[dev] why does it leak so hard?

2010-03-08 Thread Oleg Mikheev
Hi guys and girls,

I'm doing a rather primitive thing: load and close a document.
Question: why does it make OO grow 50Mb/minute?
Code:

import com.sun.star.beans.PropertyValue;
import com.sun.star.frame.XComponentLoader;
import com.sun.star.lang.XComponent;
import com.sun.star.lang.XMultiComponentFactory;
import com.sun.star.uno.UnoRuntime;
import com.sun.star.uno.XComponentContext;
import com.sun.star.util.CloseVetoException;
import com.sun.star.util.XCloseable;

public class Test2 {

public static void main(String[] args) throws Exception {
XComponentContext xCompContext =
com.sun.star.comp.helper.Bootstrap.bootstrap();
XMultiComponentFactory xMCF = xCompContext.getServiceManager();
Object xDesktop =
xMCF.createInstanceWithContext(com.sun.star.frame.Desktop, xCompContext);
XComponentLoader aLoader =
UnoRuntime.queryInterface(XComponentLoader.class, xDesktop);
PropertyValue[] loadProps = new PropertyValue[]{new
PropertyValue(Hidden, 0, true, null)};
while (true) {
XComponent xComponent =
aLoader.loadComponentFromURL(file:///tmp/demo.ods, _blank, 0,
loadProps);
close(xComponent);
}
}

private static void close(XComponent xComponent) {
XCloseable xCloseable = 
UnoRuntime.queryInterface(XCloseable.class,
xComponent);
if (xCloseable != null) {
try {
xCloseable.close(false);
} catch (CloseVetoException e) {}
} else xComponent.dispose();
}
}

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Re: [dev] why does it leak so hard?

2010-03-08 Thread Stephan Bergmann

On 03/07/10 20:09, Oleg Mikheev wrote:

Hi guys and girls,

I'm doing a rather primitive thing: load and close a document.
Question: why does it make OO grow 50Mb/minute?


The Java-side proxy objects (referenced through variable xComponent) 
keep the OOo-side XComponent objects (representing the opened documents) 
alive until the JVM garbage collector decides to finalize them. 
Presumably, large parts of the OOo data structures for such a document 
are only released once the XComponent object is destroyed, and not 
already when XCloseable.close is called.


-Stephan


Code:

import com.sun.star.beans.PropertyValue;
import com.sun.star.frame.XComponentLoader;
import com.sun.star.lang.XComponent;
import com.sun.star.lang.XMultiComponentFactory;
import com.sun.star.uno.UnoRuntime;
import com.sun.star.uno.XComponentContext;
import com.sun.star.util.CloseVetoException;
import com.sun.star.util.XCloseable;

public class Test2 {

public static void main(String[] args) throws Exception {
XComponentContext xCompContext =
com.sun.star.comp.helper.Bootstrap.bootstrap();
XMultiComponentFactory xMCF = xCompContext.getServiceManager();
Object xDesktop =
xMCF.createInstanceWithContext(com.sun.star.frame.Desktop, xCompContext);
XComponentLoader aLoader =
UnoRuntime.queryInterface(XComponentLoader.class, xDesktop);
PropertyValue[] loadProps = new PropertyValue[]{new
PropertyValue(Hidden, 0, true, null)};
while (true) {
XComponent xComponent =
aLoader.loadComponentFromURL(file:///tmp/demo.ods, _blank, 0,
loadProps);
close(xComponent);
}
}

private static void close(XComponent xComponent) {
XCloseable xCloseable = 
UnoRuntime.queryInterface(XCloseable.class,
xComponent);
if (xCloseable != null) {
try {
xCloseable.close(false);
} catch (CloseVetoException e) {}
} else xComponent.dispose();
}
}



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Re: [dev] Call for Nominations for Community Council Seats

2010-03-08 Thread Martin Hollmichel

Hi,

I nominate Eike Rathke as my successor for the code contributor 
representative position.


Eike is co-lead of the Spreadsheet and L10N project and made tremendous 
contributions to the project in the last 10 years.


