Re: [PATCH DOWNLOAD] Draft for the hotfix webpage
Am 08/19/2016 01:09 AM, schrieb Dennis E. Hamilton: -Original Message- From: Marcus [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de] Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2016 14:40 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: [PATCH DOWNLOAD] Draft for the hotfix webpage Am 08/15/2016 11:40 PM, schrieb Dennis E. Hamilton: -Original Message- From: Marcus [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de] Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 13:43 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: [PATCH DOWNLOAD] Draft for the hotfix webpage Am 08/15/2016 09:10 PM, schrieb Dennis E. Hamilton: -Original Message- From: Kay sch...@apache.org [mailto:ksch...@apache.org] Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 08:59 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: [PATCH DOWNLOAD] Draft for the hotfix webpage On 08/13/2016 02:16 PM, Marcus wrote: As we have now the patched library file and Readme for all platforms, IMHO not much more is needed to go public with the hotfix. Therefore I've created a draft version of the hotfix download webpage: http://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/openoffice/4.1.2- patch1/hotfix.html Please review and tell me your feedback. [orcmid] I have a number of items. I can fix the URLs in (2) below after I have updated the Windows set. 1. This is worded as if it is the advisory. I assume this is, rather, something that should be linked to from an update of the advisory. I request that it be a description of the HotFix. It could link to the advisory, of course. RECOMMENDATION: Have the emphasis be on this describing release of the hotfix for CVE-2016-1513. OK, seems indeed not clear enough. 2. Download and Installation. Currently, this page is at <https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/openoffice/4.1.2- patch1/hotfix.html>. It has *ABSOLUTE* URLs to the binaries and source and the various hashes. WHEN GENERAL DISTRIBUTION OCCURS, this page and all of the binaries and source pages will be at <https://archive.apache.org/dist/openoffice/4.1.2-patch1>. Please remember that it's just a draft of what is available at the moment. ;-) That's why the URLs for source and binaries differ already. Of course all URLs will change when everything is available at dist/ and no longer dev/. RECOMMENDATION: In the Download&Installation table, make all URLS *RELATIVE* to the HotFix page, since when it is staged to release and then to archive, the links will always work. NOTE. When we make general distribution, we stage the HotFix HTML page and the binaries subfolder to <https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/openoffice/4.1.2-patch1> using SVN copies. In 24-48 hours or so that material will show up automatically on archive.apache.org and we can make the general distribution announcement. The dist.apache.org materials can be removed when that happens. WARNING. The Windows material is not ready, and some renaming will happen. That should all be done by the end of Tuesday (GMT). The current location of the hotfix webpage is of course is not the final one. It will be there where the other webpages are: at w.oo.o. I've just put it into SVN to have it not yet on the public OO website. [orcmid] LOL. I thought that is where you wanted to keep it [;<). Because it is so specific to this HotFix, I think it would be great to leave it with the downloads and the archive.apache.org site, but link to it from openoffice.org. 3. Next Step under Download and Installation. The README for Windows addresses the way to Unzip and provides important information about how the extract is into a folder of a default-determined name. I don't know if the others provide comparable information and/or operating from a terminal is assumed. Yes, more (Linux) or less (Mac) it should be comparable. 4. How to verify the download&installation. Verifying the Zip is sufficient. The table does not identify the files those check cases are from so it is not at all clear what value this is. RECOMMENDATION: If it is valuable, we should include the additional hashes inside the Zips, and provide the size and time stamp information in the individual README files. Yes, right. "Old file" and "New file" is for sure not exact enough which file it is about. And the other file-based data can be moved to the Readme's, too. > That way there is no redundancy and the information is maintained in > exactly one place. Ahm, no. ;-) At the moment we have it at a single place. When we split it into the 4 Readme's then we have 4 places to maintain. But at the end you are right. The webpage contains some details that should be moved to the respective Readme. I'll finish the changes when I'm back from a trip on Thursday or Friday. I want to change my mind: Let's skip these changes and keep this in mind for the next time. I just would do the Readme changes - tha
RE: [PATCH DOWNLOAD] Draft for the hotfix webpage
