Re: [dev] Issue 4925

2005-04-26 Thread Ken Foskey 
On Mon, 2005-04-25 at 10:05 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 Hello,
 
 For the past three years this issue has gone unresolved.  In an 
 attempt to bring more attention to this BUG, I am reaching out to my 
 community.  I am pleading for someone to resolve this issue.   Every 
 developer that uses Ooo for manipulating data and saving it as a CSV file 
 has to find another application (MS Excel) to get there work done.  Please 
 help us.
 
 http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4925
 

Try this in excel:

Format a column short so that you get  for field overflow.
Write to a CSV file.
Look at it, the field is ### in the export file.

There are flaws with the MS model.

There probably should be an option however I have heard that the major
problem is the lack of certain functions (from spreadsheet people).
Basically what is your major problem is not others.  There are other
methods of solving your problem so you could work around it or just work
with your own external formatting rules therefore it is not a major show
stopper even for you.  It is more of an annoyance.

CSV is a really bad format, I have seen csv files from excel loaded into
excel that are totally different.  I have seen interoperability problems
with csv files between applications.  I STRONGLY recommend you abandon
csv files as a method of transporting data between applications.

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Ken Foskey
OpenOffice.org developer



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[dev] Issue 4925

2005-04-25 Thread abraham . elias 
Hello,

For the past three years this issue has gone unresolved.  In an 
attempt to bring more attention to this BUG, I am reaching out to my 
community.  I am pleading for someone to resolve this issue.   Every 
developer that uses Ooo for manipulating data and saving it as a CSV file 
has to find another application (MS Excel) to get there work done.  Please 
help us.

http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4925

Warm regards,
Abe

Re: [dev] Issue 4925

2005-04-25 Thread Daniel Carrera 
Hello Abe,
Disclaimer: I am not a developer. I don't have the skill to fix this issue.
First, so you don't take things the wrong way, let me explain that OOo 
does not use the words BUG and Enhancement the way you use them in 
every day life. This is an internal classification system. If the 
software is not working the way it was designed to do, it's classified 
as BUG. If it works the way it was designed to, but the design itself 
hast to change, it's called a Enhancement.

These words do not mean more important or less important. The are QA 
terms with very rigid definitions. They are not an opinion on the merit 
of the issue.

Second, on the matter of UI. UI is user interface, reagardless of 
whether it's graphical or not. If we change the way CVS files are saved, 
that is a UI change.

Finally, please realize that our over-worked developers have thousands 
of features and bugs to worry about. As it is, the release of OOo 2.0 
has already been delayed a lot.

Now, on to this issue. As I said, I don't have the skill to fix it. I'm 
not a developer, I work on documentation. But what I /can/ suggest is 
that you /join/ some OOo mailing lists, and encourage people to vote for 
this issue.

I suggest you start with [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe, send an 
email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and respond to the 
confirmation email.

Developers do pay attention to votes. Though I would be lying to you if 
I said that you can expect a fix soon. This is because the 2.0 release 
is well past the UI freeze. You may have better luck trying to get a 
community developer to write an add-on for this.

I'm sorry I couldn't be more useful.
Best,
Daniel.
OOo volunteer.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello,
For the past three years this issue has gone unresolved.  In an 
attempt to bring more attention to this BUG, I am reaching out to my 
community.  I am pleading for someone to resolve this issue.   Every 
developer that uses Ooo for manipulating data and saving it as a CSV file 
has to find another application (MS Excel) to get there work done.  Please 
help us.

http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4925
Warm regards,
Abe
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Digital Distribution Global Training Services Pty. Ltd.
Premier OpenOffice.org and StarOffice Online Training providers
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