Re: Time for our first 4.2.0 beta?
Release, as in GA, or release as in Beta? > On Feb 15, 2019, at 4:55 AM, Damjan Jovanovic wrote: > > Bug 125129 looks like a wild goose chase and requires considerable > understanding of the framework layer, but I'll try continue when I have > time. > > My own release checklist would include: > 1. Library audit. > 1.1 Did we lose or gain any public symbols in our libraries since the > 4.1.0? Gbuild requires explicit export instead of exporting everything and > then possibly controlling visibility with a .map file, so it's very > possible. > 1.2 Did ELF symbol versions on *nix platforms change? The older gbuild > modules probably did, as I didn't understand the meaning of .map files back > then. > 1.3 Are the same libraries with the same names available in both 4.1.0 and > 4.2.0? > 2. Base: > 2.1 Complete the Java SDBC driver framework, used by both the new SDBC-JDBC > bridge and the Postgres SDBC driver. > 2.2 Audit the new SDBC-JDBC bridge in Java against the old C++ one, fix any > differences. > 2.3 Complete the Postgres SDBC driver; still needs views, users, groups, > etc. > 2.4 Complete the integration of the Postgres SDBC driver into the Base UI > forms (like MySQL already is). > 3. Crashreporter > 3.1 Get it working again. > 3.2 Bug reported in UI form (instead of submitted to some now obsolete > server), which can be copied/pasted or attached to Bugzilla. > 4. Testing > 4.1 Run all available tests (unit tests, smoketest, module integration > tests, bvt, fvt, etc.) against 4.1.0 and 4.2.0, find and fix any > regressions. > > Damjan > > > On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 1:25 AM Matthias Seidel > wrote: > >> Hi Jim, >> >> IMO, the situation hasn't changed so much. >> >> We should at least fix issue 125129 [1] before we release a (public) >> beta. I have seen that Damjan is investigating... >> >> Then we need time to inform translators on l10n@ before we can export >> the latest translations from Pootle. >> At the moment most of them are at 98% for the UI but the SDF files still >> need to be updated in source. >> >> Regards, >> >> Matthias >> >> [1] https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=125129 >> >> >> Am 14.02.19 um 17:45 schrieb Jim Jagielski: >>> Time for another ping... what does everyone think? Time? >>> >>> - >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org >>> >>> >> >> - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Time for our first 4.2.0 beta?
Hi Rory, Am 15.02.19 um 11:22 schrieb Rory O'Farrell: > On Fri, 15 Feb 2019 11:55:32 +0200 > Damjan Jovanovic wrote: > >> Bug 125129 looks like a wild goose chase and requires considerable >> understanding of the framework layer, but I'll try continue when I have >> time. > A quick experiment with Writer in 4.2.0 shows me that one cannot insert a > background fill (Area tab) when making a frame, but one can subsequently > select the frame and then insert the background. > > Also, the Frame toolbar does not show onscreen for me, so I am unable to > attempt Linking frames, whether empty or with background fill. Using /View > /Toolbars : Frame turns off the Formatting toolbar, but does not display the > Frame toolbar. I am reasonably sure the Frame toolbar is not anywhere on my > desktop (several monitors in use - checked it is not hidden behind anything). I have seen this "hidden" toolbar on Linux (with a fresh profile) but never could reproduce it on Windows. However, Revision 1853741 should fix it. > (I am using AOO420m1(Build:9800) - Rev. 1851640 > 2019-01-19 15:48:21 (Sat, 19 Jan 2019) - Linux x86_64 [Apache OpenOffice Test > Development Build] running on Xubuntu 18.04.02 64 bit) > > I don't currently use Frames in any of my works in progress, so this is not a > matter of any urgency for me. > > I am of course ready to try any interim version (whether public or private) > to examine any change in this or other problems. You can try a build from our buildbot: https://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/install/41x/ Regards, Matthias > smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: Time for our first 4.2.0 beta?
