Re: Logo next steps
On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 11:16 PM, Kevin Grignon kevingrignon...@gmail.com wrote: I propose we take a final pass to prepare the logo for production. The vector artwork should be converted curves, the ff elements need to be combined, and some font kerning adjusted. Then we should document the logo on the AOO UX wiki. Who is preparing all the new graphics? Whoever volunteers. But if you have some specific changes in mind it would probably be faster to make them yourself and post a new SVG (or sent it to me) than to describe it in enough detail that I, without expertise in the area, can make the changes myself. In any case, if we are going to make changes to the master logo then let's do that first, before creating the bitmaps. -Rob Kevin On Jun 11, 2013, at 5:44 AM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 10:12 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 6:31 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: Rob Weir wrote: Now that the core decision making process is over, what are the next steps? Good, congratulations to Chris and it's good to see that the outcome was basically the ratification of the preferences 5000+ people had expressed in the survey. 1) I've sent Chris a note requesting the latest SVG. Once I receive it I'll check it in. Thanks, and I assume you will also take care of all licensing and paperwork. At a certain point in future we will claim this new logo as our trademark and I trust all appropriate steps are being taken in this respect too. 2) We should make an inventory of places where this logo should go. What sizes are needed, formats, background color (or alpha transparency), border requirements, location in SVN, etc. I would just add to your list: a square 100x100 icon for social media. Ideally, we should have it in place when OpenOffice 4 is released. I found this page which lists the various image sizes used by social networks: http://www.lunametrics.com/blog/2012/11/12/final-social-media-sizing-cheat-sheet/ It is more complicated than I realized. We'll probably want to target a specific bitmap rendering for each site, to have optimal quality. We can also do more than just a profile image, if we want, on some site. For example, on Twitter we can have a 520x260 Header Image in addition to the smaller profile photo. That would look them like this: https://twitter.com/dickc Facebook and Google+ have similar things, if we want to do more than just the profile photo. -Rob I just submitted a VERY quick mockup on the main website index page to (attachment to -- https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4+-+Websites ): https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/30752760/Apache+OpenOffice+-+The+Free+and+Open+Productivity+Suite.jpe if anyone wants to see how things are playing out so far. I went a bit too far with resizing so the logo size on this is actually 299 x 136 (I meant to stop at 300w). Only the png logo has been checked into staging and nothing else. Due to the way things get rendered with one branding area, only local setup can be used for show-and-tell I think. Top cropping (for realignment) obviously needs to be done but what else? Note: Previously it was mentioned that the number 4 had unlucky connotations in some cultures. So we need to include the version number as part of the logo in the splash screen and about box? We'd need to hear from them, but I would find it quite odd if we didn't include a 4 in the about box (and in the splash screen too). If this was version 13 (which is unlucky in other cultures), I would find equally odd to omit the 13 from the about box. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- MzK You can't believe one thing and do another. What you believe and what you do are the same thing. -- Leonard Peltier - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Logo next steps
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 6:26 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 11:16 PM, Kevin Grignon kevingrignon...@gmail.com wrote: I propose we take a final pass to prepare the logo for production. The vector artwork should be converted curves, the ff elements need to be combined, and some font kerning adjusted. Then we should document the logo on the AOO UX wiki. Who is preparing all the new graphics? Whoever volunteers. But if you have some specific changes in mind it would probably be faster to make them yourself and post a new SVG (or sent it to me) than to describe it in enough detail that I, without expertise in the area, can make the changes myself. In any case, if we are going to make changes to the master logo then let's do that first, before creating the bitmaps. Pardon if I missed this in earlier discussions, but...is the new logo going to apply to 4.0 and onward? Is it okay if 3.4.1 is associated with the old logo? Don
Re: Logo next steps
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 6:31 PM, Donald Whytock dwhyt...@apache.org wrote: On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 6:26 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 11:16 PM, Kevin Grignon kevingrignon...@gmail.com wrote: I propose we take a final pass to prepare the logo for production. The vector artwork should be converted curves, the ff elements need to be combined, and some font kerning adjusted. Then we should document the logo on the AOO UX wiki. Who is preparing all the new graphics? Whoever volunteers. But if you have some specific changes in mind it would probably be faster to make them yourself and post a new SVG (or sent it to me) than to describe it in enough detail that I, without expertise in the area, can make the changes myself. In any case, if we are going to make changes to the master logo then let's do that first, before creating the bitmaps. Pardon if I missed this in earlier discussions, but...is the new logo going to apply to 4.0 and onward? Is it okay if 3.4.1 is associated with the old logo? 3.4.1 includes the previous logo. That won't change. If, for example, we had to issue a 3.4.2 maintenance release I doubt we would update the logo there. But when we update the website, the new logo would be on all pages, including those pages that discuss 3.4.1 and earlier versions. This should be less confusing, IMHO, then the many places on the website and wiki where we still call ourselves OpenOffice.org. -Rob Don - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Logo next steps
