.

On 2018/12/18 04:29:35, Laszlo Kishalmi  wrote: 
> Dear all,
> 
> Please vote on our 5th voting candidate for the 10.0 release of Apache 
> NetBeans (incubating).
> 
> If this voting candidate passes, another similar voting will be started 
> ongene...@incubator.apache.org, and if that passes too, then we can release 
> this version.
> 
> Apache NetBeans 10.0 (incubating) constitutes all but the enterprise cluster 
> in the Apache NetBeans Git repo, which together provide the NetBeans Platform 
> (i.e., the underlying application framework), as well as all the modules that 
> provide the Java SE, PHP, JavaScript and Groovy features of Apache NetBeans.
> 
> In short, Apache NetBeans 10.0 (incubating) is a full IDE for Java SE, PHP 
> and JavaScript development with some Groovy language support.
> 
> Build artifacts available here:
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/netbeans/incubating-netbeans/incubating-10.0-vc5/
> 
> This voting is on the following artifact:
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/netbeans/incubating-netbeans/incubating-10.0-vc5/incubating-netbeans-10.0-vc5-source.zip
> 
> Included in the above are the DEPENDENCIES, DISCLAIMER, LICENSE, and NOTICE 
> files, as well as a README file with build instructions, which are the same 
> as these:
> 
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/blob/10.0-vc5/README.md
> 
> SHA1: 028b47ca10118e616208e4949fb79c2e38d74fd5
> 
> KEYS file:
> 
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/netbeans/KEYS
> 
> Apache NetBeans Git Repo tag: 10.0-vc5 :
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/tree/10.0-vc5
> 
> Note: NetBeans license violation checks are managed via the 
> rat-exclusions.txt file:
> 
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/blob/10.0-vc5/nbbuild/rat-exclusions.txt
> 
> Rat report shows no unknown licenses, except for license files:
> 
> https://builds.apache.org/job/incubator-netbeans-release/380/artifact/rat-release-temp/nbbuild/build/rat-report.txt
> 
> Included as a convenience binary, not relevant for the voting purposes (unzip 
> it, run it and you'll see Apache NetBeans):
> 
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/netbeans/incubating-netbeans/incubating-10.0-vc5/incubating-netbeans-10.0-vc5-bin.zip
> 
> Release specific wiki page:
> 
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+10
> 
> How (and what) to try out the release:
> 
> 1. Download the artifact to be voted on and unzip it.
> 2. Check that the artifact does not contain any jar files,
> save the: 
> platform/autoupdate.services/test/unit/src/org/netbeans/api/autoupdate/data/empty.jar
> 3. Verify the cryptographic signatures, the NOTICE and LICENSE file
> 4. Build it using the README provided by the artifact.
> 5. Look in nbbuild/netbeans for the NetBeans installation created by the 
> build process.
> 
> 

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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Netbeans 10.0 (incubating) [vote candidate 5]

2018-12-23 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
This is a vote thread and the vote is closed. Stop sending messages here,
only votes, which would be meaningless at this point since the vote is
closed.

Start a new thread please with a clear new subject line.

