[dev] Re: About OpenOffice.org

2011-03-18 Thread Konstantin Tokarev


18.03.2011, 08:24, "Mapper720.Ru Admin" :
> Hello!
>
> I like OpenOffice, but it has one rather serious weak point - it works
> (especially OO.o Calc) more slowly, then ms excel. It would be very good
> to make it more fast, if you can.

Out of curiosity, have you tried Gnumeric?

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Re: [dev] Bug found

2011-02-09 Thread Konstantin Tokarev


08.02.2011, 23:31, "Siath" :
> If you turn tracking on for a odt file and then password it to lock the
> file.
>
> While you can't accept or reject changes from the main menu. You can still
> right click and accept or reject changes in the file itself.
>
> I think this was an oversight in the coding as the right click functions
> should be gone when a file is locked or at least grayed out.
>
> Thanks

Please submit a bug report on it

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Re: [dev] Need help with Open Office

2011-01-30 Thread Konstantin Tokarev


28.01.2011, 23:30, "Yashavant Kulkarni" :
> Hello,
>
> I am importing several documents that were prepared in Micorsoft Office
> 2000. They have password protection both for opening and changing.
>
> I am trying to use those documents in Open Office.  I can open them by
> entering "open password". However Open Office does not ask for "write
> password." When I try to make changes to the documents, it does not allow
> changes.
>
> What can I do ?

Post a bug report

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Re: [dev] contribute

2010-12-17 Thread Konstantin Tokarev

> Really, though I admire Tono for his heroic effort to build OOo with gcc
> on Windows, it's not what I would recommend for beginners. It requires a
> patched version of mingw that usually only works for a limited number of
> OOo versions and it is even slower than the VC++ based build (that
> already is much slower than gcc on Linux on the same hardware).
>
> So my recommendation is: if the VC++ compiler should be avoided, avoid
> Windows too.

And non-optimized build with GCC 3.4.6 on Linux should be faster than
with GCC 4.x


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Re: [dev] Re: Installing OpenOffice SDK and configuring NetBeans IDE

2010-12-06 Thread Konstantin Tokarev


06.12.2010, 13:14, "Michael Stahl" :
> On 06/12/2010 02:25, Harsha Ravnikar wrote:
>
>>  I downloaded SDK version 3.2.1 for the first time from
>>  http://download.openoffice.org/sdk/index.html and extracted it.
>>
>>  When I run the update script that comes with the SDK, I get a message
>>  "Skipping deselected package" for (I think) all the packages within the DEBS
>>  directory.
>>
>>  Seems like SDK installation is not working.
>>
>>  Do I have to manually install all the .deb files? What will it do to my
>>  existing OpenOffice installation that Ubuntu has installed?
>
> i guess the OpenOffice.org SDK as distributed by the OpenOffice.org
> project does not work together with distro OpenOffice.org builds, which
> use a different directory layout.
>
> you can use the upstream OpenOffice.org SDK with the upstream
> OpenOffice.org binary packages, or you can use the distro-provided
> OpenOffice.org SDK packages together with the distro-provided
> OpenOffice.org binary packages.
>
> it seems the SDK package on Ubuntu is this one:
> openoffice.org-dev

I had an experience of successful usage of "vanilla" SDK with Ubuntu's OOo, but
I've had to install SDK files manually to get it working (i.e., copy them into 
correct
subdirectories inside Ubuntu's OOo installation). But I wouldn't recommended to
use this way :)


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Re: [dev] Importing Filter fixes from Symphony

2010-12-02 Thread Konstantin Tokarev
> Hi all
>
> any response to camille's response regarding calc filters bugs ?
>
> These bugs are stoppers regarding Calc use in many migration
> as an example, we just migrated my city, Voreppe (France) 200 users, to
> OOo but theses specific bugs lead to a growing unsatisfaction regarding
> the migration among all the calc users. The process is much harder now
> to make OOo accepted

Hi Laurent,

You could try to use Gnumeric - it's free from many of Calc's bugs and runs
much faster

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Re: [dev] OOo starts working after installing VS 2008 C++ Express

2010-11-26 Thread Konstantin Tokarev


26.11.2010, 14:29, "Knut Olav Bøhmer" :
> Hi,
>
> I had a problem with OOo, that when you start OOo it opens a
> restore-document-window, and crashes. When I use the -norestore option
> it just crashed. I tried several users on the same computer, and they
> (includeing Administrator) all failed. I tried removing the user
> profile, but still the same. Reinstalling OOo has also been tried,
> with no luck.
>
> Then I installed Visual Studio C++ 2008 Express to debug this. When
> VSC2008 was installed, OOo started working as it should.  (for all
> users on the computer)
> So, the problem is probably some DLL files that's not good on this
> system. There are more computers and users that have this problem. How
> can I find out what the problem is and which DLL files should be
> installed?

