Re: Proposals
Hi Marcus, all > On 09/09/2020 6:31 PM Marcus wrote: > Or start a new vote that includes all proposed logos. Then it's up to > the vote starter to collect all proposed logos upfront. ;-) I have hacked an image that I hope can be agreed upon or modified rapidly to reach agreement https://raw.githubusercontent.com/pedlino/pedlino.github.io/master/openoffice_mod.png 1) Uses open-source as mentioned in Merriam-Webster (and in this context it is an adjective) 2) Uses a more lively color (#FF6000) 3) Adds the word Free (which seems relevant) 4) The added text is isolated by an ellipse 5) The font used is Source Sans Pro (v3) 13pt Italic which is freely available on Github https://github.com/adobe-fonts/source-sans-pro 6) It is available as an SVG so it can be edited and translated (although I think it is not possible to include a translated logo per language and starting l10n for this would definitely stop the release) https://raw.githubusercontent.com/pedlino/pedlino.github.io/master/openoffice_mod.svg If this proposal is more consensual I could stop the current vote and start a new one with the current proposals including this one (or any one that is agreed upon) Regards, Pedro - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [vote] Logo for About dialog in 4.1.8 [was: Re: About 20th anniversary plans]
Am 08.09.20 um 19:10 schrieb Pedro Lino: On 09/08/2020 3:11 PM Matthias Seidel wrote: I am still not sure what I should vote for/against? The graphic (which one)? Or committing it to branch 418? I call for a vote on the usage of this image https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/about_20yrs.png on the About dialog of version 4.1.8 (to be released during the 20th Anniversary celebration) I propose that it is committed to branch 4.1.8 in location main/default_images/introabout to replace the current about.png +1 Maybe Matthias has the time to delete the dash if it's really wrong. If not then it's also OK for me. Marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: we are a ASF-project
Am 09.09.20 um 20:39 schrieb Jörg Schmidt: -Original Message- From: Marcus [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de] Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2020 8:15 PM To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: we are a ASF-project Am 09.09.20 um 20:00 schrieb Jörg Schmidt: Even "open source" vs. "open-source" has already been discussed in June. So you think it is in the interest of the ASF if one of its projects uses a different spelling than the ASF itself? I understand your statement as a provocation. So, what do you want to reach with this? I don't want to achieve anything with it, because I can't achieve anything formally with it, because the discussion is closed. I just point out to all of us that it seems to me a strange procedure to discuss spelling. [...] Marcus, things are much easier than you think. I know that in German the spelling of "Open Source" vs. "Open-Source" vs. "OpenSource" is quite controversial. Far less is (or: seems to me) controversial in English and so the spelling "open-source" caught my eye. but you make it s complicated. Also the lenght of your mail is not suitable just to express that a single character - the dash ( - ) - is in your eye too much or not correct. Marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Reporting broken download link
Hi all, FYI, since Anita seems to be German speaking, I wrote her per a PM and gave some advice. Some days later I wrote a second time and asked if she could now install. I am still waiting for an answer. Regards, Matthias Am 06.09.20 um 18:45 schrieb Matthias Seidel: > Hi Dave, > > Thanks! > > Error 1500. Isn't that quite common on Windows? > > Regards, > > Matthias > > Am 06.09.20 um 17:10 schrieb Moderator: >> On 06/09/2020 15:42, Matthias Seidel wrote: >>> Hi all, >>> >>> Can a moderator see the attachment? >>> >>> I suspect that Quickstarter is running and the install complains about a >>> running process... >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Matthias >> Hi Matthias, >> >> My bad German -> English translation of the 2 dialog screen captures: >> === >> Error 1500. Another installation is being carried out. You must complete >> that installation before proceeding with this. >> | Repeat | Abort | >> === >> The second shows AOO 4.1.7 being installed. >> >> A copy of the capture is available here: >> http://www.mediafire.com/view/8bi00jdbngpddak/Anni_Capture.png/file >> >> Regards >> >> Dave >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org >> smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: [vote] Logo for About dialog in 4.1.8 [was: Re: About 20th anniversary plans]
