[RESULT ] [VOTE] PMC chair for Apache NetBeans

[Glenn Holmer]

After being open for six days, this vote is complete. I count 44 +1
votes (25 binding), no 0 and no -1. By unanimous vote, Geertjan Wielenga
will be the PMC chair of NetBeans upon our graduation to a top-level
Apache project.

> This voting thread is to confirm Geertjan Wielenga as the first PMC
> chair of NetBeans as we leave incubation and begin our journey as a
> top-level Apache project. As an Oracle employee, Geertjan has been in a
> unique position to help guide the project to independence and is the
> best choice to complete that process.
> 
> As a reminder, here are the duties of the PMC chair:
> 
> http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#chair
> 
> Please indicate your vote with +1, 0, or -1.

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Re: [VOTE] PMC chair for Apache NetBeans

[John Kostaras]

+1
:)

On Wed, 6 Mar 2019 at 17:17, Paul Anderson  wrote:

> Big +1…!!
>
> Paul Anderson
>
> On Mar 6, 2019, at 1:02 AM, Ludovic HOCHET  wrote:
>
> > +1
> >
> > Le ven. 1 mars 2019 à 15:29, Glenn Holmer  a
> > écrit :
> >
> >> This voting thread is to confirm Geertjan Wielenga as the first PMC
> >> chair of NetBeans as we leave incubation and begin our journey as a
> >> top-level Apache project. As an Oracle employee, Geertjan has been in a
> >> unique position to help guide the project to independence and is the
> >> best choice to complete that process.
> >>
> >> As a reminder, here are the duties of the PMC chair:
> >>
> >> http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#chair
> >>
> >> Please indicate your vote with +1, 0, or -1.
> >>
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Re: [VOTE] PMC chair for Apache NetBeans

[Paul Anderson]

Big +1…!!

Paul Anderson

On Mar 6, 2019, at 1:02 AM, Ludovic HOCHET  wrote:

> +1
> 
> Le ven. 1 mars 2019 à 15:29, Glenn Holmer  a
> écrit :
> 
>> This voting thread is to confirm Geertjan Wielenga as the first PMC
>> chair of NetBeans as we leave incubation and begin our journey as a
>> top-level Apache project. As an Oracle employee, Geertjan has been in a
>> unique position to help guide the project to independence and is the
>> best choice to complete that process.
>> 
>> As a reminder, here are the duties of the PMC chair:
>> 
>> http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#chair
>> 
>> Please indicate your vote with +1, 0, or -1.
>> 
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Re: [VOTE] PMC chair for Apache NetBeans

[Ludovic HOCHET]

+1

Le ven. 1 mars 2019 à 15:29, Glenn Holmer  a
écrit :

> This voting thread is to confirm Geertjan Wielenga as the first PMC
> chair of NetBeans as we leave incubation and begin our journey as a
> top-level Apache project. As an Oracle employee, Geertjan has been in a
> unique position to help guide the project to independence and is the
> best choice to complete that process.
>
> As a reminder, here are the duties of the PMC chair:
>
> http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#chair
>
> Please indicate your vote with +1, 0, or -1.
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Re: [VOTE] PMC chair for Apache NetBeans

[Jaroslav Tulach]

+1

Without Geertjan's enthusiasm, passion for the NetBeans project and his hard 
work inside of Oracle as well as his endless promotion of the brand 
externally, there would be no Apache NetBeans as we know it now.

Geertjan fully deserves to be the PMC chair. His only drawback (e.g. being an 
Oracle employee[1]) is negligible compared to the achievements he has made!

My vote goes to Geertjan, the NetBeans Saviour!

Jaroslav Tulach
NetBeans founder and initial architect

[1] It is not drawback per se, it just may be perceived as a drawback by some.

Dne pátek 1. března 2019 15:28:52 CET, Glenn Holmer napsal(a):
> This voting thread is to confirm Geertjan Wielenga as the first PMC
> chair of NetBeans as we leave incubation and begin our journey as a
> top-level Apache project. As an Oracle employee, Geertjan has been in a
> unique position to help guide the project to independence and is the
> best choice to complete that process.
> 
> As a reminder, here are the duties of the PMC chair:
> 
> http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#chair
> 
> Please indicate your vote with +1, 0, or -1.





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Re: [VOTE] PMC chair for Apache NetBeans

[Junichi Yamamoto]

+1

Junichi

On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 11:29 PM Glenn Holmer  wrote:
>
> This voting thread is to confirm Geertjan Wielenga as the first PMC
> chair of NetBeans as we leave incubation and begin our journey as a
> top-level Apache project. As an Oracle employee, Geertjan has been in a
> unique position to help guide the project to independence and is the
> best choice to complete that process.
>
> As a reminder, here are the duties of the PMC chair:
>
> http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#chair
>
> Please indicate your vote with +1, 0, or -1.
>
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Re: [VOTE] PMC chair for Apache NetBeans

[reema . taneja]

+1

Reema


On 05/03/19 5:23 PM, Ate Douma wrote:

+1

Ate

On 01/03/2019 15.28, Glenn Holmer wrote:

This voting thread is to confirm Geertjan Wielenga as the first PMC
chair of NetBeans as we leave incubation and begin our journey as a
top-level Apache project. As an Oracle employee, Geertjan has been in a
unique position to help guide the project to independence and is the
best choice to complete that process.

As a reminder, here are the duties of the PMC chair:

https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.apache.org_dev_pmc.html-23chair&d=DwICaQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=I_-Y15BecdUmuYLJbvbi0hFUs7JgHZnV_jPFSP8DQF0&m=hbiGs_Jgk3ahpHBd6jDkqd2h1cU3xM6hgyT2gvC0Qes&s=Q9MCLJZ8z1uL7rJZFiKArTrQkFmHzg9KBRIgnP-CAA8&e= 



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Re: [VOTE] PMC chair for Apache NetBeans

[Daniel Gruno]

Also a clear +1 from me :)

On 3/5/19 12:53 PM, Ate Douma wrote:

+1

Ate

On 01/03/2019 15.28, Glenn Holmer wrote:

This voting thread is to confirm Geertjan Wielenga as the first PMC
chair of NetBeans as we leave incubation and begin our journey as a
top-level Apache project. As an Oracle employee, Geertjan has been in a
unique position to help guide the project to independence and is the
best choice to complete that process.

As a reminder, here are the duties of the PMC chair:

http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#chair

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Re: [VOTE] PMC chair for Apache NetBeans

[Ate Douma]

+1

Ate

On 01/03/2019 15.28, Glenn Holmer wrote:

This voting thread is to confirm Geertjan Wielenga as the first PMC
chair of NetBeans as we leave incubation and begin our journey as a
top-level Apache project. As an Oracle employee, Geertjan has been in a
unique position to help guide the project to independence and is the
best choice to complete that process.

As a reminder, here are the duties of the PMC chair:

http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#chair

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Re: [VOTE] PMC chair for Apache NetBeans

[Arunava Sinha]

+1

Arunava

On 3/1/2019 7:58 PM, Glenn Holmer wrote:

This voting thread is to confirm Geertjan Wielenga as the first PMC
chair of NetBeans as we leave incubation and begin our journey as a
top-level Apache project. As an Oracle employee, Geertjan has been in a
unique position to help guide the project to independence and is the
best choice to complete that process.

As a reminder, here are the duties of the PMC chair:

https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.apache.org_dev_pmc.html-23chair&d=DwICaQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=0iEQnHhKGriSNkCA1-Ki6rDkb-drwubOsNfMCo_m5Ck&m=RqDL2EzfRPuLrbp2XLS4GF_9Gvnit3OkxvfMS2Lps8o&s=1ChrvQJSuuBjWYWX0L7U8IyZSlKELRqpzIXMkHZD7rU&e=

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Re: [VOTE] PMC chair for Apache NetBeans

[Jiří Kovalský]

+1

-Jirka

Dne 01. 03. 19 v 15:28 Glenn Holmer napsal(a):


This voting thread is to confirm Geertjan Wielenga as the first PMC
chair of NetBeans as we leave incubation and begin our journey as a
top-level Apache project. As an Oracle employee, Geertjan has been in a
unique position to help guide the project to independence and is the
best choice to complete that process.

