Re: AOOTest-277

2014-03-14 Thread Rainer Bielefeld

Rainer Bielefeld schrieb:


can someone please check whether test descriptions for above mentioned
test are correct?


Thanks to Sandhya Sivakumar, who left a comment in the Bug.

CU

Rainer

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Re: openoffice4 not recognize different fonts

2014-03-14 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 3/14/14 2:40 AM, panghon...@163.com wrote:
> Hi,
>  
> openoffice4 not recognize different Chinese fonts, but libreoffice4 can
> identify. Annex word document.

we need more information to get a more detailed picture of the problem.

- which fonts, please provide the names etc.
- a test document
- your operating system


Juergen


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4.1.0_release_blocker requested: [Bug 124426] Pop-up errors when open various files on Mac

2014-03-14 Thread bugzilla
fanyuz...@gmail.com has asked  for 4.1.0_release_blocker:
Bug 124426: Pop-up errors when open various files on Mac
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124426


--- Additional Comments from fanyuz...@gmail.com
Reported by Michael Rutherford (Thanks!):

I'm using the AOO 4.1 Beta on my Mac (OS X 10.9.2) and just wanted you to know
that I'm seeing a number of pop-up errors when I open various files.  Please
note that once I click on "OK" for each of these errors, the file is opened and
I can edit successfully.  I can provide details as necessary.


Confirmed by Clarence Guo (Thanks!):

Yes, I can confirm this problem on my MAC 10.9.0 with the latest snapshot build
1573601.
But I cannot reproduce the problem on the same OS with build 1566593. So it
seems a regression defect happened in the very recent days.

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Re: [DOCUMENTATION] better installation guide - issue 124400 and issue 124408

2014-03-14 Thread Oliver-Rainer Wittmann

Hi,

On 13.03.2014 21:52, Marcus (OOo) wrote:

Am 03/13/2014 09:36 AM, schrieb Oliver-Rainer Wittmann:

Hi,

On 12.03.2014 21:15, Marcus (OOo) wrote:

Am 03/12/2014 12:30 PM, schrieb Oliver-Rainer Wittmann:

Hi,

Rainer recently noticed that our installation guides needs
improvement -
see issues 124343 and 124400.
I am volunteering to take corresponding actions. But I need support and
feedback - I am neither a web designer nor a technical writer


I can support you with the webdesign. Maybe it's gets a bit hard (when I
read Kay's mail ;-) ) but I would try.


Issue 124343:
This is about the visibility of the headings.
My suggestion here is to make the font used for the headings (all
levels) bold. Thus, I would like to propose to change our corresponding
CSS [1].

Please provide feedback regarding my suggestion.


This is a central CSS file. Changes here would affect nearly all
webpages. This needs to be treated very carefully.


Does it makes sense to make more or less all headings on our website
bold?


No, I'm pretty sure here and there it wouldn't be the intended style.


Are there alternatives to improve the visibility of heading?
Should we make all heading italic or larger?


Again no. ;-)



Such a feedback does not help as you only say no, no, no, ... without
any alternative suggestion :-)


I'm sorry when you expected some code or else. But without looking
closer into the CSS styling I wouldn't do anything.



No, I do not expect any code.
Just feedback as you have given, but also alternative suggestions, when 
my proposed changes are not your favorites.



I would start with improving the text content. Then we should think
about the formatting.


BTW:
This was my suggestion. Maybe you have overlooked it. ;-)


No, but I mad a mistake - see below.




What do you think?


Hm. We have issue 124343 for the formatting and issue 124400 for the
content.
Changing the words of a heading will not improve its visibility. Thus, I
think that these issues can be treated separately.


https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124400
Website: Installation guides: Headings do not look like headings

https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124343
Website: Bugzilla documentation: Headings do not look like headings

For me it's the same - just 2 different websites. I've adjusted the
issue summaries.



Damn, now I know what went wrong.
I referenced the wrong issues - I am sorry.

It is 124400 for the formatting on the installation guide website
and 124408 [1] for the content on the installation guide website.