Gj

On Sun, 23 Dec 2018 at 14:09, pieter.van.den.hombe...@gmail.com <
pieter.van.den.hombe...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> At the moment I have issues with creating and running unit tests.
> Environment: java 8, netbeans-10-vc5
> netbeans_jdkhome to java8
> platform ubunutu 18.04
>
> The issue is that I can create a unit test, which obviously uses the Junit
> 5 templates.
> But when I try to run them I get a
> "The  or  for  must include junit.jar if not
> in Ant's own classpath"
>
> This is a real bummer, because it provents me to move to netbeans 10 for
> our initial java classes.
> I would not mind starting Unit testing with JUnit5, but have a problem
> with an install fest, certainly in the light of 'with netbeans, things run
> out of the box'.
>
> On the positive side: My php experienccce with NB10 using PHP 7.2 show no
> flaws.
>
> On 2018/12/18 04:29:35, Laszlo Kishalmi 
> wrote:
> > Dear all,
> >
> > Please vote on our 5th voting candidate for the 10.0 release of Apache
> NetBeans (incubating).
> >
> > If this voting candidate passes, another similar voting will be started
> ongene...@incubator.apache.org, and if that passes too, then we can
> release this version.
> >
> > Apache NetBeans 10.0 (incubating) constitutes all but the enterprise
> cluster in the Apache NetBeans Git repo, which together provide the
> NetBeans Platform (i.e., the underlying application framework), as well as
> all the modules that provide the Java SE, PHP, JavaScript and Groovy
> features of Apache NetBeans.
> >
> > In short, Apache NetBeans 10.0 (incubating) is a full IDE for Java SE,
> PHP and JavaScript development with some Groovy language support.
> >
> > Build artifacts available here:
> >
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/netbeans/incubating-netbeans/incubating-10.0-vc5/
> >
> > This voting is on the following artifact:
> >
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/netbeans/incubating-netbeans/incubating-10.0-vc5/incubating-netbeans-10.0-vc5-source.zip
> >
> > Included in the above are the DEPENDENCIES, DISCLAIMER, LICENSE, and
> NOTICE files, as well as a README file with build instructions, which are
> the same as these:
> >
> > https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/blob/10.0-vc5/README.md
> >
> > SHA1: 028b47ca10118e616208e4949fb79c2e38d74fd5
> >
> > KEYS file:
> >
> > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/netbeans/KEYS
> >
> > Apache NetBeans Git Repo tag: 10.0-vc5 :
> > https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/tree/10.0-vc5
> >
> > Note: NetBeans license violation checks are managed via the
> rat-exclusions.txt file:
> >
> >
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/blob/10.0-vc5/nbbuild/rat-exclusions.txt
> >
> > Rat report shows no unknown licenses, except for license files:
> >
> >
> https://builds.apache.org/job/incubator-netbeans-release/380/artifact/rat-release-temp/nbbuild/build/rat-report.txt
> >
> > Included as a convenience binary, not relevant for the voting purposes
> (unzip it, run it and you'll see Apache NetBeans):
> >
> >
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/netbeans/incubating-netbeans/incubating-10.0-vc5/incubating-netbeans-10.0-vc5-bin.zip
> >
> > Release specific wiki page:
> >
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+10
> >
> > How (and what) to try out the release:
> >
> > 1. Download the artifact to be voted on and unzip it.
> > 2. Check that the artifact does not contain any jar files,
> > save the:
> platform/autoupdate.services/test/unit/src/org/netbeans/api/autoupdate/data/empty.jar
> > 3. Verify the cryptographic signatures, the NOTICE and LICENSE file
> > 4. Build it using the README provided by the artifact.
> > 5. Look in nbbuild/netbeans for the NetBeans installation created by the
> build process.
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Re: Installer for NetBeans bundled with the JDK

2018-12-23 Thread Emilian Bold
Well, this opens another discussion. I don't believe Oracle or Amazon could
'bundle' NetBeans for trademark reasons.

They could, of course, create their own IDE based on Apache NetBeans.

--emi

On Sun, 23 Dec 2018 at 15:08, Geertjan Wielenga
 wrote:

> Oracle itseld could bundle NetBeans with its JDK, and/or Amazon with its
> JDK, and/or Azul, etc. The sources they’d need for doing that would be in
> the Apache NetBeans Github repo thanks to Reema’s PR.
>
> Gj
>
> On Sunday, December 23, 2018, Matthias Bläsing 
> wrote:
>
> > Hey Geertjan,
> >
> > Am Sonntag, den 23.12.2018, 13:17 +0100 schrieb Geertjan Wielenga:
> > >
> > > Just like the NetBeans binaries, an installer (bundled or not), is a
> > > convenience binary.
> > >
> >
> > The installer might be bundled (if build from donated code). A JDK
> > (that was Emilians question) is a different beast.
> >
> > My reading is, that the apache foundation won't accept GPL*/GPL-2-CP
> > binaries in files distributed by it. That means we can't create a
> > bundled release.
> >
> > That won't stop other though. An external project could create binaries
> > based on the Apache Netbeans source, that:
> >
> >  * bundles nb-javac (GPL-2-CP)
> >  * bundles a JDK (plain OpenJDK, Azul JDK, Corretto should all be GPL-
> >2-CP)
> >  * bundles JavaFX (GPL-2-CP)
> >
> > Greetings
> >
> > Matthias
> >
> >
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> >
> >
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Re: Netbinox install area?