As a reminder, here are the duties of the PMC chair:

https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.apache.org_dev_pmc.html-23chair&d=DwICaQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=8_Pz0x0SKeT5e3IehhQKCbQ2xl3tz40jnCU133NrdP4&m=D7eykvxxpm6AuR-M1T9aw5llo6dNxAjr_2TyALPXplY&s=OqTv38V9ehnBhAsnIcyeFK-OnvbT2XAgwJBo_Jzkb0c&e=

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Re: [VOTE] PMC chair for Apache NetBeans

[Toni Epple]

+1

Von meinem iPad gesendet

> Am 05.03.2019 um 02:41 schrieb Kai Uwe Pel :
> 
> +1
> 
> 
>> On 3/1/2019 3:28 PM, Glenn Holmer wrote:
>> This voting thread is to confirm Geertjan Wielenga as the first PMC
>> chair of NetBeans as we leave incubation and begin our journey as a
>> top-level Apache project. As an Oracle employee, Geertjan has been in a
>> unique position to help guide the project to independence and is the
>> best choice to complete that process.
>> 
>> As a reminder, here are the duties of the PMC chair:
>> 
>> http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#chair
>> 
>> Please indicate your vote with +1, 0, or -1.
>> 
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Re: [VOTE] PMC chair for Apache NetBeans

[Kai Uwe Pel]

+1


On 3/1/2019 3:28 PM, Glenn Holmer wrote:

This voting thread is to confirm Geertjan Wielenga as the first PMC
chair of NetBeans as we leave incubation and begin our journey as a
top-level Apache project. As an Oracle employee, Geertjan has been in a
unique position to help guide the project to independence and is the
best choice to complete that process.

As a reminder, here are the duties of the PMC chair:

http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#chair

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Re: [VOTE] PMC chair for Apache NetBeans

[Martin Klähn]

+1

Martin

Ralph Benjamin Ruijs  schrieb am Mo., 4. März
2019, 07:24:

> +1
>
> - Ralph
>
> > Op 4 mrt. 2019 om 02:30 heeft constantin drabo 
> het volgende geschreven:
> >
> > +1
> >
> > ?? La Terre est le berceau de l'humanit??, mais on ne passe pas sa vie
> enti??re dans un berceau. ??
> > - ConstantinE. Tsiolkovski , p??re de l'astronautique?? et de
> l'a??rospatiale modernes.
> > 
> > De : Glenn Holmer 
> > Envoyé : vendredi 1 mars 2019 02:28
> > À : dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > Objet : [VOTE] PMC chair for Apache NetBeans
> >
> > This voting thread is to confirm Geertjan Wielenga as the first PMC
> > chair of NetBeans as we leave incubation and begin our journey as a
> > top-level Apache project. As an Oracle employee, Geertjan has been in a
> > unique position to help guide the project to independence and is the
> > best choice to complete that process.
> >
> > As a reminder, here are the duties of the PMC chair:
> >
> > http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#chair
> >
> > Please indicate your vote with +1, 0, or -1.
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Re: [VOTE] PMC chair for Apache NetBeans

[Bertrand Delacretaz]

Hi,

On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 5:39 PM Glenn Holmer  wrote:
> ...the question was whether it would be unseemly to have an Oracle
> employee as PMC chair. I think there's clear agreement that that's not
> the case

Yes, I think Geertjan has sufficiently demonstrated his independence
and understanding of the Apache's Fierce Independence From
Organizations principle ;-)

> ...And speaking of pedantism :) how long should a vote like this stay open?...

In general a vote needs to be open for at least 72 hours so that all
community members who want to vote can do so.

Then, you tally it and it's good to differentiate between "binding"
votes from people on the PPMC and "non-binding" ones from others who
are welcome to vote as well.

>From a formal point of view, only binding votes count, but if there's
a strong disconnect between those and the non-binding ones it's a bad
sign that should be addressed.

-Bertrand

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Re: [VOTE] PMC chair for Apache NetBeans

[Glenn Holmer]

On 3/4/19 9:43 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 3:29 PM Glenn Holmer  
> wrote:
>>
>> This voting thread is to confirm Geertjan Wielenga as the first PMC
>> chair of NetBeans as we leave incubation...
> 
> I was initially surprised to see this appear out of the blue but there
> was a prior discussion here a few days ago indeed [1].

Yes, the question was whether it would be unseemly to have an Oracle
employee as PMC chair. I think there's clear agreement that that's not
the case.

> In that thread both Glenn and Geertjan were nominated and I understand
> Glenn's +1 for Geertjan in this thread as him agreeing to step down
> for now.

Yes, that's correct.

> (sorry if this sounds pedantic, I just wanted to avoid the impression
> that people can just be proposed without a prior "democratic debate"
> ;-)

And speaking of pedantism :) how long should a vote like this stay open?
It's my first time proposing a vote. Is it 72 hours? Then what happens,
must we notify mentors somehow, or is posting of the vote results
enough? Should I make a voting results post with count of the votes (and
must only IPMC votes be counted, or all of them)?

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Re: [VOTE] PMC chair for Apache NetBeans

[Bertrand Delacretaz]

Hi,

On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 3:29 PM Glenn Holmer  wrote:
>
> This voting thread is to confirm Geertjan Wielenga as the first PMC
> chair of NetBeans as we leave incubation...

I was initially surprised to see this appear out of the blue but there
was a prior discussion here a few days ago indeed [1].

In that thread both Glenn and Geertjan were nominated and I understand
Glenn's +1 for Geertjan in this thread as him agreeing to step down
for now.

(sorry if this sounds pedantic, I just wanted to avoid the impression
that people can just be proposed without a prior "democratic debate"
;-)

So here's my +1 for Geertjan, I think your great understanding of
Apache principles makes you very well qualified!

-Bertrand

[1] 
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/4d47458b5155ab2f6c189e6fda1321fa2348dea6c914e2d3dd1dcfa0@%3Cdev.netbeans.apache.org%3E

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Re: [VOTE] PMC chair for Apache NetBeans

[Ralph Benjamin Ruijs]

+1

- Ralph

> Op 4 mrt. 2019 om 02:30 heeft constantin drabo  het 
> volgende geschreven:
> 
> +1
> 
> ?? La Terre est le berceau de l'humanit??, mais on ne passe pas sa vie 
> enti??re dans un berceau. ??
> - ConstantinE. Tsiolkovski , p??re de l'astronautique?? et de 
> l'a??rospatiale modernes.
> 
> De : Glenn Holmer 
> Envoyé : vendredi 1 mars 2019 02:28
> À : dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> Objet : [VOTE] PMC chair for Apache NetBeans
> 
> This voting thread is to confirm Geertjan Wielenga as the first PMC
> chair of NetBeans as we leave incubation and begin our journey as a
> top-level Apache project. As an Oracle employee, Geertjan has been in a
> unique position to help guide the project to independence and is the
> best choice to complete that process.
> 
> As a reminder, here are the duties of the PMC chair:
> 
> http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#chair
> 
> Please indicate your vote with +1, 0, or -1.
> 
> --
> Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682)
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RE: [VOTE] PMC chair for Apache NetBeans

[constantin drabo]

+1

?? La Terre est le berceau de l'humanit??, mais on ne passe pas sa vie enti??re 
dans un berceau. ??
- ConstantinE. Tsiolkovski , p??re de l'astronautique?? et de 
l'a??rospatiale modernes.

De : Glenn Holmer 
Envoyé : vendredi 1 mars 2019 02:28
À : dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Objet : [VOTE] PMC chair for Apache NetBeans

This voting thread is to confirm Geertjan Wielenga as the first PMC
chair of NetBeans as we leave incubation and begin our journey as a
top-level Apache project. As an Oracle employee, Geertjan has been in a
unique position to help guide the project to independence and is the
best choice to complete that process.

As a reminder, here are the duties of the PMC chair:

http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#chair

Please indicate your vote with +1, 0, or -1.