It was a quite interesting time for past 6 years in the council but I 
think the time has come to step back for some fresh, new people. I'm 
looking forward to support the work of the council as a regular member 
of the project.


Martin



Louis Suarez-Potts wrote:

[Apologies for duplicate post: this list was missed in Friday's general 
announcement. lsp]

All,

On behalf of the Community Council, I would like to announce the new round of 
elections for the Council and start the process by asking the OpenOffice.org 
Community members to nominate those they think would best contribute both to 
the Council and to OpenOffice.org. You may nominate yourself.

Consider doing that. Or nominate someone you think has been particularly valuable for the project; he or she need not be a developer! This cycle, like the first one last year, is important. OpenOffice.org is ten this year and the eyes of the world are looking upon us with eagerness to see how we work with business, government, education, and individuals. Your voice, your input, your experience is needed to take OOo into its next decade. 


The rules for the process are detailed in a wiki on the subject.[0] I won't 
bore you by repeating them here; please visit the wiki page.

Several categories of OpenOffice.org contributors make up the Council, for a total of ten persons. Those categories cover the breadth of OpenOffice.org and are detailed below. All but one, the permanent Sun/Oracle representative, are elected by community vote as stipulated in the Election Process Proposal. That seat is held by Stefan Taxhet. The terms of Pavel Janík, Martin Hollmichel and John McCreesh have reached their end and their seats are up for election. On behalf of all, I'd like to thank them for their long and immensely productive contributions to the Council! 

The seats open for election include a Native Language Confederation Representative (the seat now held by Pavel), a Code Contributor Representative (Martin) and Product Development Representative (John). Community members only vote for those who will represent the constituency: developers vote for the developer seat, product development for that seat, and so on. You will receive an email informing you of your constituency; this is based on your role in the Project. 



Details about the nomination: 
==


The nomination process is normally allotted one week dated from this post; 
however, the last time we went through this, last year, we were asked to give 
more time for nominations, and so this time around, we are allowing two weeks 
for nominations commencing 1 March and ending 15 March at 24:00 UTC. We will be 
using tried and true technology for the actual voting: the Survey machine, and 
only Community Members will be allowed to vote. Results will be posted in 
accordance with the published Election Process Proposal and a copy of this 
message will also be posted to the wiki at  
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Community_Council/Items/call_for_nominations_201003.[1]
  A commissary will help coordinate the election process, and I'll serve in 
that role. The observers will be Sophie Gautier and Drew Jensen, as with last 
year's election.

This announcement will be posted to the relevant public lists, as detailed in 
the Election Process wiki:dev@openoffice.org, d...@native_lang.openoffice.org, 
disc...@openoffice.org as well as d...@l10n.openoffice.org and 
project_le...@openoffice.org.

Again, consider nominating yourself or someone equally interesting. We need 
energetic contributors who understand the Project and have a sense of its 
dynamic and potential. The world is changing--we know that-- and to make sure 
it changes for the better, join us on the Council.

Louis

[0] 
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Community_Council/Items/Election_Process_Proposal
[1] 
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Community_Council/Items/call_for_nominations_201003


--
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Re: [dev] A Brand Refresh for OpenOffice.org (was Re: Changes to Site/Product Elements due to Oracle Acquisition)

2010-03-08 Thread Stefan Taxhet (sonews)

Hi Andrea,

You may want to join the Branding Initiative
 http://marketing.openoffice.org/brand

Greetings
Stefan

Andrea Chiumenti wrote:

Hi Stefan,
do we have an svg for the text logo.

If not which fonts are used ?

I'd like to make the text logo a bit more sexy

Ciao,
kiuma

2010/3/4 Stefan Taxhet stefan.tax...@sun.com


All,

During the last 10 years OpenOffice.org has evolved to a quite large
project in the FLOSS world and a successful product in the office
productivity suite market. Together with our product the OpenOffice.org
brand spread over the world. This brand has a tradition of quality and
it remains faithful to its origins.

