Re: [dev] Rich Text Format Support in OpenOffice.org Writer
Thank you very much Cedric. I shall get in touch with Miklos. Regards, Colin On 17/06/2010 9:35 PM, Cédric Bosdonnat wrote: Hi Colin, Le jeudi 17 juin 2010 à 21:16 +1000, Colin White a écrit : I was thinking that unittests need to be written beginning with the older RTF specifications in order that OOo can be checked for conformity to the part of the spec that is publicly released. I had a look at the QA project but the test specifications and scripts seem to be more written around fixing existing issues rather than checking conformity with existing format specifications. My thoughts are that the unittests should be capable of being run against both OOo and MS Word. How is the testing currently done? There is currently no unit testing for RTF (as well as the other formats). You should definately get in touch with Miklos Vajna as he's started to write an RTF beautifier: this is a first step to comparing RTF files. This task can be pretty complex... but if you have an idea, don't hesitate to implement it. We'll welcome any tool helping us to test and avoid regressions. Unfortunately I cannot program in C++ at the moment but I can manage to program in Python and C (although the C is quite rusty as it has been a few years). Then go for python ;) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [dev] Rich Text Format Support in OpenOffice.org Writer
Hello Chris, Le mercredi 16 juin 2010 à 13:02 -0700, Chris Carpenter a écrit : I would like to volunteer my services to help improve the RTF support for openoffice.org writer. However, I am a fairly new programmer and would require some guidance getting into the code base, and also some guidance on how to work with a large project such as this one. Then you should join me and vmiklos on a Gsoc task. Miklos is currently implementing a new export filter for RTF and I'm mentoring him. You could get some help there. We're often hanging on the #go-oo IRC channel on irc.freenode.net. The first question is probably: Why would I want to improve RTF support? Well, my college uses exclusively Microsoft Word for essentianally everything, and doesn't support anything else well. The only concession they will make is to allow submissions in, and send documents in, RTF format. Since RTF support isn't the best right now, i'd like to see if I can manage to improve it, even if only a little bit. I had a discussion about why I'd want to do this here: http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7t=31596. If anyone has the time to point me in the right direction, it would be appreciated. You could start implementing an RTF tokenizer for the new writerfilter import filter. This would help us create a brand new RTF import filter sharing a lot of code with .docx import and a future .doc import filter (those 3 formats are really similar). I could help you getting started on that as well. You can contact me privately or on IRC (my nick is cbosdonnat) to help you actually start coding. Regards, -- Cédric Bosdonnat Go-oo hacker http://go-oo.org OOo Eclipse Integration developer http://cedric.bosdonnat.free.fr - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [dev] Rich Text Format Support in OpenOffice.org Writer
Hi, Firstly, please excuse my ignorance as I am a newbie and my understanding is limited to what I have been able to glean of the internet so far. I'd like to help out too if possible as I have been toying with an idea in my mind for some time now and I wanted to bounce it off this forum to see if there is any merit in it. I was thinking that unittests need to be written beginning with the older RTF specifications in order that OOo can be checked for conformity to the part of the spec that is publicly released. I had a look at the QA project but the test specifications and scripts seem to be more written around fixing existing issues rather than checking conformity with existing format specifications. My thoughts are that the unittests should be capable of being run against both OOo and MS Word. How is the testing currently done? Unfortunately I cannot program in C++ at the moment but I can manage to program in Python and C (although the C is quite rusty as it has been a few years). I sure would appreciate being pointed in the right direction. Thanks in advance, Colin On 17/06/2010 5:39 PM, Cédric Bosdonnat wrote: Hello Chris, Le mercredi 16 juin 2010 à 13:02 -0700, Chris Carpenter a écrit : I would like to volunteer my services to help improve the RTF support for openoffice.org writer. However, I am a fairly new programmer and would require some guidance getting into the code base, and also some guidance on how to work with a large project such as this one. Then you should join me and vmiklos on a Gsoc task. Miklos is currently implementing a new export filter for RTF and I'm mentoring him. You could get some help there. We're often hanging on the #go-oo IRC channel on irc.freenode.net. The first question is probably: Why would I want to improve RTF support? Well, my college uses exclusively Microsoft Word for essentianally everything, and doesn't support anything else well. The only concession they will make is to allow submissions in, and send documents in, RTF format. Since RTF support isn't the best right now, i'd like to see if I can manage to improve it, even if only a little bit. I had a discussion about why I'd want to do this here: http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7t=31596. If anyone has the time to point me in the right direction, it would be appreciated. You could start implementing an RTF tokenizer for the new writerfilter import filter. This would help us create a brand new RTF import filter sharing a lot of code with .docx import and a future .doc import filter (those 3 formats are really similar). I could help you getting started on that as well. You can contact me privately or on IRC (my nick is cbosdonnat) to help you actually start coding. Regards, - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [dev] Rich Text Format Support in OpenOffice.org Writer
Hi Colin, Le jeudi 17 juin 2010 à 21:16 +1000, Colin White a écrit : I was thinking that unittests need to be written beginning with the older RTF specifications in order that OOo can be checked for conformity to the part of the spec that is publicly released. I had a look at the QA project but the test specifications and scripts seem to be more written around fixing existing issues rather than checking conformity with existing format specifications. My thoughts are that the unittests should be capable of being run against both OOo and MS Word. How is the testing currently done? There is currently no unit testing for RTF (as well as the other formats). You should definately get in touch with Miklos Vajna as he's started to write an RTF beautifier: this is a first step to comparing RTF files. This task can be pretty complex... but if you have an idea, don't hesitate to implement it. We'll welcome any tool helping us to test and avoid regressions. Unfortunately I cannot program in C++ at the moment but I can manage to program in Python and C (although the C is quite rusty as it has been a few years). Then go for python ;) -- Cédric Bosdonnat Go-oo hacker http://go-oo.org OOo Eclipse Integration developer http://cedric.bosdonnat.free.fr - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.org
[dev] Rich Text Format Support in OpenOffice.org Writer
Hello, First off, I need to say that this is -not- a message complaining about rich text format support. Now that that is out of the way... I would like to volunteer my services to help improve the RTF support for openoffice.org writer. However, I am a fairly new programmer and would require some guidance getting into the code base, and also some guidance on how to work with a large project such as this one. The first question is probably: Why would I want to improve RTF support? Well, my college uses exclusively Microsoft Word for essentianally everything, and doesn't support anything else well. The only concession they will make is to allow submissions in, and send documents in, RTF format. Since RTF support isn't the best right now, i'd like to see if I can manage to improve it, even if only a little bit. I had a discussion about why I'd want to do this here: http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7t=31596. If anyone has the time to point me in the right direction, it would be appreciated. Thank you, Chris Carpenter(mordocai)