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Re: [VOTE] PMC chair for Apache NetBeans

[John McDonnell]

+1

On Sat, 2 Mar 2019 at 12:37, Zoran Sevarac  wrote:

> +1
>
> On Sat, Mar 2, 2019 at 5:11 AM Gaurav Gupta 
> wrote:
>
> > +1
> >
> > On Sat, 2 Mar 2019 at 9:14 AM, Tushar Joshi 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > +1
> > >
> > > (Most appropriate for Geertjan to be the first PMC Chair)
> > >
> > > with regards
> > > Tushar
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 7:59 PM Glenn Holmer  >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > This voting thread is to confirm Geertjan Wielenga as the first PMC
> > > > chair of NetBeans as we leave incubation and begin our journey as a
> > > > top-level Apache project. As an Oracle employee, Geertjan has been
> in a
> > > > unique position to help guide the project to independence and is the
> > > > best choice to complete that process.
> > > >
> > > > As a reminder, here are the duties of the PMC chair:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#chair
> > > >
> > > > Please indicate your vote with +1, 0, or -1.
> > > >
> > > > --
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> > > > "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe."
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> > Gaurav Gupta
> >   
> > 
> >
>
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Re: [VOTE] PMC chair for Apache NetBeans

[Zoran Sevarac]

+1

On Sat, Mar 2, 2019 at 5:11 AM Gaurav Gupta 
wrote:

> +1
>
> On Sat, 2 Mar 2019 at 9:14 AM, Tushar Joshi 
> wrote:
>
> > +1
> >
> > (Most appropriate for Geertjan to be the first PMC Chair)
> >
> > with regards
> > Tushar
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 7:59 PM Glenn Holmer 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > This voting thread is to confirm Geertjan Wielenga as the first PMC
> > > chair of NetBeans as we leave incubation and begin our journey as a
> > > top-level Apache project. As an Oracle employee, Geertjan has been in a
> > > unique position to help guide the project to independence and is the
> > > best choice to complete that process.
> > >
> > > As a reminder, here are the duties of the PMC chair:
> > >
> > > http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#chair
> > >
> > > Please indicate your vote with +1, 0, or -1.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682)
> > > "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe."
> > >
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>   
> 
>


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Re: PMC chair for Apache NetBeans

[Geertjan Wielenga]

Absolutely and it would be an honor.

Gj

On Sat, Mar 2, 2019 at 10:35 AM Antonio  wrote:

> Some comments inlined below
>
> El 27/02/2019 a las 9:08, Geertjan Wielenga escribió:
> > One concern I have with me being PPMC chair is some future article by
> > someone ending with “...and with an Oracle product manager chairing
> Apache
> > NetBeans, Oracle is still in control of the project”. Of course, if I am
>
> That hypothetic "someone" will then show little knowledge about how the
> ASF works (we vote here!), and about what Geertjan has been doing for
> NetBeans during the last 10-15 years?
>
> > not the PPMC chair, that same article will end with “...and with a
> > non-Oracle contributor as PPMC chair, Oracle has now truly dumped
> NetBeans”.
> >
> > So, maybe we shouldn’t focus on this concern.
>
> I think we should focus on your willingness to be a PMC chair instead.
>
> You've been pushing the project for a long time now, and I think we all
> will understand you may be wanting to step down and take a rest for a
> while. :-)
>
> If you feel you have the strength to keep on bearing with us for some
> more time then I think we all will be honored if you keep on pushing the
> project forward.
>
> Thank you, Geerjan,
> Antonio
>
> >
> >  From my perspective, I am not opposed to Kevin’s succession plan — me as
> > chair, with me liaising with Glenn Holmer and preparing him to take over.
> > Of course, this would need to be voted on, one vote thread for me now,
> and
> > in a year from now a new thread for Glenn.
> >
> > Anyway, these are my personal thoughts and anyone is free to disagree or
> > simply start a vote thread, so that this part of our graduation to top
> > level project can be completed.
> >
> > Gj
> >
> >
> > On Friday, February 1, 2019, Eric Barboni  wrote:
> >
> >> As Geertjan says "preferably NOT me" we should then propose Glenn.
> >>
> >> There is no time limit for a chair term it can be more than 1 year.
> >> If PMC or PMC chair wants changes, PMC will discuss (maybe vote) for a
> new
> >> name, it should be anticipated before a board monthly meeting. (board
> will
> >> accept or reject).
> >>
> >> Eric
> >>
> >> -Message d'origine-
> >> De : Josh Juneau 
> >> Envoyé : jeudi 31 janvier 2019 23:09
> >> À : dev 
> >> Objet : Re: PMC chair for Apache NetBeans
> >>
> >> +1 to Geertjan AND also +1 for Glenn Holmer.  Both would be excellent
> >> candidates.  I like Kevin's succession plan idea with respect to
> Geertjan
> >> being the first chair for year one.
> >>
> >> Josh Juneau
> >> juneau...@gmail.com
> >> http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com
> >> https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 3:53 PM Glenn Holmer  >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 1/31/19 12:05 PM, Emilian Bold wrote:
> >>>> I believe Glenn Holmer would be a good first Chair.
> >>>
> >>> I would be willing to serve in this capacity. A good description of
> >>> the responsibilities can be found here:
> >>>
> >>> http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#chair
> >>>
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> >>> came the aftermath -- and Cenbe."
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Re: PMC chair for Apache NetBeans

[Antonio]

Some comments inlined below

El 27/02/2019 a las 9:08, Geertjan Wielenga escribió:

One concern I have with me being PPMC chair is some future article by
someone ending with “...and with an Oracle product manager chairing Apache
NetBeans, Oracle is still in control of the project”. Of course, if I am


That hypothetic "someone" will then show little knowledge about how the 
ASF works (we vote here!), and about what Geertjan has been doing for 
NetBeans during the last 10-15 years?



not the PPMC chair, that same article will end with “...and with a
non-Oracle contributor as PPMC chair, Oracle has now truly dumped NetBeans”.

So, maybe we shouldn’t focus on this concern.


I think we should focus on your willingness to be a PMC chair instead.

You've been pushing the project for a long time now, and I think we all 
will understand you may be wanting to step down and take a rest for a 
while. :-)


If you feel you have the strength to keep on bearing with us for some 
more time then I think we all will be honored if you keep on pushing the 
project forward.


Thank you, Geerjan,
Antonio



 From my perspective, I am not opposed to Kevin’s succession plan — me as
chair, with me liaising with Glenn Holmer and preparing him to take over.
Of course, this would need to be voted on, one vote thread for me now, and
in a year from now a new thread for Glenn.

Anyway, these are my personal thoughts and anyone is free to disagree or
simply start a vote thread, so that this part of our graduation to top
level project can be completed.

Gj


On Friday, February 1, 2019, Eric Barboni  wrote:


As Geertjan says "preferably NOT me" we should then propose Glenn.

There is no time limit for a chair term it can be more than 1 year.
If PMC or PMC chair wants changes, PMC will discuss (maybe vote) for a new
name, it should be anticipated before a board monthly meeting. (board will
accept or reject).

Eric

-Message d'origine-
De : Josh Juneau 
Envoyé : jeudi 31 janvier 2019 23:09
À : dev 
Objet : Re: PMC chair for Apache NetBeans

+1 to Geertjan AND also +1 for Glenn Holmer.  Both would be excellent
candidates.  I like Kevin's succession plan idea with respect to Geertjan
being the first chair for year one.

Josh Juneau
juneau...@gmail.com
http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com
https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866



On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 3:53 PM Glenn Holmer 
wrote:


On 1/31/19 12:05 PM, Emilian Bold wrote:

I believe Glenn Holmer would be a good first Chair.