For an impression of the first two rebrushed elements - the logo and a
symbol - have a look at
 http://www.openoffice.org/trademark/brandrefresh.html

Instead of a complete new design we started a refresh. While it seems
always hard to adapt all input the changes point out the key components
and improves the overall impression to gain even more strength and
confidence.

These elements will find their way into the next version of our product
together with the changes that are necessary due to the Oracle
acquisition as announced earlier.

The just founded Branding Initiative will be the home for the work enabling
us to use a consistent design. Your are welcome to join the continuation of
this effort in this environment.

Greetings
Stefan


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Re: [dev] Call for Nominations for Community Council Seats

2010-03-08 Thread Pavel Janík
I nominate Eike Rathke as my successor for the code contributor  
representative position.


Big +1 for Eike.

It was a quite interesting time for past 6 years in the council but  
I think the time has come to step back for some fresh, new  
people. I'm looking forward to support the work of the council as a  
regular member of the project.


Martin, you are not regular. You are extraordinary in thinking both  
as a manager and as a developer...

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Re: [dev] A Brand Refresh for OpenOffice.org (was Re: Changes to Site/Product Elements due to Oracle Acquisition)

2010-03-08 Thread Andrea Chiumenti
what do you think/suggest about this ?

2010/3/8 Stefan Taxhet (sonews) stefan.tax...@sun.com

 Hi Andrea,

 You may want to join the Branding Initiative
  http://marketing.openoffice.org/brand

 Greetings
 Stefan


 Andrea Chiumenti wrote:

 Hi Stefan,
 do we have an svg for the text logo.

 If not which fonts are used ?

 I'd like to make the text logo a bit more sexy

 Ciao,
 kiuma

 2010/3/4 Stefan Taxhet stefan.tax...@sun.com

  All,

 During the last 10 years OpenOffice.org has evolved to a quite large
 project in the FLOSS world and a successful product in the office
 productivity suite market. Together with our product the OpenOffice.org
 brand spread over the world. This brand has a tradition of quality and
 it remains faithful to its origins.

 For an impression of the first two rebrushed elements - the logo and a
 symbol - have a look at
  http://www.openoffice.org/trademark/brandrefresh.html

 Instead of a complete new design we started a refresh. While it seems
 always hard to adapt all input the changes point out the key components
 and improves the overall impression to gain even more strength and
 confidence.

 These elements will find their way into the next version of our product
 together with the changes that are necessary due to the Oracle
 acquisition as announced earlier.

 The just founded Branding Initiative will be the home for the work
 enabling
 us to use a consistent design. Your are welcome to join the continuation
 of
 this effort in this environment.

 Greetings
 Stefan


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Re: [dev] A Brand Refresh for OpenOffice.org (was Re: Changes to Site/Product Elements due to Oracle Acquisition)

2010-03-08 Thread Andrea Chiumenti
personally I think that the two gulls (my version) should be reworked, what
do you think about ?
2010/3/8 Andrea Chiumenti kium...@gmail.com

 what do you think/suggest about this ?

 2010/3/8 Stefan Taxhet (sonews) stefan.tax...@sun.com

 Hi Andrea,

 You may want to join the Branding Initiative
  http://marketing.openoffice.org/brand

 Greetings
 Stefan


 Andrea Chiumenti wrote:

 Hi Stefan,
 do we have an svg for the text logo.

 If not which fonts are used ?

 I'd like to make the text logo a bit more sexy

 Ciao,
 kiuma

 2010/3/4 Stefan Taxhet stefan.tax...@sun.com

  All,

 During the last 10 years OpenOffice.org has evolved to a quite large
 project in the FLOSS world and a successful product in the office
 productivity suite market. Together with our product the OpenOffice.org
 brand spread over the world. This brand has a tradition of quality and
 it remains faithful to its origins.

 For an impression of the first two rebrushed elements - the logo and a
 symbol - have a look at
  http://www.openoffice.org/trademark/brandrefresh.html

 Instead of a complete new design we started a refresh. While it seems
 always hard to adapt all input the changes point out the key components
 and improves the overall impression to gain even more strength and
 confidence.

 These elements will find their way into the next version of our product
 together with the changes that are necessary due to the Oracle
 acquisition as announced earlier.