+1 - this logo fits the current layout of the About box and can be properly adapted for the Startup Screen. Personally I prefer “open source” to “open-source”, but I don’t care to disrupt. A three line version would be: free and open-source for 20 years Regards, Dave > On Sep 9, 2020, at 11:51 AM, Mechtilde wrote: > > +1 for all points (binding) > > Am 08.09.20 um 19:10 schrieb Pedro Lino: >> Hi Matthias, all >> >>> On 09/08/2020 3:11 PM Matthias Seidel wrote: >> >>> I am still not sure what I should vote for/against? >>> >>> The graphic (which one)? Or committing it to branch 418? >> >> I call for a vote on the usage of this image >> https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/about_20yrs.png >> >> on the About dialog of version 4.1.8 (to be released during the 20th >> Anniversary celebration) >> >> I propose that it is committed to branch 4.1.8 in location >> main/default_images/introabout >> to replace the current about.png >> >> Regards, >> Pedro >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org >> > > -- > Mechtilde Stehmann > ## Apache OpenOffice > ## Freie Office Suite für Linux, MacOSX, Windows und OS/2 > ## Debian Developer > ## PGP encryption welcome > ## F0E3 7F3D C87A 4998 2899 39E7 F287 7BBA 141A AD7F > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
RE: [vote] Logo for About dialog in 4.1.8 [was: Re: About 20th anniversary plans]
> -Original Message- > From: Mechtilde [mailto:o...@mechtilde.de] > Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2020 8:52 PM > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: [vote] Logo for About dialog in 4.1.8 [was: Re: > About 20th anniversary plans] > > +1 for all points (binding) You think this is a vote for PMC members? Or what else do you want to express _at this point_ with "binding"? I think we are here, in this specific case, in a vote where all votes have the same weight. Yes, I think that this remark is necessary, because it would be possible to insist on "binding", but this was not announced and should not be done during the vote. Jörg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [vote] Logo for About dialog in 4.1.8 [was: Re: About 20th anniversary plans]
+1 for all points (binding) Am 08.09.20 um 19:10 schrieb Pedro Lino: > Hi Matthias, all > >> On 09/08/2020 3:11 PM Matthias Seidel wrote: > >> I am still not sure what I should vote for/against? >> >> The graphic (which one)? Or committing it to branch 418? > > I call for a vote on the usage of this image > https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/about_20yrs.png > > on the About dialog of version 4.1.8 (to be released during the 20th > Anniversary celebration) > > I propose that it is committed to branch 4.1.8 in location > main/default_images/introabout > to replace the current about.png > > Regards, > Pedro > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > -- Mechtilde Stehmann ## Apache OpenOffice ## Freie Office Suite für Linux, MacOSX, Windows und OS/2 ## Debian Developer ## PGP encryption welcome ## F0E3 7F3D C87A 4998 2899 39E7 F287 7BBA 141A AD7F signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
RE: we are a ASF-project
> -Original Message- > From: Matthias Seidel [mailto:matthias.sei...@hamburg.de] > Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2020 8:21 PM > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: we are a ASF-project > > Am 09.09.20 um 20:15 schrieb Marcus: > > Am 09.09.20 um 20:00 schrieb Jörg Schmidt: > >>> Even "open source" vs. "open-source" has already been > >>> discussed in June. > >> > >> So you think it is in the interest of the ASF if one of > its projects > >> uses a different spelling than the ASF itself? > > > > I understand your statement as a provocation. So, what do > you want to > > reach with this? > > > > The ASF is an international organization. IMHO for the most people > > English not their native language. So, there will be always language > > problems. Therefore I'm sure that - in this case - the ASF > is not that > > nitpicking as others. ;-) > > Besides, we already have discussed this, see: > > https://www.mail-archive.com/dev@openoffice.apache.org/msg38219.html thanks for this information. My comment is a question: did really nobody notice the "adjective" in https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/open-source? Does anyone think that the use in "open-source for 20 Years" is really "adjective"? imho for exemple: the use in "open-source office for 20 years" would be adjective, but this case is not present. Jörg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
RE: we are a ASF-project
