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Original Message From: Wright Grant Omar Rivelino To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 17:56:36 + > Can you remove rant_o...@hotmail.com from Open Office I dont use it, and I > reseave several massage > > Thanks > > Omar You are subscribed as grant_o...@hotmail.com Send an email from grant_o...@hotmail.com to dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org To complete the automated unsubscribe process, reply to the confirmation request email you receive. Dave - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: tech support
This query was moderated into the list. I've included Martin in the response. On Apr 27, 2013, at 12:36 AM, Rory O'Farrell wrote: > On Sat, 27 Apr 2013 00:02:54 -0700 (PDT) > Martin Obrien wrote: > >> I am trying to get help with a sudden aberration I am experiencing with Open >> Office. Can you please send me in the right direction? >> > The Forum at http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/ offers good support for > Users dealing with OpenOffice problems. You will need to give full details > of your Operating System, OpenOffice version and the problem. > > > -- > Rory O'Farrell > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Update on logo survey
Hi Rob, Hi all of us, I took time to think about your a), b), c), d) e) solution concerning the feedback of survey, and your additional e) solution (to be defined, if relevant) May I suggest this e) to-be-defined solution as following as a mix of a) and d) : e) *Publicly post all, the good the bad and the ugly* - all comments and data of the survey are published on a document available across the tools used for the project, maybe on the confluence engine pages - AND *Publicly post the feedback only for the top 5 logos* as a sort of synthesis page where a link for the entire feeback is also given. I would say, in one hand, it would be honnest to publish publicly the entire results of the survey - for transparency, and even the ugly comments could give information both concerning the art design perception and profil attempts of the venerable public who participated - and in the second hand, it would be usefull to get only the top 5 logos comments which allow some of us to do not waste time to read the entire comments of all logos - and to focus energy and emotions on 5 elected logo candidates. Note it is only a point of view, and not a stupid temptative to impose a soit-disant universal thruth. Freely, Antoine 2013/4/25 Rob Weir > A quick update. We've been running for 18 hours, enough time to get > around the globe. > > So far we have 1712 responses. > > It is probably worth thinking about what we want to do with all the > data. I did an analysis of the results so far, and some quick > thoughts: > > 1) The question asking for person's age appears to be useless. Unless > we have an unusual number of users in their 70's , 80's and 90's, a > large number of users are entering their birth year rather than their > age. So I'm planning on just ignoring that field. (This is probably > why you often see this done as a drop down list of years in other > surveys, less error prone). > > 2) I will be able to produce a list of logos, sorted by average score > and given the % breakdown of 1's, 2's, 3's, etc. Maybe even a > histogram chart for each. > > 3) We're receiving a lot of comments on the individual logos, many > more than I expected. So we can expect that for each logo there will > be 200 or more text comments. I'm not sure what we want to do with > these. Since this is an anonymous survey the users are quite blunt > with their comments on the logos they did not prefer, using coarse > language, etc., stuff that would be inappropriate if a list subscriber > posted. It is not all constructive criticism. Some of it is quite > harsh. On the other hand, there is a tremendous amount of valuable > feedback as well, that we and the designers specifically might find > useful. So what to do? > > a) Post it all, the good the bad and the ugly? > > b) Remove or censor only profanity and post the rest? > > c) Make feedback available only to the individual designers via email > > d) Publicly post the feedback only for the top 5 logos, share the rest > privately with the individual designers. > > e) Something else? > > > -Rob > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org > >
Re: [RELEASE]: new snapshot build based on revision 1471628
On 4/27/13 3:49 AM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: > On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 09:14:28AM +0200, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: >> So let us use 1476029 > > Linux builds are available (since some hours, forgot to inform it > here). > MacOS and windows as well https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds#DevelopmentSnapshotBuilds-AOOSnapshotfullsets Juergen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Translation for AOO 4.0