I think this can help you:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?FamilyID=9b2da534-3e03-4391-8a4d-074b9f2bc1bf&displaylang=en

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Re: [dev] Re: Information about OpenOffice Vs LibreOffice

2010-10-14 Thread Konstantin Tokarev


14.10.2010, 00:51, "Björn Michaelsen" :
> Hi Mario,
>
> Am Wed, 13 Oct 2010 13:57:54 -0600
> schrieb "Marlo Schuldt" :
>
>>  Recently a friend sent me a comment about LibreOffice taking over
>>  OpenOffice.org which was a bit confusing.
>
> LibreOffice is not "taking over" OpenOffice.org. It is a separate
> project that has been newly started (based on OpenOffice.org).
>
>>  Could some you please point me in a direction where I can read get
>>  some dependable and creditable information about the future of
>>  OpenOffice.org.
>
> "Oracle’s growing team of developers, QA engineers, and user experience
> personnel will continue developing, improving, and supporting
> OpenOffice.org as open source, building on the 7.5 million lines of
> code already contributed to the community."
> http://www.oracle.com/us/corporate/press/177158
>
>>  I would like to be sure I'm not recommending a change to OpenOffice
>>  if they will have to use something else in the near future.
>
> OpenOffice.org will continue to exist. Nothing has changed about that.

Does it all mean that LibreOffice is just a group of Hg branches with different
commit policy?

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Re: [dev] Newbe

2010-09-05 Thread Konstantin Tokarev
>Have just built OpenOffice under Ubuntu, but have run out of knowledgein how 
>to install it (not a Linux guru).

make install doesn't work for you?
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Re: Re: [dev] OOo installation packages for Linux, a few (easy) questions

2010-08-16 Thread Konstantin Tokarev


16.08.10, 18:55, "Sigrid Carrera" :

>  Isn't it just enough to go into the directory and use the command
>  
>  dpkg -i *.deb (or something similar, I've never had a Debian-based system).

This command works fine, I can prove it.


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Re: [dev] OpenOffice.org Performance Analysis - to improve responsiveness for older PC

2010-07-05 Thread Konstantin Tokarev


02.07.10, 08:58, "Samphan Raruenrom" :

> http://www.slideshare.net/untsamphan/o-oo-perfanalysis41
>  
>  OOo users usually complain about 2 types of OOo performance problems - 
>  program-start time and open-file time. OOo developers focus on improving 
>  program-start time so it is getting better. However, open-file time is 
>  more serious for PC with low RAM, e.g. several minutes to open a few 
>  megabytes spreadsheets.
>  
>  For PC with low RAM (256M), Calc will have difficulties open typical 
>  spreadsheets larger than a few megabytes because Calc use memory to hold 
>  the document much less efficient than MS Office. See slide 21 for the 
>  comparison.  This seems hard/impossible to improve so my typical advice 
>  to users is to add more RAM if they want to open larger files.
>  
>  

[off-topic]
Just an advice: if you're really interested in working with spreadsheets on old 
PCs, forget about Calc. Gnumeric is much faster, especially with low RAM and 
large documents. Sometimes it opens Excel files better, and it has a lot of 
features that Calc lacks
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Re: Re: Re: [dev] CMake module for finding OpenOffice.org SDK installation

2010-05-25 Thread Konstantin Tokarev
>  > Actually, this script is not "OOo side" integration.
>  
>  Wrong. It is. It is a file for loooking where OOos SDK is.

Yes, but it couldn't be called "OOo side" integration now because it needs to 
be included into client's project, and it searches for OOo installations in the 
system, not belonging to any of it. Proper "OOo side" integration should 
include some information for CMake what files to include

>  Err., last I looked cmake had a dir where it looked for .cmake files:

Yes, but it's not fair to install files into other project's prefix :)

>  >  Alternatively, it could be submitted to CMake, placed in its directory it
>  > will be available without copying to project.
>  
>  I don't think that's a good idea. Such stuff belongs to the project
>  wheere it#s supposed to check for (so it can be adapted there for changes)
>  Like stuff for the < 3 SDKs won't work with >= 3 SDKs.

It was just an idea. Actually, CMake already contains "Find" modules for lots 
of libraries and other software. My script is already able to extract OOo 
version (build number and other info could be extracted similarly)
  

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Re: Re: [dev] CMake module for finding OpenOffice.org SDK installation

2010-05-25 Thread Konstantin Tokarev
>  Actually, no, I disagree. As it's just a data file, we can just include
>  it in the SDK.

Actually, this script is not "OOo side" integration. It's intended to be 
included into projects using CMake, it will not work from from SDK location 
(as, for example, pkg-config files work). Alternatively, it could be submitted 
to CMake, placed in its directory it will be available without copying to 
project.

Of course, I can provide an example of usage, but if you want to include CMake 
integration into SDK, it will require a bit more effort. Maybe I'll take it 
later.