On Mon, 18 Feb 2019 16:00:20 +0100 Matthias Seidel wrote: > Hi Rory, > > Am 15.02.19 um 11:22 schrieb Rory O'Farrell: > > On Fri, 15 Feb 2019 11:55:32 +0200 > > Damjan Jovanovic wrote: > > > >> Bug 125129 looks like a wild goose chase and requires considerable > >> understanding of the framework layer, but I'll try continue when I have > >> time. > > A quick experiment with Writer in 4.2.0 shows me that one cannot insert a > > background fill (Area tab) when making a frame, but one can subsequently > > select the frame and then insert the background. > > > > Also, the Frame toolbar does not show onscreen for me, so I am unable to > > attempt Linking frames, whether empty or with background fill. Using /View > > /Toolbars : Frame turns off the Formatting toolbar, but does not display > > the Frame toolbar. I am reasonably sure the Frame toolbar is not anywhere > > on my desktop (several monitors in use - checked it is not hidden behind > > anything). > > I have seen this "hidden" toolbar on Linux (with a fresh profile) but > never could reproduce it on Windows. > > However, Revision 1853741 should fix it. OK, downloading now - will try this over next few days, but little time until later in the week. Rory > > > (I am using AOO420m1(Build:9800) - Rev. 1851640 > > 2019-01-19 15:48:21 (Sat, 19 Jan 2019) - Linux x86_64 [Apache OpenOffice > > Test Development Build] running on Xubuntu 18.04.02 64 bit) > > > > I don't currently use Frames in any of my works in progress, so this is not > > a matter of any urgency for me. > > > > I am of course ready to try any interim version (whether public or private) > > to examine any change in this or other problems. > > You can try a build from our buildbot: > https://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/install/41x/ > > Regards, > > Matthias > > > > -- Rory O'Farrell - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Time for our first 4.2.0 beta?
On Mon, 18 Feb 2019 15:08:09 + Rory O'Farrell wrote: > On Mon, 18 Feb 2019 16:00:20 +0100 > Matthias Seidel wrote: > > > Hi Rory, > > > > Am 15.02.19 um 11:22 schrieb Rory O'Farrell: > > > On Fri, 15 Feb 2019 11:55:32 +0200 > > > Damjan Jovanovic wrote: > > > > > >> Bug 125129 looks like a wild goose chase and requires considerable > > >> understanding of the framework layer, but I'll try continue when I have > > >> time. > > > A quick experiment with Writer in 4.2.0 shows me that one cannot insert a > > > background fill (Area tab) when making a frame, but one can subsequently > > > select the frame and then insert the background. > > > > > > Also, the Frame toolbar does not show onscreen for me, so I am unable to > > > attempt Linking frames, whether empty or with background fill. Using > > > /View /Toolbars : Frame turns off the Formatting toolbar, but does not > > > display the Frame toolbar. I am reasonably sure the Frame toolbar is not > > > anywhere on my desktop (several monitors in use - checked it is not > > > hidden behind anything). > > > > I have seen this "hidden" toolbar on Linux (with a fresh profile) but > > never could reproduce it on Windows. > > > > However, Revision 1853741 should fix it. OK, on AOO420m1(Build:9820) - Rev. 1853744 2019-02-17_20:20:13 - Rev. 1853770 just now installed (old profile used): The Frame toolbar shows on Linux deb 64 when a frame is selected. I can link frames OK. However, I cannot insert a background (Area) fill when defining a frame. The system hangs, then crashes. The old linux trick of starting openoffice4 in a terminal does not give any diagnostic information after such a crash. I can, once a frame is made, select it and change the background (Area) colour. If a frame has had a background inserted after making the frame, its linking to another frame is uncertain - the background colour is sometimes treated as frame content and linking is not permitted; however, the logic of "content" in a frame probably ought be inserted content such as text or illustration, not structural content such as a background colour generated at frame make time; but until a frame can have such content generated at frame make time, one cannot experiment in any detail. Rory > > > OK, downloading now - will try this over next few days, but little time until > later in the week. > > Rory > > > > > > (I am using AOO420m1(Build:9800) - Rev. 1851640 > > > 2019-01-19 15:48:21 (Sat, 19 Jan 2019) - Linux x86_64 [Apache OpenOffice > > > Test Development Build] running on Xubuntu 18.04.02 64 bit) > > > > > > I don't currently use Frames in any of my works in progress, so this is > > > not a matter of any urgency for me. > > > > > > I am of course ready to try any interim version (whether public or > > > private) to examine any change in this or other problems. > > > > You can try a build from our buildbot: > > https://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/install/41x/ > > > > Regards, > > > > Matthias > > > > > > > > > > -- > Rory O'Farrell > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > -- Rory O'Farrell - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Time for our first 4.2.0 beta?