I would be willing to serve in this capacity. A good description of
the responsibilities can be found here:

http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#chair

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Re: [VOTE] PMC chair for Apache NetBeans

[Gaurav Gupta]

+1

On Sat, 2 Mar 2019 at 9:14 AM, Tushar Joshi  wrote:

> +1
>
> (Most appropriate for Geertjan to be the first PMC Chair)
>
> with regards
> Tushar
>
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 7:59 PM Glenn Holmer 
> wrote:
>
> > This voting thread is to confirm Geertjan Wielenga as the first PMC
> > chair of NetBeans as we leave incubation and begin our journey as a
> > top-level Apache project. As an Oracle employee, Geertjan has been in a
> > unique position to help guide the project to independence and is the
> > best choice to complete that process.
> >
> > As a reminder, here are the duties of the PMC chair:
> >
> > http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#chair
> >
> > Please indicate your vote with +1, 0, or -1.
> >
> > --
> > Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682)
> > "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe."
> >
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> >
> >
> >
>
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Re: [VOTE] PMC chair for Apache NetBeans

[Tushar Joshi]

+1

(Most appropriate for Geertjan to be the first PMC Chair)

with regards
Tushar



On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 7:59 PM Glenn Holmer 
wrote:

> This voting thread is to confirm Geertjan Wielenga as the first PMC
> chair of NetBeans as we leave incubation and begin our journey as a
> top-level Apache project. As an Oracle employee, Geertjan has been in a
> unique position to help guide the project to independence and is the
> best choice to complete that process.
>
> As a reminder, here are the duties of the PMC chair:
>
> http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#chair
>
> Please indicate your vote with +1, 0, or -1.
>
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RE: [VOTE] PMC chair for Apache NetBeans

[Eric Barboni]

+1

Eric
-Message d'origine-
De : Sven Reimers  
Envoyé : vendredi 1 mars 2019 22:45
À : dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Objet : Re: [VOTE] PMC chair for Apache NetBeans

+1

Matthias Bläsing  schrieb am Fr., 1. März 2019,
22:05:

> +1
>
> Am Freitag, den 01.03.2019, 08:28 -0600 schrieb Glenn Holmer:
> > This voting thread is to confirm Geertjan Wielenga as the first PMC 
> > chair of NetBeans as we leave incubation and begin our journey as a 
> > top-level Apache project. As an Oracle employee, Geertjan has been 
> > in a unique position to help guide the project to independence and 
> > is the best choice to complete that process.
> >
> > As a reminder, here are the duties of the PMC chair:
> >
> > http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#chair
> >
> > Please indicate your vote with +1, 0, or -1.
> >
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Re: [VOTE] PMC chair for Apache NetBeans

[Gail Anderson]

+1


> On Mar 1, 2019, at 6:28 AM, Glenn Holmer  wrote:
> 
> This voting thread is to confirm Geertjan Wielenga as the first PMC
> chair of NetBeans as we leave incubation and begin our journey as a
> top-level Apache project. As an Oracle employee, Geertjan has been in a
> unique position to help guide the project to independence and is the
> best choice to complete that process.
> 
> As a reminder, here are the duties of the PMC chair:
> 
> http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#chair
> 
> Please indicate your vote with +1, 0, or -1.
> 
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Re: [VOTE] PMC chair for Apache NetBeans

[Sven Reimers]

+1

Matthias Bläsing  schrieb am Fr., 1. März 2019,
22:05:

> +1
>
> Am Freitag, den 01.03.2019, 08:28 -0600 schrieb Glenn Holmer:
> > This voting thread is to confirm Geertjan Wielenga as the first PMC
> > chair of NetBeans as we leave incubation and begin our journey as a
> > top-level Apache project. As an Oracle employee, Geertjan has been in
> > a
> > unique position to help guide the project to independence and is the
> > best choice to complete that process.
> >
> > As a reminder, here are the duties of the PMC chair:
> >
> > http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#chair
> >
> > Please indicate your vote with +1, 0, or -1.
> >
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Re: [VOTE] PMC chair for Apache NetBeans

[Matthias Bläsing]

+1

Am Freitag, den 01.03.2019, 08:28 -0600 schrieb Glenn Holmer:
> This voting thread is to confirm Geertjan Wielenga as the first PMC
> chair of NetBeans as we leave incubation and begin our journey as a
> top-level Apache project. As an Oracle employee, Geertjan has been in
> a
> unique position to help guide the project to independence and is the
> best choice to complete that process.
> 
> As a reminder, here are the duties of the PMC chair:
> 
> http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#chair
> 
> Please indicate your vote with +1, 0, or -1.
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Re: [VOTE] PMC chair for Apache NetBeans

[Josh Juneau]

+1


Josh Juneau
http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com
https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866


> On Mar 1, 2019, at 8:28 AM, Glenn Holmer  wrote:
> 
> This voting thread is to confirm Geertjan Wielenga as the first PMC
> chair of NetBeans as we leave incubation and begin our journey as a
> top-level Apache project. As an Oracle employee, Geertjan has been in a
> unique position to help guide the project to independence and is the
> best choice to complete that process.
> 
> As a reminder, here are the duties of the PMC chair:
> 
> http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#chair
> 
> Please indicate your vote with +1, 0, or -1.
> 
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Re: [VOTE] PMC chair for Apache NetBeans

[Gilberto]

+1

On 2019/03/01 14:28:52, Glenn Holmer  wrote: 
> This voting thread is to confirm Geertjan Wielenga as the first PMC
> chair of NetBeans as we leave incubation and begin our journey as a
> top-level Apache project. As an Oracle employee, Geertjan has been in a
> unique position to help guide the project to independence and is the
> best choice to complete that process.
> 
> As a reminder, here are the duties of the PMC chair:
> 
> http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#chair
> 
> Please indicate your vote with +1, 0, or -1.
> 
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Re: [VOTE] PMC chair for Apache NetBeans

[Antonio]

+1

El 01/03/2019 a las 15:39, Glenn Holmer escribió:

On 3/1/19 8:28 AM, Glenn Holmer wrote:

This voting thread is to confirm Geertjan Wielenga as the first PMC
chair of NetBeans as we leave incubation and begin our journey as a
top-level Apache project. As an Oracle employee, Geertjan has been in a
unique position to help guide the project to independence and is the
best choice to complete that process.

As a reminder, here are the duties of the PMC chair:

http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#chair

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Re: [VOTE] PMC chair for Apache NetBeans

[Michael Nascimento]

+1

Regards,
Michael

On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 11:29 AM Glenn Holmer 
wrote:

> This voting thread is to confirm Geertjan Wielenga as the first PMC
> chair of NetBeans as we leave incubation and begin our journey as a
> top-level Apache project. As an Oracle employee, Geertjan has been in a
> unique position to help guide the project to independence and is the
> best choice to complete that process.
>
> As a reminder, here are the duties of the PMC chair:
>
> http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#chair
>
> Please indicate your vote with +1, 0, or -1.
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RE: [VOTE] PMC chair for Apache NetBeans

[Kenneth Fogel]

+1

-Original Message-
From: Glenn Holmer  
Sent: March 1, 2019 9:29 AM
To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Subject: [VOTE] PMC chair for Apache NetBeans

This voting thread is to confirm Geertjan Wielenga as the first PMC chair of 
NetBeans as we leave incubation and begin our journey as a top-level Apache 
project. As an Oracle employee, Geertjan has been in a unique position to help 
guide the project to independence and is the best choice to complete that 
process.

As a reminder, here are the duties of the PMC chair:

http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#chair

Please indicate your vote with +1, 0, or -1.

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Re: [VOTE] PMC chair for Apache NetBeans

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On Fri, Mar 1, 2019, 2:00 PM Laszlo Kishalmi  +1
>
> On 3/1/19 6:28 AM, Glenn Holmer wrote:
> > This voting thread is to confirm Geertjan Wielenga as the first PMC
> > chair of NetBeans as we leave incubation and begin our journey as a
> > top-level Apache project. As an Oracle employee, Geertjan has been in a
> > unique position to help guide the project to independence and is the
> > best choice to complete that process.
> >
> > As a reminder, here are the duties of the PMC chair:
> >
> > http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#chair
> >
> > Please indicate your vote with +1, 0, or -1.
> >
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Re: [VOTE] PMC chair for Apache NetBeans

[Laszlo Kishalmi]

+1

On 3/1/19 6:28 AM, Glenn Holmer wrote:

This voting thread is to confirm Geertjan Wielenga as the first PMC
chair of NetBeans as we leave incubation and begin our journey as a
top-level Apache project. As an Oracle employee, Geertjan has been in a
unique position to help guide the project to independence and is the
best choice to complete that process.

