Re: [release] Last release of Shale?
On Dec 19, 2007 4:32 PM, Rahul Akolkar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looks like the two remaining issues are the snapshot version of the shale-master pom, and the Tiles dependency which is on an old snapshot. Shale Tiles does not compile against any release of Tiles 2. Is anyone planning to work on the Tiles integration? snap/ This seems to be on the critical path. Anyone? I'm listening, but having a hard time making time to do the Tiles thing. My work is starting to slow down a bit. Maybe I can jump in and upgrade the Tiles support by the end of the week. Greg
Re: [release] Last release of Shale?
On 12/6/07, Gary VanMatre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Matthias Wessendorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, as discussed already (here/[EMAIL PROTECTED]) there will be a move of Shale (or some parts of it), into MyFaces. But, before a thing like that will happen, we should release 1.0.5 1.1.0 I'd like to see another release. I know there are several outstanding bugs logged that need addressed. I hammered down a few several months ago but have not made the time to dig in again. I saw that Rahul did some work last week too. I think another release would be important on both branches. If we decide to merge with myfaces and don't take all of the existing modules, I'm not sure what that will do to people have investments in shale. For example, Ryan Wynn has shared that they have developed a very large portal (man years of development) using Clay. That's just one example and I'm sure there are others that have taken advantage of other parts of shale. For this reason, I'm rethinking the cafeteria proposal. I plan to be more active in the future. IMO, Shale is a lost leader now. Maybe Shale should consider pulling in more volunteers. That seems to be a secret to Struts success over the years. That leads to the next question, would they all be myfaces commiter anyway and would it just make sense to join communities. snip/ Glad to know that you're planning to be more active in the future, in the activity begets activity vein ( rather than launch into any new text, let me just point to Hen's notes [1] ). Also, I don't think we should be calling out releases as last releases (unless the PMC makes / has made that decision). I was occupied elsewhere in Apache land for a couple of weeks (and will be till the weekend), but I want to help with a release from one of the branches (say, 1_0_X). If this can happen at the year end, I will have more time. -Rahul [1] http://blog.generationjava.com/roller/bayard/entry/activity-begets-activity Gary WDYT? -- Matthias Wessendorf further stuff: blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf mail: matzew-at-apache-dot-org
Re: [release] Last release of Shale?
On 12/8/07, Wendy Smoak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 8, 2007 6:40 PM, Wendy Smoak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm looking at the 1.0.x branch, trying to get everything into a single distribution so that it's easy to release. Or not. I didn't realize how many example apps we have! I put them back in a profile so they're not part of the default build. Use -Dapps to activate the profile. I switched to the latest assembly plugin version (2.2-beta-1) and attached the framework distribution assembly so it should build during the normal lifecycle (i.e., when you type 'mvn site install' instead of having to type 'cd shale-dist; mvn assembly:assembly'.) The contents need to be verified, though. It might not be picking up the documentation. snip/ OK, I intend to take a look at the changes over the weekend. Looks like the two remaining issues are the snapshot version of the shale-master pom, and the Tiles dependency which is on an old snapshot. Shale Tiles does not compile against any release of Tiles 2. Is anyone planning to work on the Tiles integration? snap/ This seems to be on the critical path. Anyone? -Rahul -- Wendy
Re: [release] Last release of Shale?
On Dec 6, 2007 8:15 AM, Matthias Wessendorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: as discussed already (here/[EMAIL PROTECTED]) there will be a move of Shale (or some parts of it), into MyFaces. But, before a thing like that will happen, we should release 1.0.5 1.1.0 WDYT? I'm looking at the 1.0.x branch, trying to get everything into a single distribution so that it's easy to release. I'm not sure about releasing the 1.1 trunk. It hasn't had a release so far, is anyone really using it? -- Wendy
Re: [release] Last release of Shale?