2018-12-23 Thread Peter Nabbefeld
Why? Behaviour is like I'd expect it, the question is, if it can be 
changed, and how it can be changed, i.e. if there exists any parameter 
to configure NetBeans which installation folder to use (I'd even just 
use it to get rid of the warning).


Kind regards

Peter


Am 23.12.18 um 13:18 schrieb Geertjan Wielenga:

when running a module project


A lot more is needed than that in order to reproduce this.

Gj

On Sun, Dec 23, 2018 at 12:49 PM Peter Nabbefeld 
wrote:


Hi,

when running a module project, I get the following messages in the IDE log:

[INFO] WARNING [org.netbeans.modules.netbinox]: Cannot compute install
area. No common prefix between /usr/share/netbeans-incubator-10.0-vc5/
and

/home/peter/NetBeansProjects/ProjectManagement/DocsTree/target/netbeans_clusters/docstree
[INFO] INFO [org.netbeans.modules.netbinox]: Install area set to
file:/usr/share/netbeans-incubator-10.0-vc5/

I do understand the cause (NetBeans platform is set to
"/usr/share/netbeans-incubator-10.0-vc5/" while it uses
"/home/peter/NetBeansProjects/ProjectManagement/DocsTree/target/netbeans_clusters/docstree"

as execution context is in
"/home/peter/NetBeansProjects/ProjectManagement/DocsTree/target/netbeans_clusters/docstree"),

but I'd like to know if I could change the installation folder for
Netbinox?

Kind regards

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Re: Netbinox install area?

2018-12-23 Thread Peter Nabbefeld
Em, sorry, running NB 10 VC5, I'm using latest NB 10 currently, so 
forgot to mention ...


However, this should be the case with every version.

Regards

Peter



Am 23.12.18 um 14:47 schrieb Peter Nabbefeld:
Why? Behaviour is like I'd expect it, the question is, if it can be 
changed, and how it can be changed, i.e. if there exists any parameter 
to configure NetBeans which installation folder to use (I'd even just 
use it to get rid of the warning).


Kind regards

Peter


Am 23.12.18 um 13:18 schrieb Geertjan Wielenga:

when running a module project


A lot more is needed than that in order to reproduce this.

Gj

On Sun, Dec 23, 2018 at 12:49 PM Peter Nabbefeld 


wrote:


Hi,

when running a module project, I get the following messages in the 
IDE log:


[INFO] WARNING [org.netbeans.modules.netbinox]: Cannot compute install
area. No common prefix between /usr/share/netbeans-incubator-10.0-vc5/
and

/home/peter/NetBeansProjects/ProjectManagement/DocsTree/target/netbeans_clusters/docstree 


[INFO] INFO [org.netbeans.modules.netbinox]: Install area set to
file:/usr/share/netbeans-incubator-10.0-vc5/

I do understand the cause (NetBeans platform is set to
"/usr/share/netbeans-incubator-10.0-vc5/" while it uses
"/home/peter/NetBeansProjects/ProjectManagement/DocsTree/target/netbeans_clusters/docstree" 



as execution context is in
"/home/peter/NetBeansProjects/ProjectManagement/DocsTree/target/netbeans_clusters/docstree"), 



but I'd like to know if I could change the installation folder for
Netbinox?

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java.lang.UnsupportedOperationException: command: clean, JavaRunner ...