On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 6:31 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: Rob Weir wrote: Now that the core decision making process is over, what are the next steps? Good, congratulations to Chris and it's good to see that the outcome was basically the ratification of the preferences 5000+ people had expressed in the survey. 1) I've sent Chris a note requesting the latest SVG. Once I receive it I'll check it in. Thanks, and I assume you will also take care of all licensing and paperwork. At a certain point in future we will claim this new logo as our trademark and I trust all appropriate steps are being taken in this respect too. 2) We should make an inventory of places where this logo should go. What sizes are needed, formats, background color (or alpha transparency), border requirements, location in SVN, etc. I would just add to your list: a square 100x100 icon for social media. Ideally, we should have it in place when OpenOffice 4 is released. I found this page which lists the various image sizes used by social networks: http://www.lunametrics.com/blog/2012/11/12/final-social-media-sizing-cheat-sheet/ It is more complicated than I realized. We'll probably want to target a specific bitmap rendering for each site, to have optimal quality. We can also do more than just a profile image, if we want, on some site. For example, on Twitter we can have a 520x260 Header Image in addition to the smaller profile photo. That would look them like this: https://twitter.com/dickc Facebook and Google+ have similar things, if we want to do more than just the profile photo. -Rob Note: Previously it was mentioned that the number 4 had unlucky connotations in some cultures. So we need to include the version number as part of the logo in the splash screen and about box? We'd need to hear from them, but I would find it quite odd if we didn't include a 4 in the about box (and in the splash screen too). If this was version 13 (which is unlucky in other cultures), I would find equally odd to omit the 13 from the about box. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Logo next steps
On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 10:12 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 6:31 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: Rob Weir wrote: Now that the core decision making process is over, what are the next steps? Good, congratulations to Chris and it's good to see that the outcome was basically the ratification of the preferences 5000+ people had expressed in the survey. 1) I've sent Chris a note requesting the latest SVG. Once I receive it I'll check it in. Thanks, and I assume you will also take care of all licensing and paperwork. At a certain point in future we will claim this new logo as our trademark and I trust all appropriate steps are being taken in this respect too. 2) We should make an inventory of places where this logo should go. What sizes are needed, formats, background color (or alpha transparency), border requirements, location in SVN, etc. I would just add to your list: a square 100x100 icon for social media. Ideally, we should have it in place when OpenOffice 4 is released. I found this page which lists the various image sizes used by social networks: http://www.lunametrics.com/blog/2012/11/12/final-social-media-sizing-cheat-sheet/ It is more complicated than I realized. We'll probably want to target a specific bitmap rendering for each site, to have optimal quality. We can also do more than just a profile image, if we want, on some site. For example, on Twitter we can have a 520x260 Header Image in addition to the smaller profile photo. That would look them like this: https://twitter.com/dickc Facebook and Google+ have similar things, if we want to do more than just the profile photo. -Rob I just submitted a VERY quick mockup on the main website index page to (attachment to -- https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4+-+Websites ): https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/30752760/Apache+OpenOffice+-+The+Free+and+Open+Productivity+Suite.jpe if anyone wants to see how things are playing out so far. I went a bit too far with resizing so the logo size on this is actually 299 x 136 (I meant to stop at 300w). Only the png logo has been checked into staging and nothing else. Due to the way things get rendered with one branding area, only local setup can be used for show-and-tell I think. Top cropping (for realignment) obviously needs to be done but what else? Note: Previously it was mentioned that the number 4 had unlucky connotations in some cultures. So we need to include the version number as part of the logo in the splash screen and about box? We'd need to hear from them, but I would find it quite odd if we didn't include a 4 in the about box (and in the splash screen too). If this was version 13 (which is unlucky in other cultures), I would find equally odd to omit the 13 from the about box. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- MzK You can't believe one thing and do another. What you believe and what you do are the same thing. -- Leonard Peltier