Also, I'd like to add that this file could be potentially used not only for 
extensions, but for any project which needs OpenOffice.org files for any 
purpose (but it may require some improvements in it).

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[dev] CMake module for finding OpenOffice.org SDK installation

2010-05-25 Thread Konstantin Tokarev
Hi all!
I've written cmake module which finds installation of OpenOffice.org
SDK. Both distribution-supplied and "official" OOo installation are
supported. Script will choose first OOo installation where SDK is
present. It sets paths to different directories of OOo, which could be
easily used in CMake project

Personally I use CMake as configurator for my extension in Java (built
with ant) to simplify building on different machines/Linux distros

File is attached. License is BSD. Any fixes/addition are welcomed.

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Re: [dev] cannot install java extension on ubuntu 10.04 (oo 3.2)

2010-05-23 Thread Konstantin Tokarev
On Sun, 23 May 2010 17:37:00 +0200
Oliver Brinzing  wrote: 

> Hi Ariel, Hi Konstantin,
> 
> > $ sudo aptitude install openoffice.org-java-common
> 
> ok, it seems to work now, but there is another problem with my
> extensions:
> 
> on windows i placed some *.jar files in C:\Program
> Files\OpenOffice.org\share\uno_packages. my java extensions have a
> "manifest.mf" like:
> 
> Manifest-Version: 1.0
> RegistrationClassName: my.extension.comp.ServiceProvider
> UNO-Type-Path: <> ./../../../../my-idl-types.jar
> Class-Path: ./ ./../../../../my-helper.jar
> 
> with ubuntu "unopkg add ..." fails again - so i replaced the relative
> paths "./../../../../" with "/home/user/jars/" (for example) - now
> "unopkg add ..." installs ...

Extension shouldn't use hardcoded paths to external classes. Better
keep your libraries inside oxt


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Re: [dev] cannot install java extension on ubuntu 10.04 (oo 3.2)

2010-05-23 Thread Konstantin Tokarev
On Sun, 23 May 2010 13:55:43 +0200
Oliver Brinzing  wrote: 

> Hi,
> 
> i tried to install some of my java extensions on ubuntu 10.04 (oo
> 3.2) but failed, it seems all extensions with *.jar files refuse to
> install ...
> 
> any hints ?

Have you installed openoffice.org-java-common package?

> 
> Oliver
> 
> u...@notebook:/usr/lib/openoffice/program$ sudo unopkg add
> ./../share/uno_packages/sun-report-builder.oxt --shared --verbose
> Copying: sun-report-builder.oxt
> Enabling: Sun Report Builder
>  Enabling: DbReportWindowState.xcs
>  Enabling: ReportCommands.xcs
>  Enabling: ReportDesign.xcs
>  Enabling: sun-report-builder.jar
> 
> ERROR: (com.sun.star.deployment.DeploymentException) { { Message =
> "An error occurred while enabling: sun-report-builder.jar", Context =
> (com.sun.star.uno.XInterface) @9f37998 }, Cause = (any)
> { (com.sun.star.registry.CannotRegisterImplementationException)
> { { Message = "", Context = (com.sun.star.uno.XInterface) @0 } } } }
> rollback... Disabling: ReportDesign.xcs
>   Disabling: ReportCommands.xcs
>   Disabling: DbReportWindowState.xcs
>   rollback finished.
> An error occurred while enabling: sun-report-builder.jar
> 


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Re: [dev] Regarding how to start with openoffice extension development in JAVA

2010-05-16 Thread Konstantin Tokarev
On Sun, 16 May 2010 10:14:41 +0530
peeush agarwal  wrote: 

> 
> SirI am a B.Tech (C.S.E.),3rd year student from National Institute of
> Technology,Durgapur,India.I do have a good programming skills in
> Java(J2SE,J2EE) and I would like to contribute in open source
> technology starting with OpenOffice. Actually I am looking for a
> project on development of extensions in OpenOffice as it is a good,
> emerging office , so I would be greatly admired if I can contribute
> in this office using Java programming language.Hope I'll get reply as
> soon as possible with some project on OpenOffice. Thanking you Yours
> sincerely

Are you interested in creation of your own extension, or would like to
help somebody else?
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Re: [dev] New build system

2010-05-11 Thread Konstantin Tokarev

> Please read the wiki article, it seems you don't know which "other 
> inherent faults" I'm talking about. Recursive systems have *inherent* 
> disadvantages and overcoming them needs to switch to a non-recursive 
> system. This is not related to dependencies. CMake has a
> non-recursive element (the export to the backends), so everything
> that can be evaluated here (dependencies) can be done without the
> disadvantages of a recursive build system. But the build itself is
> recursive, so everything that happens at build time shows the usual
> disadvantages as described in the wiki.
>...
> The goal is to have makefiles of sub units that can be combined with 
> each other so that they produce output in the same workdir. In our 
> GNUMake based approach all you have to do for that is include the 
> makefiles of the parts you want to combine, whereever they reside. In 
> CMake we couldn't find a way to achieve that without changing the
> CMake makefiles each time we wanted to combine them in a different
> way and this is unacceptable for us.