That is why I was puzzled by your suggestion to 'start improving content 
and then look on formatting'.


Thus, content and formatting of our installation guide is what I want to 
work on


[1] https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124408 - Improve AOO 
Installation Guide



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Re: openoffice.lst, can wJRE be deleted?

2014-03-14 Thread Andre Fischer

On 13.03.2014 23:15, Kay Schenk wrote:



On 03/13/2014 06:49 AM, Raphael Bircher wrote:

Hi all

In openoffice.lst there is still a configuration for the with JRE 
build. We have anymor Builds with JRE, and I doubt that we will have 
in future. The license of Java is not ALv2 compatible, right. So the 
question is, can we delete this part?


Greetings Raphael


I would think so unless others have a different opinion.


I agree that removing this entry from openoffice.lst is a good idea.

Raphael, do you want to do it or shall I?  I already have two modules on 
my to-remove list for Monday already.


-Andre




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Document Freedom Day 2014 @Taiwan

2014-03-14 Thread imacat
Dear all,

We are holding the Document Freedom Day 2014 at Taiwan, on
2014/3/26(Wed).  There will be two DFD 2014 meetings in Taiwan:

* Taipei: 2014/3/23(Wed) 18:30 at WaWa Book 2nd Floor
  http://imacat.kktix.cc/events/dfd2014
  2F., No.3, Sec. 2, Bade Rd., Da’an Dist., Taipei City, Taiwan
  imacat will be sharing "from doc, docx to odt and GoogleDocs".  We'll
also share the latest development of OpenOffice 4.1 and LibreOffice 4.2.1.

* Hualian: 2014/3/23(Wed) 19:30 at Yuri Suangan Caf'e
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Re: openoffice.lst, can wJRE be deleted?

2014-03-14 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 3/14/14 8:55 AM, Andre Fischer wrote:
> On 13.03.2014 23:15, Kay Schenk wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 03/13/2014 06:49 AM, Raphael Bircher wrote:
>>> Hi all
>>>
>>> In openoffice.lst there is still a configuration for the with JRE
>>> build. We have anymor Builds with JRE, and I doubt that we will have
>>> in future. The license of Java is not ALv2 compatible, right. So the
>>> question is, can we delete this part?
>>>
>>> Greetings Raphael
>>
>> I would think so unless others have a different opinion.
> 
> I agree that removing this entry from openoffice.lst is a good idea.
> 
> Raphael, do you want to do it or shall I?  I already have two modules on
> my to-remove list for Monday already.

removing the word perfect wrapper files is potentially Beta relevant.
Just to keep it separated ;-)

Juergen

> 
> -Andre
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Beta Survey

2014-03-14 Thread Rob Weir
The purpose of having a beta release of 4.1 is to gather feedback from
users.  Reports to Bugzilla or the mailing list is one source of
feedback.  But that doesn't give us a good sense of coverage.  If
there were no beta testers of the Bulgarian translation (for example)
then we'd probably want to take a closer look, at that specific
package.

I'm putting together a beta survey that we can have beta testers fill
out, to record their testing experience.  I'm thinking of questions
like:

1) What platform they ran with

2) What language they used

3) How many hours they have used AOO beta

4) Which apps did they use

5) What file formats did they read/write

6) Link to a list of P1 bugs reported on beta:   Did they encounter
any of these bugs?

7) Did they encounter any other bugs?  (Nudge them to enter a BZ report)

8) Did they try any of the new features in AOO 4.1 (list them)

9) Any other comments (free text response)

Does anyone have any other suggested questions?

The plan would be to send out the survey early next week, before the
beta period is done, so we can react to any feedback.

-Rob

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Re: Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice website : wrong download link

2014-03-14 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 14/03/2014 Marcus (OOo) wrote:

Thanks for the hint. I've enhanced the German webpage to offer the Beta
Release additionally.


Now http://www.openoffice.org/it/download/ is serving the Beta too. 
Could you fix it there too?


http://www.openoffice.org/es/descargar/ apparently has the same problem.