Hi Rory, Am 18.02.19 um 16:53 schrieb Rory O'Farrell: > On Mon, 18 Feb 2019 15:08:09 + > Rory O'Farrell wrote: > >> On Mon, 18 Feb 2019 16:00:20 +0100 >> Matthias Seidel wrote: >> >>> Hi Rory, >>> >>> Am 15.02.19 um 11:22 schrieb Rory O'Farrell: On Fri, 15 Feb 2019 11:55:32 +0200 Damjan Jovanovic wrote: > Bug 125129 looks like a wild goose chase and requires considerable > understanding of the framework layer, but I'll try continue when I have > time. A quick experiment with Writer in 4.2.0 shows me that one cannot insert a background fill (Area tab) when making a frame, but one can subsequently select the frame and then insert the background. Also, the Frame toolbar does not show onscreen for me, so I am unable to attempt Linking frames, whether empty or with background fill. Using /View /Toolbars : Frame turns off the Formatting toolbar, but does not display the Frame toolbar. I am reasonably sure the Frame toolbar is not anywhere on my desktop (several monitors in use - checked it is not hidden behind anything). >>> I have seen this "hidden" toolbar on Linux (with a fresh profile) but >>> never could reproduce it on Windows. >>> >>> However, Revision 1853741 should fix it. > OK, on > AOO420m1(Build:9820) - Rev. 1853744 > 2019-02-17_20:20:13 - Rev. 1853770 > > just now installed (old profile used): The Frame toolbar shows on Linux deb > 64 when a frame is selected. I can link frames OK. However, I cannot insert > a background (Area) fill when defining a frame. The system hangs, then > crashes. The old linux trick of starting openoffice4 in a terminal does not > give any diagnostic information after such a crash. You mix up two separate issues here... I only fixed the hidden toolbar. The crash is well known and documented: https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=125129 Regards, Matthias > > I can, once a frame is made, select it and change the background (Area) > colour. If a frame has had a background inserted after making the frame, its > linking to another frame is uncertain - the background colour is sometimes > treated as frame content and linking is not permitted; however, the logic of > "content" in a frame probably ought be inserted content such as text or > illustration, not structural content such as a background colour generated at > frame make time; but until a frame can have such content generated at frame > make time, one cannot experiment in any detail. > > Rory >> >> OK, downloading now - will try this over next few days, but little time >> until later in the week. >> >> Rory >> (I am using AOO420m1(Build:9800) - Rev. 1851640 2019-01-19 15:48:21 (Sat, 19 Jan 2019) - Linux x86_64 [Apache OpenOffice Test Development Build] running on Xubuntu 18.04.02 64 bit) I don't currently use Frames in any of my works in progress, so this is not a matter of any urgency for me. I am of course ready to try any interim version (whether public or private) to examine any change in this or other problems. >>> You can try a build from our buildbot: >>> https://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/install/41x/ >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Matthias >>> >> >> -- >> Rory O'Farrell >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org >> >> > smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: Time for our first 4.2.0 beta?
On Mon, 18 Feb 2019 16:58:38 +0100 Matthias Seidel wrote: > Hi Rory, > > Am 18.02.19 um 16:53 schrieb Rory O'Farrell: > > On Mon, 18 Feb 2019 15:08:09 + > > Rory O'Farrell wrote: > > > >> On Mon, 18 Feb 2019 16:00:20 +0100 > >> Matthias Seidel wrote: > >> > >>> Hi Rory, > >>> > >>> Am 15.02.19 um 11:22 schrieb Rory O'Farrell: > On Fri, 15 Feb 2019 11:55:32 +0200 > Damjan Jovanovic wrote: > > > Bug 125129 looks like a wild goose chase and requires considerable > > understanding of the framework layer, but I'll try continue when I have > > time. > A quick experiment with Writer in 4.2.0 shows me that one cannot insert > a background fill (Area tab) when making a frame, but one can > subsequently select the frame and then insert the background. > > Also, the Frame toolbar does not show onscreen for me, so I am unable to > attempt Linking frames, whether empty or with background fill. Using > /View /Toolbars : Frame turns off the Formatting toolbar, but does not > display the Frame toolbar. I am reasonably sure the Frame toolbar is > not anywhere on my desktop (several monitors in use - checked it is not > hidden behind anything). > >>> I have seen this "hidden" toolbar on Linux (with a fresh profile) but > >>> never could reproduce it on Windows. > >>> > >>> However, Revision 1853741 should fix it. > > OK, on > > AOO420m1(Build:9820) - Rev. 1853744 > > 2019-02-17_20:20:13 - Rev. 1853770 > > > > just now installed (old profile used): The Frame toolbar shows on Linux deb > > 64 when a frame is selected. I can link frames OK. However, I cannot > > insert a background (Area) fill when defining a frame. The system hangs, > > then crashes. The old linux trick of starting openoffice4 in a terminal > > does not give any diagnostic information after such a crash. > > You mix up two separate issues here... > > I only fixed the hidden toolbar. The crash is well known and documented: > https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=125129 > > Regards, > > Matthias Thanks - I understand that; however, it is probably useful to note the continued existence of other problems concerned with a limited area of functionality - in this case, frames. Rory > > > > > I can, once a frame is made, select it and change the background (Area) > > colour. If a frame has had a background inserted after making the frame, > > its linking to another frame is uncertain - the background colour is > > sometimes treated as frame content and linking is not permitted; however, > > the logic of "content" in a frame probably ought be inserted content such > > as text or illustration, not structural content such as a background colour > > generated at frame make time; but until a frame can have such content > > generated at frame make time, one cannot experiment in any detail. > > > > Rory > >> > >> OK, downloading now - will try this over next few days, but little time > >> until later in the week. > >> > >> Rory > >> > (I am using AOO420m1(Build:9800) - Rev. 1851640 > 2019-01-19 15:48:21 (Sat, 19 Jan 2019) - Linux x86_64 [Apache OpenOffice > Test Development Build] running on Xubuntu 18.04.02 64 bit) > > I don't currently use Frames in any of my works in progress, so this is > not a matter of any urgency for me. > > I am of course ready to try any interim version (whether public or > private) to examine any change in this or other problems. > >>> You can try a build from our buildbot: > >>> https://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/install/41x/ > >>> > >>> Regards, > >>> > >>> Matthias > >>> > >> > >> -- > >> Rory O'Farrell > >> > >> - > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > >> > >> > > > -- Rory O'Farrell - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Time for our first 4.2.0 beta?