> -Original Message- > From: Marcus [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de] > Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2020 8:15 PM > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: we are a ASF-project > > Am 09.09.20 um 20:00 schrieb Jörg Schmidt: > >> Even "open source" vs. "open-source" has already been > >> discussed in June. > > > > So you think it is in the interest of the ASF if one of its > projects uses a different spelling than the ASF itself? > > I understand your statement as a provocation. So, what do you want to > reach with this? I don't want to achieve anything with it, because I can't achieve anything formally with it, because the discussion is closed. I just point out to all of us that it seems to me a strange procedure to discuss spelling. I had also provided prominent examples that show that the spelling that is normally used in the English-speaking world is "open source". I did this to make it clear that _if_ the correct spelling could be disputed at all, it seems reasonable to me to use the usual spelling. > The ASF is an international organization. IMHO for the most people > English not their native language. So, there will be always language > problems. Right, but that is not the problem at this point. > Therefore I'm sure that - in this case - the ASF is > not that > nitpicking as others. J This is correct. Marcus, things are much easier than you think. I know that in German the spelling of "Open Source" vs. "Open-Source" vs. "OpenSource" is quite controversial. Far less is (or: seems to me) controversial in English and so the spelling "open-source" caught my eye. Jörg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
RE: Proposals
> -Original Message- > From: Marcus [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de] > Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2020 7:32 PM > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: Proposals > > Am 09.09.20 um 15:36 schrieb Matthias Seidel: > > Please do not hijack a VOTE. > > > > You can answer +1, abstain or -1 (giving your reason) > > right, it looks like if we don't know how a vote is working. > > Proposals could (and should) have been made months ago. > > Or start a new vote that includes all proposed logos. I would like that well, because the reason to see the individual suggestion rather negatively, far less the formulation "open-source for 20 years" is, _than rather that it looks simply optically bad to position these words *cramped* behind the Logo_. > Then it's up to > the vote starter to collect all proposed logos upfront. J I understand ... and I declare that I would take over this work _if_ we decide to vote again. Because the current new logo proposals were brought forward very quickly, I think that it would be possible to collect them by setting a short deadline of 3 days. Jörg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: we are a ASF-project
Am 09.09.20 um 20:15 schrieb Marcus: > Am 09.09.20 um 20:00 schrieb Jörg Schmidt: >>> Even "open source" vs. "open-source" has already been >>> discussed in June. >> >> So you think it is in the interest of the ASF if one of its projects >> uses a different spelling than the ASF itself? > > I understand your statement as a provocation. So, what do you want to > reach with this? > > The ASF is an international organization. IMHO for the most people > English not their native language. So, there will be always language > problems. Therefore I'm sure that - in this case - the ASF is not that > nitpicking as others. ;-) Besides, we already have discussed this, see: https://www.mail-archive.com/dev@openoffice.apache.org/msg38219.html Regards, Matthias > > BTW: > When I follow your own claim then your subject is also not free of > errors. > > Marcus > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: we are a ASF-project
Am 09.09.20 um 20:00 schrieb Jörg Schmidt: Even "open source" vs. "open-source" has already been discussed in June. So you think it is in the interest of the ASF if one of its projects uses a different spelling than the ASF itself? I understand your statement as a provocation. So, what do you want to reach with this? The ASF is an international organization. IMHO for the most people English not their native language. So, there will be always language problems. Therefore I'm sure that - in this case - the ASF is not that nitpicking as others. ;-) BTW: When I follow your own claim then your subject is also not free of errors. Marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Proposals
Am 09.09.20 um 20:03 schrieb Matthias Seidel: Am 09.09.20 um 19:31 schrieb Marcus: Am 09.09.20 um 15:36 schrieb Matthias Seidel: Please do not hijack a VOTE. You can answer +1, abstain or -1 (giving your reason) right, it looks like if we don't know how a vote is working. Proposals could (and should) have been made months ago. Or start a new vote that includes all proposed logos. Then it's up to the vote starter to collect all proposed logos upfront. ;-) Yes, but if we want to release around the 20th anniversary, then time is running out... sure, it was meant as another theoretical possibility. But if we don't come to a conclusion in a timely manner we can still release with an unchanged About logo. Although this is not my preferred solution... We have already a problem with the currently running vote as there is no end time. ;-) But when we assume max. 5 days it should be OK. Marcus Am 09.09.20 um 11:33 schrieb Bidouille: Another suggestion: https://www.cjoint.com/doc/20_09/JIjjGPLiU5s_about-20yrs.png - Mail original - De: "Jörg Schmidt" À: dev@openoffice.apache.org Envoyé: Mercredi 9 Septembre 2020 08:24:44 Objet: RE: [vote] Logo for About dialog in 4.1.8 [was: Re: About 20th anniversary plans] -Original Message- From: Pedro Lino [mailto:pedro.l...