Re: Official survey service? (Was: Re: Conversation: Pick A Logo)

2013-04-20 Thread Dave Fisher

On Apr 19, 2013, at 5:37 AM, janI wrote:

 On 19 April 2013 13:48, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:
 
 On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 7:39 AM, janI j...@apache.org wrote:
 
 On 19 April 2013 13:29, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:
 
 On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 7:20 AM, janI j...@apache.org wrote:
 
 On 18 April 2013 21:58, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote:
 
 janI wrote:
 
 On 18 April 2013 13:13, Rob Weir wrote:
 
 If we want I can put a poll up on http://openofficesurvey.org.
 
 Where would like survey.openoffice.org to point to ?
 
 
 Indeed, let's avoid using unofficial domains when we can redirect
 an
 official subdomain. Redirecting the DNS won't pose a big burden on
 Infra
 and just requires (lazy) consensus here.
 
 Regards,
  Andrea.
 
 
 23 hours, not bad for month-long wrestling match with
 Infra to get something like this set up !!!
 
 The patch I made for dns is up and running. you can open 
 survey.openoffice.org. BUT something is not working in the other
 end,
 reply comes from hostmonster, with a possibilities to buy cars erc.
 
 
 The DNS stuff had to happen first, and only then I can get it working
 on
 my
 end.
 
 
 
 and yes I am a direct person, I like to tell people when they do
 something
 good and visa versa, but I dont like assuming ill behaivourbut
 that
 is
 just my way, and I am sorry if my direct way offended someonebut
 look
 infra got their part done, without wrestling.
 
 
 I'm not assuming bad behavior.  I was just stating that I don't have
 the
 time to guess whether this is an occasion where we get a fast response
 or a
 slow one.  The response time from Infra, IMHO, is entirely
 unpredictable.
 I have another DNS-related Infra request that are no more complicated
 and
 have waited almost a year.  It looks like we were fortunate this time.
 
 
 or we have a better connection now :-) think about the other infra things
 that have happened lately (wiki, new translate, proxy setup), the ones I
 know off have all had resonable response time
 
 I was not trying to shoot at you, I just have another impression of
 infra...but of course, I am not neutral.
 
 
 Our need to pick a logo design is very predictable and the time line for
 that must go forward.  So I was happy to move forward with this either
 way.  If I can avoid a dependency on Infra that is a good thing, not a
 bad
 one.
 
 
 completely correct, but if the price is to have a non openoffice.orgsite,
 it is at least a high price to pay.
 
 Using a non-openoffice.org site is a non-issue.  We've gathered user
 opinions on Google Moderator and Facebook, without problems.  Other
 groups
 in the ASF have used Google Docs-based surveys.   No one has ever raised
 concerns about using 3rd party services for this.  This is not a high
 price to pay.
 
 
 In any case, my practice remains -- and I'm sure most in Infra would agree
 with me here -- if you can do something without having a dependency on
 Apache Infra it is a good thing.  Let them focus on things that only they
 can do.  Self-service is a good thing.
 
 
 No problem, everybody is entitled to have their opinion...I just try to
 help.
 
 You  wrote earlier I have another DNS-related Infra request that are no
 more complicated and
 have waited almost a year
 
 I had a look in jira to find the issue, to see if I could solve it, but I
 cannot find any open issues with you as requestor, and when I search for
 DNS there are no really old issues.
 
 If you give me the jira number I will have a look at it, and maybe ask why
 it has waited so long.

Exactly. There are five unordered principles to dealing with infrastructure.

(1) Politeness.
(2) Patience.
(3) Persistence.
(4) Be Willing to Help. The more you help, the more you understand, the more 
you can help, ... several project committers have done this.
(5) Put the request in JIRA. Infra looks there when they have cycles.

Regards,
Dave

 
 rgds
 Jan I.
 
 
 -Rob
 
 
 
 
 @rob: can you please have a look at your end, you need problaly to
 add
 it
 as a vhost.
 
 
 Yes.
 
 
 I am not sure what the survey actually is, some kind of py/perl/js, I
 can
 get an idea, I can think about how we can move it to our own site.
 