Note: it's not necessary that they offer 4.1.0-beta, the only thing to 
fix is that they claim you will download 4.0.1 but they lead you to a 
4.1.0-beta download (to be simply changed back to a 4.0.1 download).


Regards,
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Re: openoffice.lst, can wJRE be deleted?

2014-03-14 Thread Raphael Bircher
Hi Andre

It's now Issue https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124432
I found some other code related to wJRE in the code. I will prepare a patch.

Greetings Raphael

Am 14.03.2014 um 08:55 schrieb Andre Fischer:

> On 13.03.2014 23:15, Kay Schenk wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> On 03/13/2014 06:49 AM, Raphael Bircher wrote:
>>> Hi all
>>> 
>>> In openoffice.lst there is still a configuration for the with JRE build. We 
>>> have anymor Builds with JRE, and I doubt that we will have in future. The 
>>> license of Java is not ALv2 compatible, right. So the question is, can we 
>>> delete this part?
>>> 
>>> Greetings Raphael
>> 
>> I would think so unless others have a different opinion.
> 
> I agree that removing this entry from openoffice.lst is a good idea.
> 
> Raphael, do you want to do it or shall I?  I already have two modules on my 
> to-remove list for Monday already.
> 
> -Andre
> 
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Re: [DOCUMENTATION] better installation guide - issue 124400 and issue 124408

2014-03-14 Thread Kay Schenk



On 03/14/2014 12:20 AM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:

Hi,

On 13.03.2014 21:52, Marcus (OOo) wrote:

Am 03/13/2014 09:36 AM, schrieb Oliver-Rainer Wittmann:

Hi,

On 12.03.2014 21:15, Marcus (OOo) wrote:

Am 03/12/2014 12:30 PM, schrieb Oliver-Rainer Wittmann:

Hi,

Rainer recently noticed that our installation guides needs
improvement -
see issues 124343 and 124400.
I am volunteering to take corresponding actions. But I need support
and
feedback - I am neither a web designer nor a technical writer


I can support you with the webdesign. Maybe it's gets a bit hard
(when I
read Kay's mail ;-) ) but I would try.


Issue 124343:
This is about the visibility of the headings.
My suggestion here is to make the font used for the headings (all
levels) bold. Thus, I would like to propose to change our
corresponding
CSS [1].

Please provide feedback regarding my suggestion.


This is a central CSS file. Changes here would affect nearly all
webpages. This needs to be treated very carefully.


Does it makes sense to make more or less all headings on our website
bold?


No, I'm pretty sure here and there it wouldn't be the intended style.


Are there alternatives to improve the visibility of heading?
Should we make all heading italic or larger?


Again no. ;-)



Such a feedback does not help as you only say no, no, no, ... without
any alternative suggestion :-)


I'm sorry when you expected some code or else. But without looking
closer into the CSS styling I wouldn't do anything.



No, I do not expect any code.
Just feedback as you have given, but also alternative suggestions, when
my proposed changes are not your favorites.


I would start with improving the text content. Then we should think
about the formatting.


BTW:
This was my suggestion. Maybe you have overlooked it. ;-)


No, but I mad a mistake - see below.




What do you think?


Hm. We have issue 124343 for the formatting and issue 124400 for the
content.
Changing the words of a heading will not improve its visibility. Thus, I
think that these issues can be treated separately.


https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124400
Website: Installation guides: Headings do not look like headings

https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124343
Website: Bugzilla documentation: Headings do not look like headings

For me it's the same - just 2 different websites. I've adjusted the
issue summaries.



Damn, now I know what went wrong.
I referenced the wrong issues - I am sorry.

It is 124400 for the formatting on the installation guide website
and 124408 [1] for the content on the installation guide website.

That is why I was puzzled by your suggestion to 'start improving content
and then look on formatting'.

Thus, content and formatting of our installation guide is what I want to
work on

[1] https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124408 - Improve AOO
Installation Guide


Best regards, Oliver.



Got it! :} I'm sure we can do both -- with some help from the community!