@mailbox.org] Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2020 7:10 PM To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: [vote] Logo for About dialog in 4.1.8 [was: Re: About 20th anniversary plans] Hi Matthias, all On 09/08/2020 3:11 PM Matthias Seidel wrote: I am still not sure what I should vote for/against? The graphic (which one)? Or committing it to branch 418? I call for a vote on the usage of this image https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/about_20yrs.png +-0 Sorry, but I don't like the picture optically, but unfortunately I am not a graphics expert to improve it. I would also like to point out that "open-source" might be "open source" (as in : "Open Source Initiative - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Source_Initiative;) should be called "open source", because this is about English and not German). Also the ASF itself normally writes "open source", see for example https://www.apache.org/ or http://www.apache.org/theapacheway/index.html - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Proposals
Hi Marcus, Am 09.09.20 um 19:31 schrieb Marcus: > Am 09.09.20 um 15:36 schrieb Matthias Seidel: >> Please do not hijack a VOTE. >> >> You can answer +1, abstain or -1 (giving your reason) > > right, it looks like if we don't know how a vote is working. > >> Proposals could (and should) have been made months ago. > > Or start a new vote that includes all proposed logos. Then it's up to > the vote starter to collect all proposed logos upfront. ;-) Yes, but if we want to release around the 20th anniversary, then time is running out... But if we don't come to a conclusion in a timely manner we can still release with an unchanged About logo. Although this is not my preferred solution... Matthias > > Marcus > > > >> Am 09.09.20 um 11:33 schrieb Bidouille: >>> Another suggestion: >>> https://www.cjoint.com/doc/20_09/JIjjGPLiU5s_about-20yrs.png >>> >>> - Mail original - De: "Jörg Schmidt" À: dev@openoffice.apache.org Envoyé: Mercredi 9 Septembre 2020 08:24:44 Objet: RE: [vote] Logo for About dialog in 4.1.8 [was: Re: About 20th anniversary plans] > -Original Message- > From: Pedro Lino [mailto:pedro.l...@mailbox.org] > Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2020 7:10 PM > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: [vote] Logo for About dialog in 4.1.8 [was: Re: > About 20th anniversary plans] > > Hi Matthias, all > >> On 09/08/2020 3:11 PM Matthias Seidel > wrote: > >> I am still not sure what I should vote for/against? >> >> The graphic (which one)? Or committing it to branch 418? > I call for a vote on the usage of this image > https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/about_20yrs.png +-0 Sorry, but I don't like the picture optically, but unfortunately I am not a graphics expert to improve it. I would also like to point out that "open-source" might be "open source" (as in : "Open Source Initiative - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Source_Initiative;) should be called "open source", because this is about English and not German). Also the ASF itself normally writes "open source", see for example https://www.apache.org/ or http://www.apache.org/theapacheway/index.html > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
we are a ASF-project
> Even "open source" vs. "open-source" has already been > discussed in June. So you think it is in the interest of the ASF if one of its projects uses a different spelling than the ASF itself? Jörg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
RE: [vote] Logo for About dialog in 4.1.8 [was: Re: About 20th anniversary plans]
Due to some current statements of Mathias in the thread "Proposals" I want to change my vote from +-0 to: -0.9 Jörg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Proposals