> -Original Message- > From: Marcus [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de] > Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2016 14:40 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: [PATCH DOWNLOAD] Draft for the hotfix webpage > > Am 08/15/2016 11:40 PM, schrieb Dennis E. Hamilton: > > > >> -Original Message- > >> From: Marcus [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de] > >> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 13:43 > >> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > >> Subject: Re: [PATCH DOWNLOAD] Draft for the hotfix webpage > >> > >> Am 08/15/2016 09:10 PM, schrieb Dennis E. Hamilton: > >>> > >>>> -Original Message- > >>>> From: Kay sch...@apache.org [mailto:ksch...@apache.org] > >>>> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 08:59 > >>>> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > >>>> Subject: Re: [PATCH DOWNLOAD] Draft for the hotfix webpage > >>>> > >>>> On 08/13/2016 02:16 PM, Marcus wrote: > >>>>> As we have now the patched library file and Readme for all > >> platforms, > >>>>> IMHO not much more is needed to go public with the hotfix. > Therefore > >>>>> I've created a draft version of the hotfix download webpage: > >>>>> > >>>>> http://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/openoffice/4.1.2- > >>>> patch1/hotfix.html > >>>>> > >>>>> Please review and tell me your feedback. > >>> [orcmid] > >>> > >>> I have a number of items. I can fix the URLs in (2) below after I > >> have updated the Windows set. > >>> > >>> 1. This is worded as if it is the advisory. I assume this is, > >> rather, something that should be linked to from an update of the > >> advisory. I request that it be a description of the HotFix. It > could > >> link to the advisory, of course. RECOMMENDATION: Have the emphasis > be > >> on this describing release of the hotfix for CVE-2016-1513. > >> > >> OK, seems indeed not clear enough. > >> > >>> 2. Download and Installation. Currently, this page is at > >>> <https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/openoffice/4.1.2- > >> patch1/hotfix.html>. It has *ABSOLUTE* URLs to the binaries and > source > >> and the various hashes. WHEN GENERAL DISTRIBUTION OCCURS, this page > and > >> all of the binaries and source pages will be at > >>> <https://archive.apache.org/dist/openoffice/4.1.2-patch1>. > >> > >> Please remember that it's just a draft of what is available at the > >> moment. ;-) That's why the URLs for source and binaries differ > already. > >> Of course all URLs will change when everything is available at dist/ > and > >> no longer dev/. > >> > >> RECOMMENDATION: In the Download& Installation table, make all URLS > >> *RELATIVE* to the HotFix page, since when it is staged to release and > >> then to archive, the links will always work. > >>>NOTE. When we make general distribution, we stage the HotFix > >> HTML page and the binaries subfolder to > >>> <https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/openoffice/4.1.2-patch1> > >> using SVN copies. In 24-48 hours or so that material will show up > >> automatically on archive.apache.org and we can make the general > >> distribution announcement. The dist.apache.org materials can be > removed > >> when that happens. WARNING. The Windows material is not ready, and > some > >> renaming will happen. That should all be done by the end of Tuesday > >> (GMT). > >> > >> The current location of the hotfix webpage is of course is not the > final > >> one. It will be there where the other webpages are: at w.oo.o. > >> > >> I've just put it into SVN to have it not yet on the public OO > website. > > [orcmid] > > > > LOL. I thought that is where you wanted to keep it [;<). Because it > is so specific to this HotFix, I think it would be great to leave it > with the downloads and the archive.apache.org site, but link to it from > openoffice.org. > > > >> > >>> 3. Next Step under Download and Installation. The README for > >> Windows addresses the way to Unzip and provides important information > >> about how the extract is into a folder of a default-determined name. > I > >> don't know if the others provide comparable information and/or > operating > >> f
Re: [PATCH DOWNLOAD] Draft for the hotfix webpage
Am 08/15/2016 11:40 PM, schrieb Dennis E. Hamilton: -Original Message- From: Marcus [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de] Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 13:43 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: [PATCH DOWNLOAD] Draft for the hotfix webpage Am 08/15/2016 09:10 PM, schrieb Dennis E. Hamilton: -Original Message- From: Kay sch...@apache.org [mailto:ksch...@apache.org] Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 08:59 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: [PATCH DOWNLOAD] Draft for the hotfix webpage On 08/13/2016 02:16 PM, Marcus wrote: As we have now the patched library file and Readme for all platforms, IMHO not much more is needed to go public with the hotfix. Therefore I've created a draft version of the hotfix download webpage: http://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/openoffice/4.1.2- patch1/hotfix.html Please review and tell me your feedback. [orcmid] I have a number of items. I can fix the URLs in (2) below after I have updated the Windows set. 1. This is worded as if it is the advisory. I assume this is, rather, something that should be linked to from an update of the advisory. I request that it be a description of the HotFix. It could link to the advisory, of course. RECOMMENDATION: Have the emphasis be on this describing release of the hotfix for CVE-2016-1513. OK, seems indeed not clear enough. 