2018-12-23 Thread Peter Nabbefeld



Hello,

I'm getting the following exception when running and (re-)deploying a 
module in NB 10:


java.lang.UnsupportedOperationException: command: clean, JavaRunner 
impls: [org.netbeans.modules.java.source.ant.ProjectRunnerImpl@3a5bd107]
    at 
org.netbeans.api.java.project.runner.JavaRunner.execute(JavaRunner.java:303)
    at 
org.netbeans.modules.maven.cos.CosChecker.cleanGeneratedClassfiles(CosChecker.java:295)
    at 
org.netbeans.modules.maven.cos.CosChecker.touchProject(CosChecker.java:482)
    at 
org.netbeans.modules.maven.cos.CosChecker$CosPOH$1.propertyChange(CosChecker.java:643)
    at 
java.desktop/java.beans.PropertyChangeSupport.fire(PropertyChangeSupport.java:341)
    at 
java.desktop/java.beans.PropertyChangeSupport.firePropertyChange(PropertyChangeSupport.java:333)
    at 
java.desktop/java.beans.PropertyChangeSupport.firePropertyChange(PropertyChangeSupport.java:266)
    at 
org.netbeans.modules.maven.api.NbMavenProject.doFireReload(NbMavenProject.java:550)
    at 
org.netbeans.modules.maven.api.NbMavenProject.access$200(NbMavenProject.java:72)
    at 
org.netbeans.modules.maven.api.NbMavenProject$AccessorImpl.doFireReload(NbMavenProject.java:118)
    at 
org.netbeans.modules.maven.NbMavenProjectImpl$1.run(NbMavenProjectImpl.java:130)

Caused: org.openide.util.RequestProcessor$SlowItem: task failed due to
    at 
org.openide.util.RequestProcessor$Task.schedule(RequestProcessor.java:1459)
    at 
org.netbeans.modules.maven.NbMavenProjectImpl.fireProjectReload(NbMavenProjectImpl.java:463)
    at 
org.netbeans.modules.maven.api.NbMavenProject.fireProjectReload(NbMavenProject.java:544)
    at 
org.netbeans.modules.maven.api.NbMavenProject.fireMavenProjectReload(NbMavenProject.java:564)
    at 
org.netbeans.modules.maven.NbMavenProjectImpl$Updater.fileChanged(NbMavenProjectImpl.java:934)
    at 
org.openide.filesystems.FileChangeImpl.fileChanged(FileChangeImpl.java:111)
    at 
org.openide.filesystems.FCLSupport$DispatchEventWrapper.dispatchEventImpl(FCLSupport.java:153)
    at 
org.openide.filesystems.FCLSupport$DispatchEventWrapperSingle.dispatchAllEventsSync(FCLSupport.java:199)
    at 
org.openide.filesystems.FCLSupport$DispatchEventWrapper.dispatchEvent(FCLSupport.java:112)

    at org.openide.filesystems.FCLSupport.dispatchEvent(FCLSupport.java:80)
    at org.openide.filesystems.FileObject$ED.dispatch(FileObject.java:1373)
    at 
org.openide.filesystems.EventControl.invokeDispatchers(EventControl.java:188)
    at 
org.openide.filesystems.EventControl.exitAtomicAction(EventControl.java:163)
    at 
org.openide.filesystems.EventControl.runAtomicAction(EventControl.java:104)
    at 
org.openide.filesystems.FileSystem.runAtomicAction(FileSystem.java:494)
    at 
org.netbeans.modules.maven.M2AuxilaryConfigImpl$2.run(M2AuxilaryConfigImpl.java:126)
    at 
org.openide.util.RequestProcessor$Task.run(RequestProcessor.java:1418)
    at 
org.netbeans.modules.openide.util.GlobalLookup.execute(GlobalLookup.java:45)

    at org.openide.util.lookup.Lookups.executeWith(Lookups.java:278)
[catch] at 
org.openide.util.RequestProcessor$Processor.run(RequestProcessor.java:2033)


At the moment, I'd just like to know, if this is a bug in Maven support 
or if it's just a problem restarting the "slave" IDE.


