Re: Checking update failed

2018-06-11 Thread Matthias Seidel
Am 12.06.2018 um 01:13 schrieb Pedro Lino:
>> On June 11, 2018 at 11:13 PM Matthias Seidel > mailto:matthias.sei...@hamburg.de > wrote:
>>
>>
>> Am 11.06.2018 um 23:40 schrieb Marcus:
>>
>> > > Am 08.06.2018 um 19:01 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>>> > > > The first bug report from a user:
 https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127789

 AOO update fails due to the non-responding servers (timeout?), 
 Extension
 update fails since SourceForge moved to the new datacenter 
 (missing
 protocol?).

 That said, I can reproduce the issue with AOO 4.1.5, while 
 everything
 works fine with AOO 4.2.0-dev (on Windows)

 > > with a previous version (e.g., 4.1.3) I get a message that 
 4.1.5 is
>>> available.
>>>
>>> So, it is actually a problem of SF.net that there is no hint that
>>> 4.1.5 is the current version and no newer updates are available?
>>>
>>> > 
>
> Curiously enough, according to Sourceforge the latest activity was 1 year 
> ago...
>
>
> https://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/?source=directory

You refer to "Project Activity"?

I couldn't figure out where that wrong information comes from or where
it can be updated...

Regards,
   Matthias

>
>
> I know AOO is not exactly very active but Sourceforge isn't helping either...
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Pedro
>




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Re: Checking update failed

2018-06-11 Thread Pedro Lino

> On June 11, 2018 at 11:13 PM Matthias Seidel  mailto:matthias.sei...@hamburg.de > wrote:
> 
> 
> Am 11.06.2018 um 23:40 schrieb Marcus:
> 
> > > Am 08.06.2018 um 19:01 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
> > 
> > > > > The first bug report from a user:
> > > https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127789
> > > 
> > > AOO update fails due to the non-responding servers 
> > > (timeout?), Extension
> > > update fails since SourceForge moved to the new datacenter 
> > > (missing
> > > protocol?).
> > > 
> > > That said, I can reproduce the issue with AOO 4.1.5, while 
> > > everything
> > > works fine with AOO 4.2.0-dev (on Windows)
> > > 
> > > > > with a previous version (e.g., 4.1.3) I get a message that 
> > > 4.1.5 is
> > available.
> > 
> > So, it is actually a problem of SF.net that there is no hint that
> > 4.1.5 is the current version and no newer updates are available?
> > 
> > > 


Curiously enough, according to Sourceforge the latest activity was 1 year ago...


https://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/?source=directory


I know AOO is not exactly very active but Sourceforge isn't helping either...


Regards,

Pedro


Re: Checking update failed

2018-06-11 Thread Matthias Seidel
Am 11.06.2018 um 23:40 schrieb Marcus:
> Am 08.06.2018 um 19:01 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>> The first bug report from a user:
>> https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127789
>>
>> AOO update fails due to the non-responding servers (timeout?), Extension
>> update fails since SourceForge moved to the new datacenter (missing
>> protocol?).
>>
>> That said, I can reproduce the issue with AOO 4.1.5, while everything
>> works fine with AOO 4.2.0-dev (on Windows)
>
> with a previous version (e.g., 4.1.3) I get a message that 4.1.5 is
> available.
>
> So, it is actually a problem of SF.net that there is no hint that
> 4.1.5 is the current version and no newer updates are available? 

You must differentiate between AOO updates and Extension updates...
AOO update feeds are hosted at Apache, those for the extensions at
SourceForge.

Let's concentrate on the AOO update issue (for the moment).
I just republished the update feed for AOO 4.1.5 (which didn't change
the behavior) [1].

This file is "empty" (in comparison to [2] ) and AOO 4.1.5 should only
tell you that it is up to date.
But the error message now is the same as if there is no file at all.

[1] https://ooo-updates.apache.org/aoo415/check.Update
[2] https://ooo-updates.apache.org/aoo413/check.Update

All this *did* work after the release of AOO 4.1.5 in December 2017.

Regards,
   Matthias

> Or is something missing in our update service?
>
> Marcus
>
>
>
>> Am 12.05.2018 um 11:39 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>>> Am 12.05.2018 um 11:32 schrieb Pedro Lino:
 No, only 2 servers responding. Server 40.79.78.1 is not responding.
>>> That's why I wrote "responding" ;-)
>>>
 So if you are unlucky you will always get "Error reading data from
 the Internet.
 Server error message: ."