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Re: Proposal to delete unused modules

2014-03-14 Thread Kay Schenk



On 03/13/2014 07:43 PM, Rob Weir wrote:

On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 10:22 PM, Kay Schenk  wrote:

On Mar 13, 2014 5:39 PM, "Rob Weir"  wrote:


On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 6:34 PM, Kay Schenk  wrote:


On 03/13/2014 01:46 AM, Andre Fischer wrote:


I would like to propose to delete two unused modules: main/splitbuild
and main/writerperfect

- splitbuild looks like a collection of files that drive (drove) some
sort of build script to build selected parts of OpenOffice.
It may or may not be related to what is described in [1]. splitbuild
depends on postprocess but nothing depends on splitbuild, therefore it
is not used in any of our builds.

- writerperfect is a second module that is not used anymore.  The only
module that depends on writerperfect is splitbuild.
= There are some references in sysui to the wpf file format
(application/vnd.writerperfect).
= There is a configure switch --with-system-libwpd.  It would

trigger

the building of library libwpft, which is referenced in postprocess and
scp2, but without a dependency on module writerperfect this library is
never built and using --with-system-libwpd could only lead to an error.



This has to do with the processing of Word Perfect files, right?
If we remove this module would this capability no longer exist?



The support for WordPerfect files was already removed in 3.4.0, for
security reasons as well as license issues.  What we're talking about
here is some related code that is not currently being used.

-Rob


OK. An awareness issue on my part, although I don't see anything in the
release notes for either 3.4.0 or 3.4.1 about this. There is info on the
forums about the removal for licensing issues, however.



The security issue related to WPD files was here:

http://www.openoffice.org/security/cves/CVE-2012-2149.html

-Rob


Ok, thanks. Hopefully, we can make changes/removals like this more 
obvious in the future.






So, it makes sense to remove this code.









Does anybody know of any reason not to delete the two modules?

Regards,
Andre



[1]

https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Build_Environment_Effort/Split_Build


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Can i Embed your products

2014-03-14 Thread Muhammed Alhammouri
Dear Open office team,

      I am building my website that contain open software section so Kindly, I 
would like to embed your software in my website or put a link related to your 
products. thank you in advance. And do you have any affiliate program. 

Kindest regards 
Muhammed Alhammouri 

Academic Proposal

2014-03-14 Thread Pedro Coutinho
Good evening,


 

I’m a student
 from Minho University in Portugal, taking my Master's in Computer Teaching, and
myself and a colleague of mine, require as a group to contribute to an open 
source project, as a requirement for the course, during this semester (we
must conclude by July 2014).
The expected outcomes are:
Analyst – Requirement document;
  Programmer – Code;
  Tester – Bug report.
 
Among
a list of choices, we were given, we chose the http://www.openoffice.org/ 
community to collaborate
with. Our teacher Luis Barbosa
(l...@di.uminho.pt) is participating in
the project “A Pilot Project on Non-Conventional Learning” with the 
collaboration
of Sara Fernandes (sara.fernan...@iist.unu.edu)
from de United Nations University – IIST. 




 
Myself and my colleague,
already concluded a Master's degree in Computer Science from the Faculty of 
Science of
Porto University - Portugal. 


We have experience with: C,
C++, Java, Javascript, Prolog, Haskell, SQL, PHP, CSS, HTML. We are hoping we 
could collaborate
and help the openoffice community with QA, translation, graphic design or 
programming
tasks, maybe 3-4 hours a week.


We would like to know if you are willing to cooperate with us
and if you could recommend any appropriate
tasks for us to work on? 




We
await your reply.


Best
reguards,

   Pedro
  

saving work

2014-03-14 Thread Etta's Gourmet Cookies


I have open office 4.0.1, for some strange reason the program is not saving my 
work! Any way you can help me?


Re: saving work

2014-03-14 Thread Chuck Davis
What platform are you working on?

Are you working in a document that has been loaded "read only"?  If so your
changes will not be saved.

If you're on Linux or Mac are you sure you have write permissions on the
directory where you are saving your work?