Steps to reproduce are in my case:
1. Start NB
2. Run the module project (which starts the "slave" IDE)
3. Try to re-deploy the module in the slave

As You can see, the stack trace shows an UnsupportedOperationException 
for the "clean" command, but it's caused by a problem at 
org.netbeans.modules.maven.NbMavenProjectImpl.fireProjectReload


Kind regards

Peter

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Re: Installer for NetBeans bundled with the JDK

2018-12-23 Thread Neil C Smith
On Sun, 23 Dec 2018 at 12:44, Matthias Bläsing
 wrote:
> The installer might be bundled (if build from donated code). A JDK
> (that was Emilians question) is a different beast.

Personally I'd be more interested in looking into non-Java-based
installers (eg. InnoSetup on Windows) that could download a JDK as an
optional part of the installation process.

Although I do hope there's a shift in Apache policy towards bundling
"system" dependencies that are rapidly becoming the opposite!

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Re: Netbinox install area?

2018-12-23 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
I’m sorry, I am not able to help. For me “when running a module project” is
not enough info. Tell me exactly what to do, what the expected outcome is,
what the actual outcome is, I am not going to guess. Complete environment
needs to he described too. Ignoring this thread until these details are
provided.

Gj

On Sunday, December 23, 2018, Peter Nabbefeld 
wrote:

> Em, sorry, running NB 10 VC5, I'm using latest NB 10 currently, so forgot
> to mention ...
>
> However, this should be the case with every version.
>
> Regards
>
> Peter
>
>
>
> Am 23.12.18 um 14:47 schrieb Peter Nabbefeld:
>
>> Why? Behaviour is like I'd expect it, the question is, if it can be
>> changed, and how it can be changed, i.e. if there exists any parameter to
>> configure NetBeans which installation folder to use (I'd even just use it
>> to get rid of the warning).
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>> Peter
>>
>>
>> Am 23.12.18 um 13:18 schrieb Geertjan Wielenga:
>>
>>> when running a module project

 A lot more is needed than that in order to reproduce this.
>>>
>>> Gj
>>>
>>> On Sun, Dec 23, 2018 at 12:49 PM Peter Nabbefeld >> >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,

 when running a module project, I get the following messages in the IDE
 log:

 [INFO] WARNING [org.netbeans.modules.netbinox]: Cannot compute install
 area. No common prefix between /usr/share/netbeans-incubator-10.0-vc5/
 and

 /home/peter/NetBeansProjects/ProjectManagement/DocsTree/target/netbeans_clusters/docstree

 [INFO] INFO [org.netbeans.modules.netbinox]: Install area set to
 file:/usr/share/netbeans-incubator-10.0-vc5/

 I do understand the cause (NetBeans platform is set to
 "/usr/share/netbeans-incubator-10.0-vc5/" while it uses
 "/home/peter/NetBeansProjects/ProjectManagement/DocsTree/tar
 get/netbeans_clusters/docstree"

 as execution context is in
 "/home/peter/NetBeansProjects/ProjectManagement/DocsTree/tar
 get/netbeans_clusters/docstree"),

 but I'd like to know if I could change the installation folder for
 Netbinox?

 Kind regards

 Peter

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Re: Netbinox install area?

2018-12-23 Thread Emilian Bold
Peter is continuing his quest of running OSGi modules inside the
Platform (on top of Equinox / Netbinox). I know this since we talked
about this in another thread but I understand how Geertjan might be
confused. For me it's rather clear what the problem is but I don't
really have the time to duplicate the issue on my system. My 2c.

