Re: [OSM-dev-fr] Cherche paquetage java pour manipulations geographiques simples

2013-06-10 Thread Nicolas Dumoulin
Le lundi 10 juin 2013 08:03:37 Ista Pouss a écrit :
 Bonjour,
 
 J'ai beaucoup de mal à m'y retrouver dans les paquetages java, entre
 geotools, jts, etc.
 
 Je voudrais, à partir de coordonnées issues d'éléments OSM, savoir si tel
 point est dans tel cadre, quelle surface j'obtiens si je tourne autour d'un
 point, etc dans le genre.

Je dirai qu'il semble y avoir la méthode Geometry.contains(Geometry) qui 
ferait bien le boulot.
Pour le chargement des données, je ne sais pas s'il existe quelquechose pour 
charger du OSM, sinon, tu n'as qu'à convertir des objet en shp au préalable.

 (ah et en plus il faut que ce soit sous maven ; j'ai l'impression que dans
 le monde geo/java on n'aime pas beaucoup cet outil, mais moi, là au moins
 c'est clair, je l'utilse à donf).

Ha oui, c'est clair. Même si aujourd'hui on fait encore mieux (sbt), j'aimerai 
bien que ça se généralise. Genre josm serait tellement plus simple sous maven, 
mais bref.
Oui les geotools sont très bien distribués avec maven (multi-modules).

Je ne peux pas plus t'aider pour l'instant.
Bon courage :-)

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Re: [OSM-dev-fr] Cherche paquetage java pour manipulations geographiques simples

2013-06-10 Thread Ista Pouss
Le 10 juin 2013 09:20, Nicolas Dumoulin 
nicolas_openstreetmap@dumoulin63.net a écrit :

 Je dirai qu'il semble y avoir la méthode Geometry.contains(Geometry) qui
 ferait bien le boulot.
 Pour le chargement des données, je ne sais pas s'il existe quelquechose
 pour
 charger du OSM, sinon, tu n'as qu'à convertir des objet en shp au
 préalable.


Oui mais dans le google-land j'ai vu de tout, même des qui disaient qu'on
pouvait utiliser java.awt.geometry, où il y a également ce genre de méthode
!?

Bref je comprends que :
- il vaut mieux que je me branche sur geotools
- que je me débrouille à trouver le lien magique geotools / osm... c'est
vrai qu'une fois que j'ai ça j'ai tout.


Let's go, on verra bien, qui vivra verra et autant en emporte le vent.

Merci et cordialement !


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Re: [OSM-dev] mod_tile on windows?

2013-06-10 Thread Peter Körner

Am 07.06.2013 17:29, schrieb Vince Berubey:

Hi Sven,
I was a looking for a way to generate tiles on the fly on windows, so I
would not have to use the generate_tiles.py.


You could try to use
 - 
http://blog.jochentopf.com/2011-03-03-a-nodejs-tileserver-for-tirex.html

 - http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/dev/2011-April/022186.html
 - or the module included in TileMill http://www.mapbox.com/tilemill/

Peter


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Re: [josm-dev] WMS layers default to automatically change resolution

2013-06-10 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/6/9 Stefan Breunig breu...@uni-hd.de

 yes this change was intentional.


thanks for replying. The problem is that some servers we are using here
might block you if you do too many requests in a short period of time, and
there is only one actual resolution, which is equal or slightly above that
of the original imagery and so makes sense to use if you want to get the
maximum out of the imagery  (also think about caching).



There’s only a build time variable to

turn if off by default[1], but it’s not accessible via the advanced
 preferences. I didn’t think anyone wanted this flipped, but I see no
 reason against making it available in an advanced pref. Can you provide
 a patch?



no, I am sorry, but I can't provide a patch.

cheers,
Martin
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Re: [josm-dev] WMS layers default to automatically change resolution

2013-06-10 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/6/10 Stefan Breunig breu...@uni-hd.de

  The problem is that some servers we are using
  here might block you if you do too many requests in a short period of
  time,

 The zoom snaps to certain resolutions to make caching work. Zooming out
 probably saves some requests because you need less tiles/images to fill
 your screen. Zooming in doesn’t, but then again I didn’t use high zoom
 levels very often in my practical tests. If you aren’t annoyed by this
 feature and only disable it out of fear to be rate-limited by your WMS,
 can you try it in every day use?



Usually I go to a zoom level (around 50 meters indicated in the scale in
the upper left corner of the screen) and remain there (this seems to
guarantee to have native resolution). This value has been tested by trial
and error and seems to guarantee full resolution of the server we are
accessing to.

We are using this
http://wms.pcn.minambiente.it/ogc?map=/ms_ogc/wms_v1.3/raster/ortofoto_colore_06.map
and this :
http://wms.pcn.minambiente.it/ogc?map=/ms_ogc/wms_v1.3/raster/ortofoto_colore_08.map
(has slightly higher resolution)
but I also don't know how to get the actual resolution of the imagery
behind.

I haven't been blocked recently by this server, but I am aware of some
other Italian mappers who access this with a fix IP, and they had serious
problems after being banned (they had traced e.g. railroads or rivers or
other features that imply the download of a lot of tiles compared to
tracing features like buildings in a relatively compact area. I agree that
this is mainly a problem of the provider's policy of this particular WMS
and not a general obstacle to change the JOSM defaults.

On slow servers the current default still seems to have other disadvantages
(it becomes even slower when you have to download several resolutions
instead of one, and I also don't see an advantage in using fewer than the
best resolution.



 Alternatively relay the WMS server
 details to me, so I can try. I believe having this default-on is more
 sensible, but only if it doesn’t turn out to be a problem.






 I had a look at the WMS specification when implementing this and found
 nothing of relevance to get the “native resolution” or available
 pre-rendered ones.  I had a look at some WMS servers if there’s maybe a
 non-standard way of including this, but I didn’t find anything. Take
 the map4bw server, for example. It definitely has resolution
 information[1] but it’s not included in the WMS file[2].

 Best regards,
 Stefan




Best regards,
Martin
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[josm-dev] web site down

2013-06-10 Thread colliar
The subject says it all.

Cheers
colliar



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