On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 9:29 AM, Etta's Gourmet Cookies
wrote:

>
>
> I have open office 4.0.1, for some strange reason the program is not
> saving my work! Any way you can help me?
>


Re: [RELEASE]: Beta downloads and feedback and a proposed way to the final

2014-03-14 Thread Kay Schenk
On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 1:30 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

> Hi,
>
> we have already >92,000 Beta downloads via SF, I can't say exactly how
> many full install sets and how many of them are language packs only. But
> I think the number is quite good we should be able to find serious
> problems if only 50% use the beta for some real testing under normal
> work conditions. But I don't know ...
>
> For now I haven't seen really serious problems which of course is good
> but maybe I have overseen something. Anyway if we don't get serious
> issues until March 30th I plan to prepare and provide the first final RC
> on the 31th. The vote will start immediately after the upload ...
>
> The idea is to have the AOO 4.1 is place for the ApacheCon (7.-.11.
> April) or even better announce it during the ApacheCon.
>
> Any opinions on this plan?
>
> Juergen
>
>
I don't know what the normal feedback expectation is for a beta release
like this, but this would provide 3 weeks and 3 weekends for testing, so
probably a reasonable plan.

I know we've already had some feedback on the "users" list, but we'll keep
monitoring things.


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hi

2014-03-14 Thread babu java
I am rajeev , from India.I read the readme_en-GB.txt file after installing
openoffice.So I want contribute my knowledge and effort for this
community.My technical knowledge
java,jdbc,servlet,jsp,hibernate,spring,jquery,ajax,json,gson.I am not an
employee of any company,I am a student.
Thank you


Re: openoffice.lst, can wJRE be deleted?

2014-03-14 Thread Raphael Bircher
Hi at all

I added the patch. Can someone review it?

Greetings Raphael

Am 14.03.2014 um 15:06 schrieb Raphael Bircher:

> Hi Andre
> 
> It's now Issue https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124432
> I found some other code related to wJRE in the code. I will prepare a patch.
> 
> Greetings Raphael
> 
> Am 14.03.2014 um 08:55 schrieb Andre Fischer:
> 
>> On 13.03.2014 23:15, Kay Schenk wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 03/13/2014 06:49 AM, Raphael Bircher wrote:
 Hi all
 
 In openoffice.lst there is still a configuration for the with JRE build. 
 We have anymor Builds with JRE, and I doubt that we will have in future. 
 The license of Java is not ALv2 compatible, right. So the question is, can 
 we delete this part?
 
 Greetings Raphael
>>> 
>>> I would think so unless others have a different opinion.
>> 
>> I agree that removing this entry from openoffice.lst is a good idea.
>> 
>> Raphael, do you want to do it or shall I?  I already have two modules on my 
>> to-remove list for Monday already.
>> 
>> -Andre
>> 
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Re: problem downloading last version

2014-03-14 Thread Marcus (OOo)

Am 03/14/2014 12:25 AM, schrieb Jorge Pavón Fernández:

I tried Trying to download the latest Spanish OO version 4.0.1 but the installer keeps 
saying it's beta 
4.1.0http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/milestones/4.1.0-beta/binaries/es/Apache_OpenOffice_Beta_4.1.0_Win_x86_install_es.exe/download?use_mirror=optimate&r=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.openoffice.org%2Fes%2Fdescargar%2F%3Futm_source%3DOOo3_3_es%26utm_medium%3DClient%26utm_campaign%3DUpgrade&use_mirror=optimate
nevertheless I finally found the right version 
at:http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html
I hope this report helps!
Jorge   


Thanks for the hint. This problem is fixed now. The Spanish download 
webpage should offer AOO 4.0.1 again.


Marcus

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Re: Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice website : wrong download link

2014-03-14 Thread Marcus (OOo)

Am 03/14/2014 02:23 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:

On 14/03/2014 Marcus (OOo) wrote:

Thanks for the hint. I've enhanced the German webpage to offer the Beta
Release additionally.


Now http://www.openoffice.org/it/download/ is serving the Beta too.
Could you fix it there too?

http://www.openoffice.org/es/descargar/ apparently has the same problem.