 I get this message in AOO 4.1.5 two out of three tries...
>>> Last time I tried there were only 2 and every second try failed.
>>>
>>> Who wants to open a ticket with Infra?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>     Matthias
>>>

> On May 12, 2018 at 9:32 AM Matthias Seidel
> mailto:matthias.sei...@hamburg.de >
> wrote:
>
>
>  Hi Pedro,
>
>  I repeated ping, now we have 3 servers "responding":
>
>  ping ooo-updates.apache.org
>  PING ooo-updates.apache.org (195.154.151.36) 56(84) bytes of
> data.
>  64 bytes from tlp-eu-west.apache.org (195.154.151.36):
> icmp_seq=1 ttl=50
>  time=34.0 ms
>  64 bytes from tlp-eu-west.apache.org (195.154.151.36):
> icmp_seq=2 ttl=50
>  time=33.9 ms
>  64 bytes from tlp-eu-west.apache.org (195.154.151.36):
> icmp_seq=3 ttl=50
>  time=36.7 ms
>
>  ping ooo-updates.apache.org
>  PING ooo-updates.apache.org (140.211.11.105) 56(84) bytes of
> data.
>  64 bytes from themis.apache.org (140.211.11.105): icmp_seq=1
> ttl=42
>  time=182 ms
>  64 bytes from themis.apache.org (140.211.11.105): icmp_seq=2
> ttl=42
>  time=181 ms
>  64 bytes from themis.apache.org (140.211.11.105): icmp_seq=3
> ttl=42
>  time=181 ms
>
>  ping ooo-updates.apache.org
>  PING ooo-updates.apache.org (40.79.78.1) 56(84) bytes of data.
>  ^C
>  --- ooo-updates.apache.org ping statistics ---
>  3 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 2034ms
>
>
>  Regards,
>
>     Matthias
>
>
>  Am 12.05.2018 um 08:28 schrieb Pedro Lino:
>
>  > > I had replied earlier but directly to the OP.
>>  >
>  > > Something is very wrong on the Apache server
>>  > >
>  > > ping ooo-updates.apache.org
>>  PING ooo-updates.apache.org (40.79.78.1) 56(84) bytes of
>> data.
>>  ^C
>>  --- ooo-updates.apache.org ping statistics ---
>>  108 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss,
>> time 106999ms
>>
>>  > >
>  > > There is no connection. The OS is irrelevant.
>>  > >
>  >> On May 11, 2018 at 9:49 PM Matthias Seidel
> mailto:matthias.sei...@hamburg.de
> mailto:matthias.sei...@hamburg.de
> mailto:matthias.sei...@hamburg.de > wrote:
>  >>
>  >>
>  >> Am 11.05.2018 um 09:56 schrieb FR web forum:
>  >>
>  >> > > Hello list,
>  >>> >
>  >> > > I have an old 4.1.2 build.
>  >>> I run Help > Check for update... menu
>  >>> Status: failed
>  >>> Error reading data from the internet
>  >>> I am alone with this error?
>  >>>
>  >>> > No, you are not alone... ;-)
>  >> Normally it works for me (4.1.5 on Ubuntu) if I do a
> second check.
>  >>
>  >> See:
> https://www.mail-archive.com/dev@openoffice.apache.org/msg33425.html
>  >>
>  >> What OS are you on?
>  >>
>  >> Regards,
>>

Re: Checking update failed

2018-06-11 Thread Marcus

Am 08.06.2018 um 19:01 schrieb Matthias Seidel:

The first bug report from a user:
https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127789

AOO update fails due to the non-responding servers (timeout?), Extension
update fails since SourceForge moved to the new datacenter (missing
protocol?).

That said, I can reproduce the issue with AOO 4.1.5, while everything
works fine with AOO 4.2.0-dev (on Windows)


with a previous version (e.g., 4.1.3) I get a message that 4.1.5 is 
available.


So, it is actually a problem of SF.net that there is no hint that 4.1.5 
is the current version and no newer updates are available? Or is 
something missing in our update service?


Marcus




Am 12.05.2018 um 11:39 schrieb Matthias Seidel:

Am 12.05.2018 um 11:32 schrieb Pedro Lino:

No, only 2 servers responding. Server 40.79.78.1 is not responding.

That's why I wrote "responding" ;-)


So if you are unlucky you will always get "Error reading data from the Internet.
Server error message: ."


I get this message in AOO 4.1.5 two out of three tries...

Last time I tried there were only 2 and every second try failed.

Who wants to open a ticket with Infra?

Regards,
    Matthias




On May 12, 2018 at 9:32 AM Matthias Seidel mailto:matthias.sei...@hamburg.de > wrote:


 Hi Pedro,

 I repeated ping, now we have 3 servers "responding":

 ping ooo-updates.apache.org
 PING ooo-updates.apache.org (195.154.151.36) 56(84) bytes of data.
 64 bytes from tlp-eu-west.apache.org (195.154.151.36): icmp_seq=1 ttl=50
 time=34.0 ms
 64 bytes from tlp-eu-west.apache.org (195.154.151.36): icmp_seq=2 ttl=50
 time=33.9 ms
 64 bytes from tlp-eu-west.apache.org (195.154.151.36): icmp_seq=3 ttl=50
 time=36.7 ms

 ping ooo-updates.apache.org
 PING ooo-updates.apache.org (140.211.11.105) 56(84) bytes of data.
 64 bytes from themis.apache.org (140.211.11.105): icmp_seq=1 ttl=42
 time=182 ms
 64 bytes from themis.apache.org (140.211.11.105): icmp_seq=2 ttl=42
 time=181 ms
 64 bytes from themis.apache.org (140.211.11.105): icmp_seq=3 ttl=42
 time=181 ms

 ping ooo-updates.apache.org
 PING ooo-updates.apache.org (40.79.78.1) 56(84) bytes of data.
 ^C
 --- ooo-updates.apache.org ping statistics ---
 3 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 2034ms


 Regards,

Matthias


 Am 12.05.2018 um 08:28 schrieb Pedro Lino:

 > > I had replied earlier but directly to the OP.