 The just founded Branding Initiative will be the home for the work
 enabling
 us to use a consistent design. Your are welcome to join the continuation
 of
 this effort in this environment.

 Greetings
 Stefan


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Re: [dev] A Brand Refresh for OpenOffice.org (was Re: Changes to Site/Product Elements due to Oracle Acquisition)

2010-03-08 Thread Konstantin Tokarev

 personally I think that the two gulls (my version) should be reworked, what
 do you think about ?

I also think they should be reworked (IMHO). Maybe it's worth to change font? 
or make birds' color slightly different from text

 2010/3/8 Andrea Chiumenti 
  what do you think/suggest about this ?
 
  2010/3/8 Stefan Taxhet (sonews) 
 
  Hi Andrea,
 
  You may want to join the Branding Initiative
   http://marketing.openoffice.org/brand
 
  Greetings
  Stefan
 
 
  Andrea Chiumenti wrote:
 
  Hi Stefan,
  do we have an svg for the text logo.
 
  If not which fonts are used ?
 
  I'd like to make the text logo a bit more sexy
 
  Ciao,
  kiuma
 
  2010/3/4 Stefan Taxhet 
 
   All,
 
  During the last 10 years OpenOffice.org has evolved to a quite large
  project in the FLOSS world and a successful product in the office
  productivity suite market. Together with our product the OpenOffice.org
  brand spread over the world. This brand has a tradition of quality and
  it remains faithful to its origins.
 
  For an impression of the first two rebrushed elements - the logo and a
  symbol - have a look at
   http://www.openoffice.org/trademark/brandrefresh.html
 
  Instead of a complete new design we started a refresh. While it seems
  always hard to adapt all input the changes point out the key components
  and improves the overall impression to gain even more strength and
  confidence.
 
  These elements will find their way into the next version of our product
  together with the changes that are necessary due to the Oracle
  acquisition as announced earlier.
 
  The just founded Branding Initiative will be the home for the work
  enabling
  us to use a consistent design. Your are welcome to join the continuation
  of
  this effort in this environment.
 
  Greetings
  Stefan
 
 
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Re: [dev] A Brand Refresh for OpenOffice.org (was Re: Changes to Site/Product Elements due to Oracle Acquisition)

2010-03-08 Thread Andrea Chiumenti
For the font I used the one provided with original svg, (personally I'd
prefer it a bit more round). I'll try to make gulls more glossy

2010/3/8 Konstantin Tokarev annu...@yandex.ru


  personally I think that the two gulls (my version) should be reworked,
 what
  do you think about ?

 I also think they should be reworked (IMHO). Maybe it's worth to change
 font? or make birds' color slightly different from text

  2010/3/8 Andrea Chiumenti
   what do you think/suggest about this ?
  
   2010/3/8 Stefan Taxhet (sonews)
  
   Hi Andrea,
  
   You may want to join the Branding Initiative
http://marketing.openoffice.org/brand
  
   Greetings
   Stefan
  
  
   Andrea Chiumenti wrote:
  
   Hi Stefan,
   do we have an svg for the text logo.
  
   If not which fonts are used ?
  
   I'd like to make the text logo a bit more sexy
  
   Ciao,
   kiuma
  
   2010/3/4 Stefan Taxhet
  
All,
  
   During the last 10 years OpenOffice.org has evolved to a quite large
   project in the FLOSS world and a successful product in the office
   productivity suite market. Together with our product the
 OpenOffice.org
   brand spread over the world. This brand has a tradition of quality
 and
   it remains faithful to its origins.
  
   For an impression of the first two rebrushed elements - the logo and
 a
   symbol - have a look at
http://www.openoffice.org/trademark/brandrefresh.html
  
   Instead of a complete new design we started a refresh. While it
 seems
   always hard to adapt all input the changes point out the key
 components
   and improves the overall impression to gain even more strength and
   confidence.
  
   These elements will find their way into the next version of our
 product
   together with the changes that are necessary due to the Oracle
   acquisition as announced earlier.
  