I've fixed it on the it, es and nl webpages. Any other languages that 
uses the One-Click-Download?



Note: it's not necessary that they offer 4.1.0-beta, the only thing to
fix is that they claim you will download 4.0.1 but they lead you to a
4.1.0-beta download (to be simply changed back to a 4.0.1 download).


OK but it wouldn't be a big effort to offer it additionally.


Marcus


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Re: [DOCUMENTATION] better installation guide - issue 124400 and issue 124408

2014-03-14 Thread Marcus (OOo)

Am 03/14/2014 08:20 AM, schrieb Oliver-Rainer Wittmann:

Hi,

On 13.03.2014 21:52, Marcus (OOo) wrote:

Am 03/13/2014 09:36 AM, schrieb Oliver-Rainer Wittmann:

Hi,

On 12.03.2014 21:15, Marcus (OOo) wrote:

Am 03/12/2014 12:30 PM, schrieb Oliver-Rainer Wittmann:

Hi,

Rainer recently noticed that our installation guides needs
improvement -
see issues 124343 and 124400.
I am volunteering to take corresponding actions. But I need support
and
feedback - I am neither a web designer nor a technical writer


I can support you with the webdesign. Maybe it's gets a bit hard
(when I
read Kay's mail ;-) ) but I would try.


Issue 124343:
This is about the visibility of the headings.
My suggestion here is to make the font used for the headings (all
levels) bold. Thus, I would like to propose to change our
corresponding
CSS [1].

Please provide feedback regarding my suggestion.


This is a central CSS file. Changes here would affect nearly all
webpages. This needs to be treated very carefully.


Does it makes sense to make more or less all headings on our website
bold?


No, I'm pretty sure here and there it wouldn't be the intended style.


Are there alternatives to improve the visibility of heading?
Should we make all heading italic or larger?


Again no. ;-)



Such a feedback does not help as you only say no, no, no, ... without
any alternative suggestion :-)


I'm sorry when you expected some code or else. But without looking
closer into the CSS styling I wouldn't do anything.



No, I do not expect any code.
Just feedback as you have given, but also alternative suggestions, when
my proposed changes are not your favorites.


I would start with improving the text content. Then we should think
about the formatting.


BTW:
This was my suggestion. Maybe you have overlooked it. ;-)


No, but I mad a mistake - see below.




What do you think?


Hm. We have issue 124343 for the formatting and issue 124400 for the
content.
Changing the words of a heading will not improve its visibility. Thus, I
think that these issues can be treated separately.


https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124400
Website: Installation guides: Headings do not look like headings

https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124343
Website: Bugzilla documentation: Headings do not look like headings

For me it's the same - just 2 different websites. I've adjusted the
issue summaries.



Damn, now I know what went wrong.
I referenced the wrong issues - I am sorry.

It is 124400 for the formatting on the installation guide website
and 124408 [1] for the content on the installation guide website.

That is why I was puzzled by your suggestion to 'start improving content
and then look on formatting'.


ah, got it. :-)


Thus, content and formatting of our installation guide is what I want to
work on

[1] https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124408 - Improve AOO
Installation Guide


With the content I think I cannot help. I've just Linux and my 
installation is just:


cd 
sudo rpm -ivh *

I don't care about icons, system integration as I don't use it anyway.

But I can work on the styling if it's OK.

My suggestion remains:

1. Improve the content.
2. Then we know the document structure.
3. Then we can improve the styling.

If there a good reasons, we can start to improve the styling earlier of 
course.


Marcus


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Re: [DOCUMENTATION] better installation guide - issue 124400 and issue 124408

2014-03-14 Thread Marcus (OOo)

OK, back to topic. Therefore top posting.

I was a bit curious. So, I did a little test.

The "instructions.html" file does not contain any references about CSS. 
So, I included the "styles.css" and "exceptions.css" files and looked at 
the local file --> It changed the layout.


Now I committed the file to the test area into staging and compared old 
[1] and new [2]. Now the headings can be identified as headings again.