--emi

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On Sun, Dec 23, 2018 at 4:58 PM Geertjan Wielenga
 wrote:
>
> I’m sorry, I am not able to help. For me “when running a module project” is
> not enough info. Tell me exactly what to do, what the expected outcome is,
> what the actual outcome is, I am not going to guess. Complete environment
> needs to he described too. Ignoring this thread until these details are
> provided.
>
> Gj
>
> On Sunday, December 23, 2018, Peter Nabbefeld 
> wrote:
>
> > Em, sorry, running NB 10 VC5, I'm using latest NB 10 currently, so forgot
> > to mention ...
> >
> > However, this should be the case with every version.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Peter
> >
> >
> >
> > Am 23.12.18 um 14:47 schrieb Peter Nabbefeld:
> >
> >> Why? Behaviour is like I'd expect it, the question is, if it can be
> >> changed, and how it can be changed, i.e. if there exists any parameter to
> >> configure NetBeans which installation folder to use (I'd even just use it
> >> to get rid of the warning).
> >>
> >> Kind regards
> >>
> >> Peter
> >>
> >>
> >> Am 23.12.18 um 13:18 schrieb Geertjan Wielenga:
> >>
> >>> when running a module project
> 
>  A lot more is needed than that in order to reproduce this.
> >>>
> >>> Gj
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, Dec 23, 2018 at 12:49 PM Peter Nabbefeld  >>> >
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi,
> 
>  when running a module project, I get the following messages in the IDE
>  log:
> 
>  [INFO] WARNING [org.netbeans.modules.netbinox]: Cannot compute install
>  area. No common prefix between /usr/share/netbeans-incubator-10.0-vc5/
>  and
> 
>  /home/peter/NetBeansProjects/ProjectManagement/DocsTree/target/netbeans_clusters/docstree
> 
>  [INFO] INFO [org.netbeans.modules.netbinox]: Install area set to
>  file:/usr/share/netbeans-incubator-10.0-vc5/
> 
>  I do understand the cause (NetBeans platform is set to
>  "/usr/share/netbeans-incubator-10.0-vc5/" while it uses
>  "/home/peter/NetBeansProjects/ProjectManagement/DocsTree/tar
>  get/netbeans_clusters/docstree"
> 
>  as execution context is in
>  "/home/peter/NetBeansProjects/ProjectManagement/DocsTree/tar
>  get/netbeans_clusters/docstree"),
> 
>  but I'd like to know if I could change the installation folder for
>  Netbinox?
> 
>  Kind regards
> 
>  Peter
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Re: Installer for NetBeans bundled with the JDK

2018-12-23 Thread Emilian Bold
Ideally I would like Apache to make some policy changes. But now I
also have a way to do what I believe it's best for the users and the
end product regardless of what Apache decides.

InnoSetup is good enough for a Windows installer. I guess it's
possible to download the JDK as part of the installation but what I
care most is how to update the bundled JDK! I have an idea here but
need time to experiment.

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On Sun, Dec 23, 2018 at 4:29 PM Neil C Smith  wrote:
>
> On Sun, 23 Dec 2018 at 12:44, Matthias Bläsing
>  wrote:
> > The installer might be bundled (if build from donated code). A JDK
> > (that was Emilians question) is a different beast.
>
> Personally I'd be more interested in looking into non-Java-based
> installers (eg. InnoSetup on Windows) that could download a JDK as an
> optional part of the installation process.
>
> Although I do hope there's a shift in Apache policy towards bundling
> "system" dependencies that are rapidly becoming the opposite!
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Neil
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Re: [DISCUSS] Release Apache Netbeans 10.0 (incubating) [vote candidate 5]

2018-12-23 Thread Matthias Bläsing
Hi Emilian,

Am Mittwoch, den 19.12.2018, 09:49 +0200 schrieb Emilian Bold:
> I was just grep-ing for GPL and found
> ./platform/o.n.core/licenses/LICENSE.txt which mentions that
> 
> > The Common Development and Distribution License
> > (CDDL), Version 1.0 governs your use of:
> > NetBeans Platform software
> 
> There's also ./platform/o.n.core/licenses/THIRDPARTYLICENSEREADME.txt
> with the text of GPL w/ CPE and it seems to be related to Swing
> Layout
> Extensions which I don't believe we include anymore (or do we?).
> 
> And finally there's  ./platform/o.n.core/licenses/DISTRIBUTION.txt
> for
> JavaHelp 2.0 which we also excluded under Apache.
> 
> The whole ./platform/o.n.core/licenses/ folder should be removed.
> 
> There's also ./nbbuild/standard-nbm-license.txt with the CDDL and GPL
> w/ CPE text which probably should also be deleted.

agreed. I created: NETBEANS-1818.