   The just founded Branding Initiative will be the home for the work
   enabling
   us to use a consistent design. Your are welcome to join the
 continuation
   of
   this effort in this environment.
  
   Greetings
   Stefan
  
  
  
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Re: [dev] A Brand Refresh for OpenOffice.org (was Re: Changes to Site/Product Elements due to Oracle Acquisition)

2010-03-08 Thread Andrea Chiumenti
what about this one ?

2010/3/8 Andrea Chiumenti kium...@gmail.com

 For the font I used the one provided with original svg, (personally I'd
 prefer it a bit more round). I'll try to make gulls more glossy

 2010/3/8 Konstantin Tokarev annu...@yandex.ru


  personally I think that the two gulls (my version) should be reworked,
 what
  do you think about ?

 I also think they should be reworked (IMHO). Maybe it's worth to change
 font? or make birds' color slightly different from text

  2010/3/8 Andrea Chiumenti
   what do you think/suggest about this ?
  
   2010/3/8 Stefan Taxhet (sonews)
  
   Hi Andrea,
  
   You may want to join the Branding Initiative
http://marketing.openoffice.org/brand
  
   Greetings
   Stefan
  
  
   Andrea Chiumenti wrote:
  
   Hi Stefan,
   do we have an svg for the text logo.
  
   If not which fonts are used ?
  
   I'd like to make the text logo a bit more sexy
  
   Ciao,
   kiuma
  
   2010/3/4 Stefan Taxhet
  
All,
  
   During the last 10 years OpenOffice.org has evolved to a quite
 large
   project in the FLOSS world and a successful product in the office
   productivity suite market. Together with our product the
 OpenOffice.org
   brand spread over the world. This brand has a tradition of quality
 and
   it remains faithful to its origins.
  
   For an impression of the first two rebrushed elements - the logo
 and a
   symbol - have a look at
http://www.openoffice.org/trademark/brandrefresh.html
  
   Instead of a complete new design we started a refresh. While it
 seems
   always hard to adapt all input the changes point out the key
 components
   and improves the overall impression to gain even more strength and
   confidence.
  
   These elements will find their way into the next version of our
 product
   together with the changes that are necessary due to the Oracle
   acquisition as announced earlier.
  
   The just founded Branding Initiative will be the home for the work
   enabling
   us to use a consistent design. Your are welcome to join the
 continuation
   of
   this effort in this environment.
  
   Greetings
   Stefan
  
  
  
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Re: [dev] A Brand Refresh for OpenOffice.org (was Re: Changes to Site/Product Elements due to Oracle Acquisition)

2010-03-08 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Hello Andrea;

Thank you for your contribution. Please contribute on the branding
mailing list indicated on this page:   
  http://marketing.openoffice.org/brand

Nothing will come out of whatever you will submit on the
dev@openoffice.org as it is not made for that.

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Re: [dev] A Brand Refresh for OpenOffice.org (was Re: Changes to Site/Product Elements due to Oracle Acquisition)

2010-03-08 Thread Konstantin Tokarev
N 08.03.10, 18:00, Andrea Chiumenti kium...@gmail.com: 
 what about this one ?

Nice work! much better than it was before

 
 2010/3/8 Andrea Chiumenti kium...@gmail.com
  For the font I used the one provided with original svg, (personally I'd 
  prefer it a bit more round). I'll try to make gulls more glossy
  
  2010/3/8 Konstantin Tokarev annu...@yandex.ru
  
   
 personally I think that the two gulls (my version) should be reworked, 
   what
 do you think about ?

I also think they should be reworked (IMHO). Maybe it's worth to change 
   font? or make birds' color slightly different from text
   
 2010/3/8 Andrea Chiumenti
 what do you think/suggest about this ?
 
  2010/3/8 Stefan Taxhet (sonews)
 
 Hi Andrea,
 
  You may want to join the Branding Initiative
   http://marketing.openoffice.org/brand
 
  Greetings
  Stefan
 
 
  Andrea Chiumenti wrote:
 
  Hi Stefan,
  do we have an svg for the text logo.
 
  If not which fonts are used ?
 