In CMake you can also include other cmake sources into CMakeLists.txt,
just as in GNU make

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Re: [dev] New build system

2010-05-11 Thread Konstantin Tokarev
Sorry, I didn't investigate all materials carefully. But, since CMake
also uses GNU make as backend, I decided you're planning to use whole
GNU build system.

Yes, I know there're some large projects that use GNU make as build
system, e.g. commercial quantum package Molpro. But it's the way of
developing your own build system instead of using/improving existing
one (I don't call GNU make itself a "build system" because it has too
few built-in facilities comparing to CMake or autotools)

> That is not a migration in steps because it would require to make
> CMake the "master build system" and integrate our currently build
> system in it. 

No, it wouldn't. You can use CMake for subprojects and call it from
build system with appropriate parameters. CMake can do in-tree build

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Re: [dev] New build system

2010-05-11 Thread Konstantin Tokarev
Also, with Autotools developer needs to run autogen if something in the
project/gtk headers/something else changed to re-generate configure
script, or build will fail in the middle. With CMake you don't need it -
build system automatically detects if something's changed when you run
make, and reconfigure before building.

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Re: [dev] New build system

2010-05-11 Thread Konstantin Tokarev

> 
> As for me, major advantages of CMake are:
> * speed of initial configuration step, fast re-configuration because
> of caching;
> * easy setting up of build parameters through ccmake - much more
>   convenient than those --long-keys;
> * more intelligent tracking of source dependencies - less files
> require rebuild if something changes than autotools think;
> * possibility of parallel build of several directories;
> * much faster installation - up-to-date binaries are not updated
> Also:
> * it's easy to determine operating system of build host and do custom
>   actions for each platform (e.g., build bundle for Mac)
> 

Also, with autotools you'll depend on their version. With CMake, you'll
set version number, and newer CMake versions will run in compatibility
mode with that version. 
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Re: [dev] New build system

2010-05-11 Thread Konstantin Tokarev

> CMake - Minus
> 
> The major drawback of CMake is that we couldn't find a way to do the 
> conversion in separate steps. We had to write the CMake makefiles in 
> parallel to the existing ones and so had to maintain two build
> systems for several months.

Your conclusion is wrong. See add_custom_target function in manual -
you can run any external build system from cmake. I even use it as
configurer which founds OOo binaries and jars for ant :)

As for me, major advantages of CMake are:
* speed of initial configuration step, fast re-configuration because of
  caching;
* easy setting up of build parameters through ccmake - much more
  convenient than those --long-keys;
* more intelligent tracking of source dependencies - less files require
  rebuild if something changes than autotools think;
* possibility of parallel build of several directories;
* much faster installation - up-to-date binaries are not updated
Also:
* it's easy to determine operating system of build host and do custom
  actions for each platform (e.g., build bundle for Mac)

> CMake does not overcome the other inherent faults of a recursive, 
> segmented build system that are explained in the wiki.

Again wrong. You can use add_custom_dependencies for each module and
configure build oreder as fine as you need

> We also need a solution for builds from more than one code
> repository. I explained that in the wiki. The "one project, one
> workdir" approach of CMake does not offer enough flexibility to make
> that possible without headaches.

Wrong. You can add paths from underlaying dirs into CMakeLists.txt, or
even use ../ to get higher... Nobody forces you to have CMakeLists.txt
in every directory, and you can run external build systems for
sub-directories with passing them correct parameters

> CMake requires tedious procedures or extra scripting to easily build 
> single modules of OOo, something that is still important for many OOo 
> developers.

Sometimes it's true - non-trivial actions which aren't related to
compilation/linking are often simplier to do from shell script. But if
you choose autotools, you also have to require shell! You can run shell
scripts as external program from build system though. You can run shell
script for unix, or bat for Windows.


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Re: [dev] Help Download Source

2010-05-06 Thread Konstantin Tokarev
On Thu, 6 May 2010 13:25:15 -0300
Romildo Ferreira  wrote: 

> Hi, my friends!
> I kown that this list is only to OpenOffice developer, but I would
> like to download the source code to undestand the implementation of
> goalSeek function.
> Unfortantly when I try this path in my TortoiseCVS:
> ":pserver:anon...@anoncvs.services.openoffice.org:/cvs" i get a fail
> message.
> Could some one help me?
> Thanks a lot,

You can find latest "master" sources here:
http://download.openoffice.org/next/other.html

3.2.0 here: http://download.openoffice.org/source/index.html

trunk here: http://hg.services.openoffice.org/

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[dev] How to add icon theme?

2010-05-03 Thread Konstantin Tokarev
How to install new modified icon theme into OpenOffice.org?