On 4/26/13 9:36 PM, janI wrote: > On 26 April 2013 20:41, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: > >> On 4/26/13 8:10 PM, janI wrote: >>> On 26 April 2013 18:52, Rob Weir wrote: >>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 12:45 PM, Claudio Filho >> wrote: > Hi > > Em 26/04/2013 12:13, "janI" escreveu: > >>> for the record, this was not what I saidI simply believe that a >> feature without help (and documentation) is not complete and if >> released >> should be highlighted because our average user depend on help in many >> situations. > > Only to give an out perspective, this "highlighted" can return against we, > as a incomplete or immature development. > > Imho, an important feature of aoo project is its concern in bring and > deliver a product with high quality. So, the PoV of Ariel and Jan are solid. > Then all the more reason for someone who cares to enter an issue into BZ for this. Don't you agree? >>> >>> I have not seen BZ yet for problems/shortcomming with new features in >>> development (e.g. where are the detailed outstandings of IA2, jsc 3 layer >>> change etc). The help/documentation issue is part of the general sidebar >>> development, but of course we can make one big extra BZ for the 4.0 >>> release just to please the administrative overhead. >> >> well I had at least one issue for my 3 layer work and got a second one >> for a problem that I introduced. I will create more top finish the SDK >> adoption. An of course I would prefer indeed issues for all many more >> changes. >> >>> >>> making BZ for problems/missing with ongoing development is highly >>> problematic, I could f.x. make about 10 BZ for genLang, and I am pretty >>> sure the sidebar developers/documenters/testers could make about at least >>> 100 BZ if they wanted to. It would simply flood BZ, make real problems >>> harder to spot, and put an extra burden on the people doing the work. I >>> f.x. have a simply list with my outstandings,which is quite normal during >>> the development/initial test phase. >> we have indeed many issues now for the sidebar to document the problems. >> Problems from very trivial to more complex and not easy to solve. >> Missing help is of course one that should be tracked with an issue. As >> release manager I will of course not accept it as showstopper if we have >> no issue. And even then it has to be discussed. >> >> We had again a lot of discussion and nobody started to solve the >> problem. I have at least tried to collect some info about the format and >> the tooling. And Ariel provided a patch that will help with extended >> tooltips. But nobody started work on a help file so far. >> >> If somebody will veto the release because of a missing help file you can >> be sure that I will never ever acting as release manager again. >> > According to ASF rules a veto cannot be vetoed...release manager needs to > say go, with min. 3 PMCs. I know and I meant more that I wouldn't understand if somebody votes -1 for this. I wood prefer if we can all support a release and can reach common consensus. Juergen > > In general the vote is a majority vote for releases, so even if e.g. I was > to vote -1 it would not have a big effect...but stay rested I will not be > the show stopper. > > Unless I read the rules really wrong. > > rgds > Jan I > > >> >> And yes it would be missing and it should be fixed, we all agree but it >> is not stopper issue. We have much more serious problems that we have to >> fix before. >> >>> >>> making a special BZ for this issue, is in my opinion just an >> administrativ >>> trix, it does not change 1 millimeter about the fact, that we have both a >>> challenge. And also I dont understand why you separate this issue from >> all >>> the other open issues with sidebar. >> >> I really don't see a separation here, it's simply one more issue >> regarding the sidebar. >> >>> >>> We should be focussing a lot more on solving our challenges !! >> >> exactly and I don't see that here >> >>> >>> Discussing whether or not help is integrated after both developers and >>> documenters have told it is not, or whether or not a BZ should be filled >>> out are not positive for the process or for our community. >>> >>> This is of course my private meaning, but we have a real tendency at the >>> moment to discuss the administrative surrounding and not the kernel >> issues. >>> I do not understand, why that is, but I strongly believe it signals >>> something negative. >> >> bring your concerns on the table and describe it clearly that we all can >> understand exactly what you mean. It is better to start the discussion now. >> >> >>> >>> Lets try to focus on the problems, make solutions...not administrative >>> stoppers, any objections to that ? >> >> an issue for this problem is quite normal and the solution is to start >> working on it. Quite easy from my pint of view. >> >> Juergen >> >>> >>> rgds >>> Jan I. >>> >>> >>> >>>
Re: tech support
On Sat, 27 Apr 2013 00:02:54 -0700 (PDT) Martin Obrien wrote: > I am trying to get help with a sudden aberration I am experiencing with Open > Office. Can you please send me in the right direction? > The Forum at http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/ offers good support for Users dealing with OpenOffice problems. You will need to give full details of your Operating System, OpenOffice version and the problem. -- Rory O'Farrell - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
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I am trying to get help with a sudden aberration I am experiencing with Open Office. Can you please send me in the right direction?
