date:20151104

Re: Terminate the Apache Shindig Project

2015-11-04 Thread Darren Bond

Dear All,

I'd like to second Ron's query relating to support. Our team successfully 
integrated Shindig some time ago but their skill-set does not extend to 
maintaining/extending (Java) Shindig itself. Would be interested to hear 
from anyone interested in doing so and/or supporting the project under 
GitHub or some other repository as permitted.

Kind regards,

Darren


 From: "Ron Wheeler" 
Sent: Wednesday, November 4, 2015 2:35 PM
To: dev@shindig.apache.org
Subject: Re: Terminate the Apache Shindig Project

Is the inactivity due to absence of bugs and no suggestions for 
enhancements or no interest in fixing bugs or adding missing features?

If an organization still wanted to use it but wanted support, are there 
individuals willing and able to provide support on a commercial basis?

What are the other projects and products that depend on Shindig doing in 
light of the cessation of development?

Ron

On 04/11/2015 9:01 AM, Ryan Baxter wrote:
> Ichiro, while the project will move to the attic, it doesn't mean you 
can't
> continue to use it.  If it is stable enough as it is right now for you 
than
> you should be able to continue to use it as is.
>
> On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 5:59 AM Ichiro Furusato 

> wrote:
>
>> To add just one more voice to the chorus, I'm likewise very sad to hear 
of
>> the demise of what
>> seemed (until this notice) to be a functional and mature project. For 
the
>> past nine months I have
>> advocated replacing the four (!) existing (legacy) aviation and 
industry
>> delivery platforms of the
>> Meteorological Service of New Zealand (MetService) with a 
Liferay/Shindig
>> based site. Over the
>> past year we prototyped a replacement service and are currently 
awaiting
>> the next project
>> funding cycle. Having to go back to our executive management team and 
tell
>> them that the
>> basic architecture of our proposed service is somewhat embarrassing, and 
we
>> will likewise now
>> need to reevaluate and design a new solution. As the lead designer I 
have
>> been quite happy
>> with the Shindig/Open Social Gadget technology, and we had looked 
forward
>> to a robust
>> implementation cycle, replacing fifteen years of crufty service with a
>> shiny new Gadget-based
>> solution.
>>
>> Sincere thanks to the development team for an excellent job, very sorry 
to
>> hear about it being
>> put into the Attic. There may have been inactivity in the dev side at
>> Apache but we were actively
>> using, and planning to use it for a substantial part of our online 
weather
>> delivery solution.
>>
>> Ichiro
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 7:31 AM, Ryan Baxter  
wrote:
>>
>>> Hi fellow Shindig Devs,
>>>
>>> I would like to let you all know that the Shindig PMC has voted to
>>> terminate the Shindig project and move it to the attic.  I have 
already
>>> informed the Apache board about the termination in this months board
>> report
>>> (below).
>>>
>>> As most of you have probably noticed we have seen a decline in
>>> participation in all aspects of the project over the past months and 
the
>>> downward trend has been happening for over a year now.  This can
>> certainly
>>> be seen in our reports to the board [1].
>>>
>>> If anyone has any questions please let me know, and I will be sure to
>> keep
>>> everyone up to date as we transition the project to the attic.  
Thanks.
>>>
>>> -Ryan
>>>
>>> [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SHINDIG/Board+Reports
>>>
>>> -- Forwarded message -
>>> From: Ryan Baxter 
>>> Date: Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 9:29 PM
>>> Subject: Terminate the Apache Shindig Project
>>> To: bo...@apache.org 
>>> Cc: priv...@shindig.apache.org 
>>>
>>>
>>> WHEREAS, the Project Management Committee of the Apache DirectMemory
>>> project has chosen by vote to recommend moving the project to the
>>>   Attic; and
>>>
>>> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it no longer in the best
>>> interest of the Foundation to continue the Apache Shindig project
>>> due to inactivity;
>>>
>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that the Apache Shindig
>>> project is hereby terminated; and be it further
>>>
>>> RESOLVED, that the Attic PMC be and hereby is tasked with
>>> oversight over the software developed by the Apache Shindig
>>> Project; and be it further
>>>
>>> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Shindig" is
>>> hereby terminated; and be it further
>>>
>>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Shindig PMC is hereby terminated.
>>>

-- 
Ron Wheeler
President
Artifact Software Inc
email: rwhee...@artifact-software.com
skype: ronaldmwheeler
phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102

Re: Terminate the Apache Shindig Project

2015-11-04 Thread Ron Wheeler

Is the inactivity due to absence of bugs and no suggestions for 
enhancements or no interest in fixing bugs or adding missing features?


If an organization still wanted to use it but wanted support, are there 
individuals willing and able to provide support on a commercial basis?


What are the other projects and products that depend on Shindig doing in 
light of the cessation of development?


Ron

On 04/11/2015 9:01 AM, Ryan Baxter wrote:

Ichiro, while the project will move to the attic, it doesn't mean you can't
continue to use it.  If it is stable enough as it is right now for you than
you should be able to continue to use it as is.