Hi Rory, Am 18.02.19 um 17:07 schrieb Rory O'Farrell: > On Mon, 18 Feb 2019 16:58:38 +0100 > Matthias Seidel wrote: > >> Hi Rory, >> >> Am 18.02.19 um 16:53 schrieb Rory O'Farrell: >>> On Mon, 18 Feb 2019 15:08:09 + >>> Rory O'Farrell wrote: >>> On Mon, 18 Feb 2019 16:00:20 +0100 Matthias Seidel wrote: > Hi Rory, > > Am 15.02.19 um 11:22 schrieb Rory O'Farrell: >> On Fri, 15 Feb 2019 11:55:32 +0200 >> Damjan Jovanovic wrote: >> >>> Bug 125129 looks like a wild goose chase and requires considerable >>> understanding of the framework layer, but I'll try continue when I have >>> time. >> A quick experiment with Writer in 4.2.0 shows me that one cannot insert >> a background fill (Area tab) when making a frame, but one can >> subsequently select the frame and then insert the background. >> >> Also, the Frame toolbar does not show onscreen for me, so I am unable to >> attempt Linking frames, whether empty or with background fill. Using >> /View /Toolbars : Frame turns off the Formatting toolbar, but does not >> display the Frame toolbar. I am reasonably sure the Frame toolbar is >> not anywhere on my desktop (several monitors in use - checked it is not >> hidden behind anything). > I have seen this "hidden" toolbar on Linux (with a fresh profile) but > never could reproduce it on Windows. > > However, Revision 1853741 should fix it. >>> OK, on >>> AOO420m1(Build:9820) - Rev. 1853744 >>> 2019-02-17_20:20:13 - Rev. 1853770 >>> >>> just now installed (old profile used): The Frame toolbar shows on Linux deb >>> 64 when a frame is selected. I can link frames OK. However, I cannot >>> insert a background (Area) fill when defining a frame. The system hangs, >>> then crashes. The old linux trick of starting openoffice4 in a terminal >>> does not give any diagnostic information after such a crash. >> You mix up two separate issues here... >> >> I only fixed the hidden toolbar. The crash is well known and documented: >> https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=125129 >> >> Regards, >> >> Matthias > Thanks - I understand that; however, it is probably useful to note the > continued existence of other problems concerned with a limited area of > functionality - in this case, frames. That's what Bugzilla is for... ;-) It is even flagged as a release blocker. Matthias > > Rory > >>> I can, once a frame is made, select it and change the background (Area) >>> colour. If a frame has had a background inserted after making the frame, >>> its linking to another frame is uncertain - the background colour is >>> sometimes treated as frame content and linking is not permitted; however, >>> the logic of "content" in a frame probably ought be inserted content such >>> as text or illustration, not structural content such as a background colour >>> generated at frame make time; but until a frame can have such content >>> generated at frame make time, one cannot experiment in any detail. >>> >>> Rory OK, downloading now - will try this over next few days, but little time until later in the week. Rory >> (I am using AOO420m1(Build:9800) - Rev. 1851640 >> 2019-01-19 15:48:21 (Sat, 19 Jan 2019) - Linux x86_64 [Apache OpenOffice >> Test Development Build] running on Xubuntu 18.04.02 64 bit) >> >> I don't currently use Frames in any of my works in progress, so this is >> not a matter of any urgency for me. >> >> I am of course ready to try any interim version (whether public or >> private) to examine any change in this or other problems. > You can try a build from our buildbot: > https://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/install/41x/ > > Regards, > > Matthias > -- Rory O'Farrell - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