Greetings

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Re: Installer for NetBeans bundled with the JDK

2018-12-23 Thread Erik Östlund
I think using the Microsoft Store could be an interesting option. We could
package NetBeans with a dedicated JDK and ensure that they are both
up-to-date AND compatible with each other. It would basically be a
one-click process for new users to get started. I like the route Ubuntu has
taken by providing LTS and non-LTS-packages on the Microsoft Store. We
would do something similar with NetBeans and ship LTS-packages based on
Java 11 while the non-LTS-packages get their Java versions incremented
every six months.

Den sön 23 dec. 2018 kl 20:50 skrev Emilian Bold :

> Ideally I would like Apache to make some policy changes. But now I
> also have a way to do what I believe it's best for the users and the
> end product regardless of what Apache decides.
>
> InnoSetup is good enough for a Windows installer. I guess it's
> possible to download the JDK as part of the installation but what I
> care most is how to update the bundled JDK! I have an idea here but
> need time to experiment.
>
> --emi
>
> http://coolbeans.xyz/ - CoolBeans: An IDE for Java, JavaEE, PHP and more!
> On Sun, Dec 23, 2018 at 4:29 PM Neil C Smith 
> wrote:
> >
> > On Sun, 23 Dec 2018 at 12:44, Matthias Bläsing
> >  wrote:
> > > The installer might be bundled (if build from donated code). A JDK
> > > (that was Emilians question) is a different beast.
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Re: Please report any questionable license handling as BLOCKER!

2018-12-23 Thread Laszlo Kishalmi

Just bringing this up again.

There has been some licensing concerns arisen during the voting, even 
these are non-blocking for release 10.0 (so far), I'd like to regard 
them as BLOCKER for the Next release.


This is important!

Thank you!


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Dear all,

I'd like to draw attention to that, if somebody founds a License 
violation issue or even just has some doubts about that, please report 
that in JIRA with BLOCKER priority.


Thank you!

Laszlo Kishalmi



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Re: Please report any questionable license handling as BLOCKER!

2018-12-23 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Agreed.

Gj

On Sunday, December 23, 2018, Laszlo Kishalmi 
wrote:

> Just bringing this up again.
>
> There has been some licensing concerns arisen during the voting, even
> these are non-blocking for release 10.0 (so far), I'd like to regard them
> as BLOCKER for the Next release.
>
> This is important!
>
> Thank you!
>
>
> On 11/23/18 12:46 PM, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote:
>
> Dear all,
>>
>> I'd like to draw attention to that, if somebody founds a License
>> violation issue or even just has some doubts about that, please report that
>> in JIRA with BLOCKER priority.
>>
>> Thank you!
>>
>> Laszlo Kishalmi
>>
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Re: Groovy in Netbeans 10

2018-12-23 Thread minoleg
Hi Gj,

I disagree.  Any directory that contains 'application.properties' file is 
considered to be a Grails project and can be opened in the previous versions of 
Netbeans. There was also the 'Groovy' folder in New Project dialog to create a 
new project, which is not there anymore.

And I am not sure how can we use Groovy in Netbeans 10 if this functionality is 
not working.  Is any other way to work on a Grails project?

Thanks,
Oleg


On 2018/12/23 08:41:16, Geertjan Wielenga 
 wrote: 
> There has never been a ‘Groovy project’ type in NetBeans, except maybe by
> means of an external plugin that I’ve never heard of.
> 
> Gj
> 
> On Sun, 23 Dec 2018 at 09:39, mino...@gmail.com  wrote:
> 
> > Hello,
> >
> > I have downloaded Netbeans 10vc5 and I cannot either open an existen
> > Groovy project or create a new one.  When I browse the disk from the Open
> > Project dialog Netbeans does not recognize any of my Groovy projects.  And
> > there is no Groovy entry in the New Project dialog to create one.  But I
> > can see Groovy tab in Options->Miscellaneous though.  All of this is
> > working fine in Netbeans 9 with the Groovy module form 8.2.
> >
> > So what am I doing wrong? And to which extent does Netbeans 10 support
> > Groovy?
> >
> > Thank you,
> > Oleg
> >
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Re: Groovy in Netbeans 10

2018-12-23 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Yes, the Grails support has been removed/disabled, what we had was very
outdated, we need to take a look at this again, i.e., update to the latest
Grails version. We thought it better to disable it than to only support an
old version. Do you want to help and get involved in working in this part
of Apache NetBeans?