2. Download and Installation. Currently, this page is at <https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/openoffice/4.1.2- patch1/hotfix.html>. It has *ABSOLUTE* URLs to the binaries and source and the various hashes. WHEN GENERAL DISTRIBUTION OCCURS, this page and all of the binaries and source pages will be at <https://archive.apache.org/dist/openoffice/4.1.2-patch1>. Please remember that it's just a draft of what is available at the moment. ;-) That's why the URLs for source and binaries differ already. Of course all URLs will change when everything is available at dist/ and no longer dev/. RECOMMENDATION: In the Download& Installation table, make all URLS *RELATIVE* to the HotFix page, since when it is staged to release and then to archive, the links will always work. NOTE. When we make general distribution, we stage the HotFix HTML page and the binaries subfolder to <https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/openoffice/4.1.2-patch1> using SVN copies. In 24-48 hours or so that material will show up automatically on archive.apache.org and we can make the general distribution announcement. The dist.apache.org materials can be removed when that happens. WARNING. The Windows material is not ready, and some renaming will happen. That should all be done by the end of Tuesday (GMT). The current location of the hotfix webpage is of course is not the final one. It will be there where the other webpages are: at w.oo.o. I've just put it into SVN to have it not yet on the public OO website. [orcmid] LOL. I thought that is where you wanted to keep it [;<). Because it is so specific to this HotFix, I think it would be great to leave it with the downloads and the archive.apache.org site, but link to it from openoffice.org. 3. Next Step under Download and Installation. The README for Windows addresses the way to Unzip and provides important information about how the extract is into a folder of a default-determined name. I don't know if the others provide comparable information and/or operating from a terminal is assumed. Yes, more (Linux) or less (Mac) it should be comparable. 4. How to verify the download& installation. Verifying the Zip is sufficient. The table does not identify the files those check cases are from so it is not at all clear what value this is. RECOMMENDATION: If it is valuable, we should include the additional hashes inside the Zips, and provide the size and time stamp information in the individual README files. Yes, right. "Old file" and "New file" is for sure not exact enough which file it is about. And the other file-based data can be moved to the Readme's, too. > That way there is no redundancy and the information is maintained in > exactly one place. Ahm, no. ;-) At the moment we have it at a single place. When we split it into the 4 Readme's then we have 4 places to maintain. But at the end you are right. The webpage contains some details that should be moved to the respective Readme. I'll finish the changes when I'm back from a trip on Thursday or Friday. I want to change my mind: Let's skip these changes and keep this in mind for the next time. I just would do the Readme changes - that I've already suggested in a previous mail - for Mac and both Linux *outside* of the ZIP file. And then let's do the release. Otherwise we would go another leap and another one and ... ;-) What do you think? Marcus ---
RE: [PATCH DOWNLOAD] Draft for the hotfix webpage
> -Original Message- > From: Marcus [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de] > Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 13:43 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: [PATCH DOWNLOAD] Draft for the hotfix webpage > > Am 08/15/2016 09:10 PM, schrieb Dennis E. Hamilton: > > > >> -Original Message- > >> From: Kay sch...@apache.org [mailto:ksch...@apache.org] > >> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 08:59 > >> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > >> Subject: Re: [PATCH DOWNLOAD] Draft for the hotfix webpage > >> > >> On 08/13/2016 02:16 PM, Marcus wrote: > >>> As we have now the patched library file and Readme for all > platforms, > >>> IMHO not much more is needed to go public with the hotfix. Therefore > >>> I've created a draft version of the hotfix download webpage: > >>> > >>> http://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/openoffice/4.1.2- > >> patch1/hotfix.html > >>> > >>> Please review and tell me your feedback. > > [orcmid] > > > > I have a number of items. I can fix the URLs in (2) below after I > have updated the Windows set. > > > >1. This is worded as if it is the advisory. I assume this is, > rather, something that should be linked to from an update of the > advisory. I request that it be a description of the HotFix. It could > link to the advisory, of course. RECOMMENDATION: Have the emphasis be > on this describing release of the hotfix for CVE-2016-1513. > > OK, seems indeed not clear enough. > > >2. Download and Installation. Currently, this page is at > > <https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/openoffice/4.1.2- > patch1/hotfix.html>. It has *ABSOLUTE* URLs to the binaries and source > and the various hashes. WHEN GENERAL DISTRIBUTION OCCURS, this page and > all of the binaries and source pages will be at > > <https://archive.apache.org/dist/openoffice/4.1.2-patch1>. > > Please remember that it's just a draft of what is available at the > moment. ;-) That's why the URLs for source and binaries differ already. > Of course all URLs will change when everything is available at