 >

 > > Something is very wrong on the Apache server

 > >

 > > ping ooo-updates.apache.org

 PING ooo-updates.apache.org (40.79.78.1) 56(84) bytes of data.
 ^C
 --- ooo-updates.apache.org ping statistics ---
 108 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 106999ms

 > >

 > > There is no connection. The OS is irrelevant.

 > >

 >> On May 11, 2018 at 9:49 PM Matthias Seidel mailto:matthias.sei...@hamburg.de mailto:matthias.sei...@hamburg.de 
mailto:matthias.sei...@hamburg.de > wrote:
 >>
 >>
 >> Am 11.05.2018 um 09:56 schrieb FR web forum:
 >>
 >> > > Hello list,
 >>> >
 >> > > I have an old 4.1.2 build.
 >>> I run Help > Check for update... menu
 >>> Status: failed
 >>> Error reading data from the internet
 >>> I am alone with this error?
 >>>
 >>> > No, you are not alone... ;-)
 >> Normally it works for me (4.1.5 on Ubuntu) if I do a second check.
 >>
 >> See: 
https://www.mail-archive.com/dev@openoffice.apache.org/msg33425.html
 >>
 >> What OS are you on?
 >>
 >> Regards,
 >> Matthias



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[Help] Instructions on translating Websites

2018-06-11 Thread Matthias Seidel
Hi Keith,

I think the process described on that page is still accurate.

But although volunteers are willing to translate the pages, most of them
are not committers nor do they have knowledge in subversion.

So, what I did in the past (for several pages) was to give the volunteer
a list of strings (extracted from the website) and they sent it back
translated. Then I put the strings in the page and submitted it.

However this generates a lot of work and it would be great if we find a
way to simplify the process...

Regards,

   Matthias


Am 11.06.2018 um 17:23 schrieb Keith N. McKenna:
> Occasionally inquiries are received both here and on l10@ about
> translating our websites. I found instructions at the Project website
> (https://openoffice.apache.org/website-native.html) and would request
> someone more knowledgeable with the process to review them as to whether
> they are still accurate.
>
> If they are or can be made so, it can be used as a starting point to
> answer these inquiries. I am very willing to make whatever changes to
> the page that are required, I am just not familiar enough with the
> intricacies of the process to judge whether  they are accurate or even
> still recommended.
>
> Regards
> Keith
>




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Re: [Help] Instructions on translating Websites

2018-06-11 Thread Marcus

Am 11.06.2018 um 17:23 schrieb Keith N. McKenna:

Occasionally inquiries are received both here and on l10@ about
translating our websites. I found instructions at the Project website
(https://openoffice.apache.org/website-native.html) and would request
someone more knowledgeable with the process to review them as to whether
they are still accurate.

If they are or can be made so, it can be used as a starting point to
answer these inquiries. I am very willing to make whatever changes to
the page that are required, I am just not familiar enough with the
intricacies of the process to judge whether  they are accurate or even
still recommended.


we have created a little template system for the webpages that can be 
translated if there is a need:


https://www.openoffice.org/xx/index.html

It should be easy to grab them together from SVN and send them by mail 
to volunteers.


@Matthias:
Do you have some experience or already a prepared zip file?

Thanks

Marcus


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Re: [Help] Instructions on translating Websites

2018-06-11 Thread FR web forum
The best way would to have Pootle to help this translation.
1) Extract all strings from EN website
2) Create a specific project in Pootle
3) Set as PO file for each languages
4) Convert all html files into php to get these strings

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> De: "Keith N. McKenna" 
> À: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> Envoyé: Lundi 11 Juin 2018 17:23:26
> Objet: [Help] Instructions on translating Websites
> 
> Occasionally inquiries are received both here and on l10@ about
> translating our websites. I found instructions at the Project website
> (https://openoffice.apache.org/website-native.html) and would request
> someone more knowledgeable with the process to review them as to
> whether
> they are still accurate.
> 
> If they are or can be made so, it can be used as a starting point to
> answer these inquiries. I am very willing to make whatever changes to
> the page that are required, I am just not familiar enough with the
> intricacies of the process to judge whether  they are accurate or
> even
> still recommended.
> 
> Regards
> Keith
> 
> 

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[Help] Instructions on translating Websites

2018-06-11 Thread Keith N. McKenna
Occasionally inquiries are received both here and on l10@ about
translating our websites. I found instructions at the Project website
(https://openoffice.apache.org/website-native.html) and would request
someone more knowledgeable with the process to review them as to whether
they are still accurate.

If they are or can be made so, it can be used as a starting point to
answer these inquiries. I am very willing to make whatever changes to
the page that are required, I am just not familiar enough with the
intricacies of the process to judge whether  they are accurate or even
still recommended.

Regards
Keith



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