If this is looking nice is a different topic. ;-)

[1] http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/common/instructions.html
[2] http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/instructions.html

Marcus



Am 03/14/2014 09:46 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):

Am 03/14/2014 08:20 AM, schrieb Oliver-Rainer Wittmann:

Hi,

On 13.03.2014 21:52, Marcus (OOo) wrote:

Am 03/13/2014 09:36 AM, schrieb Oliver-Rainer Wittmann:

Hi,

On 12.03.2014 21:15, Marcus (OOo) wrote:

Am 03/12/2014 12:30 PM, schrieb Oliver-Rainer Wittmann:

Hi,

Rainer recently noticed that our installation guides needs
improvement -
see issues 124343 and 124400.
I am volunteering to take corresponding actions. But I need support
and
feedback - I am neither a web designer nor a technical writer


I can support you with the webdesign. Maybe it's gets a bit hard
(when I
read Kay's mail ;-) ) but I would try.


Issue 124343:
This is about the visibility of the headings.
My suggestion here is to make the font used for the headings (all
levels) bold. Thus, I would like to propose to change our
corresponding
CSS [1].

Please provide feedback regarding my suggestion.


This is a central CSS file. Changes here would affect nearly all
webpages. This needs to be treated very carefully.


Does it makes sense to make more or less all headings on our website
bold?


No, I'm pretty sure here and there it wouldn't be the intended style.


Are there alternatives to improve the visibility of heading?
Should we make all heading italic or larger?


Again no. ;-)



Such a feedback does not help as you only say no, no, no, ... without
any alternative suggestion :-)


I'm sorry when you expected some code or else. But without looking
closer into the CSS styling I wouldn't do anything.



No, I do not expect any code.
Just feedback as you have given, but also alternative suggestions, when
my proposed changes are not your favorites.


I would start with improving the text content. Then we should think
about the formatting.


BTW:
This was my suggestion. Maybe you have overlooked it. ;-)


No, but I mad a mistake - see below.




What do you think?


Hm. We have issue 124343 for the formatting and issue 124400 for the
content.
Changing the words of a heading will not improve its visibility.
Thus, I
think that these issues can be treated separately.


https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124400
Website: Installation guides: Headings do not look like headings

https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124343
Website: Bugzilla documentation: Headings do not look like headings

For me it's the same - just 2 different websites. I've adjusted the
issue summaries.



Damn, now I know what went wrong.
I referenced the wrong issues - I am sorry.

It is 124400 for the formatting on the installation guide website
and 124408 [1] for the content on the installation guide website.

That is why I was puzzled by your suggestion to 'start improving content
and then look on formatting'.


ah, got it. :-)


Thus, content and formatting of our installation guide is what I want to
work on

[1] https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124408 - Improve AOO
Installation Guide


With the content I think I cannot help. I've just Linux and my
installation is just:

cd 
sudo rpm -ivh *

I don't care about icons, system integration as I don't use it anyway.

But I can work on the styling if it's OK.

My suggestion remains:

1. Improve the content.
2. Then we know the document structure.
3. Then we can improve the styling.

If there a good reasons, we can start to improve the styling earlier of
course.

Marcus


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Re: Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice website : wrong download link

2014-03-14 Thread Andrea Pescetti

Marcus (OOo) wrote:

I've fixed it on the it, es and nl webpages.


Thanks, I confirm it works now!


Any other languages that
uses the One-Click-Download?


http://www.openoffice.org/pt/download/ but apparently it already offers 
4.0.1 (correctly).


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice website : wrong download link

2014-03-14 Thread Marcus (OOo)

Am 03/14/2014 11:21 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:

Marcus (OOo) wrote:

I've fixed it on the it, es and nl webpages.


Thanks, I confirm it works now!


Any other languages that
uses the One-Click-Download?


I've changed the behaviour in the JS code only. So, I expected that it 
is then working on all webpages. But I'm asking just to be sure ...



http://www.openoffice.org/pt/download/ but apparently it already offers
4.0.1 (correctly).


Great

Marcus


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