Am 09.09.20 um 15:36 schrieb Matthias Seidel: Please do not hijack a VOTE. You can answer +1, abstain or -1 (giving your reason) right, it looks like if we don't know how a vote is working. Proposals could (and should) have been made months ago. Or start a new vote that includes all proposed logos. Then it's up to the vote starter to collect all proposed logos upfront. ;-) Marcus Am 09.09.20 um 11:33 schrieb Bidouille: Another suggestion: https://www.cjoint.com/doc/20_09/JIjjGPLiU5s_about-20yrs.png - Mail original - De: "Jörg Schmidt" À: dev@openoffice.apache.org Envoyé: Mercredi 9 Septembre 2020 08:24:44 Objet: RE: [vote] Logo for About dialog in 4.1.8 [was: Re: About 20th anniversary plans] -Original Message- From: Pedro Lino [mailto:pedro.l...@mailbox.org] Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2020 7:10 PM To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: [vote] Logo for About dialog in 4.1.8 [was: Re: About 20th anniversary plans] Hi Matthias, all On 09/08/2020 3:11 PM Matthias Seidel wrote: I am still not sure what I should vote for/against? The graphic (which one)? Or committing it to branch 418? I call for a vote on the usage of this image https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/about_20yrs.png +-0 Sorry, but I don't like the picture optically, but unfortunately I am not a graphics expert to improve it. I would also like to point out that "open-source" might be "open source" (as in : "Open Source Initiative - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Source_Initiative;) should be called "open source", because this is about English and not German). Also the ASF itself normally writes "open source", see for example https://www.apache.org/ or http://www.apache.org/theapacheway/index.html - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Proposals (was: Re: [vote] Logo for About dialog in 4.1.8 [was: Re: About 20th anniversary plans])
Hi, Please do not hijack a VOTE. You can answer +1, abstain or -1 (giving your reason) Proposals could (and should) have been made months ago. Even "open source" vs. "open-source" has already been discussed in June. And to answer Czesław: The font is of course "Source Sans Pro", not "Arial". Regards, Matthias Am 09.09.20 um 11:33 schrieb Bidouille: > Another suggestion: > https://www.cjoint.com/doc/20_09/JIjjGPLiU5s_about-20yrs.png > > - Mail original - >> De: "Jörg Schmidt" >> À: dev@openoffice.apache.org >> Envoyé: Mercredi 9 Septembre 2020 08:24:44 >> Objet: RE: [vote] Logo for About dialog in 4.1.8 [was: Re: About 20th >> anniversary plans] >> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Pedro Lino [mailto:pedro.l...@mailbox.org] >>> Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2020 7:10 PM >>> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org >>> Subject: [vote] Logo for About dialog in 4.1.8 [was: Re: >>> About 20th anniversary plans] >>> >>> Hi Matthias, all >>> On 09/08/2020 3:11 PM Matthias Seidel >>> wrote: >>> I am still not sure what I should vote for/against? The graphic (which one)? Or committing it to branch 418? >>> I call for a vote on the usage of this image >>> https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/about_20yrs.png >> +-0 >> >> Sorry, but I don't like the picture optically, but unfortunately I am >> not a graphics expert to improve it. >> >> I would also like to point out that "open-source" might be "open >> source" (as in : "Open Source Initiative - >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Source_Initiative;) should be >> called "open source", because this is about English and not German). >> Also the ASF itself normally writes "open source", see for example >> https://www.apache.org/ or >> http://www.apache.org/theapacheway/index.html >> >> >> >> Jörg >> >> >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org >> >> > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: [vote] Logo for About dialog in 4.1.8 [was: Re: About 20th anniversary plans]
Hi Pedro, See below Am 08.09.20 um 19:10 schrieb Pedro Lino: > Hi Matthias, all > >> On 09/08/2020 3:11 PM Matthias Seidel wrote: >> I am still not sure what I should vote for/against? >> >> The graphic (which one)? Or committing it to branch 418? > I call for a vote on the usage of this image > https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/about_20yrs.png > > on the About dialog of version 4.1.8 (to be released during the 20th > Anniversary celebration) > > I propose that it is committed to branch 4.1.8 in location > main/default_images/introabout > to replace the current about.png +1 Regards, Matthias > > Regards, > Pedro > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
RE: [vote] Logo for About dialog in 4.1.8 [was: Re: About 20th anniversary plans]
> -Original Message- > From: Bidouille [mailto:ooofo...@free.fr] > Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2020 2:48 PM > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: [vote] Logo for About dialog in 4.1.8 [was: Re: > About 20th anniversary plans] > > > If there is still time for suggestions, here is mine: > > http://calc-info.de/files/AOO_20years.png > > For me, if a sentence must be used, it should be translated > for localized version. > So, I think a logotype is better. first of all: I don't know if my suggestion is better, in any case I did _not_ say so. But I find your reasoning unlogical, because: why should it be a question of _a sentence_? Either it's a question of a general translation, in which case the logo should only contain a "20" (and not "20 years"), or it's not a question of translation. (Yes, I am of the opinion that "20" alone is _not_ to be misunderstood.) Jörg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