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Re: [dev] OOo's Toolbar Icons - Saving Space

2010-04-24 Thread Konstantin Tokarev
I also propose to remove star wars game from Calc to save space (or at least 
move it to separate package if there are lots of fans)

24.04.10, 21:31, "Ivan M" :

> Hello all,
>  
>  Recently I have explored one specific area where we could easily
>  reduce the hard disk footprint of OpenOffice.org. The vast
>  majority of reductions would be passed on to the size of the OOo
>  installer, which makes this all the more attractive (less bandwidth
>  costs, people download OOo quicker and they have a little more hard
>  drive space for all their documents :P).
>  
>  The area in question is found in a bunch of zip files in OOo's
>  /Basis/share/config folder. These are the toolbar icon sets that are
>  bundled with OOo, and there are 6 of them (galaxy, high contrast,
>  industrial, tango, crystal and classic). I have written a discussion
>  about how OOo could be smarter with these icon sets and save space [1].
>  
>  In summary, what it comes down to is:
>  
>  1) Get rid of old icon sets. Industrial and Classic are two good candidates 
> IMO.
>  
>  2) Run PNGOUT [2] on all icon sets to reduce the size of each PNG file.
>  Small reductions across many files add up substantially.
>  
>  3) Reduce the duplication of images in each icon set. The high contrast icons
>  also appear to be duplicated in the Galaxy icon set - does anyone know why?
>  
>  4) Increase/decrease the compression of each icon set depending on the
>  performance impact (i.e., we can reduce compression if it will make
>  OOo load faster, or we can increase it if the extra memory use is
>  inconsequential).
>  
>  #2 alone could save a few megabytes and would require no code
>  modifications whatsoever. At the very, very least we should do this,
>  and it could be done in time for OOo 3.3 (maybe even 3.2.1?)
>  
>  My discussion/proposal is based on what I have been able to gather by
>  myself, so this may not actually be as simple as I believe. That's why
>  a discussion can't just be between one person. I have had some positive
>  responses to this on the UX and Branding list [3] and I'm hoping this email
>  to the dev list will help make this proposal more concrete.
>  
>  I do have a couple of questions as well (I'm not sure who I should ask?):
>  1) Why do the high contrast icons appear to be duplicated in the
>  Galaxy set AND in the high contrast icon set?
>  2) What happened to the icon sets between OOo 3.2 and 3.2.1? Their
>  size decreased considerably - was this just the new ODF icons or is
>  some kind of space saving effort underway?
>  
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>  
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>  [1] 
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>  [2] http://advsys.net/ken/utils.htm
>  [3] 
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Re: Re: [dev] Transforming the Hyperlink bar in a websearch toolbar

2010-04-06 Thread Konstantin Tokarev

>  What do we expect a user to enter into an OOo search bar? Help content?
>  File names? In what folders? Document content? Web searches? UI commands
>  in the menu? etc. etc.

AI to determine what user means :)

>  
>  So while a multi search tool would be a nice idea, we have to solve the
>  possible ambiguities.
>  
>  Regards,
>  Mathias
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Re: [dev] A Brand Refresh for OpenOffice.org (was Re: Changes to Site/Product Elements due to Oracle Acquisition)

2010-03-08 Thread Konstantin Tokarev
N 08.03.10, 18:00, "Andrea Chiumenti" : 
> what about this one ?