 
 It is a PHP app, LimeSurvey.  Pre-reqs are listed here:
 
 
 
 
 http://manual.limesurvey.org/wiki/Installation#1._Make_sure_you_can_use_LimeSurvey_on_your_website
 
 
 thx for the link, I will have a look at it.
 
 rgds
 jan I.
 
 
 Regards,
 
 -Rob
 
 
 rgds
 Jan I.
 
 
 
 
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Re: std::stringstream aStrStream

2013-04-20 Thread Ariel Constenla-Haile
On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 11:59:41AM -0500, jorge ivan poot diaz wrote:
  std::stringstream aS;
[...]
 std::string s = aS.str();
[...]
 pEntry = new XColorEntry( aAktuellColor, s );
 --
 Would be like this
 
 pColorTab-Insert( pColorTab-Count(), pEntry );
 
 aLbColor.Append( pEntry );
 aValSetColorTable.InsertItem( aValSetColorTable.GetItemCount() + 1,
 pEntry-GetColor(), pEntry-GetName() );
 
 aLbColor.SelectEntryPos( aLbColor.GetEntryCount() - 1 );
 
 But this does not work, in building generates error:
 http://imagebin.org/254616

(it would be more useful to put the error in a pastebin, not an
imagebin)

The error message is rather clear: there is no matching function call to
the any of the constructors of XColorEntry, none takes a std::string.

http://opengrok.adfinis-sygroup.org/source/xref/aoo-trunk/main/svx/inc/svx/xtable.hxx#57

The constructor that is used in this code is

XColorEntry(const Color rColor, const String rName)

it takes a tools' string
http://opengrok.adfinis-sygroup.org/source/xref/aoo-trunk/main/tools/inc/tools/string.hxx


On the other head, why are you using std::stringstream/string?  In the
core code you should not use standard C++ string classes, but
rtl::OUString, OUStringBuffer, etc.; even if you are playing with the
code, before diving into the source, you should get familiar with them
- in general, with the whole C++ UNO language binding:

http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/DevGuide/ProUNO/C%2B%2B/C%2B%2B_Language_Binding
http://www.openoffice.org/api/docs/cpp/ref/
http://www.openoffice.org/api/docs/cpp/ref/names/rtl/c-OUString.html
http://www.openoffice.org/api/docs/cpp/ref/names/rtl/c-OString.html
http://www.openoffice.org/api/docs/cpp/ref/names/rtl/c-OUStringBuffer.html
http://www.openoffice.org/api/docs/cpp/ref/names/rtl/c-OStringBuffer.html

Set-up the SDK and play with the string sample in
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/trunk/main/odk/examples/DevelopersGuide/ProfUNO/CppBinding/


Regards
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Ariel Constenla-Haile
La Plata, Argentina


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Re: Bug[119445]

2013-04-20 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 16/04/2013 Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:

IMO this bug needs input from User Experience experts: the menu is not
duplicated because in one case you export directly to PDF, while the
File - Export... menu takes more steps to export to PDF; so, removing
File - Export as PDF... might be seen as a regression by the user.


It just needs common sense, not a UX expert: if we remove the direct 
Export as PDF option and leave only the generic Export, we will 
probably put it back after a few hundreds users have contacted us about 
the perceived regression.


It might have been an interesting exercise for Rajath (welcome!), but it 
will stop there. Rajath, if you want an useful simple bug to solve 
then a good candidate is 
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=113059 which contains 
detailed instructions too.


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  Andrea.

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Re: Bug[119445]

2013-04-20 Thread Rajath Shashidhara
Hello Andrea,
Thank you for a bug suggestion. I have stopped working on the previous bug.
I'll start working on this as soon as my exams are over!


On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 2:14 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.orgwrote:

 On 16/04/2013 Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:

 IMO this bug needs input from User Experience experts: the menu is not
 duplicated because in one case you export directly to PDF, while the
 File - Export... menu takes more steps to export to PDF; so, removing
 File - Export as PDF... might be seen as a regression by the user.