Gh

On Mon, 24 Dec 2018 at 07:31, mino...@gmail.com  wrote:

> Hi Gj,
>
> I disagree.  Any directory that contains 'application.properties' file is
> considered to be a Grails project and can be opened in the previous
> versions of Netbeans. There was also the 'Groovy' folder in New Project
> dialog to create a new project, which is not there anymore.
>
> And I am not sure how can we use Groovy in Netbeans 10 if this
> functionality is not working.  Is any other way to work on a Grails project?
>
> Thanks,
> Oleg
>
>
> On 2018/12/23 08:41:16, Geertjan Wielenga
>  wrote:
> > There has never been a ‘Groovy project’ type in NetBeans, except maybe by
> > means of an external plugin that I’ve never heard of.
> >
> > Gj
> >
> > On Sun, 23 Dec 2018 at 09:39, mino...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
> >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I have downloaded Netbeans 10vc5 and I cannot either open an existen
> > > Groovy project or create a new one.  When I browse the disk from the
> Open
> > > Project dialog Netbeans does not recognize any of my Groovy projects.
> And
> > > there is no Groovy entry in the New Project dialog to create one.  But
> I
> > > can see Groovy tab in Options->Miscellaneous though.  All of this is
> > > working fine in Netbeans 9 with the Groovy module form 8.2.
> > >
> > > So what am I doing wrong? And to which extent does Netbeans 10 support
> > > Groovy?
> > >
> > > Thank you,
> > > Oleg
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Re: Groovy in Netbeans 10

2018-12-23 Thread minoleg
Thank you, Geertjan.  I am not sure that I see the reason of removing Grails 
support event it's for an older version.  But at least it clears thing out.  Is 
there a workaround? Can I a compile the supporting module myself? Can I use the 
8.2 module?

Regards,
Oleg


On 2018/12/24 06:35:35, Geertjan Wielenga 
 wrote: 
> Yes, the Grails support has been removed/disabled, what we had was very
> outdated, we need to take a look at this again, i.e., update to the latest
> Grails version. We thought it better to disable it than to only support an
> old version. Do you want to help and get involved in working in this part
> of Apache NetBeans?
> 
> Gh
> 
> On Mon, 24 Dec 2018 at 07:31, mino...@gmail.com  wrote:
> 
> > Hi Gj,
> >
> > I disagree.  Any directory that contains 'application.properties' file is
> > considered to be a Grails project and can be opened in the previous
> > versions of Netbeans. There was also the 'Groovy' folder in New Project
> > dialog to create a new project, which is not there anymore.
> >
> > And I am not sure how can we use Groovy in Netbeans 10 if this
> > functionality is not working.  Is any other way to work on a Grails project?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Oleg
> >
> >
> > On 2018/12/23 08:41:16, Geertjan Wielenga
> >  wrote:
> > > There has never been a ‘Groovy project’ type in NetBeans, except maybe by
> > > means of an external plugin that I’ve never heard of.
> > >
> > > Gj
> > >
> > > On Sun, 23 Dec 2018 at 09:39, mino...@gmail.com 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > I have downloaded Netbeans 10vc5 and I cannot either open an existen
> > > > Groovy project or create a new one.  When I browse the disk from the
> > Open
> > > > Project dialog Netbeans does not recognize any of my Groovy projects.
> > And
> > > > there is no Groovy entry in the New Project dialog to create one.  But
> > I
> > > > can see Groovy tab in Options->Miscellaneous though.  All of this is
> > > > working fine in Netbeans 9 with the Groovy module form 8.2.
> > > >
> > > > So what am I doing wrong? And to which extent does Netbeans 10 support
> > > > Groovy?
> > > >
> > > > Thank you,
> > > > Oleg
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