Re: Logo next steps
I propose we take a final pass to prepare the logo for production. The vector artwork should be converted curves, the ff elements need to be combined, and some font kerning adjusted. Then we should document the logo on the AOO UX wiki. Who is preparing all the new graphics? Kevin On Jun 11, 2013, at 5:44 AM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 10:12 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 6:31 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: Rob Weir wrote: Now that the core decision making process is over, what are the next steps? Good, congratulations to Chris and it's good to see that the outcome was basically the ratification of the preferences 5000+ people had expressed in the survey. 1) I've sent Chris a note requesting the latest SVG. Once I receive it I'll check it in. Thanks, and I assume you will also take care of all licensing and paperwork. At a certain point in future we will claim this new logo as our trademark and I trust all appropriate steps are being taken in this respect too. 2) We should make an inventory of places where this logo should go. What sizes are needed, formats, background color (or alpha transparency), border requirements, location in SVN, etc. I would just add to your list: a square 100x100 icon for social media. Ideally, we should have it in place when OpenOffice 4 is released. I found this page which lists the various image sizes used by social networks: http://www.lunametrics.com/blog/2012/11/12/final-social-media-sizing-cheat-sheet/ It is more complicated than I realized. We'll probably want to target a specific bitmap rendering for each site, to have optimal quality. We can also do more than just a profile image, if we want, on some site. For example, on Twitter we can have a 520x260 Header Image in addition to the smaller profile photo. That would look them like this: https://twitter.com/dickc Facebook and Google+ have similar things, if we want to do more than just the profile photo. -Rob I just submitted a VERY quick mockup on the main website index page to (attachment to -- https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4+-+Websites ): https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/30752760/Apache+OpenOffice+-+The+Free+and+Open+Productivity+Suite.jpe if anyone wants to see how things are playing out so far. I went a bit too far with resizing so the logo size on this is actually 299 x 136 (I meant to stop at 300w). Only the png logo has been checked into staging and nothing else. Due to the way things get rendered with one branding area, only local setup can be used for show-and-tell I think. Top cropping (for realignment) obviously needs to be done but what else? Note: Previously it was mentioned that the number 4 had unlucky connotations in some cultures. So we need to include the version number as part of the logo in the splash screen and about box? We'd need to hear from them, but I would find it quite odd if we didn't include a 4 in the about box (and in the splash screen too). If this was version 13 (which is unlucky in other cultures), I would find equally odd to omit the 13 from the about box. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- MzK You can't believe one thing and do another. What you believe and what you do are the same thing. -- Leonard Peltier - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Logo next steps
On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 10:31 PM, Samer Mansour samer...@gmail.com wrote: Congrats Chris! Ok girls and guys, I've already made a dent in documenting where the logo appears in the different sections: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4+-+Application+And+Launcher I don't have sizes, but I want to review those sections and document new sizes with some wireframes what it would look like. Some of the layout could use some polishing which I could help with. I could generate the smaller images, fav icons, etc. once we have the SVG. I could check out and in changes, both code and resource files like images. A quick thought on the workflow. Abstractly we'll probably want a master image SVG file and then a set of defined steps (a recipe) that gets us from the master SVG to each of bitmap images we'll need. This is probably not something that can be entirely automated, but we could have steps in a text file stored parallel to the source, or on the wiki. For example, to produce the website logo from the master: 1) Remove the version number from the master logo 2) Crop to specified aspect ratio, with specified centering of the logo 3) Export to PNG, with alpha transparency, with specified dimensions Something like that (with the details specified, obviously) That way, if we ever need to tweak the logo master SVG we can consistently generate the derived versions. -Rob Samer On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 6:31 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: Rob Weir wrote: Now that the core decision making process is over, what are the next steps? Good, congratulations to Chris and it's good to see that the outcome was basically the ratification of the preferences 5000+ people had expressed in the survey. 1) I've sent Chris a note requesting the latest SVG. Once I receive it I'll check it in. Thanks, and I assume you will also take care of all licensing and paperwork. At a certain point in future we will claim this new logo as our trademark and I trust all appropriate steps are being taken in this respect too. 2) We should make an inventory of places where this logo should go. What sizes are needed, formats, background color (or alpha transparency), border requirements, location in SVN, etc. I would just add to your list: a square 100x100 icon for social media. Ideally, we should have it in place when OpenOffice 4 is released. Note: Previously it was mentioned that the number 4 had unlucky connotations in some cultures. So we need to include the version number as part of the logo in the splash screen and about box? We'd need to hear from them, but I would find it quite odd if we didn't include a 4 in the about box (and in the splash screen too). If this was version 13 (which is unlucky in other cultures), I would find equally odd to omit the 13 from the about box. Regards, Andrea. --**--**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.**apache.orgdev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Logo next steps