Nice work! much better than it was before

> 
> 2010/3/8 Andrea Chiumenti 
> > For the font I used the one provided with original svg, (personally I'd 
> > prefer it a bit more round). I'll try to make gulls more glossy
> > 
> > 2010/3/8 Konstantin Tokarev 
> > 
> > > 
> > >  > personally I think that the two gulls (my version) should be reworked, 
> > > what
> > >  > do you think about ?
> > >  
> > >  I also think they should be reworked (IMHO). Maybe it's worth to change 
> > > font? or make birds' color slightly different from text
> > > 
> > >  > 2010/3/8 Andrea Chiumenti
> > > > > what do you think/suggest about this ?
> > >  > >
> > >  > > 2010/3/8 Stefan Taxhet (sonews)
> > >  > >
> > > > > Hi Andrea,
> > >  > >>
> > >  > >> You may want to join the "Branding Initiative"
> > >  > >>  http://marketing.openoffice.org/brand
> > >  > >>
> > >  > >> Greetings
> > >  > >> Stefan
> > >  > >>
> > >  > >>
> > >  > >> Andrea Chiumenti wrote:
> > >  > >>
> > >  > >>> Hi Stefan,
> > >  > >>> do we have an svg for the text logo.
> > >  > >>>
> > >  > >>> If not which fonts are used ?
> > >  > >>>
> > >  > >>> I'd like to make the text logo a bit more "sexy"
> > >  > >>>
> > >  > >>> Ciao,
> > >  > >>> kiuma
> > >  > >>>
> > >  > >>> 2010/3/4 Stefan Taxhet
> > >  > >>>
> > > > >>>  All,
> > >  > >>>>
> > >  > >>>> During the last 10 years OpenOffice.org has evolved to a quite 
> > > large
> > >  > >>>> project in the FLOSS world and a successful product in the office
> > >  > >>>> productivity suite market. Together with our product the 
> > > OpenOffice.org
> > >  > >>>> brand spread over the world. This brand has a tradition of 
> > > quality and
> > >  > >>>> it remains faithful to its origins.
> > >  > >>>>
> > >  > >>>> For an impression of the first two rebrushed elements - the logo 
> > > and a
> > >  > >>>> symbol - have a look at
> > >  > >>>>  http://www.openoffice.org/trademark/brandrefresh.html
> > >  > >>>>
> > >  > >>>> Instead of a complete new design we started a refresh. While it 
> > > seems
> > >  > >>>> always hard to adapt all input the changes point out the key 
> > > components
> > >  > >>>> and improves the overall impression to gain even more strength and
> > >  > >>>> confidence.
> > >  > >>>>
> > >  > >>>> These elements will find their way into the next version of our 
> > > product
> > >  > >>>> together with the changes that are necessary due to the Oracle
> > >  > >>>> acquisition as announced earlier.
> > >  > >>>>
> > >  > >>>> The just founded Branding Initiative will be the home for the work
> > >  > >>>> enabling
> > >  > >>>> us to use a consistent design. Your are welcome to join the 
> > > continuation
> > >  > >>>> of
> > >  > >>>> this effort in this environment.
> > >  > >>>>
> > >  > >>>> Greetings
> > >  > >>>> Stefan
> > >  > >>>>
> > >  > >>>>
> > >  > >>>> 
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Re: [dev] A Brand Refresh for OpenOffice.org (was Re: Changes to Site/Product Elements due to Oracle Acquisition)

2010-03-08 Thread Konstantin Tokarev

> personally I think that the two gulls (my version) should be reworked, what
> do you think about ?

I also think they should be reworked (IMHO). Maybe it's worth to change font? 
or make birds' color slightly different from text

> 2010/3/8 Andrea Chiumenti 
> > what do you think/suggest about this ?
> >
> > 2010/3/8 Stefan Taxhet (sonews) 
> >
> > Hi Andrea,
> >>
> >> You may want to join the "Branding Initiative"
> >>  http://marketing.openoffice.org/brand
> >>
> >> Greetings
> >> Stefan
> >>
> >>
> >> Andrea Chiumenti wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi Stefan,
> >>> do we have an svg for the text logo.
> >>>
> >>> If not which fonts are used ?
> >>>
> >>> I'd like to make the text logo a bit more "sexy"
> >>>
> >>> Ciao,
> >>> kiuma
> >>>
> >>> 2010/3/4 Stefan Taxhet 
> >>>
> >>>  All,
> 
>  During the last 10 years OpenOffice.org has evolved to a quite large
>  project in the FLOSS world and a successful product in the office
>  productivity suite market. Together with our product the OpenOffice.org
>  brand spread over the world. This brand has a tradition of quality and
>  it remains faithful to its origins.
> 
>  For an impression of the first two rebrushed elements - the logo and a
>  symbol - have a look at
>   http://www.openoffice.org/trademark/brandrefresh.html
> 
>  Instead of a complete new design we started a refresh. While it seems
>  always hard to adapt all input the changes point out the key components
>  and improves the overall impression to gain even more strength and
>  confidence.
> 
>  These elements will find their way into the next version of our product
>  together with the changes that are necessary due to the Oracle
>  acquisition as announced earlier.
> 
>  The just founded Branding Initiative will be the home for the work
>  enabling
>  us to use a consistent design. Your are welcome to join the continuation
>  of
>  this effort in this environment.
> 
>  Greetings
>  Stefan
> 
> 
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Re: [dev] OpenOffice && Google soc

2010-02-26 Thread Konstantin Tokarev


26.02.10, 13:38, "Ян Программист" :

> Hi people. I have some ideas about OpenOffice improvements and I wanted to
> know: how do those fit for Google summer of code this year? Do those appear
> in development priorities?
>1. Smart zoom (additional controls would be shown rather font resize)
>2. Gnash movie support for OpenOffice
>3. Multimedia add-ons support for Adobe Reader targeted export
>4. MathML formula editor with Ribbon interface + exporting a MS Word doc
>with Word compatible formula editor format [MathML to OLE binary converter]

There is a new born project of math editor for OOo (GUI is in development). 
 http://fi-library.h16.ru

>5. Document review services threw OpenOffice tools & email/NFS/Samba
>share(s)
>6. OpenOffice collaboration support with replication against project
>management tool (Redmine with openoffice web preview plug-in?)
>7. Provide a translation command in Writer menu:
>   1. Using Lingvo web site
>   2. Using offline dictionary (not multilingual!)

Why not to use external GoldenDict program instead of bloating OOo?

