Re: [OSM-dev] potlatch breaking B38a

2009-11-18 Thread marcus.wolschon
On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 08:29:29 +0100, Peter Körner osm-li...@mazdermind.de
wrote:
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/4382669$
 should this be http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/43826694
 or http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/4382669
 or sth. else?


http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/3147878
This is the changeset.


Marcus

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Re: [OSM-dev] potlatch breaking B38a

2009-11-18 Thread Grant Slater
2009/11/18  marcus.wolsc...@googlemail.com:
 On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 08:29:29 +0100, Peter Körner osm-li...@mazdermind.de
 wrote:
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/4382669$
 should this be http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/43826694
 or http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/4382669
 or sth. else?


 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/3147878
 This is the changeset.


I'll revert it.

/ Grant

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Re: [OSM-dev] potlatch breaking B38a

2009-11-18 Thread Shaun McDonald

On 18 Nov 2009, at 07:17, marcus.wolsc...@googlemail.com wrote:

 
 I just selected multiple ways of a long road in the
 correct order in potlatch and
 clicked to add them to a new relation.

For your information, Potlatch does not allow the selecting of multiple ways. 
Shift clicking ways joins them together. What you can do is select one way set 
the relation, then click the next way and shift click the relation button to 
add the last relation that has been used to the way or node.

Richard: The tags don't match message should probably have something about ways 
being merged prepended.

Shaun


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Re: [OSM-dev] potlatch breaking B38a

2009-11-18 Thread marcus.wolschon
On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 01:05:02 -0800, Stellan Lagerstrom
lagerst...@blindsight.com wrote:
 marcus.wolsc...@googlemail.com wrote:
 I just selected multiple ways of a long road in the
 correct order in potlatch and
 clicked to add them to a new relation.

   
 As you may have discovered, that is not how Potlatch works. You *cannot*
 select more than one road at a time.
 Shift-clicking joins roads.

Yes, I know that now.
I found that behavior not only
counter-intuitive but outright dangerous.
Visual feedback is exactly as one would expect,
nothing to point out that it has joined the ways,
no warning that the ways do not even have identical tags,...

Marcus

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Re: [OSM-dev] potlatch breaking B38a

2009-11-18 Thread marcus.wolschon
On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 08:38:04 +, Grant Slater
openstreet...@firefishy.com wrote:
 2009/11/18 Grant Slater openstreet...@firefishy.com:
 2009/11/18  marcus.wolsc...@googlemail.com:
 On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 08:29:29 +0100, Peter Körner
 osm-li...@mazdermind.de
 wrote:
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/4382669$
 should this be http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/43826694
 or http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/4382669
 or sth. else?


 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/3147878
 This is the changeset.


 I'll revert it.

 
 Done.

Thanks. :)

I created the missing relation again, this time
selecting only 1 way at a time and it worked.
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/331137

Marcus

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Re: [OSM-dev] Reference .osm for render testing?

2009-11-18 Thread Michael Kussmaul
Great - I was searching for something like this!

many thanks
Michael

On 17.11.2009, at 12:05, Patrick Petschge Kilian wrote:

 Hi,
 
 Is there an artificial reference .osm available, which shows different
 rendering scenarios?
 
 Especially for those building a rendering engine, it could be useful to
 have a simple OSM, which just contains all OSM map-feature, special cases
 (like multipolygons with holes, streets above another, ...) and a
 reference rendering (e.g. Mapnik, Osmarender) - as otherwise we have to
 hunt for special regions on the whole world.osm.
 
 Osmarender has some test data which come close. You can look at them at:
 
 http://trac.openstreetmap.org/browser/applications/rendering/osmarender/testdata
 
 The file named comprehensive.osm probably comes closest to what you
 want. I'm not aware of the availability of rendered images of those
 datafile. Neither for osmarender nor for mapnik.
 
 
 HTH and HAND,
 Patrick Petschge Kilian
 


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Re: [OSM-dev] potlatch breaking B38a

2009-11-18 Thread Stellan Lagerstrom
marcus.wolsc...@googlemail.com wrote:

 I found that behavior not only
 counter-intuitive but outright dangerous.
 Visual feedback is exactly as one would expect,
 nothing to point out that it has joined the ways,
 no warning that the ways do not even have identical tags,...
   
The warning only appears if the tags are conflicting, that is, if the
same tag has different values on the two ways.
Not if a tag is on only one way.
In the case of a road with a bridge, this was usually one way that was
split to insert the bridge, so they have identical tags... no warning.
The combined result gets bridge and layer tags.