On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 10:31 PM, Samer Mansour samer...@gmail.com wrote: Congrats Chris! Ok girls and guys, I've already made a dent in documenting where the logo appears in the different sections: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4+-+Application+And+Launcher Good. I don't have sizes, but I want to review those sections and document new sizes with some wireframes what it would look like. Some of the layout could use some polishing which I could help with. We need some help from the developers to identify where in the source tree this lives. I could generate the smaller images, fav icons, etc. once we have the SVG. I could check out and in changes, both code and resource files like images. I've checked in Chris's logo source files here: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/marketing/art/galleries/logos/aoo-working/ As the name suggests, this is a working folder for now, until we figure out what we're doing. Note: you'll need to download and install the Source Sans Pro font if you have not done that already. Regards, -Rob Samer On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 6:31 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: Rob Weir wrote: Now that the core decision making process is over, what are the next steps? Good, congratulations to Chris and it's good to see that the outcome was basically the ratification of the preferences 5000+ people had expressed in the survey. 1) I've sent Chris a note requesting the latest SVG. Once I receive it I'll check it in. Thanks, and I assume you will also take care of all licensing and paperwork. At a certain point in future we will claim this new logo as our trademark and I trust all appropriate steps are being taken in this respect too. 2) We should make an inventory of places where this logo should go. What sizes are needed, formats, background color (or alpha transparency), border requirements, location in SVN, etc. I would just add to your list: a square 100x100 icon for social media. Ideally, we should have it in place when OpenOffice 4 is released. Note: Previously it was mentioned that the number 4 had unlucky connotations in some cultures. So we need to include the version number as part of the logo in the splash screen and about box? We'd need to hear from them, but I would find it quite odd if we didn't include a 4 in the about box (and in the splash screen too). If this was version 13 (which is unlucky in other cultures), I would find equally odd to omit the 13 from the about box. Regards, Andrea. --**--**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.**apache.orgdev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Logo next steps
Rob Weir wrote: Now that the core decision making process is over, what are the next steps? Good, congratulations to Chris and it's good to see that the outcome was basically the ratification of the preferences 5000+ people had expressed in the survey. 1) I've sent Chris a note requesting the latest SVG. Once I receive it I'll check it in. Thanks, and I assume you will also take care of all licensing and paperwork. At a certain point in future we will claim this new logo as our trademark and I trust all appropriate steps are being taken in this respect too. 2) We should make an inventory of places where this logo should go. What sizes are needed, formats, background color (or alpha transparency), border requirements, location in SVN, etc. I would just add to your list: a square 100x100 icon for social media. Ideally, we should have it in place when OpenOffice 4 is released. Note: Previously it was mentioned that the number 4 had unlucky connotations in some cultures. So we need to include the version number as part of the logo in the splash screen and about box? We'd need to hear from them, but I would find it quite odd if we didn't include a 4 in the about box (and in the splash screen too). If this was version 13 (which is unlucky in other cultures), I would find equally odd to omit the 13 from the about box. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Logo next steps