>8. Note: translation results should appear in (a set of) dialog based
>window(s) - to ensure that nested occurrences are separated
>9. In-place translation of word in Impress without exiting presentation
>mode:
>   1. Word itself is targeted threw mouse cursor (or any external
>   pointing device - perhaps slides are showed in wide screen) ( + hotkey?)
>   2. Hands-free facility: voice recognition initiation
>10. Organize Writer preferences for mode center customization, e.g.
>educational/reading mode, document forming/preparation mode, etc.
>11. IEEE standard driven document populating facility - smart editing
>tools for forming technical documents "under rules' pressure"
>12. "Getting stated" point is the same panel as File->Templates and
>documents
>   1. Document formation rules could be activated threw IEEE on-line
>   services at back-end
>   2. When document generated from template - activate facilities for
>   interactive add-ins in case of PDF exporting:
>   3. Unnecessary performance could be lost in case if user will not
>   decide to export to PDF
>13. Provide collaboration facilities with use of contacts of co-workers
>and reading/conversation rights threw LDAP (OpenDS?)
>14. Provide technical task forming tools to Writer
> Thanks. John

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Re: [dev] Text area in OOo Math

2010-02-12 Thread Konstantin Tokarev

> I'm still not sure, what you exactly mean. If you talk about the code
> that displays say:
> 1
> -  
> 4
> this would be {1} over {4}. 
> You'll find more and more detailed descriptions here: 
> http://documentation.openoffice.org/manuals/userguide3/0200WG3-WriterGuide.pdf
> or
> http://www.oooauthors.org/english/userguide3/writer3/WG3_published

Yes, I'm talking about text area which displays "{1} over {4}". I'm wondering 
where is source code that updates it's content (to be more concrete, what 
function does it). I'm sure this question is not for user's list :)
Maybe you can point me to some manual which describes that part of code?

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Re: [dev] Text area in OOo Math

2010-02-12 Thread Konstantin Tokarev
> Hi Konstantin,
> > Where to find code that displays text description of formula in OOo Math?
> What do you mean by 'text description'? Do you mean the text in the
> editing window?

Yes, certainly

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[dev] Text area in OOo Math

2010-02-11 Thread Konstantin Tokarev
Where to find code that displays text description of formula in OOo Math?
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[dev] Syntax highlighting in OO Math

2010-02-10 Thread Konstantin Tokarev
Doesn't anybody work on syntax highlighting in OO Math currently?
I'd like to try to use Colorer library (used, for example, in Midnight 
Commander) for this purpose. It's LGPL, so can be included in OOo without 
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Re: [dev] drop tcsh support?

2010-01-11 Thread Konstantin Tokarev
> Two questions remain:
> For one, the to-be-sourced scripts currently ensure that USE_SHELL's 
> path is in PATH, but I see no reason for that?
> For another, are there any relevant configurations where bash is not at 
> /bin/bash?  

Yes, in FreeBSD it's /usr/local/bin/bash (but there's /bin/sh if POSIX shell is 
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Re: [dev] OpenOffice Integration

2009-12-28 Thread Konstantin Tokarev
Hi, Kirill

> OpenOffile under Linux can be started only if it was installed as a package.
> How it is possible to run OpenOffice using UNO without installing (merely
> copied OO to specified folder, for example)?  What about having several
> instances of Open Office at one time in the system? Thank you very much!

In case of deployment on Linux you can build a package with dependency on 
appropriate OOo package from distribution repositories. In this case user will 
not have two instances of OOo installed simultaneously
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Re: [dev] Using OpenOffice.org for Chemistry on Linux

2009-08-19 Thread Konstantin Tokarev


13.08.09, 04:20, "Ariel Constenla-Haile" :

