Re: OS for main AOO buildbots

[Kay Schenk]

On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 5:12 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:

> Hi Kay,
>
> On Tue, Apr 02, 2013 at 04:33:05PM -0700, Kay Schenk wrote:
> > Well, Ok. I think we need to maintain a secure environment with
> > anything used for our builds -- libraries, etc. That would be my only
> > concern with "older" items.
>
> CentOS 5 is currently being maintained; in fact, the "latest and
> greatest" 5 version has been released on January 2013
> http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-announce/2013-January/019205.html
>
> CentOS 5 will get full updates until Q1 2014, and maintenance updates
> until March 31st, 2017
> http://wiki.centos.org/About/Product
>
> http://wiki.centos.org/FAQ/General#head-fe8a0be91ee3e7dea812e8694491e1dde5b75e6d
>
> This means there will be security and other critical bug fixes until
> 2017, while maintaining the kernel and glibc base (2.6.18 and 2.5,
> respectively).
>
> You won't find this in other distros, not even Debian (squeeze has
> glibc-2.11 http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/glibc-2.11-1), which is
> known for "stability than cutting-edge packages".
>
>
> Regards
> --
> Ariel Constenla-Haile
> La Plata, Argentina
>

Good to know! Thanks. I'm just not familiar with CentOS.

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Re: OS for main AOO buildbots

[Ariel Constenla-Haile]

Hi Kay,

On Tue, Apr 02, 2013 at 04:33:05PM -0700, Kay Schenk wrote:
> Well, Ok. I think we need to maintain a secure environment with
> anything used for our builds -- libraries, etc. That would be my only
> concern with "older" items.

CentOS 5 is currently being maintained; in fact, the "latest and
greatest" 5 version has been released on January 2013
http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-announce/2013-January/019205.html

CentOS 5 will get full updates until Q1 2014, and maintenance updates
until March 31st, 2017 
http://wiki.centos.org/About/Product
http://wiki.centos.org/FAQ/General#head-fe8a0be91ee3e7dea812e8694491e1dde5b75e6d

This means there will be security and other critical bug fixes until
2017, while maintaining the kernel and glibc base (2.6.18 and 2.5,
respectively).

You won't find this in other distros, not even Debian (squeeze has
glibc-2.11 http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/glibc-2.11-1), which is
known for "stability than cutting-edge packages".


Regards
-- 
Ariel Constenla-Haile
La Plata, Argentina


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Re: OS for main AOO buildbots

[Oliver-Rainer Wittmann]

Hi,

On 03.04.2013 00:37, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

Andrew Rist wrote:

What version of CentOS do we want on this machine? We want the snapshot
builds to be fully usable.


I'll write here the reasoning behind this, so that it can be corrected
if needed.

Ariel's special version available at http://www.openoffice.org/porting/
uses glibc 2.5. It satisfies all users, including Red Hat 5 (and, fully
compatible, CentOS 5) users. So adopting this as a baseline should
guarantee that our binaries run on almost all vendor-supported
distributions. Red Hat 5 and CentOS 5 are quite old but still supported
from their vendors, and reasonably common in corporate environments.



Ariel's input would be very valuable here as I agree to Andrea that we 
should try to statisfy as much user's environments as possible.



Best regards, Oliver.

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Re: OS for main AOO buildbots

[Kay Schenk]

On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 3:37 PM, Andrea Pescetti  wrote:

> Andrew Rist wrote:
>
>> What version of CentOS do we want on this machine? We want the snapshot
>> builds to be fully usable.
>>
>
> I'll write here the reasoning behind this, so that it can be corrected if
> needed.
>
> Ariel's special version available at 
> http://www.openoffice.org/**porting/uses 
> glibc 2.5. It satisfies all users, including Red Hat 5 (and, fully
> compatible, CentOS 5) users. So adopting this as a baseline should
> guarantee that our binaries run on almost all vendor-supported
> distributions. Red Hat 5 and CentOS 5 are quite old but still supported
> from their vendors, and reasonably common in corporate environments.
>
> Regards,
>   Andrea.


Well, Ok. I think we need to maintain a secure environment with anything
used for our builds -- libraries, etc. That would be my only concern with
"older" items.



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Re: OS for main AOO buildbots

[Andrea Pescetti]

Andrew Rist wrote:

What version of CentOS do we want on this machine? We want the snapshot
builds to be fully usable.


I'll write here the reasoning behind this, so that it can be corrected 
if needed.


Ariel's special version available at http://www.openoffice.org/porting/ 
uses glibc 2.5. It satisfies all users, including Red Hat 5 (and, fully 
compatible, CentOS 5) users. So adopting this as a baseline should 
guarantee that our binaries run on almost all vendor-supported 
distributions. Red Hat 5 and CentOS 5 are quite old but still supported 
from their vendors, and reasonably common in corporate environments.


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: OS for main AOO buildbots

[Kay Schenk]

On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 2:30 PM, Andrew Rist  wrote:

> In discussions with infra, (mine and Andrea's) an idea has been hatched to
> create a CentOS buildbot.
> This would replace the defunct linux32 bot (previously ubuntu 10.4).
> In addition to changing the OS, we will also build this on the machine
> currently hosting the linux64 build.
> That bot has a whole machine to itself, so instead of a lightly used
> linux64 bot, the idea is to have a heavily
> used linux32 bot, with a flow for (most) every branch, for snapshots, and
> potentially for automated testing.
>
> Here's the question:
>
> What version of CentOS do we want on this machine?  We want the snapshot
> builds to be fully usable.
> (are there any other requirements we need to consider when building this
> machine?)
>

Wellthis is interesting. I don't know much about CentOS but just
briefly taking a look just now, I don't see any reason to NOT use the
latest and greatest -- CentOS 6. Others opinions may vary. :)

I can't determine the openJDK for this release. CentOS 5 has this bit of
info --

java-1.70-openjdk


I think the old buildbot was using openJDK 6.0.



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OS for main AOO buildbots

[Andrew Rist]

In discussions with infra, (mine and Andrea's) an idea has been hatched 
to create a CentOS buildbot.

This would replace the defunct linux32 bot (previously ubuntu 10.4).
In addition to changing the OS, we will also build this on the machine 
currently hosting the linux64 build.
That bot has a whole machine to itself, so instead of a lightly used 
linux64 bot, the idea is to have a heavily
used linux32 bot, with a flow for (most) every branch, for snapshots, 
and potentially for automated testing.


Here's the question:

What version of CentOS do we want on this machine?  We want the snapshot 
builds to be fully usable.
(are there any other requirements we need to consider when building this 
machine?)



A.


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