RE: [vote] Logo for About dialog in 4.1.8 [was: Re: About 20th anniversary plans]
> -Original Message- > From: Rory O'Farrell [mailto:ofarr...@iol.ie] > Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2020 2:31 PM > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: [vote] Logo for About dialog in 4.1.8 [was: Re: > About 20th anniversary plans] > > Maybe the spelling would be too: > > > > "Open. For all. Since 20 years" > > In terms of better English grammar and punctuation, it should be > > Open, for all, for 20 years. Absolutely correct, only less advertising psychologically. Not without reason I had pointed out the missing point (in: "Since 20 years") and I hope that you believe me that I know that the grammar was formally wrong. Jörg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [vote] Logo for About dialog in 4.1.8 [was: Re: About 20th anniversary plans]
> If there is still time for suggestions, here is mine: > http://calc-info.de/files/AOO_20years.png For me, if a sentence must be used, it should be translated for localized version. So, I think a logotype is better. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [vote] Logo for About dialog in 4.1.8 [was: Re: About 20th anniversary plans]
On Wed, 9 Sep 2020 13:56:56 +0200 Jörg Schmidt wrote: > Hello Czesław, *, > > > -Original Message- > > From: Czesław Wolański [mailto:czeslaw.wolan...@gmail.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2020 1:11 PM > > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > > Subject: Re: [vote] Logo for About dialog in 4.1.8 [was: Re: > > About 20th anniversary plans] > > > > Hi Jörg, all > > > > > If there is still time for suggestions, here is mine: > > > > > > http://calc-info.de/files/AOO_20years.png > > > > Just a little variation on the theme "Logo for About dialog in 4.1.8" > > based upon your suggestion (and minor/cosmetic alteration on my part). > > > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UPed2jyIhHEp9ST49q0uNgqFDWJsN > > L1s/view?usp=sharing > > In my opinion, the proposal with the text to the right of the existing logo > looks similarly unfavorable as the original proposal (i mean: > https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/about_20yrs.png) > > > BTW: > > What font is used for: "Open for all / since 20 years"? > > Arial italic > > > > I still don't feel my own proposal is optimal, although I had already varied > a lot. > It is important to find an optimum between content and design of the text and > the use of elements of the actual logo. > > e.g. I first tried to write "Open" and "20 years" in blue and "for all since" > in dark grey, but that seemed to distort the content. > > Maybe the spelling would be too: > > "Open. For all. Since 20 years" In terms of better English grammar and punctuation, it should be Open, for all, for 20 years. or better yet Open for all, for 20 years. Rory > (at the end, without dot) > > feasible, because in the de-OOo-Community we (i think it was Eric H.) once > invented a very public slogan : > > "Open. For Business" > (at the end, without dot) > > > > > Jörg > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > -- Rory O'Farrell - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
RE: [vote] Logo for About dialog in 4.1.8 [was: Re: About 20th anniversary plans]
Hello Czesław, *, > -Original Message- > From: Czesław Wolański [mailto:czeslaw.wolan...@gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2020 1:11 PM > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: [vote] Logo for About dialog in 4.1.8 [was: Re: > About 20th anniversary plans] > > Hi Jörg, all > > > If there is still time for suggestions, here is mine: > > > > http://calc-info.de/files/AOO_20years.png > > Just a little variation on the theme "Logo for About dialog in 4.1.8" > based upon your suggestion (and minor/cosmetic alteration on my part). > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UPed2jyIhHEp9ST49q0uNgqFDWJsN > L1s/view?usp=sharing In my opinion, the proposal with the text to the right of the existing logo looks similarly unfavorable as the original proposal (i mean: https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/about_20yrs.png) > BTW: > What font is used for: "Open for all / since 20 years"? Arial italic I still don't feel my own proposal is optimal, although I had already varied a lot. It is important to find an optimum between content and design of the text and the use of elements of the actual logo. e.g. I first tried to write "Open" and "20 years" in blue and "for all since" in dark grey, but that seemed to distort the content. Maybe the spelling would be too: "Open. For all. Since 20 years" (at the end, without dot) feasible, because in the de-OOo-Community we (i think it was Eric H.) once invented a very public slogan : "Open. For Business" (at the end, without dot) Jörg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [vote] Logo for About dialog in 4.1.8 [was: Re: About 20th anniversary plans]