> Hello Konstantin,
> On Tuesday 11 August 2009, 08:06, Konstantin Tokarev wrote:
> > Hello!
> >
> > I think every chemist which wants to use Linux faces with one serious
> > problem: structural formulae cannot be inserted into the text in editable
> > way. Also I think that only OpenOffice.org can provide this functionality
> > today.
> >
> > In MS Windows there are many GUI based editors, which can be used to create
> > and edit formulae incorporated into documents. In *nix-like systems there
> > are no OLE-like interfaces. Only possibilities for user are to insert
> > formula as image, SVG, or use OLE objects, incorporated in files which were
> > created in Windows, Objects, created by external software and inserted into
> > document cannot be edited after incorporation.
> >
> > On the other hand, there is an extension for OpenOffice.org called 'quick
> > formule', which provides a language for textual description of chemical
> > structural formulae. It constructs formula as OOo Draw object from text
> > string. But created object cannot be edited as chemical structure. If a
> > possibility to store this text string alongside with drawing, it could be
> > used for further edit, and required functionality would be achieved.
> >
> > I see solution of this problem in creating new OOo application working the
> > same way as OOo Math and based on its code. Using simple GUI (probably
> > jchempaint), user will actually change text string with formula
> > description, and when string changes, drawing object will be
> > re-constructed. This complex document may be incorporated using OOo OLE
> > implementation like OO Math objects are incorporated.
> >
> > My question for OOo developers: is it the simplest way to achieve such
> > functionality? Or it is simpler to realize through OOo extension?
> I think that Jürgen gave you the best advice: develop your own embedded 
> object.
> I once developed a propotype following the SDK example, "embedding" JMol: 
> inside the document I stored the pdb file, and as replacement graphic one 
> generated by JMol from this pdb together with some JMol specific data in 
> order 
> to store Jmol's state. When the user activated the embedded object I opened 
> Jmol's frame, etc.
> The prototype worked fine (until  - I guess - the changes in OOo classpath 
> policy) but didn't have time to play with this again.
> But this shows the big potential of the embedded object API.
> You could do something similar with JChemPaint (and of course you're free to 
> take the Jmol idea and create two embedded object types, this may make OOo 
> very popular among scholars)
> > I'm C++ developer, 
> well, both JMol and JChemPaint are Java applications, you could benefit of 
> the 
> Netbeans OOo API plug-in 
> > but I've never worked with OpenOffice.org API. 
> the embedded API is rather undocumented (by documented I mean there is 
> nothing 
> AFAIK in the Developer's Guide), though you have the abstract API 
> specification, and the SDK example (it's helpful but hard to follow, I 
> remember 
> it took me a 2 weeks winter holiday to understand this stuff)
> Regards

Could you provide me with this code? I think this example can help me to learn 
OOo API

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Re: [dev] Using OpenOffice.org for Chemistry on Linux

2009-08-13 Thread Konstantin Tokarev
12.08.09, 23:30, "Eike Rathke" :

> Not sure if it would suit your needs, e.g. once exported to a graphics
> document a formula lost its structural information, but you might want
> to take a look at BKChem, http://bkchem.zirael.org/
> I could imagine an extension that used BKChem to feed it one of the
> formats it imports and let it render the graphics file. Just a quick
> idea..  There's also the OASA library on the same site that could
> provide the necessary functionality.
>   Eike

I've tried to use BKchem, but it has some disadvantages.
BKchem can export to ODG, but this ODG can't be reimorted as formula. BKchem is 
written in Python (I don't know this language properly), also its sources are 
poorly commented. OASA library lacks support of ODG

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Re: [dev] Using OpenOffice.org for Chemistry on Linux

2009-08-13 Thread Konstantin Tokarev
Juergen Schmidt wrote:
> Ariel is right the documentation is currently very pure but
> d...@api.openoffice.org will be the best place to ask further questions
> and get support.
> 
> We should maybe create a more complex example and should document it in
> the wiki in a tutorial style. Some volunteers?

If somebody helped me to realize embedded object I would help to describe it in 
tutorial. I think embedded chemical formula is a good example for API tutorial

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Re: [dev] Using OpenOffice.org for Chemistry on Linux

2009-08-13 Thread Konstantin Tokarev

I'd like to thank everyone who pays attention to this problem. 
I've created project "oochemistry" on Sourceforge 
(http://sourceforge.net/projects/oochemistry). I there is anyone who wants to 
help me with implementation, you are welcome to join!

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[dev] Using OpenOffice.org for Chemistry on Linux

2009-08-11 Thread Konstantin Tokarev
Hello!

I think every chemist which wants to use Linux faces with one serious problem: 
structural formulae cannot be inserted into the text in editable way. Also I 
think that only OpenOffice.org can provide this functionality today.

In MS Windows there are many GUI based editors, which can be used to create and 
edit formulae incorporated into documents. In *nix-like systems there are no 
OLE-like interfaces. Only possibilities for user are to insert formula as 
image, SVG, or use OLE objects, incorporated in files which were created in 
Windows, Objects, created by external software and inserted into document 
cannot be edited after incorporation.

On the other hand, there is an extension for OpenOffice.org called 'quick 
formule', which provides a language for textual description of chemical 
structural formulae. It constructs formula as OOo Draw object from text string. 
But created object cannot be edited as chemical structure. If a possibility to 
store this text string alongside with drawing, it could be used for further 
edit, and required functionality would be achieved.

I see solution of this problem in creating new OOo application working the same 
way as OOo Math and based on its code. Using simple GUI (probably jchempaint), 
user will actually change text string with formula description, and when string 
changes, drawing object will be re-constructed. This complex document may be 
incorporated using OOo OLE implementation like OO Math objects are incorporated.

My question for OOo developers: is it the simplest way to achieve such 
functionality? Or it is simpler to realize through OOo extension? I'm C++ 
developer, but I've never worked with OpenOffice.org API.
Is there anyone interested in chemistry or one who would like to help chemists 
running Linux? If yes, please reply. If not, just help me to choose direction

Thanks in advance,
Konstantin





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