Congrats Chris! Ok girls and guys, I've already made a dent in documenting where the logo appears in the different sections: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4+-+Application+And+Launcher I don't have sizes, but I want to review those sections and document new sizes with some wireframes what it would look like. Some of the layout could use some polishing which I could help with. I could generate the smaller images, fav icons, etc. once we have the SVG. I could check out and in changes, both code and resource files like images. Samer On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 6:31 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: Rob Weir wrote: Now that the core decision making process is over, what are the next steps? Good, congratulations to Chris and it's good to see that the outcome was basically the ratification of the preferences 5000+ people had expressed in the survey. 1) I've sent Chris a note requesting the latest SVG. Once I receive it I'll check it in. Thanks, and I assume you will also take care of all licensing and paperwork. At a certain point in future we will claim this new logo as our trademark and I trust all appropriate steps are being taken in this respect too. 2) We should make an inventory of places where this logo should go. What sizes are needed, formats, background color (or alpha transparency), border requirements, location in SVN, etc. I would just add to your list: a square 100x100 icon for social media. Ideally, we should have it in place when OpenOffice 4 is released. Note: Previously it was mentioned that the number 4 had unlucky connotations in some cultures. So we need to include the version number as part of the logo in the splash screen and about box? We'd need to hear from them, but I would find it quite odd if we didn't include a 4 in the about box (and in the splash screen too). If this was version 13 (which is unlucky in other cultures), I would find equally odd to omit the 13 from the about box. Regards, Andrea. --**--**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.**apache.orgdev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Logo next steps
Some ideas: 1) I'm hoping we start seeing revisions of logos by Monday so we can take it to the next stage. Post them to the wiki. You can add your logo to the wiki here: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Stage+2+Logo+Refinement 2) Let's then discuss on the list and see if we can come to a consensus on the single logo to go with. Aim for a decision within a week, if possible. I'd rather avoid another survey. A few ways we could do this. We could discuss and by process of elimination converge on a single logo. Or maybe we ask each designer to vote for one logo, but they can't vote on their own? (Or would that be too dramatic?) Or, as a last resort we could ask the PMC to decide. But it is best if we can reach consensus instead of voting. We all know that we'll have only one logo in the end. 3) When we settle onto a logo, we'll need to get the vector source files uploaded. I can help with that. 4) We'll then need to make a variety of bitmap treatments of the logo. We'll need one for the website. Different ones for avatars for our Twitter, Google+ and Facebook pages. One for the Help/About dialog in the product. Possibly a more elaborate treatment for the splash screen, where we can create a larger image that includes the logo. We'll also want a much simplified and smaller treatment for the favicon. We can share these tasks. We don't need the original designer to do it all, once we have picked the main logo. We can even start now to collect technical requirements of these treatments, such as aspect ratio, 4) There are other elements of the brand refresh that we should look at as well, like updating toolbar icons. The connection to the logo is subtle here. I think it has more to do with the color palette, degree of saturation, lighting effects, etc. I am not a designer, so we really need someone with expertise to step up and make a proposal here on what we should do. Regards, -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Logo next steps
Dear Mr.Rob Weir, I want to view the voting result. Can you send me the link once again? I have deleted by oversight. I want to know on what basis the short listing has been done With Warm Regards V.Kadal Amutham 919444360480 914422396480 On 11 May 2013 01:33, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: Some ideas: 1) I'm hoping we start seeing revisions of logos by Monday so we can take it to the next stage. Post them to the wiki. You can add your logo to the wiki here: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Stage+2+Logo+Refinement 2) Let's then discuss on the list and see if we can come to a consensus on the single logo to go with. Aim for a decision within a week, if possible. I'd rather avoid another survey. A few ways we could do this. We could discuss and by process of elimination converge on a single logo. Or maybe we ask each designer to vote for one logo, but they can't vote on their own? (Or would that be too dramatic?) Or, as a last resort we could ask the PMC to decide. But it is best if we can reach consensus instead of voting. We all know that we'll have only one logo in the end. 3) When we settle onto a logo, we'll need to get the vector source files uploaded. I can help with that. 4) We'll then need to make a variety of bitmap treatments of the logo. We'll need one for the website. Different ones for avatars for our Twitter, Google+ and Facebook pages. One for the Help/About dialog in the product. Possibly a more elaborate treatment for the splash screen, where we can create a larger image that includes the logo. We'll also want a much simplified and smaller treatment for the favicon. We can share these tasks. We don't need the original designer to do it all, once we have picked the main logo. We can even start now to collect technical requirements of these treatments, such as aspect ratio, 4) There are other elements of the brand refresh that we should look at as well, like updating toolbar icons. The connection to the logo is subtle here. I think it has more to do with the color palette, degree of saturation, lighting effects, etc. I am not a designer, so we really need someone with expertise to step up and make a proposal here on what we should do. Regards, -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: marketing-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: marketing-h...@openoffice.apache.org