Re: [OSM-dev] Any OpenStreetMap viewer for Android?
I am sorry, I obviously didn't read everything on your web page. I clicked on the FAQ link and then from the table of contents on the What are your licensing options? link. This took me to: http://www.nutiteq.com/faq.html#What_are_your_licensing_options There it says: What are your licensing options? Basic license system is one-time fee per application. With single license you can distribute as many copies of the application as you wish; but if there is different application (for the user) then new license is required. Variations of application for different devices and languages are included in the single license, and do not require additional license. See more information about license pricing from the Pricing page. It doesn't say that GPL is an option. So I assumed that it isn't. I didn't see the section above it about the free use. I also looked on the Prices page (http://www.nutiteq.com/e-shop.html). The first sentence on this page is You must agree first with the license terms. Again the GPL is not mentioned here. This is very confusing. I suggest mentioning the GPS option on this page, too. As it stands, the web site has many seemingly conflicting licensing information at the moment. Maybe using the word dual-licensed in some places would make it clearer: MGMaps SDK is dual-licensed. You can use it as free software under the GPL license (see here for more...) or buy a commercial license... Jochen On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 10:12:25AM +0200, Jaak Laineste wrote: From: Jaak Laineste j...@nutiteq.com To: 'Nick Black' nickbla...@gmail.com, 'Jochen Topf' joc...@remote.org Cc: 'Stefan Keller' sfkel...@gmail.com, dev@openstreetmap.org Subject: RE: [OSM-dev] Any OpenStreetMap viewer for Android? Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 10:12:25 +0200 Hello, Yes, Nick is right - it is dual licensed: you can choose free GPL or paid commercial license option. Just like e.g. J2MEPolish is licensed. If GPL terms are not ok for you, then we can also offer discounted non-GPL licenses, especially for non-commercial projects. Just please do not hesitate to ask from me. If there is any doubt or unclear information on homepage, then your questions are suggestions are very welcome. /Jaak Laineste j...@nutiteq.com www.nutiteq.com Phone: +372 777 8800 Mobile: +372 509 2586 Skype: jaakl3000 -Original Message- From: Nick Black [mailto:nickbla...@gmail.com] Sent: 12. november 2009. a. 16:18 To: Jochen Topf; Jaak Laineste Cc: Stefan Keller; dev@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-dev] Any OpenStreetMap viewer for Android? Hi guys, I'll let Jaak from Nutiteq comment more, but it seems pretty clear to me: http://www.nutiteq.com/faq.html#What_are_your_licensing_options Can I use the tools for free? You can use MGMaps Lib SDK for free within the terms of GPL. It means that you need to license your application also as GPL, i.e. publish also your application source code. For commercial applications we suggest commercial licenses. You can use a GPL version of the SDK for free / gratis. If you do not want to license your end product GPL then you can license a non-GPL version of the code from Nutiteq. This is a pretty common form of licensing, used by MySQL AB and Trolltech for Qt (http://qt.nokia.com/products/licensing). I would certainly not say that Nutiteq don't know what they are talking about and I wouldn't stay away from them. They are a for profit company who are making their libraries available for open source developers to build on. That definitely puts them in my good books :-) -- Nick On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 3:15 AM, Jochen Topf joc...@remote.org wrote: On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 04:03:21PM +0100, Stefan Keller wrote: Here we are; trapped in the confusion I got before: * http://www.nutiteq.com/e-shop.html says MGMaps Lib SDK is open source toolkit * Inside the zip file of the lib there's a LICENSE file which says GPL. * http://developers.cloudmade.com/projects/show/j2me-lib-android at least implicitly supports this I interpret this as a dual license. I interpret this as they don't know what they are talking about, so keep away :-) Jochen -- Jochen Topf joc...@remote.org http://www.remote.org/jochen/ +49- 721-388298 ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev -- -- Nick Black twitter.com/nick_b -- Jochen Topf joc...@remote.org http://www.remote.org/jochen/ +49-721-388298 ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Any OpenStreetMap viewer for Android?
Hi guys, I'll let Jaak from Nutiteq comment more, but it seems pretty clear to me: http://www.nutiteq.com/faq.html#What_are_your_licensing_options Can I use the tools for free? You can use MGMaps Lib SDK for free within the terms of GPL. It means that you need to license your application also as GPL, i.e. publish also your application source code. For commercial applications we suggest commercial licenses. You can use a GPL version of the SDK for free / gratis. If you do not want to license your end product GPL then you can license a non-GPL version of the code from Nutiteq. This is a pretty common form of licensing, used by MySQL AB and Trolltech for Qt (http://qt.nokia.com/products/licensing). I would certainly not say that Nutiteq don't know what they are talking about and I wouldn't stay away from them. They are a for profit company who are making their libraries available for open source developers to build on. That definitely puts them in my good books :-) -- Nick On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 3:15 AM, Jochen Topf joc...@remote.org wrote: On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 04:03:21PM +0100, Stefan Keller wrote: Here we are; trapped in the confusion I got before: * http://www.nutiteq.com/e-shop.html says MGMaps Lib SDK is open source toolkit * Inside the zip file of the lib there's a LICENSE file which says GPL. * http://developers.cloudmade.com/projects/show/j2me-lib-android at least implicitly supports this I interpret this as a dual license. I interpret this as they don't know what they are talking about, so keep away :-) Jochen -- Jochen Topf joc...@remote.org http://www.remote.org/jochen/ +49-721-388298 ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev -- -- Nick Black twitter.com/nick_b ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Any OpenStreetMap viewer for Android?
