Re: [OSM-dev] How to get non-technical users easily editing (offline)?

2010-09-22 Thread Sam Wilson

 On 2010-09-22 3:47 PM, Jonathan Bennett wrote:

Take a look at Walking Papers:

http://walking-papers.org/

This does a similar thing, but with printouts that can be given to 
non-technical mappers to make notes on. You then scan the annotated 
map back into Walking Papers, which makes it available as a background 
in Potlatch (or JOSM, if you like).


The printouts are just PDFs, so you may already be able to hack 
something together using Walking Papers, but certain take a look and 
talk to Michal.


Yes, of course!  I was working from the idea of Walking Papers, but 
trying to apply it to screen-based editing.  But I could just *use* 
images straight from WP!


The biggest problem I have is that not all of the notes made on the maps 
will be of interest to OSM, and in some cases will contain private 
data.  So I was figuring on doing a fair bit of processing myself 
(there's usually only three or four field assessors doing the data 
collection).  I shall look into getting the JOSM Walking Papers plugin 
to use images from a local source.


(This project, by the way, if anyone's interested, is to assist power 
pole assessors in Western Australia; people who travel thousands of kms 
a month all over the state, driving all the back ways and small roads, 
and taking note of fences, gates, power lines.  We've started using OSM 
data for locating poles, and I thought it'd be nice to feed some of our 
data back in to the map.)


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Re: [OSM-dev] How to get non-technical users easily editing (offline)?

2010-09-22 Thread Sam Wilson

 On 2010-09-22 4:17 PM, John Smith wrote:

On 22 September 2010 18:10, Sam Wilsons...@archives.org.au  wrote:

(This project, by the way, if anyone's interested, is to assist power pole
assessors in Western Australia; people who travel thousands of kms a month

Are you planning to upload pole locations to OSM? The poles are of
interest to some, but I'm thinking the pole reference numbers to
lat/lon would be useful. Someone else expressed interest in emergency
phone reference numbers, so they could be used to more quickly locate
people, apparently private road ways don't need to supply this
information to government.
Ultimately, yes, but although I've got this data now (for all 3,340,068 
of them), it's not allowed to be used.  It's awfully wrong, too, in lots 
of cases!  So, it's forming the basis for pole locating, and then the 
confirmed positions will come back, and hopefully be allowed to be used 
in OSM.  Even if the locations and reference numbers of the poles are 
held back, the other stuff -- roads, tracks, fences, gates, etc. -- will 
be fine to upload.



all over the state, driving all the back ways and small roads, and taking
note of fences, gates, power lines.

Do these people keep GPS tracks by any chance?
Yes!  And they *used* to be accessible to me.  Recently, however, we 
moved to a different system, and I am still negotiating how they can be 
used.  I'm hoping to impress management with the pole locating stuff, 
and then they'll see the value of helping make the map better and better.


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Re: [OSM-dev] How to get non-technical users easily editing (offline)?

2010-09-22 Thread Sam Wilson

On 22/09/10 5:55 PM, Shaun McDonald wrote:

Have you taken a look at Potlatch2? It allows you to customise the
interface easily, so that only the appropriate things that are needed for
that group of editors is shown, thus making it easier for them.
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Potlatch_2/Deploying_Potlatch_2


Unfortunately, this all has to work offline, so Potlatch can't help me. 
 But really, that idea of limiting an editor to a specific set of tags 
(etc.) seems great; anyone know if one of the offline editors would lend 
itself to that sort of thing?


- Sam.

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