[dev] Re: [council-discuss] election machinery (was Re: [council-discuss] Call for Nominations for Community Council Election)

2009-10-31 Thread eric b

Hi,

just a question :

In the first pahsis of the process, Alexandro Colorado nominateed me,  
for the Code representative seat. What I refused, for good personal  
reasons, i.e. I'm not candidate.


And in the list Louis published, I don't see I was nominated at all.

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I see a difference between a  
nominee (can be proposed without being informed if not subscribed the  
right list) , and a candidate, who activaly accepted.



I think what will be retained is not what really happened, and I  
think this is not respecftull for Alexandro and me, and worse, does  
not provide a good image ot your 'elections process'.



Thanks in advance for the clarification


Eric Bachard
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OpenOffice.org Education Project



Le 31 oct. 09 à 09:54, Stefan Taxhet a écrit :


Hi,

Louis Suarez-Potts wrote:

On 2009-10-30, at 16:07 , Stefan Taxhet wrote:

The 3 surveys are now ready to be started.
I would like to create accounts and/or grant access for the  
observers and you so that you can follow the progress.

Thanks.
Go ahead and send a message to the lists notifying people that  
the 2 weeks voting period starts. Then I'll immediately initiate  
that voters get the invitations with the URL.
But do we agree then that we must follow, for this election, the 2  
week period? It is codified in the Process and so I'd say, yes.


Let's go with the given timeframe. For observers there is always  
the chance to see whether the election is decided...



But do the Council members agree?


At least I do ;-)

Greetings
Stefan

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Re: [dev] Re: [council-discuss] election machinery (was Re: [council-discuss] Call for Nominations for Community Council Election)

2009-10-31 Thread eric b

Hi Andre,


Le 31 oct. 09 à 10:19, André Schnabel a écrit :


I think what will be retained is not what really happened, and I  
think this is not respecftull for Alexandro and me, and worse,  
does not provide a good image ot your 'elections process'.


I don't get your point - really. Interested people already know the  
story,


You always disagree with my point of view, I know, but that's not the  
point. The point is the process must respect people, and my feeling  
is, this is not the case.
But you are right to talk about a story, when I see how many time it  
took to organize these elections :-)


Anyway, thanks for the explanation, and good luck to the new CC.

Eric Bachard


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Re: [dev] Re: [council-discuss] election machinery (was Re: [council-discuss] Call for Nominations for Community Council Election)

2009-10-31 Thread André Schnabel

Hi Eric,

eric b schrieb:

Hi Andre,


Le 31 oct. 09 à 10:19, André Schnabel a écrit :


I think what will be retained is not what really happened, and I 
think this is not respecftull for Alexandro and me, and worse, does 
not provide a good image ot your 'elections process'.


I don't get your point - really. Interested people already know the 
story,


You always disagree with my point of view, I know, but that's not the 
point. 


I surely do not *always*  disagree to your point of view. I fact I even 
often agreed and tried present your point to other people.


The point is the process must respect people, and my feeling is, this 
is not the case.
Sentences like you just wrote show deepest disrespect for other people 
(me in this case).


But you are right to talk about a story, when I see how many time it 
took to organize these elections :-)


Everybody is free to organize the elections - as long as she will follow 
the rules. The council is responsible to define the rules and make sure 
the rules are followed. This does not mean that council members need to 
do all the administrative tasks. Everybody is free to ask, if he can 
take this tasks. (I never saw anybody doing this - and the call for 
observers I once did, was only answered by two non-council-members.)
Ok, I can accept thatnotmany peoplehave the timeto organizeand run 
elections.


Anyway - it's nice to see, that you have the time to point to problems 
in the process (if your person is affected).


André

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Re: [dev] Re: [council-discuss] election machinery (was Re: [council-discuss] Call for Nominations for Community Council Election)

2009-10-31 Thread Cor Nouws

Hi Eric,

eric b wrote (31-10-2009 10:06)
I think what will be retained is not what really happened, and I think 
this is not respecftull for Alexandro and me, and worse, does not 
provide a good image ot your 'elections process'.


All is well archived on the various mail lists.
Pls don't worry: we won't forget you.

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Re: [dev] Re: [council-discuss] election machinery (was Re: [council-discuss] Call for Nominations for Community Council Election)

2009-10-31 Thread Mechtilde
Hello Eric,

eric b schrieb:
 Hi,

 I think what will be retained is not what really happened, and I think
 this is not respecftull for Alexandro and me, and worse, does not
 provide a good image ot your 'elections process'.
 
 Thanks in advance for the clarification

There are more candidates asked for nominatiton than published at the lists.

They are asked *before* publishing it to the lists.

my 2 ct

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