 It just needs common sense, not a UX expert: if we remove the direct
 Export as PDF option and leave only the generic Export, we will
 probably put it back after a few hundreds users have contacted us about the
 perceived regression.

 It might have been an interesting exercise for Rajath (welcome!), but it
 will stop there. Rajath, if you want an useful simple bug to solve then a
 good candidate is 
 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/**show_bug.cgi?id=113059https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=113059which
  contains detailed instructions too.

 Regards,
   Andrea.


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Re: [CODE]: obsolete binfilter module deleted

2013-04-20 Thread Andrea Pescetti

Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

just a short notice that I have deleted the obsolete binfilter module
from svn.


I've tried to install the latest (r1455404) daily build and the Document 
Converter (Writer, File - Wizards) still offers the StarOffice - 
OpenOffice conversion option.


This option should be removed, since it doesn't work any longer (it 
shows the Filter Selection dialog and fails badly). I can open an issue 
if you prefer, but there's nothing else to say.


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Re: [CODE]: obsolete binfilter module deleted

2013-04-20 Thread Juergen Schmidt
Hi,   

yes open an issue for this. I have just removed the module. This wizard 
wouldn't have worked before my removal anyway ;-) but of course this should be 
fixed...

Juergen  


Am Samstag, 20. April 2013 um 23:19 schrieb Andrea Pescetti:

 Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
  just a short notice that I have deleted the obsolete binfilter module
  from svn.
   
  
  
 I've tried to install the latest (r1455404) daily build and the Document  
 Converter (Writer, File - Wizards) still offers the StarOffice -  
 OpenOffice conversion option.
  
 This option should be removed, since it doesn't work any longer (it  
 shows the Filter Selection dialog and fails badly). I can open an issue  
 if you prefer, but there's nothing else to say.
  
 Regards,
 Andrea.
  
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Re: [CODE]: obsolete binfilter module deleted

2013-04-20 Thread Pavel Janík
Hi,

On Apr 20, 2013, at 11:50 PM, Juergen Schmidt wrote:

 yes open an issue for this. I have just removed the module. This wizard 
 wouldn't have worked before my removal anyway ;-) but of course this should 
 be fixed...

yup.

Strange it was there even with --without-binfilter before.
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Re: [CODE]: obsolete binfilter module deleted

2013-04-20 Thread Andrea Pescetti

Juergen Schmidt wrote:

yes open an issue for this.


Here it is:
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122112
Document converter still offers to convert StarOffice files

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Re: OSSD Motivations

2013-04-20 Thread Rob Weir
On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 6:01 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.orgwrote:

 On 19/04/2013 janI wrote:

 Remark questions are repeated, this seems little serious to me.


 They are not really repeated: you have all questions in two variants,
 something like:
 What was the main reason for you to join the project?
 What is  the main reason for you to stay in the project?

 That said, I've answered literally dozens of surveys about motivations
 for people to join open source project (generally for students' projects)
 over the years, and I've never, really never, got back a copy of the final
 work... So I cannot tell whether this is something useful or purely an
 academic exercise.


My guess is there is one or more popular university classes that require
students to do this kind of survey.

-Rob



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Re: Sidebar

2013-04-20 Thread RGB ES
2013/4/21 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org

 On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 9:31 AM, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote:

  Those working on the Sidebar may find it of interest to look at that in
  KWord
 
  http://www.kde.org/applications/office/kword/
 
 
 That's a nice looking interface.


Note that kword is not being actively developed anymore, most koffice
developers are on calligra suite:

http://www.calligra-suite.org/

Regards
Ricardo




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Defect Status as of 4/22/2013

2013-04-20 Thread Yi Xuan Liu
Hi, all:

Here http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/QA/Report/DefectStatus/20130422 is
the defect status weekly report as of 4/22/2013.

We're glad to see that our sidebar test has gained a great progree with the
help of volunteers.
27 sidebar defects are opened this week. The list is attached
herehttp://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/QA/Report/DefectStatus/20130422#Sidebar_Defects_This_week
.

Thanks for all voluteers in sidebar testing in past weeks. Hope you could
continue support us to complete the sidebar test this week :)