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 09:55:31PM +0100, Stefan Keller wrote: I additionally found MGMaps (available at www.nutiteq.com/libsdk.html), but it's actually 'only' an SDK lib. After some confusions about the license I got convinced that it's GPL for non-commercial use. I added it at the bottom of the afore mentioned Wiki page. There is no such thing as GPL for non-commercial use. They claim on their web page somewhere that their SDK is Open Source, but it's not. See the FAQ here: http://www.nutiteq.com/faq.html#What_are_your_licensing_options Jochen -- Jochen Topf joc...@remote.org http://www.remote.org/jochen/ +49-721-388298 ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Any OpenStreetMap viewer for Android?
Hi Stefan, On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 2:39 AM, Stefan Keller sfkel...@gmail.com wrote: Am I right that there's no OpenStreetMap viewer software available for Android-based phones - at least no open source except AndNav2? -S. BTW: Just saw this: Google’s Android-based devices made by companies such as Motorola and HTC are about to hit the market in large numbers in 2010. ( http://gigaom.com/2009/09/24/iphone-nokias-troubles-by-the-numbers/ ) You can try to build OSM-Android from sources (we will provide an .apk and some sample data soon) by going here: http://code.google.com/p/osm-android/ Build instructions are in the Wiki: http://code.google.com/p/osm-android/wiki/BuildInstructions --Ciprian ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Any OpenStreetMap viewer for Android?
Viewer to do what? Viewer to view OSM data (via OSM API) like i.e. mgmaps.com (and nutiteq.com) for J2ME mobiles. Not all of AndNav2 is open source, core components aren't. That's a pitty (and doesn't fulfill my needs): I would have wished that core component are open source, and add-ons aren't. -S. 2009/9/28 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com: 2009/9/28 Stefan Keller sfkel...@gmail.com: Am I right that there's no OpenStreetMap viewer software available for Viewer to do what? Android-based phones - at least no open source except AndNav2? Not all of AndNav2 is open source, core components aren't. ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Any OpenStreetMap viewer for Android?
2009/9/28 Stefan Keller sfkel...@gmail.com: That's a pitty (and doesn't fulfill my needs): I would have wished that core component are open source, and add-ons aren't. The map lib, like mgmaps.com's lib is open source, routing and other sections aren't. ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Any OpenStreetMap viewer for Android?
sk == Stefan Keller sfkel...@gmail.com writes: sk Am I right that there's no OpenStreetMap viewer software available for sk Android-based phones - at least no open source except AndNav2? There is an experimental port of Navit, which does on-device vector rendering and routing with OSM data. It works reasonably well in my limited testing so far. http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/Navit_on_Android There is also an experimental on-device editor called Vespucci http://www.cyrket.com/package/de.blau.android http://code.google.com/p/osmeditor4android/wiki/Overview which writes directly to the API. With the multiple excellent logging applications that are available, Android is a nice mobile platform for OSM! -- Eric Marsden ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Any OpenStreetMap viewer for Android?
Many thanks for all the hints so far. Regarding Navit I did not found any sources on the SVN and it's far from being easy to install. Vespucci declares itself explicitely as NOT being a map-view or even a routing-application. And it failed to work on my G1. Remains actually osm-android (http://code.google.com/p/osm-android/) and eventually AndNav2 of which we'll have a closer look. Yours, S. 2009/9/28 Eric Marsden eric.mars...@free.fr: sk == Stefan Keller sfkel...@gmail.com writes: sk Am I right that there's no OpenStreetMap viewer software available for sk Android-based phones - at least no open source except AndNav2? There is an experimental port of Navit, which does on-device vector rendering and routing with OSM data. It works reasonably well in my limited testing so far. http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/Navit_on_Android There is also an experimental on-device editor called Vespucci http://www.cyrket.com/package/de.blau.android http://code.google.com/p/osmeditor4android/wiki/Overview which writes directly to the API. With the multiple excellent logging applications that are available, Android is a nice mobile platform for OSM! -- Eric Marsden ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Any OpenStreetMap viewer for Android?
There a page in wiki: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Android that lists also other OSM software for Android. Stefan On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 11:21 PM, Stefan Keller sfkel...@gmail.com wrote: Many thanks for all the hints so far. Regarding Navit I did not found any sources on the SVN and it's far from being easy to install. Vespucci declares itself explicitely as NOT being a map-view or even a routing-application. And it failed to work on my G1. Remains actually osm-android (http://code.google.com/p/osm-android/) and eventually AndNav2 of which we'll have a closer look. Yours, S. 2009/9/28 Eric Marsden eric.mars...@free.fr: sk == Stefan Keller sfkel...@gmail.com writes: sk Am I right that there's no OpenStreetMap viewer software available for sk Android-based phones - at least no open source except AndNav2? There is an experimental port of Navit, which does on-device vector rendering and routing with OSM data. It works reasonably well in my limited testing so far. http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/Navit_on_Android There is also an experimental on-device editor called Vespucci http://www.cyrket.com/package/de.blau.android http://code.google.com/p/osmeditor4android/wiki/Overview which writes directly to the API. With the multiple excellent logging applications that are available, Android is a nice mobile platform for OSM! -- Eric Marsden ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
[OSM-dev] Any OpenStreetMap viewer for Android?
Am I right that there's no OpenStreetMap viewer software available for Android-based phones - at least no open source except AndNav2? -S. BTW: Just saw this: Google’s Android-based devices made by companies such as Motorola and HTC are about to hit the market in large numbers in 2010. (http://gigaom.com/2009/09/24/iphone-nokias-troubles-by-the-numbers/ ) ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Any OpenStreetMap viewer for Android?
2009/9/28 Stefan Keller sfkel...@gmail.com: Am I right that there's no OpenStreetMap viewer software available for Viewer to do what? Android-based phones - at least no open source except AndNav2? Not all of AndNav2 is open source, core components aren't. ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
