[dev] OpenOffice bug site is down for many days now?
I tried to create a new bug in the OpenOffice website. However, I cannot get to it. I can log into the site. I can also see previous bug report. However, clicking on an item like My Issues: http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=runuserdefault it won't work. I think the qa.openoffice.org server is down. This happens many days, or more than a week before. I thought that it would come back, but to day I tried, and it did. Anyway, I want to file this issue: Every time I donwnload the OpenOffice zip file for Windows, I unzip the file, and I have to create a folder for it. If not, files would go all over places. I would be nice to to create a folder such as OpenOfficeSetup or something like that, then have all the setup files in the zip file inside this folder. Then zip the whole folder, so that when unzip, you have a folder name OpenOfficeSetup versus 10 or more files laying around to be cleaned up. I usually create a folder before doing the unzip, but it's rather inconvenience. I don't understand why this wasn't done before. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[dev] The OO Base
Try the Base today with the latest build. Many of the old bugs are
gone. This is really good.
I have couple comments though.
Some bugs are still there. I know this is dev build, but I think the
Base app seems to have unusual large number of obvious bugs (I mean with
less than 5 minutes testing, I could find tons of bugs for every release
I have tried so far, and some bug is like: cannot create a new
database/this is fixed in this release though).
1) If you create a new table a number type and auto-increment, but not
specify it as primary it, it will be primary key when save. Is this a
desired behavior? When you create a table with auto-increment and nto
specify any col as primary key, it will as for auto generate of primary
key. If answer yes, you'll see error:
Attempt to define a second primary key in statement [CREATE TABLE
"Table2" ("ID" INTEGER NOT NULL,"a" VARCHAR(50),"b" VARCHAR(50),"c"
INTEGER IDENTITY, PRIMARY KEY ("ID")]
So, shouldn't it detect that "c" already a primary key, and not asking
for the auto-creation of "ID"?
2) If connect to ODBC linking to .mdb file, queries and tables are both
listed under table category. Is this desired?
3) When edit table definitions, as you change col's field type,
different fields are show up. This is really funky to the eyes. I
think a better design is to have them all show up and keep them in a
same position. However, enable and disable them as you go. If there's
more fields than space allow, use scroll bar (like in a table view). I
don't think space is a constraint here.
4) Open a MS .mdb database linking through ODBC, I cannot edit a table
def. Is this desired behavior?
5) The new database wizard does not remember my selection on register
the database in open office.org. Actually, I am not sure what this is,
and it should not be in this screen. It could go somewhere, but not
here. I would rather keep it simple here.
6) New database wizard asks if open for editing. I think this should
always be the case, and need not to be asked. Users can always close
the window later. There's no need to give too many unneccessary
option. I think by default, just open the "Base". On the file menu,
user can choose to open the DB creation wizard. On the option menu,
users can specify if this is shown when the the Base is run. If so, the
base is started up and shown. Then the wizard is shown. For the file
menu, there should be 2 create new database menu items: a) Create new
database (this will be a hsqldb), no option other than file name is
needed here. b) Connect to existing database. The purpose of this is to
shorten the number of step to reach users' goal.
7) I Have the Base open in many windows. When click on it again to
create a new database, it will not remember my previous directory where
I open the file dialog (always go back to My Documents). By the way,
this documents has some non-english in the bottom. This should be fixed.
8) Create a new database, check Create tables using the table wizard,
but not check Open the database for editing. No table wizard was shown
up. I am not sure what's to expect here, but I think there's something
wrong with this wizard, and this is an example of it.
As you can see, I am not trying to nitpick here. I know it's dev
release (again). However, it's so easy to pick and choose where I can
point out a bug in this apps (with simple operations). This is
something I think the developers need to think about. My suggestion is
to look back at the way you develop your stuffs. Maybe more document,
more design, more paper. Do more little tests as you go. If this is
not fixed, I think majority of time will be fixing bugs which is very
unproductive.
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Re: [dev] The OO Base
Thank you for the reply. I am sorry it takes a bit long to get back. I was really busy. Here are the issues I filed. Some of them maybe already fix/change since this is in dev mode. http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=48442 http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=48444 http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=48446 http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=48447 http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=48449 http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=48450 http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=48452 http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=48453 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [dev] Which java ide?