Hi Jörg, all > If there is still time for suggestions, here is mine: > > http://calc-info.de/files/AOO_20years.png Just a little variation on the theme "Logo for About dialog in 4.1.8" based upon your suggestion (and minor/cosmetic alteration on my part). https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UPed2jyIhHEp9ST49q0uNgqFDWJsNL1s/view?usp=sharing BTW: What font is used for: "Open for all / since 20 years"? Regards, Czesław ср, 9 сент. 2020 г. в 12:22, Jörg Schmidt : > > -Original Message- > > From: Bidouille [mailto:ooofo...@free.fr] > > Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2020 11:34 AM > > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > > Subject: Re: [vote] Logo for About dialog in 4.1.8 [was: Re: > > About 20th anniversary plans] > > > > Another suggestion: > > https://www.cjoint.com/doc/20_09/JIjjGPLiU5s_about-20yrs.png > > If there is still time for suggestions, here is mine: > > http://calc-info.de/files/AOO_20years.png > > > > Jörg > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > >
RE: [vote] Logo for About dialog in 4.1.8 [was: Re: About 20th anniversary plans]
> -Original Message- > From: Bidouille [mailto:ooofo...@free.fr] > Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2020 11:34 AM > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: [vote] Logo for About dialog in 4.1.8 [was: Re: > About 20th anniversary plans] > > Another suggestion: > https://www.cjoint.com/doc/20_09/JIjjGPLiU5s_about-20yrs.png If there is still time for suggestions, here is mine: http://calc-info.de/files/AOO_20years.png Jörg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [vote] Logo for About dialog in 4.1.8 [was: Re: About 20th anniversary plans]
Another suggestion: https://www.cjoint.com/doc/20_09/JIjjGPLiU5s_about-20yrs.png - Mail original - > De: "Jörg Schmidt" > À: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Envoyé: Mercredi 9 Septembre 2020 08:24:44 > Objet: RE: [vote] Logo for About dialog in 4.1.8 [was: Re: About 20th > anniversary plans] > > > -Original Message- > > From: Pedro Lino [mailto:pedro.l...@mailbox.org] > > Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2020 7:10 PM > > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > > Subject: [vote] Logo for About dialog in 4.1.8 [was: Re: > > About 20th anniversary plans] > > > > Hi Matthias, all > > > > > On 09/08/2020 3:11 PM Matthias Seidel > > wrote: > > > > > I am still not sure what I should vote for/against? > > > > > > The graphic (which one)? Or committing it to branch 418? > > > > I call for a vote on the usage of this image > > https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/about_20yrs.png > > +-0 > > Sorry, but I don't like the picture optically, but unfortunately I am > not a graphics expert to improve it. > > I would also like to point out that "open-source" might be "open > source" (as in : "Open Source Initiative - > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Source_Initiative;) should be > called "open source", because this is about English and not German). > Also the ASF itself normally writes "open source", see for example > https://www.apache.org/ or > http://www.apache.org/theapacheway/index.html > > > > Jörg > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
RE: [vote] Logo for About dialog in 4.1.8 [was: Re: About 20th anniversary plans]
> -Original Message- > From: Pedro Lino [mailto:pedro.l...@mailbox.org] > Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2020 7:10 PM > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: [vote] Logo for About dialog in 4.1.8 [was: Re: > About 20th anniversary plans] > > Hi Matthias, all > > > On 09/08/2020 3:11 PM Matthias Seidel > wrote: > > > I am still not sure what I should vote for/against? > > > > The graphic (which one)? Or committing it to branch 418? > > I call for a vote on the usage of this image > https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/about_20yrs.png +-0 Sorry, but I don't like the picture optically, but unfortunately I am not a graphics expert to improve it. I would also like to point out that "open-source" might be "open source" (as in : "Open Source Initiative - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Source_Initiative;) should be called "open source", because this is about English and not German). Also the ASF itself normally writes "open source", see for example https://www.apache.org/ or http://www.apache.org/theapacheway/index.html Jörg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