dist/ and > no longer dev/. > > RECOMMENDATION: In the Download& Installation table, make all URLS > *RELATIVE* to the HotFix page, since when it is staged to release and > then to archive, the links will always work. > > NOTE. When we make general distribution, we stage the HotFix > HTML page and the binaries subfolder to > > <https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/openoffice/4.1.2-patch1> > using SVN copies. In 24-48 hours or so that material will show up > automatically on archive.apache.org and we can make the general > distribution announcement. The dist.apache.org materials can be removed > when that happens. WARNING. The Windows material is not ready, and some > renaming will happen. That should all be done by the end of Tuesday > (GMT). > > The current location of the hotfix webpage is of course is not the final > one. It will be there where the other webpages are: at w.oo.o. > > I've just put it into SVN to have it not yet on the public OO website. [orcmid] LOL. I thought that is where you wanted to keep it [;<). Because it is so specific to this HotFix, I think it would be great to leave it with the downloads and the archive.apache.org site, but link to it from openoffice.org. > > >3. Next Step under Download and Installation. The README for > Windows addresses the way to Unzip and provides important information > about how the extract is into a folder of a default-determined name. I > don't know if the others provide comparable information and/or operating > from a terminal is assumed. > > Yes, more (Linux) or less (Mac) it should be comparable. > > >4. How to verify the download& installation. Verifying the Zip is > sufficient. The table does not identify the files those check cases are > from so it is not at all clear what value this is. RECOMMENDATION: If > it is valuable, we should include the additional hashes inside the Zips, > and provide the size and time stamp information in the individual README > files. > > Yes, right. "Old file" and "New file" is for sure not exact enough which > file it is about. And the other file-based data can be moved to the > Readme's, too. > > > That way there is no redundancy and the information is maintained in > > exactly one place. > > > Ahm, no. ;-) At the moment we have it at a single place. When we split > it into the 4 Readme's then we have 4 places to maintain. > > &g
Re: [PATCH DOWNLOAD] Draft for the hotfix webpage
Am 08/15/2016 09:10 PM, schrieb Dennis E. Hamilton: -Original Message- From: Kay sch...@apache.org [mailto:ksch...@apache.org] Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 08:59 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: [PATCH DOWNLOAD] Draft for the hotfix webpage On 08/13/2016 02:16 PM, Marcus wrote: As we have now the patched library file and Readme for all platforms, IMHO not much more is needed to go public with the hotfix. Therefore I've created a draft version of the hotfix download webpage: http://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/openoffice/4.1.2- patch1/hotfix.html Please review and tell me your feedback. [orcmid] I have a number of items. I can fix the URLs in (2) below after I have updated the Windows set. 1. This is worded as if it is the advisory. I assume this is, rather, something that should be linked to from an update of the advisory. I request that it be a description of the HotFix. It could link to the advisory, of course. RECOMMENDATION: Have the emphasis be on this describing release of the hotfix for CVE-2016-1513. OK, seems indeed not clear enough. 2. Download and Installation. Currently, this page is at <https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/openoffice/4.1.2-patch1/hotfix.html>. It has *ABSOLUTE* URLs to the binaries and source and the various hashes. WHEN GENERAL DISTRIBUTION OCCURS, this page and all of the binaries and source pages will be at <https://archive.apache.org/dist/openoffice/4.1.2-patch1>. Please remember that it's just a draft of what is available at the moment. ;-) That's why the URLs for source and binaries differ already. Of course all URLs will change when everything is available at dist/ and no longer dev/. RECOMMENDATION: In the Download& Installation table, make all URLS *RELATIVE* to the HotFix page, since when it is staged to release and then to archive, the links will always work. NOTE. When we make general distribution, we stage the HotFix HTML page and the binaries subfolder to <https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/openoffice/4.1.2-patch1> using SVN copies. In 24-48 hours or so that material will show up automatically on archive.apache.org and we can make the general distribution announcement. The dist.apache.org materials can be removed when that happens. WARNING. The Windows material is not ready, and some renaming will happen. That should all be done by the end of Tuesday (GMT). The current location of the hotfix webpage is of course is not the final one. It will be there where the other webpages are: at w.oo.o. I've just put it into SVN to have it not yet on the public OO website. 3. Next Step under Download and Installation. The README for Windows addresses the way to Unzip and provides important information about how the extract is into a folder of a default-determined name. I don't know if the others provide comparable information and/or operating from a terminal is assumed. Yes, more (Linux) or less (Mac) it should be comparable. 