/Stellan



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Re: [OSM-dev] 401 after PUT /api/0.6/[node|way|relation]/#id?

2009-11-18 Thread Marcus Wolschon
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 7:17 PM, Karl Guggisberg
karl.guggisb...@guggis.ch wrote:
 Hi

 A JOSM user reported a 401 status message after a PUT
 /api/0.6/[node|way|relation]/#id,
 see
  https://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/3887#comment:7

Why is it doing a PUT http://api.openstreetmap.org/api/0.6/way/29495765?
It should be doing a GET here as it´s downloading, not uploading.

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Re: [OSM-dev] 401 after PUT /api/0.6/[node|way|relation]/#id?

2009-11-18 Thread Karl Guggisberg
I  think it's this call, not the GET equivalent
  
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/API_v0.6#Update:_PUT_.2Fapi.2F0.6.2F.5Bnode.7Cway.7Crelation.5D.2F.23id

Regards
Karl


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Gesendet: Mittwoch, 18. November 2009 19:27
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Cc: dev@openstreetmap.org
Betreff: Re: [OSM-dev] 401 after PUT /api/0.6/[node|way|relation]/#id?

On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 7:17 PM, Karl Guggisberg karl.guggisb...@guggis.ch 
wrote:
 Hi

 A JOSM user reported a 401 status message after a PUT 
 /api/0.6/[node|way|relation]/#id, see
  https://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/3887#comment:7

Why is it doing a PUT http://api.openstreetmap.org/api/0.6/way/29495765?
It should be doing a GET here as it´s downloading, not uploading.

Marcus


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Re: [OSM-dev] 401 after PUT /api/0.6/[node|way|relation]/#id?

2009-11-18 Thread Tom Hughes
On 18/11/09 18:17, Karl Guggisberg wrote:

 A JOSM user reported a 401 status message after a PUT
 /api/0.6/[node|way|relation]/#id,
 see
https://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/3887#comment:7

 (see his JOSM logs).

 Under what conditions is the OSM server replying a 401 after an object
 update?

When the request does not provide valid authentication details.

Tom

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[OSM-dev] Mapink others - Sea, region, state, county rendering?

2009-11-18 Thread Marjan Vrban
Could devlopers make Mapink to render sea names, region names, county
rendering?

I see there are nodes with names, but AFAIK no noline renderer supports
them.

It would be good that it can render those name depending on size of area it
takes. 
For example Pacific ocean (very large) ; Black Sea (smaller), Ioninian sea
(small). Label visibility should depend on size.

Also this could apply on states, regions, counties. Look at Switzerland on
lower zoom levels it's a mess on Mapink, swiss kanton names are
everywhere.


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Re: [OSM-dev] [PATCH] wiki.openstreetmap.org looks crappy in webkit (Chrome et al)

2009-11-18 Thread Tom Hughes
On 19/11/09 00:00, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote:
 The OSM wiki looks bad in recent webkit-based browsers due to an
 outdated KHTML hack in MediaWiki, to fix it delete:

 phase3/skins/monobook/KHTMLFixes.css

 And apply this patch:
 http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/phase3/skins/common/wikibits.js?r1=53141r2=53140pathrev=53141diff_format=u

Our mediawiki install should be updated to the latest version in the 
fairly near future, which I assume will fix this?

Tom

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Re: [OSM-dev] potlatch breaking B38a

2009-11-18 Thread Richard Fairhurst

Marcus Wolschon wrote:
 I found that behavior not only
 counter-intuitive but outright dangerous.
 Visual feedback is exactly as one would expect,
 nothing to point out that it has joined the ways,
 no warning that the ways do not even have identical tags,...

...no chance that users might actually read some documentation? No, of
course not. Silly me.

I've moved it from shift-click to command-click (or control-click for those
of you with inferior systems :p ), which is something I've been thinking
about doing for a while. Someone else can fix the documentation because,
well, I could do with some sleep.

cheers
Richard

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Re: [OSM-dev] potlatch breaking B38a

2009-11-18 Thread Marcus Wolschon
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 4:01 AM, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote:

 Marcus Wolschon wrote:
 ...no chance that users might actually read some documentation? No, of
 course not. Silly me.

We`ve all been spoiled by WindowsCo just expecting
ctrl+c to copy, enter to push a button that has focus, alt to
get to the menu, ...
Seriously, noone reads documentation that comes with
graphical software unless there is a feature the user knows
exists but can´t get to work.

Where is the sourcecode for potlatch and what is needed
to compile it? I may try to add a singe ways merges, press
z to undo like the message it displayes after deleting something.

Marcus

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