Re: FW: [DISCUSSION] ODF Plugfest, September 2015

2015-09-04 Thread Roberto Galoppini
2015-09-04 0:14 GMT+02:00 Dennis E. Hamilton :

> More information about the Plugfest for some who might not have noticed
> earlier.
>
> I have edited this lightly to reflect the current status in my case.
>
> - Dennis
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:orc...@apache.org]
> Sent: Friday, July 31, 2015 15:31
> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: [DISCUSSION] ODF Plugfest, September 2015 (was RE: [NOMINATION]
> Dennis Hamilton ... )
>
> Roberto mentions the forthcoming ODF Plugfest to be held September 15-16
> at the Hague.
>
> WHAT THE ODF PLUGFEST IS
>
> Information about the Plugfest is on this Wiki page:
> <
> http://plugtest.opendocsociety.org/doku.php?id=plugfests:201509_thehague:info
> >.
>
> To see how these have operated, it is useful to look at the programs of
> prior plugfests starting with the two in 2009 (although some of the
> historical material seems to consist of placeholders).
>
> I have not been to any of these except vicariously as a member of the
> OASIS ODF Interoperability and Conformance (OIC) Technical Committee and as
> a participant in some of the planning.
>
> I see three matters that are useful to be present for.  Anyone could
> attend to participate as a contributor to Apache OpenOffice in those events:
>
>  1. The presentations on ODF adoption and also on developments of the ODF
> specifications
>  2. The subsequent presentations on implementation efforts, where 8 are
> listed so far, including Apache OpenOffice.
>  3. The Interop testing that occupies the remainder of the first day and
> all of the second day.  For this, it is desirable to show up with
> demonstration and test documents to interchanges and then inspect
> implementations.  This activity tends to be conducted in confidence,
> regrettably.  There is a sample scenario template to use in presenting
> tests.
>
> AOO PARTICIPATION
>
> For AOO, it would be good to have some simple presentation of status for
> (2) and to have some contributions (3) of tests or exemplary documents for
> which interoperability is a concern.
>
> Roberto has been on the calls for organization of the Plugtest and it is
> valuable that he is doing so.  His keeping us apprised of what AOO might do
> to contribute and to participate will be very helpful.
>
> I think if we create a portfolio of tests and a few slides on the status
> of AOO by mid-September, anyone could be present as an AOO participant.
>
> The Plugfests are obviously more amenable to participation by ODF experts
> and implementers that are based in Europe and we have able members of the
> AOO community there.
>
> MY PERSONAL PARTICIPATION
>
> I have always wanted to go to a Plugfest and never managed to arrange it.
> I think we have many able spokespersons.
>
> I do not have the means to travel to The Netherlands for this event.  I am
> willing to go, although it would be valuable to at least have someone more
> technically involved around interoperability testing.  I don't think it is
> necessary to have someone be an official of some form, whether PMC member
> or a Chair
>
> [Note: I learned that, in addition to not having the means, I have a
> conflict. ]
>
>
> Here at dev@ we can work up a status report that anyone could deliver and
> also development of any contributions to the interoperability testing that
> would be useful for cross-implementation demonstration/confirmation in
> those sessions.
>
> I am happy to cooperate in any way I can in the development of such
> materials.  I trust Roberto will continue to participate on the calls
> (since they tend to be at 6am in my local time).
>

I will surely do if any will be set, but I guess for this ODF-Plugfest
we're done. If someone - not me, as per my message on another thread I
can't commit to this now - is willing to go, we better give heads up to the
organizers so that a talk of us can be added to the agenda.

Roberto



>
> [Note: That was in July.  This is September already and my ability to
> assist here is severely limited, although I will do what I can.]
>
>  - Dennis
>
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FW: [DISCUSSION] ODF Plugfest, September 2015

2015-09-03 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
More information about the Plugfest for some who might not have noticed earlier.

I have edited this lightly to reflect the current status in my case.

- Dennis

-Original Message-
From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:orc...@apache.org] 
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2015 15:31
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: [DISCUSSION] ODF Plugfest, September 2015 (was RE: [NOMINATION] Dennis 
Hamilton ... )

Roberto mentions the forthcoming ODF Plugfest to be held September 15-16 at the 
Hague. 

WHAT THE ODF PLUGFEST IS 

Information about the Plugfest is on this Wiki page: 
.

To see how these have operated, it is useful to look at the programs of prior 
plugfests starting with the two in 2009 (although some of the historical 
material seems to consist of placeholders). 

I have not been to any of these except vicariously as a member of the OASIS ODF 
Interoperability and Conformance (OIC) Technical Committee and as a participant 
in some of the planning.

I see three matters that are useful to be present for.  Anyone could attend to 
participate as a contributor to Apache OpenOffice in those events: 

 1. The presentations on ODF adoption and also on developments of the ODF 
specifications
 2. The subsequent presentations on implementation efforts, where 8 are listed 
so far, including Apache OpenOffice.
 3. The Interop testing that occupies the remainder of the first day and all of 
the second day.  For this, it is desirable to show up with demonstration and 
test documents to interchanges and then inspect implementations.  This activity 
tends to be conducted in confidence, regrettably.  There is a sample scenario 
template to use in presenting tests.

AOO PARTICIPATION

For AOO, it would be good to have some simple presentation of status for (2) 
and to have some contributions (3) of tests or exemplary documents for which 
interoperability is a concern.

Roberto has been on the calls for organization of the Plugtest and it is 
valuable that he is doing so.  His keeping us apprised of what AOO might do to 
contribute and to participate will be very helpful.

I think if we create a portfolio of tests and a few slides on the status of AOO 
by mid-September, anyone could be present as an AOO participant.

The Plugfests are obviously more amenable to participation by ODF experts and 
implementers that are based in Europe and we have able members of the AOO 
community there.

MY PERSONAL PARTICIPATION

I have always wanted to go to a Plugfest and never managed to arrange it.  I 
think we have many able spokespersons.  

I do not have the means to travel to The Netherlands for this event.  I am 
willing to go, although it would be valuable to at least have someone more 
technically involved around interoperability testing.  I don't think it is 
necessary to have someone be an official of some form, whether PMC member or a 
Chair

[Note: I learned that, in addition to not having the means, I have a conflict. ]


Here at dev@ we can work up a status report that anyone could deliver and also 
development of any contributions to the interoperability testing that would be 
useful for cross-implementation demonstration/confirmation in those sessions.

I am happy to cooperate in any way I can in the development of such materials.  
I trust Roberto will continue to participate on the calls (since they tend to 
be at 6am in my local time).

[Note: That was in July.  This is September already and my ability to assist 
here is severely limited, although I will do what I can.]

 - Dennis

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