As a reminder, here are the duties of the PMC chair:

http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#chair

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Re: [VOTE] PMC chair for Apache NetBeans

[Thilina Ranathunga]

+1

Regards,
Thilina Ranathunga

On Fri, Mar 1, 2019, 7:59 PM Glenn Holmer 
wrote:

> This voting thread is to confirm Geertjan Wielenga as the first PMC
> chair of NetBeans as we leave incubation and begin our journey as a
> top-level Apache project. As an Oracle employee, Geertjan has been in a
> unique position to help guide the project to independence and is the
> best choice to complete that process.
>
> As a reminder, here are the duties of the PMC chair:
>
> http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#chair
>
> Please indicate your vote with +1, 0, or -1.
>
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Re: [VOTE] PMC chair for Apache NetBeans

[Andreas Ernst]

+1

Am 01.03.19 um 15:28 schrieb Glenn Holmer:

This voting thread is to confirm Geertjan Wielenga as the first PMC
chair of NetBeans as we leave incubation and begin our journey as a
top-level Apache project. As an Oracle employee, Geertjan has been in a
unique position to help guide the project to independence and is the
best choice to complete that process.

As a reminder, here are the duties of the PMC chair:

http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#chair

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RE: [VOTE] PMC chair for Apache NetBeans

[Eirik Bakke]

+1

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-Original Message-
From: Glenn Holmer  
Sent: Friday, March 1, 2019 9:29 AM
To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Subject: [VOTE] PMC chair for Apache NetBeans

This voting thread is to confirm Geertjan Wielenga as the first PMC chair of 
NetBeans as we leave incubation and begin our journey as a top-level Apache 
project. As an Oracle employee, Geertjan has been in a unique position to help 
guide the project to independence and is the best choice to complete that 
process.

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http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#chair

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Re: [VOTE] PMC chair for Apache NetBeans

[Steven Ingram]

+1

On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 09:29 Glenn Holmer 
wrote:

> This voting thread is to confirm Geertjan Wielenga as the first PMC
> chair of NetBeans as we leave incubation and begin our journey as a
> top-level Apache project. As an Oracle employee, Geertjan has been in a
> unique position to help guide the project to independence and is the
> best choice to complete that process.
>
> As a reminder, here are the duties of the PMC chair:
>
> http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#chair
>
> Please indicate your vote with +1, 0, or -1.
>
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Re: [VOTE] PMC chair for Apache NetBeans

[Patrik Karlström]

+1

Re: [VOTE] PMC chair for Apache NetBeans

[Sarvesh Kesharwani]

+1

Thanks,
Sarvesh

On 3/1/2019 7:58 PM, Glenn Holmer wrote:

This voting thread is to confirm Geertjan Wielenga as the first PMC
chair of NetBeans as we leave incubation and begin our journey as a
top-level Apache project. As an Oracle employee, Geertjan has been in a
unique position to help guide the project to independence and is the
best choice to complete that process.

As a reminder, here are the duties of the PMC chair:

https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.apache.org_dev_pmc.html-23chair&d=DwICaQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=LPkzDRkae1ck5T1FOexha8uL94Q3GN8Y_0gtNzRyCcw&m=GXp_OOQcg8ao17S1LKaIhQCHaqEfUHfAKCIi42O7vc0&s=1Ywqu6sbOcBZqz-3OJJ9_IWALmoPghXMjE6khj9_dp8&e=

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Re: [VOTE] PMC chair for Apache NetBeans

[David Green]

On 1 Mar 2019, at 8:28, Glenn Holmer wrote:

> This voting thread is to confirm Geertjan Wielenga as the first PMC
> chair of NetBeans as we leave incubation and begin our journey as a
> top-level Apache project. As an Oracle employee, Geertjan has been in a
> unique position to help guide the project to independence and is the
> best choice to complete that process.
>
> As a reminder, here are the duties of the PMC chair:
>
> http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#chair
>
> Please indicate your vote with +1, 0, or -1.

+1

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Re: [VOTE] PMC chair for Apache NetBeans

[Jens Hofschröer]

Am 01.03.2019 um 15:28 schrieb Glenn Holmer:

This voting thread is to confirm Geertjan Wielenga as the first PMC
chair of NetBeans as we leave incubation and begin our journey as a
top-level Apache project. As an Oracle employee, Geertjan has been in a
unique position to help guide the project to independence and is the
best choice to complete that process.

As a reminder, here are the duties of the PMC chair:

http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#chair

Please indicate your vote with +1, 0, or -1.



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Re: [VOTE] PMC chair for Apache NetBeans

[Pete Whelpton]

+1

On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 2:53 PM Kodewerk  wrote:

> +1
>
>
> > On Mar 1, 2019, at 6:44 AM, Chuck Davis  wrote:
> >
> > +1
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 6:41 AM Mr_Krava 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> +1
> >>
> >>On Saturday, 2 March 2019, 1:29:07 am AEDT, Glenn Holmer
> >>  wrote:
> >>
> >> This voting thread is to confirm Geertjan Wielenga as the first PMC
> >> chair of NetBeans as we leave incubation and begin our journey as a
> >> top-level Apache project. As an Oracle employee, Geertjan has been in a
> >> unique position to help guide the project to independence and is the
> >> best choice to complete that process.
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
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RE: [VOTE] PMC chair for Apache NetBeans

[Eduardo Quintanilla]

+1

Eduardo Quintanilla
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-Original Message-
From: Kodewerk  
Sent: viernes, 1 de marzo de 2019 8:53 a. m.
To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: [VOTE] PMC chair for Apache NetBeans

+1


> On Mar 1, 2019, at 6:44 AM, Chuck Davis  wrote:
> 
> +1
> 
> On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 6:41 AM Mr_Krava 
> wrote:
> 
>> +1
>> 
>>On Saturday, 2 March 2019, 1:29:07 am AEDT, Glenn Holmer
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> This voting thread is to confirm Geertjan Wielenga as the first PMC
>> chair of NetBeans as we leave incubation and begin our journey as a
>> top-level Apache project. As an Oracle employee, Geertjan has been in a
>> unique position to help guide the project to independence and is the
>> best choice to complete that process.
>> 
>> 
>> 


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Re: [VOTE] PMC chair for Apache NetBeans

[Kodewerk]

+1


> On Mar 1, 2019, at 6:44 AM, Chuck Davis  wrote:
> 
> +1
> 
> On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 6:41 AM Mr_Krava 
> wrote:
> 
>> +1
>> 
>>On Saturday, 2 March 2019, 1:29:07 am AEDT, Glenn Holmer
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> This voting thread is to confirm Geertjan Wielenga as the first PMC
>> chair of NetBeans as we leave incubation and begin our journey as a
>> top-level Apache project. As an Oracle employee, Geertjan has been in a
>> unique position to help guide the project to independence and is the
>> best choice to complete that process.
>> 
>> 
>> 


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Re: [VOTE] PMC chair for Apache NetBeans

[Chuck Davis]

+1

On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 6:41 AM Mr_Krava 
wrote:

>  +1
>
> On Saturday, 2 March 2019, 1:29:07 am AEDT, Glenn Holmer
>  wrote:
>
>  This voting thread is to confirm Geertjan Wielenga as the first PMC
> chair of NetBeans as we leave incubation and begin our journey as a
> top-level Apache project. As an Oracle employee, Geertjan has been in a
> unique position to help guide the project to independence and is the
> best choice to complete that process.
>
>
>

Re: [VOTE] PMC chair for Apache NetBeans

[Mr_Krava]

 +1

On Saturday, 2 March 2019, 1:29:07 am AEDT, Glenn Holmer 
 wrote:  
 
 This voting thread is to confirm Geertjan Wielenga as the first PMC
chair of NetBeans as we leave incubation and begin our journey as a
top-level Apache project. As an Oracle employee, Geertjan has been in a
unique position to help guide the project to independence and is the
best choice to complete that process.

As a reminder, here are the duties of the PMC chair:

http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#chair

Please indicate your vote with +1, 0, or -1.