4. How to verify the download& installation. Verifying the Zip is sufficient. The table does not identify the files those check cases are from so it is not at all clear what value this is. RECOMMENDATION: If it is valuable, we should include the additional hashes inside the Zips, and provide the size and time stamp information in the individual README files. Yes, right. "Old file" and "New file" is for sure not exact enough which file it is about. And the other file-based data can be moved to the Readme's, too. > That way there is no redundancy and the information is maintained in > exactly one place. Ahm, no. ;-) At the moment we have it at a single place. When we split it into the 4 Readme's then we have 4 places to maintain. But at the end you are right. The webpage contains some details that should be moved to the respective Readme. I'll finish the changes when I'm back from a trip on Thursday or Friday. Thanks for your feedback. Marcus Looks good to me. -- Kay Schenk Apache OpenOffice - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
RE: [PATCH DOWNLOAD] Draft for the hotfix webpage
> -Original Message- > From: Kay sch...@apache.org [mailto:ksch...@apache.org] > Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 08:59 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: [PATCH DOWNLOAD] Draft for the hotfix webpage > > > > On 08/13/2016 02:16 PM, Marcus wrote: > > As we have now the patched library file and Readme for all platforms, > > IMHO not much more is needed to go public with the hotfix. Therefore > > I've created a draft version of the hotfix download webpage: > > > > http://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/openoffice/4.1.2- > patch1/hotfix.html > > > > Please review and tell me your feedback. [orcmid] I have a number of items. I can fix the URLs in (2) below after I have updated the Windows set. 1. This is worded as if it is the advisory. I assume this is, rather, something that should be linked to from an update of the advisory. I request that it be a description of the HotFix. It could link to the advisory, of course. RECOMMENDATION: Have the emphasis be on this describing release of the hotfix for CVE-2016-1513. 2. Download and Installation. Currently, this page is at <https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/openoffice/4.1.2-patch1/hotfix.html>. It has *ABSOLUTE* URLs to the binaries and source and the various hashes. WHEN GENERAL DISTRIBUTION OCCURS, this page and all of the binaries and source pages will be at <https://archive.apache.org/dist/openoffice/4.1.2-patch1>. RECOMMENDATION: In the Download & Installation table, make all URLS *RELATIVE* to the HotFix page, since when it is staged to release and then to archive, the links will always work. NOTE. When we make general distribution, we stage the HotFix HTML page and the binaries subfolder to <https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/openoffice/4.1.2-patch1> using SVN copies. In 24-48 hours or so that material will show up automatically on archive.apache.org and we can make the general distribution announcement. The dist.apache.org materials can be removed when that happens. WARNING. The Windows material is not ready, and some renaming will happen. That should all be done by the end of Tuesday (GMT). 3. Next Step under Download and Installation. The README for Windows addresses the way to Unzip and provides important information about how the extract is into a folder of a default-determined name. I don't know if the others provide comparable information and/or operating from a terminal is assumed. 4. How to verify the download & installation. Verifying the Zip is sufficient. The table does not identify the files those check cases are from so it is not at all clear what value this is. RECOMMENDATION: If it is valuable, we should include the additional hashes inside the Zips, and provide the size and time stamp information in the individual README files. That way there is no redundancy and the information is maintained in exactly one place. - Dennis > > > > Thanks > > > > Marcus > > Looks good to me. > > > -- > Kay Schenk > Apache OpenOffice > > > "Things work out best for those who make > the best of the way things work out." > -- John Wooden > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [PATCH DOWNLOAD] Draft for the hotfix webpage
On 08/13/2016 02:16 PM, Marcus wrote: > As we have now the patched library file and Readme for all platforms, > IMHO not much more is needed to go public with the hotfix. Therefore > I've created a draft version of the hotfix download webpage: > > http://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/openoffice/4.1.2-patch1/hotfix.html > > Please review and tell me your feedback. > > Thanks > > Marcus Looks good to me. -- Kay Schenk Apache OpenOffice "Things work out best for those who make the best of the way things work out." -- John Wooden - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
[PATCH DOWNLOAD] Draft for the hotfix webpage
As we have now the patched library file and Readme for all platforms, IMHO not much more is needed to go public with the hotfix. Therefore I've created a draft version of the hotfix download webpage: http://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/openoffice/4.1.2-patch1/hotfix.html Please review and tell me your feedback. Thanks Marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
