Re: Compatibility of new releases with older operating systems

2021-10-05 Thread Dave Fisher
We have these pages:
https://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/source/sys_reqs_aoo40.html
https://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/source/sys_reqs_aoo41.html (System 
requirements on download page)
https://github.com/apache/openoffice-org/tree/main/content/dev_docs/source
https://www.openoffice.org/download/platform_hints.html
https://github.com/apache/openoffice-org/blob/main/assets/download/msg_prop_l10n_en.js
 (requirements as text which may be translated)
Most of the whole dev_docs directory is completely out of date, but the md 
files are “on track".

We also have current specs in three md files here although they seem to be 
detached.

https://github.com/apache/openoffice-org/tree/main/content/product
https://www.openoffice.org/product/

I’d like to see

new pages in dev_docs/source/ for aoo42 and trunk
A requirements page in product to replace linux.md, mac.md, and windows.md
Tie the product requirements page to the download pages somehow.


> On Oct 5, 2021, at 3:12 PM, Carl Marcum  wrote:
> 
> Hi Arrigo,
> 
> On 10/5/21 4:00 PM, Arrigo Marchiori wrote:
>> Dear All,
>> 
>> do we have a list of the operating systems' releases that we want to
>> support for each AOO release?
>> 
>> For example: what is the oldest Windows version that AOO 4.1.X must
>> support? And 4.2?
>> And what about macOS versions?
>> 
>> I think I remember a thread from some months ago discussing compilers,
>> but I could not find it from the archives.
>> 
>> If a comprehensive page does not exist, I suggest we make it into our
>> (c)wiki. I would be interested to use it as a compilers' and build
>> tools compatibility matrix.
>> 
>> Thank you in advance to whoever will give me any pointers,
> 
> Aside from email threads here and there about compilers, java versions, etc I 
> can't point to anything.
> Maybe someone can point to something I don't know about.
> 
> I would be good to decide so we know what can be done in 42X vs trunk(450) 
> etc. around compilers, java and whatever else may drive those decisions.

I think that Jim wanted to have macOS 10.9 as the new base: 
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/r6a775ab1c7dfcdb6f85c1fbe22abdba2045ec9cff90900842843fc12%40%3Cdev.openoffice.apache.org%3E

> 
> It's good that we strive to support old OS's but there is a point where a new 
> release will have to drop something just to keep going.

I think that the arguments differ for Linux flavors and Windows versions.

> 
> Thanks for bringing this up.

+1.

Regards,
Dave

> 
> Best regards,
> Carl
> 
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Re: Compatibility of new releases with older operating systems

2021-10-05 Thread Carl Marcum

Hi Arrigo,

On 10/5/21 4:00 PM, Arrigo Marchiori wrote:

Dear All,

do we have a list of the operating systems' releases that we want to
support for each AOO release?

For example: what is the oldest Windows version that AOO 4.1.X must
support? And 4.2?
And what about macOS versions?

I think I remember a thread from some months ago discussing compilers,
but I could not find it from the archives.

If a comprehensive page does not exist, I suggest we make it into our
(c)wiki. I would be interested to use it as a compilers' and build
tools compatibility matrix.

Thank you in advance to whoever will give me any pointers,


Aside from email threads here and there about compilers, java versions, 
etc I can't point to anything.

Maybe someone can point to something I don't know about.

I would be good to decide so we know what can be done in 42X vs 
trunk(450) etc. around compilers, java and whatever else may drive those 
decisions.


It's good that we strive to support old OS's but there is a point where 
a new release will have to drop something just to keep going.


Thanks for bringing this up.

Best regards,
Carl


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Compatibility of new releases with older operating systems

2021-10-05 Thread Arrigo Marchiori
Dear All,

do we have a list of the operating systems' releases that we want to
support for each AOO release?

For example: what is the oldest Windows version that AOO 4.1.X must
support? And 4.2?
And what about macOS versions?

I think I remember a thread from some months ago discussing compilers,
but I could not find it from the archives.

If a comprehensive page does not exist, I suggest we make it into our
(c)wiki. I would be interested to use it as a compilers' and build
tools compatibility matrix.

Thank you in advance to whoever will give me any pointers,
-- 
Arrigo

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Re: [CLOSED] Re: [DISCUSS][VOTE] Release AOO 4.1.11-RC1 as GA

2021-10-05 Thread Matthias Seidel
Hi Jim,

Uploads to SourceForge are running.

Regards,

   Matthias

Am 05.10.21 um 13:14 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
> The vote on releasing AOO 4.1.11-RC1 as GA is CLOSED.
>
> The vote has PASSED.
>
>> On Oct 4, 2021, at 12:01 PM, Matthias Seidel  
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Jim,
>>
>> Am 04.10.21 um 13:09 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
>>> Agreed!
>> Marcus already casted his vote.
>>
>> Maybe it is time to close the vote and move on?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>Matthias
>>
 On Oct 1, 2021, at 2:45 PM, Marcus  wrote:

 Jim, is it possible to extent the vote for 12 hours (which will be 
 Midnight European time)?

 Then I've a much better chance with testing *and* to take part of this 
 vote.

 Thanks

 Marcus



 Am 30.09.21 um 12:37 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
> I am calling a VOTE on releasing the source and complimentary community 
> builds of
> Apache OpenOffice 4.1.11-RC1 as GA.
> [...]
> This vote will be open for the normal 72hrs.
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2021-10-05 Thread Stefan Roth

Hallo und guten Tag,

ich benutze im Calc ziemlich oft Daten>Sortieren.
Was da echt ungeschickt ist, dass in der Liste wählbaren Spalten immer
"Spalte A", "Spalte B", steht. So kann man nicht wie sonst
windowstypisch die Tastatur benutzen um die Spalte direkt zu wählen und
muß sich mit Mausrad oder UpDown Keys durch die Liste "quälen".
Cooler wäre es doch wohl wenn man als Überschrift (je nach Option
umgeändert) "Sortieren nach Spalte" "Sortieren nach Zeile" (Wobei
"Sortieren nach" ja auch reichen würde)
und dann nur A,B, C..  oder bei Zeilen 1,2,3... anzeigen würde.
Oder?

vielen Dank aber auf jeden Fall für all eure Arbeit!

Gruß Stefan Roth

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