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Re: [VOTE] PMC chair for Apache NetBeans

[Glenn Holmer]

On 3/1/19 8:28 AM, Glenn Holmer wrote:
> This voting thread is to confirm Geertjan Wielenga as the first PMC
> chair of NetBeans as we leave incubation and begin our journey as a
> top-level Apache project. As an Oracle employee, Geertjan has been in a
> unique position to help guide the project to independence and is the
> best choice to complete that process.
> 
> As a reminder, here are the duties of the PMC chair:
> 
> http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#chair
> 
> Please indicate your vote with +1, 0, or -1.

+1

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[VOTE] PMC chair for Apache NetBeans

[Glenn Holmer]

This voting thread is to confirm Geertjan Wielenga as the first PMC
chair of NetBeans as we leave incubation and begin our journey as a
top-level Apache project. As an Oracle employee, Geertjan has been in a
unique position to help guide the project to independence and is the
best choice to complete that process.

As a reminder, here are the duties of the PMC chair:

http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#chair

Please indicate your vote with +1, 0, or -1.

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RE: PMC chair for Apache NetBeans

[constantin drabo]

Yup, the process requires to open an official voting thread  🙂
Constantin
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l'a??rospatiale modernes.

De : Geertjan Wielenga 
Envoyé : mardi 26 février 2019 22:22
À : dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Objet : Re: PMC chair for Apache NetBeans

This is not a voting thread. Do not vote here please. Start an official
voting thread for the candidate of your choice.

Gj

On Wednesday, February 27, 2019, Tushar Joshi 
wrote:

> +1 for Glenn Holmer
>
> with regards
> Tushar
>
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>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 1:39 PM Geertjan Wielenga
>  wrote:
>
> > PS: everywhere I said PPMC, I should have said PMC.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wednesday, February 27, 2019, Geertjan Wielenga <
> > geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > One concern I have with me being PPMC chair is some future article by
> > > someone ending with “...and with an Oracle product manager chairing
> > Apache
> > > NetBeans, Oracle is still in control of the project”. Of course, if I
> am
> > > not the PPMC chair, that same article will end with “...and with a
> > > non-Oracle contributor as PPMC chair, Oracle has now truly dumped
> > NetBeans”.
> > >
> > > So, maybe we shouldn’t focus on this concern.
> > >
> > > From my perspective, I am not opposed to Kevin’s succession plan — me
> as
> > > chair, with me liaising with Glenn Holmer and preparing him to take
> over.
> > > Of course, this would need to be voted on, one vote thread for me now,
> > and
> > > in a year from now a new thread for Glenn.
> > >
> > > Anyway, these are my personal thoughts and anyone is free to disagree
> or
> > > simply start a vote thread, so that this part of our graduation to top
> > > level project can be completed.
> > >
> > > Gj
> > >
> > >
> > > On Friday, February 1, 2019, Eric Barboni  wrote:
> > >
> > >> As Geertjan says "preferably NOT me" we should then propose Glenn.
> > >>
> > >> There is no time limit for a chair term it can be more than 1 year.
> > >> If PMC or PMC chair wants changes, PMC will discuss (maybe vote) for a
> > >> new name, it should be anticipated before a board monthly meeting.
> > (board
> > >> will accept or reject).
> > >>
> > >> Eric
> > >>
> > >> -Message d'origine-
> > >> De : Josh Juneau 
> > >> Envoyé : jeudi 31 janvier 2019 23:09
> > >> À : dev 
> > >> Objet : Re: PMC chair for Apache NetBeans
> > >>
> > >> +1 to Geertjan AND also +1 for Glenn Holmer.  Both would be excellent
> > >> candidates.  I like Kevin's succession plan idea with respect to
> > Geertjan
> > >> being the first chair for year one.
> > >>
> > >> Josh Juneau
> > >> juneau...@gmail.com
> > >> http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com
> > >> https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 3:53 PM Glenn Holmer
>  > >
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > On 1/31/19 12:05 PM, Emilian Bold wrote:
> > >> > > I believe Glenn Holmer would be a good first Chair.
> > >> >
> > >> > I would be willing to serve in this capacity. A good description of
> > >> > the responsibilities can be found here:
> > >> >
> > >> > http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#chair
> > >> >
> > >> > --
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> season
> > >> > came the aftermath -- and Cenbe."
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Re: PMC chair for Apache NetBeans

[Geertjan Wielenga]

This is not a voting thread. Do not vote here please. Start an official
voting thread for the candidate of your choice.

Gj

On Wednesday, February 27, 2019, Tushar Joshi 
wrote:

> +1 for Glenn Holmer
>
> with regards
> Tushar
>
> Tushar Joshi, Nagpur: http://www.tusharjoshi.com
>
> * MCSD_NET C#, SCJP, RHCE, ZCE, PMP, CSM, SAFe, PRINCE2
>
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>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 1:39 PM Geertjan Wielenga
>  wrote:
>
> > PS: everywhere I said PPMC, I should have said PMC.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wednesday, February 27, 2019, Geertjan Wielenga <
> > geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > One concern I have with me being PPMC chair is some future article by
> > > someone ending with “...and with an Oracle product manager chairing
> > Apache
> > > NetBeans, Oracle is still in control of the project”. Of course, if I
> am
> > > not the PPMC chair, that same article will end with “...and with a
> > > non-Oracle contributor as PPMC chair, Oracle has now truly dumped
> > NetBeans”.
> > >
> > > So, maybe we shouldn’t focus on this concern.
> > >
> > > From my perspective, I am not opposed to Kevin’s succession plan — me
> as
> > > chair, with me liaising with Glenn Holmer and preparing him to take
> over.
> > > Of course, this would need to be voted on, one vote thread for me now,
> > and
> > > in a year from now a new thread for Glenn.
> > >
> > > Anyway, these are my personal thoughts and anyone is free to disagree
> or
> > > simply start a vote thread, so that this part of our graduation to top
> > > level project can be completed.
> > >
> > > Gj
> > >
> > >
> > > On Friday, February 1, 2019, Eric Barboni  wrote:
> > >
> > >> As Geertjan says "preferably NOT me" we should then propose Glenn.
> > >>
> > >> There is no time limit for a chair term it can be more than 1 year.
> > >> If PMC or PMC chair wants changes, PMC will discuss (maybe vote) for a
> > >> new name, it should be anticipated before a board monthly meeting.
> > (board
> > >> will accept or reject).
> > >>
> > >> Eric
> > >>
> > >> -Message d'origine-
> > >> De : Josh Juneau 
> > >> Envoyé : jeudi 31 janvier 2019 23:09
> > >> À : dev 
> > >> Objet : Re: PMC chair for Apache NetBeans
> > >>
> > >> +1 to Geertjan AND also +1 for Glenn Holmer.  Both would be excellent
> > >> candidates.  I like Kevin's succession plan idea with respect to
> > Geertjan
> > >> being the first chair for year one.
> > >>
> > >> Josh Juneau
> > >> juneau...@gmail.com
> > >> http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com
> > >> https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 3:53 PM Glenn Holmer
>  > >
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > On 1/31/19 12:05 PM, Emilian Bold wrote:
> > >> > > I believe Glenn Holmer would be a good first Chair.
> > >> >
> > >> > I would be willing to serve in this capacity. A good description of
> > >> > the responsibilities can be found here:
> > >> >
> > >> > http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#chair
> > >> >
> > >> > --
> > >> > Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage
> season
> > >> > came the aftermath -- and Cenbe."
> > >> >
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Re: PMC chair for Apache NetBeans

[Tushar Joshi]

+1 for Glenn Holmer

with regards
Tushar

Tushar Joshi, Nagpur: http://www.tusharjoshi.com

* MCSD_NET C#, SCJP, RHCE, ZCE, PMP, CSM, SAFe, PRINCE2

* Senior Architect @ Persistent Systems http://www.persistent.com
* LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/tusharvjoshi



On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 1:39 PM Geertjan Wielenga
 wrote:

> PS: everywhere I said PPMC, I should have said PMC.
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, February 27, 2019, Geertjan Wielenga <
> geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> > One concern I have with me being PPMC chair is some future article by
> > someone ending with “...and with an Oracle product manager chairing
> Apache
> > NetBeans, Oracle is still in control of the project”. Of course, if I am
> > not the PPMC chair, that same article will end with “...and with a
> > non-Oracle contributor as PPMC chair, Oracle has now truly dumped
> NetBeans”.
> >
> > So, maybe we shouldn’t focus on this concern.
> >
> > From my perspective, I am not opposed to Kevin’s succession plan — me as
> > chair, with me liaising with Glenn Holmer and preparing him to take over.
> > Of course, this would need to be voted on, one vote thread for me now,
> and
> > in a year from now a new thread for Glenn.
> >
> > Anyway, these are my personal thoughts and anyone is free to disagree or
> > simply start a vote thread, so that this part of our graduation to top
> > level project can be completed.
> >
> > Gj
> >
> >
> > On Friday, February 1, 2019, Eric Barboni  wrote:
> >
> >> As Geertjan says "preferably NOT me" we should then propose Glenn.
> >>
> >> There is no time limit for a chair term it can be more than 1 year.
> >> If PMC or PMC chair wants changes, PMC will discuss (maybe vote) for a
> >> new name, it should be anticipated before a board monthly meeting.
> (board
> >> will accept or reject).
> >>
> >> Eric
> >>
> >> -Message d'origine-
> >> De : Josh Juneau 
> >> Envoyé : jeudi 31 janvier 2019 23:09
> >> À : dev 
> >> Objet : Re: PMC chair for Apache NetBeans
> >>
> >> +1 to Geertjan AND also +1 for Glenn Holmer.  Both would be excellent
> >> candidates.  I like Kevin's succession plan idea with respect to
> Geertjan
> >> being the first chair for year one.
> >>
> >> Josh Juneau
> >> juneau...@gmail.com
> >> http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com
> >> https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 3:53 PM Glenn Holmer  >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > On 1/31/19 12:05 PM, Emilian Bold wrote:
> >> > > I believe Glenn Holmer would be a good first Chair.
> >> >
> >> > I would be willing to serve in this capacity. A good description of
> >> > the responsibilities can be found here:
> >> >
> >> > http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#chair
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season
> >> > came the aftermath -- and Cenbe."
> >> >
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Re: PMC chair for Apache NetBeans

[Geertjan Wielenga]

PS: everywhere I said PPMC, I should have said PMC.



On Wednesday, February 27, 2019, Geertjan Wielenga <
geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote:

> One concern I have with me being PPMC chair is some future article by
> someone ending with “...and with an Oracle product manager chairing Apache
> NetBeans, Oracle is still in control of the project”. Of course, if I am
> not the PPMC chair, that same article will end with “...and with a
> non-Oracle contributor as PPMC chair, Oracle has now truly dumped NetBeans”.
>
> So, maybe we shouldn’t focus on this concern.
>
> From my perspective, I am not opposed to Kevin’s succession plan — me as
> chair, with me liaising with Glenn Holmer and preparing him to take over.
> Of course, this would need to be voted on, one vote thread for me now, and
> in a year from now a new thread for Glenn.
>
> Anyway, these are my personal thoughts and anyone is free to disagree or
> simply start a vote thread, so that this part of our graduation to top
> level project can be completed.
>
> Gj
>
>
> On Friday, February 1, 2019, Eric Barboni  wrote:
>
>> As Geertjan says "preferably NOT me" we should then propose Glenn.
>>
>> There is no time limit for a chair term it can be more than 1 year.
>> If PMC or PMC chair wants changes, PMC will discuss (maybe vote) for a
>> new name, it should be anticipated before a board monthly meeting. (board
>> will accept or reject).
>>
>> Eric
>>
>> -----Message d'origine-
>> De : Josh Juneau 
>> Envoyé : jeudi 31 janvier 2019 23:09
>> À : dev 
>> Objet : Re: PMC chair for Apache NetBeans
>>
>> +1 to Geertjan AND also +1 for Glenn Holmer.  Both would be excellent
>> candidates.  I like Kevin's succession plan idea with respect to Geertjan
>> being the first chair for year one.
>>
>> Josh Juneau
>> juneau...@gmail.com
>> http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com
>> https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 3:53 PM Glenn Holmer 
>> wrote:
>>
>> > On 1/31/19 12:05 PM, Emilian Bold wrote:
>> > > I believe Glenn Holmer would be a good first Chair.
>> >
>> > I would be willing to serve in this capacity. A good description of
>> > the responsibilities can be found here:
>> >
>> > http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#chair
>> >
>> > --
>> > Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season
>> > came the aftermath -- and Cenbe."
>> >
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Re: PMC chair for Apache NetBeans

[Geertjan Wielenga]

One concern I have with me being PPMC chair is some future article by
someone ending with “...and with an Oracle product manager chairing Apache
NetBeans, Oracle is still in control of the project”. Of course, if I am
not the PPMC chair, that same article will end with “...and with a
non-Oracle contributor as PPMC chair, Oracle has now truly dumped NetBeans”.

So, maybe we shouldn’t focus on this concern.

>From my perspective, I am not opposed to Kevin’s succession plan — me as
chair, with me liaising with Glenn Holmer and preparing him to take over.
Of course, this would need to be voted on, one vote thread for me now, and
in a year from now a new thread for Glenn.

Anyway, these are my personal thoughts and anyone is free to disagree or
simply start a vote thread, so that this part of our graduation to top
level project can be completed.

Gj


On Friday, February 1, 2019, Eric Barboni  wrote:

> As Geertjan says "preferably NOT me" we should then propose Glenn.
>
> There is no time limit for a chair term it can be more than 1 year.
> If PMC or PMC chair wants changes, PMC will discuss (maybe vote) for a new
> name, it should be anticipated before a board monthly meeting. (board will
> accept or reject).
>
> Eric
>
> -Message d'origine-
> De : Josh Juneau 
> Envoyé : jeudi 31 janvier 2019 23:09
> À : dev 
> Objet : Re: PMC chair for Apache NetBeans
>
> +1 to Geertjan AND also +1 for Glenn Holmer.  Both would be excellent
> candidates.  I like Kevin's succession plan idea with respect to Geertjan
> being the first chair for year one.
>
> Josh Juneau
> juneau...@gmail.com
> http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com
> https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 3:53 PM Glenn Holmer 
> wrote:
>
> > On 1/31/19 12:05 PM, Emilian Bold wrote:
> > > I believe Glenn Holmer would be a good first Chair.
> >
> > I would be willing to serve in this capacity. A good description of
> > the responsibilities can be found here:
> >
> > http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#chair
> >
> > --
> > Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season
> > came the aftermath -- and Cenbe."
> >
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> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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RE: PMC chair for Apache NetBeans

[Eric Barboni]

As Geertjan says "preferably NOT me" we should then propose Glenn.

There is no time limit for a chair term it can be more than 1 year.
If PMC or PMC chair wants changes, PMC will discuss (maybe vote) for a new 
name, it should be anticipated before a board monthly meeting. (board will 
accept or reject).

Eric

-Message d'origine-
De : Josh Juneau  
Envoyé : jeudi 31 janvier 2019 23:09
À : dev 
Objet : Re: PMC chair for Apache NetBeans

+1 to Geertjan AND also +1 for Glenn Holmer.  Both would be excellent
candidates.  I like Kevin's succession plan idea with respect to Geertjan being 
the first chair for year one.

Josh Juneau
juneau...@gmail.com
http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com
https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866



On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 3:53 PM Glenn Holmer 
wrote:

> On 1/31/19 12:05 PM, Emilian Bold wrote:
> > I believe Glenn Holmer would be a good first Chair.
>
> I would be willing to serve in this capacity. A good description of 
> the responsibilities can be found here:
>
> http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#chair
>
> --
> Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season 
> came the aftermath -- and Cenbe."
>
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Re: PMC chair for Apache NetBeans

[Josh Juneau]

+1 to Geertjan AND also +1 for Glenn Holmer.  Both would be excellent
candidates.  I like Kevin's succession plan idea with respect to Geertjan
being the first chair for year one.