As I have posted on this list before, I am in favor of releasing Shale in it's current state before moving any parts of it to MyFaces. Paul Spencer Matthias Wessendorf wrote: Hi, as discussed already (here/[EMAIL PROTECTED]) there will be a move of Shale (or some parts of it), into MyFaces. But, before a thing like that will happen, we should release 1.0.5 1.1.0 WDYT?
Re: [release] Last release of Shale?
myfaces is already pretty large, so if you feel, that Shale should stay a TLP, I have no problems with that. I just came back to this idea, b/c was discussed in the past, nothing happened, and Shale is pretty ... quite, these days. -M On Dec 6, 2007 5:13 PM, Gary VanMatre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Matthias Wessendorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, as discussed already (here/[EMAIL PROTECTED]) there will be a move of Shale (or some parts of it), into MyFaces. But, before a thing like that will happen, we should release 1.0.5 1.1.0 I'd like to see another release. I know there are several outstanding bugs logged that need addressed. I hammered down a few several months ago but have not made the time to dig in again. I saw that Rahul did some work last week too. I think another release would be important on both branches. If we decide to merge with myfaces and don't take all of the existing modules, I'm not sure what that will do to people have investments in shale. For example, Ryan Wynn has shared that they have developed a very large portal (man years of development) using Clay. That's just one example and I'm sure there are others that have taken advantage of other parts of shale. For this reason, I'm rethinking the cafeteria proposal. I plan to be more active in the future. IMO, Shale is a lost leader now. Maybe Shale should consider pulling in more volunteers. That seems to be a secret to Struts success over the years. That leads to the next question, would they all be myfaces commiter anyway and would it just make sense to join communities. Gary WDYT? -- Matthias Wessendorf further stuff: blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf mail: matzew-at-apache-dot-org -- Matthias Wessendorf further stuff: blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf mail: matzew-at-apache-dot-org
Re: [release] Last release of Shale?
Gary VanMatre wrote: From: Matthias Wessendorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] myfaces is already pretty large, so if you feel, that Shale should stay a TLP, I have no problems with that. I just came back to this idea, b/c was discussed in the past, nothing happened, and Shale is pretty ... quite, these days. There hasn't been allot of activity. Although, I think that other apache projects have periods of less activity. But, I've not seen many request on the mailing lists for features to be implemented and releases to be made. From the stand point of finding what you need from a mailing list, a low traffic mailing list is a good thing. The MyFaces lists are contains MyFaces for JSF 1.1, MyFaces for JSF 1.2, Tomahawk, Trinidad, Orchestra, and JSF Commons traffic. Adding Shale and it's sub projects will just increase the traffic and user frustration. A wild thought. Why not move JSF Commons, in whole or part, into Shale? This is a way of strengthen the Shale community. -M On Dec 6, 2007 5:13 PM, Gary VanMatre wrote: From: Matthias Wessendorf Hi, as discussed already (here/[EMAIL PROTECTED]) there will be a move of Shale (or some parts of it), into MyFaces. But, before a thing like that will happen, we should release 1.0.5 1.1.0 I'd like to see another release. I know there are several outstanding bugs logged that need addressed. I hammered down a few several months ago but have not made the time to dig in again. I saw that Rahul did some work last week too. I think another release would be important on both branches. If we decide to merge with myfaces and don't take all of the existing modules, I'm not sure what that will do to people have investments in shale. For example, Ryan Wynn has shared that they have developed a very large portal (man years of development) using Clay. That's just one example and I'm sure there are others that have taken advantage of other parts of shale. For this reason, I'm rethinking the cafeteria proposal. I plan to be more active in the future. IMO, Shale is a lost leader now. Maybe Shale should consider pulling in more volunteers. That seems to be a secret to Struts success over the years. That leads to the next question, would they all be myfaces commiter anyway and would it just make sense to join communities. Gary WDYT? -- Matthias Wessendorf further stuff: blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf mail: matzew-at-apache-dot-org -- Matthias Wessendorf further stuff: blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf mail: matzew-at-apache-dot-org