I have worked with the Netbeans form designer for years and find it not too hard to digest. Is there questions or things that you have? You may want to check the Netbeans.org website for newbie article. It should definitely help. Also, the Netbeans mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] should also help to. Maybe start out with: http://www.netbeans.org/kb/articles/form_getstart40.html Good luck, vh - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [dev] Fwd: FSF to fork OOo over java
Rene Engelhard wrote: This is another case. JBoss is a Java app. It would be better to make it work with free JDKs (does it?, no idea) but it's still a Java servlet so it's obvious it needs Java. Whereas OpenOffice.org is a Office productivity suite which has some important functionality written in Java (XML filters, ...) and even some core stuff (Database, ...)? Why should using a non-free Java which is not available sometimes (see below) help here? It would be good for OOo to work with as many JVM, JRE as possible. No question about that. So maybe get GCJ and others to work with OOo. And we are not talking about Java itself. We want a free Java. We want a OOo which works with free Java. What RMS thinks may be different, though... I want a free Java too. But my "free" Java maybe different from your point of view. and I am pretty sure not the same as RMS. property. Create one, not asking Sun to give it out free. Ah. With your argument they should close-source OOo, too? Or have never open-sourced it? Because that was giving most of the StarOffice IP out? Wow. What a nice argument That is not how I see it. Please re-read my message. Freedom and liberty are important here. People want to have freedom to do things, and so Sun. They choose to open source OOo. Thanks to them. They choose to keep Java how it is right now, good for them (with respect to liberty). Good thing they're not under a communist or some regime that would take away their property without their consent, or force them under some kind of influence that they don't have control over. Anyway, there is free java. but Sun does regularily break OpenOffice.org to not build with free JDKs (by using sun.misc.* for example, which no free JDK implements - of course not, and is not even recommended for use by Sun itself). Good point. That's not "Java" then. It's rather some library written in Java. Because Java is not just code, but also standard. If it's outside of published standard, and not opened sourced, then its some closed stuff that attach to OOo. This is entirely different issue, which should be addressed. But I wrote RMS today that gcj/gij *basically* works for building (if you disable helpcontent and patch a sun.misc.* using place) - not for runtime, though. Both is necessary for free GNU/Linux distributions. Debian and Defore for example are *not* allowed to use non-free stuff for building packages for their main distribution... I wonder who decide *not* allow to use non-free stuff on Debian. If it's the Debian admin, then why they have the liberty to make that policy, and Sun cannot make something like *not* allow anything else other than Java to be used. Well, you say they can do so, but people will fork because they can too. Good point. But it also implies that another option is to fork Debian to *allow* this to happen. Obviously, "freedom" here has a high cost: cannot use non-free stuff. If medical and hospital has to follow this rule, I wouldn't have survive to this day. And well, Suns/Blackdowns Java is a portability nightmare. There are many platforms without a suitable Java. What to do with them? Let them in the cold? Without a Office suite / a integrated databse module / the XML filters? Good point. However, would you think that if I like Java so much, and I decide to write an open source office suit, or whatever software for that matter in Java.Would this be a real bad idea if taking open source software community as a whole into consideration? I wonder how many piece of softwares that were written just for Windows and open source. Thanks to them! This shows if open source community get more powerful, it would have its fangs exposed and forcing idealism on some commercial software. I believe both in open source and closed source. Want open source and freedom? Why not make it public domain? I call that freedom. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[dev] Packing the setup
I just found the following site: http://upx.sourceforge.net which boasts a very high compression ratio for .exe files. I wonder if OOo could investigate this to see if it can be used to reduce the size of the download. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [dev] Google Summer of Code
Take a second look :-) Thanks, but this link at http://code.google.com/summerofcode.html http://code.google.com/http;//openoffice.com Does not seem to be a valid link. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[dev] Base - connect to existing .mdb file
With a .mdb file that is password protected, after creating the Base database file, click on the tables, I get this error: SQL Status: 3031 Error code: -2147217843 Not a valid password. Is there anyway to specify this? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