Josh Juneau
juneau...@gmail.com
http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com
https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866



On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 3:53 PM Glenn Holmer 
wrote:

> On 1/31/19 12:05 PM, Emilian Bold wrote:
> > I believe Glenn Holmer would be a good first Chair.
>
> I would be willing to serve in this capacity. A good description of the
> responsibilities can be found here:
>
> http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#chair
>
> --
> Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682)
> "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe."
>
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Re: PMC chair for Apache NetBeans

[Glenn Holmer]

On 1/31/19 12:05 PM, Emilian Bold wrote:

I believe Glenn Holmer would be a good first Chair.


I would be willing to serve in this capacity. A good description of the 
responsibilities can be found here:


http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#chair

--
Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682)
"After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe."

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Re: PMC chair for Apache NetBeans

[Kevin A. McGrail]

I would just add my $0.02 that Geertjan has done a good job and his
acknowledgment of a possible COI with Oracle speaks volumes as well.

I would recommend he be considered for the 1st year as PMC chair with a
good plan for succession for year two.

He's worked hard during the incubation and I think it would do well to
recognize him.

Regards,
KAM
On 1/31/2019 1:05 PM, Emilian Bold wrote:
> I believe Glenn Holmer would be a good first Chair.
>
> --emi
>
> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 5:29 PM Geertjan Wielenga
>  wrote:
>> Wait. :-) I said preferably NOT me...
>>
>> Gj
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 4:19 PM Antonio Vieiro  wrote:
>>
>>> +1 for Geertjan as PMC Chair!
>>>
>>> El El jue, 31 ene 2019 a las 14:57, Geertjan Wielenga
>>>  escribió:
>>>
 Hi all,

 Here's the page describing what is needed for an incubating project to
 become a top level project:

 https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html

 In there is stated:

 "...you need to appoint a Chair for your project. It is up to the PPMC to
 choose one person to act as the chair after graduation."

 How do we want to do this, I suppose it is a question of putting vote
 threads together for as many people as want to volunteer to be the PMC
 chair?

 The tasks are light: "The primary duty of a PMC chair is providing
 quarterly reports to the board about the health and status of their
 project."

 See: https://apache.org/foundation/governance/pmcs.html

 From my perspective, it would be a strong indicator of the independence
>>> of
 NetBeans from Oracle if the PMC chair were to NOT be from Oracle. The
 opposite argument is that every individual contributor is equal and it
 doesn't matter where the PMC chair comes from. Still, ideally, I think,
>>> it
 would not be me or someone from Oracle.

 However, I believe there are several people available to take on the PMC
 chair role. Should we start be seeing who wants to volunteer themselves
>>> for
 this role? Or how do we want to do this?

 Thanks,

 Gj

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Re: PMC chair for Apache NetBeans

[Emilian Bold]

I believe Glenn Holmer would be a good first Chair.

--emi

On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 5:29 PM Geertjan Wielenga
 wrote:
>
> Wait. :-) I said preferably NOT me...
>
> Gj
>
> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 4:19 PM Antonio Vieiro  wrote:
>
> > +1 for Geertjan as PMC Chair!
> >
> > El El jue, 31 ene 2019 a las 14:57, Geertjan Wielenga
> >  escribió:
> >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > Here's the page describing what is needed for an incubating project to
> > > become a top level project:
> > >
> > > https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html
> > >
> > > In there is stated:
> > >
> > > "...you need to appoint a Chair for your project. It is up to the PPMC to
> > > choose one person to act as the chair after graduation."
> > >
> > > How do we want to do this, I suppose it is a question of putting vote
> > > threads together for as many people as want to volunteer to be the PMC
> > > chair?
> > >
> > > The tasks are light: "The primary duty of a PMC chair is providing
> > > quarterly reports to the board about the health and status of their
> > > project."
> > >
> > > See: https://apache.org/foundation/governance/pmcs.html
> > >
> > > From my perspective, it would be a strong indicator of the independence
> > of
> > > NetBeans from Oracle if the PMC chair were to NOT be from Oracle. The
> > > opposite argument is that every individual contributor is equal and it
> > > doesn't matter where the PMC chair comes from. Still, ideally, I think,
> > it
> > > would not be me or someone from Oracle.
> > >
> > > However, I believe there are several people available to take on the PMC
> > > chair role. Should we start be seeing who wants to volunteer themselves
> > for
> > > this role? Or how do we want to do this?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Gj
> > >
> >

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Re: PMC chair for Apache NetBeans

[Geertjan Wielenga]

Wait. :-) I said preferably NOT me...

Gj

On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 4:19 PM Antonio Vieiro  wrote:

> +1 for Geertjan as PMC Chair!
>
> El El jue, 31 ene 2019 a las 14:57, Geertjan Wielenga
>  escribió:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Here's the page describing what is needed for an incubating project to
> > become a top level project:
> >
> > https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html
> >
> > In there is stated:
> >
> > "...you need to appoint a Chair for your project. It is up to the PPMC to
> > choose one person to act as the chair after graduation."
> >
> > How do we want to do this, I suppose it is a question of putting vote
> > threads together for as many people as want to volunteer to be the PMC
> > chair?
> >
> > The tasks are light: "The primary duty of a PMC chair is providing
> > quarterly reports to the board about the health and status of their
> > project."
> >
> > See: https://apache.org/foundation/governance/pmcs.html
> >
> > From my perspective, it would be a strong indicator of the independence
> of
> > NetBeans from Oracle if the PMC chair were to NOT be from Oracle. The
> > opposite argument is that every individual contributor is equal and it
> > doesn't matter where the PMC chair comes from. Still, ideally, I think,
> it
> > would not be me or someone from Oracle.
> >
> > However, I believe there are several people available to take on the PMC
> > chair role. Should we start be seeing who wants to volunteer themselves
> for
> > this role? Or how do we want to do this?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Gj
> >
>

Re: PMC chair for Apache NetBeans

[Antonio Vieiro]

+1 for Geertjan as PMC Chair!

El El jue, 31 ene 2019 a las 14:57, Geertjan Wielenga
 escribió:

> Hi all,
>
> Here's the page describing what is needed for an incubating project to
> become a top level project:
>
> https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html
>
> In there is stated:
>
> "...you need to appoint a Chair for your project. It is up to the PPMC to
> choose one person to act as the chair after graduation."
>
> How do we want to do this, I suppose it is a question of putting vote
> threads together for as many people as want to volunteer to be the PMC
> chair?
>
> The tasks are light: "The primary duty of a PMC chair is providing
> quarterly reports to the board about the health and status of their
> project."
>
> See: https://apache.org/foundation/governance/pmcs.html
>
> From my perspective, it would be a strong indicator of the independence of
> NetBeans from Oracle if the PMC chair were to NOT be from Oracle. The
> opposite argument is that every individual contributor is equal and it
> doesn't matter where the PMC chair comes from. Still, ideally, I think, it
> would not be me or someone from Oracle.
>
> However, I believe there are several people available to take on the PMC
> chair role. Should we start be seeing who wants to volunteer themselves for
> this role? Or how do we want to do this?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Gj
>

PMC chair for Apache NetBeans

[Geertjan Wielenga]

Hi all,

Here's the page describing what is needed for an incubating project to
become a top level project:

https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html

In there is stated:

"...you need to appoint a Chair for your project. It is up to the PPMC to
choose one person to act as the chair after graduation."

How do we want to do this, I suppose it is a question of putting vote
threads together for as many people as want to volunteer to be the PMC
chair?

The tasks are light: "The primary duty of a PMC chair is providing
quarterly reports to the board about the health and status of their
project."

See: https://apache.org/foundation/governance/pmcs.html

>From my perspective, it would be a strong indicator of the independence of
NetBeans from Oracle if the PMC chair were to NOT be from Oracle. The
opposite argument is that every individual contributor is equal and it
doesn't matter where the PMC chair comes from. Still, ideally, I think, it
would not be me or someone from Oracle.

However, I believe there are several people available to take on the PMC
chair role. Should we start be seeing who wants to volunteer themselves for
this role? Or how do we want to do this?

Thanks,

Gj