  I'd like to make the text logo a bit more sexy
 
  Ciao,
  kiuma
 
  2010/3/4 Stefan Taxhet
 
  All,
 
  During the last 10 years OpenOffice.org has evolved to a quite 
   large
  project in the FLOSS world and a successful product in the office
  productivity suite market. Together with our product the 
   OpenOffice.org
  brand spread over the world. This brand has a tradition of 
   quality and
  it remains faithful to its origins.
 
  For an impression of the first two rebrushed elements - the logo 
   and a
  symbol - have a look at
   http://www.openoffice.org/trademark/brandrefresh.html
 
  Instead of a complete new design we started a refresh. While it 
   seems
  always hard to adapt all input the changes point out the key 
   components
  and improves the overall impression to gain even more strength and
  confidence.
 
  These elements will find their way into the next version of our 
   product
  together with the changes that are necessary due to the Oracle
  acquisition as announced earlier.
 
  The just founded Branding Initiative will be the home for the work
  enabling
  us to use a consistent design. Your are welcome to join the 
   continuation
  of
  this effort in this environment.
 
  Greetings
  Stefan
 
 
  
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Re: [dev] A Brand Refresh for OpenOffice.org (was Re: Changes to Site/Product Elements due to Oracle Acquisition)

2010-03-08 Thread Andrea Chiumenti
thank you for comments and suggestion, I've moved the discussion to the
marketing ml.

2010/3/8 Konstantin Tokarev annu...@yandex.ru

 N 08.03.10, 18:00, Andrea Chiumenti kium...@gmail.com:
  what about this one ?

 Nice work! much better than it was before

 
  2010/3/8 Andrea Chiumenti kium...@gmail.com
   For the font I used the one provided with original svg, (personally I'd
 prefer it a bit more round). I'll try to make gulls more glossy
  
   2010/3/8 Konstantin Tokarev annu...@yandex.ru
  
   
  personally I think that the two gulls (my version) should be
 reworked, what
  do you think about ?
   
 I also think they should be reworked (IMHO). Maybe it's worth to
 change font? or make birds' color slightly different from text
   
  2010/3/8 Andrea Chiumenti
  what do you think/suggest about this ?
  
   2010/3/8 Stefan Taxhet (sonews)
  
  Hi Andrea,
  
   You may want to join the Branding Initiative
http://marketing.openoffice.org/brand
  
   Greetings
   Stefan
  
  
   Andrea Chiumenti wrote:
  
   Hi Stefan,
   do we have an svg for the text logo.
  
   If not which fonts are used ?
  
   I'd like to make the text logo a bit more sexy
  
   Ciao,
   kiuma
  
   2010/3/4 Stefan Taxhet
  
   All,
  
   During the last 10 years OpenOffice.org has evolved to a
 quite large
   project in the FLOSS world and a successful product in the
 office
   productivity suite market. Together with our product the
 OpenOffice.org
   brand spread over the world. This brand has a tradition of
 quality and
   it remains faithful to its origins.
  
   For an impression of the first two rebrushed elements - the
 logo and a
   symbol - have a look at
http://www.openoffice.org/trademark/brandrefresh.html
  
   Instead of a complete new design we started a refresh. While
 it seems
   always hard to adapt all input the changes point out the key
 components
   and improves the overall impression to gain even more
 strength and
   confidence.
  
   These elements will find their way into the next version of
 our product
   together with the changes that are necessary due to the
 Oracle
   acquisition as announced earlier.
  
   The just founded Branding Initiative will be the home for the
 work
   enabling
   us to use a consistent design. Your are welcome to join the
 continuation
   of
   this effort in this environment.
  
   Greetings
   Stefan
  
  
  
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Re: [dev] Call for Nominations for Community Council Seats

2010-03-08 Thread Christoph Noack
Am Montag, den 08.03.2010, 12:31 +0100 schrieb Pavel Janík:
 Martin, you are not regular. You are extraordinary in thinking both
 as a manager and as a developer... 

... not to forget that Martin is really aware of the needs of the whole
volunteer community.

Bye,
Christoph


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