On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 5:59 AM Ichiro Furusato 
wrote:


To add just one more voice to the chorus, I'm likewise very sad to hear of
the demise of what
seemed (until this notice) to be a functional and mature project. For the
past nine months I have
advocated replacing the four (!) existing (legacy) aviation and industry
delivery platforms of the
Meteorological Service of New Zealand (MetService) with a Liferay/Shindig
based site. Over the
past year we prototyped a replacement service and are currently awaiting
the next project
funding cycle. Having to go back to our executive management team and tell
them that the
basic architecture of our proposed service is somewhat embarrassing, and we
will likewise now
need to reevaluate and design a new solution. As the lead designer I have
been quite happy
with the Shindig/Open Social Gadget technology, and we had looked forward
to a robust
implementation cycle, replacing fifteen years of crufty service with a
shiny new Gadget-based
solution.

Sincere thanks to the development team for an excellent job, very sorry to
hear about it being
put into the Attic. There may have been inactivity in the dev side at
Apache but we were actively
using, and planning to use it for a substantial part of our online weather
delivery solution.

Ichiro

On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 7:31 AM, Ryan Baxter  wrote:


Hi fellow Shindig Devs,

I would like to let you all know that the Shindig PMC has voted to
terminate the Shindig project and move it to the attic.  I have already
informed the Apache board about the termination in this months board

report

(below).

As most of you have probably noticed we have seen a decline in
participation in all aspects of the project over the past months and the
downward trend has been happening for over a year now.  This can

certainly

be seen in our reports to the board [1].

If anyone has any questions please let me know, and I will be sure to

keep

everyone up to date as we transition the project to the attic.  Thanks.

-Ryan

[1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SHINDIG/Board+Reports

-- Forwarded message -
From: Ryan Baxter 
Date: Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 9:29 PM
Subject: Terminate the Apache Shindig Project
To: bo...@apache.org 
Cc: priv...@shindig.apache.org 


WHEREAS, the Project Management Committee of the Apache DirectMemory
project has chosen by vote to recommend moving the project to the
  Attic; and

WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it no longer in the best
interest of the Foundation to continue the Apache Shindig project
due to inactivity;

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that the Apache Shindig
project is hereby terminated; and be it further

RESOLVED, that the Attic PMC be and hereby is tasked with
oversight over the software developed by the Apache Shindig
Project; and be it further

RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Shindig" is
hereby terminated; and be it further

RESOLVED, that the Apache Shindig PMC is hereby terminated.




--
Ron Wheeler
President
Artifact Software Inc
email: rwhee...@artifact-software.com
skype: ronaldmwheeler
phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102

Re: Terminate the Apache Shindig Project

2015-11-04 Thread Ryan Baxter

Ron, IMO the termination of the project is due to a lack of activity around
fixing bugs, making enhancements, and the termination of the OpenSocial
organization as well.  Most people, including myself, have moved on to
other projects and are no longer actively working in the OpenSocial/gadget
space.

On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 9:28 AM Ron Wheeler 
wrote:

> Is the inactivity due to absence of bugs and no suggestions for
> enhancements or no interest in fixing bugs or adding missing features?
>
> If an organization still wanted to use it but wanted support, are there
> individuals willing and able to provide support on a commercial basis?
>
> What are the other projects and products that depend on Shindig doing in
> light of the cessation of development?
>
> Ron
>
> On 04/11/2015 9:01 AM, Ryan Baxter wrote:
> > Ichiro, while the project will move to the attic, it doesn't mean you
> can't
> > continue to use it.  If it is stable enough as it is right now for you
> than
> > you should be able to continue to use it as is.
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 5:59 AM Ichiro Furusato <
> ichiro.furus...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> To add just one more voice to the chorus, I'm likewise very sad to hear
> of
> >> the demise of what
> >> seemed (until this notice) to be a functional and mature project. For
> the
> >> past nine months I have
> >> advocated replacing the four (!) existing (legacy) aviation and industry
> >> delivery platforms of the
> >> Meteorological Service of New Zealand (MetService) with a
> Liferay/Shindig
> >> based site. Over the
> >> past year we prototyped a replacement service and are currently awaiting
> >> the next project
> >> funding cycle. Having to go back to our executive management team and
> tell
> >> them that the
> >> basic architecture of our proposed service is somewhat embarrassing,
> and we
> >> will likewise now
> >> need to reevaluate and design a new solution. As the lead designer I
> have
> >> been quite happy
> >> with the Shindig/Open Social Gadget technology, and we had looked
> forward
> >> to a robust
> >> implementation cycle, replacing fifteen years of crufty service with a
> >> shiny new Gadget-based
> >> solution.
> >>
> >> Sincere thanks to the development team for an excellent job, very sorry
> to
> >> hear about it being
> >> put into the Attic. There may have been inactivity in the dev side at
> >> Apache but we were actively
> >> using, and planning to use it for a substantial part of our online
> weather
> >> delivery solution.
> >>
> >> Ichiro
> >>
> >> On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 7:31 AM, Ryan Baxter 
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi fellow Shindig Devs,
> >>>
> >>> I would like to let you all know that the Shindig PMC has voted to
> >>> terminate the Shindig project and move it to the attic.  I have already
> >>> informed the Apache board about the termination in this months board
> >> report
> >>> (below).
> >>>
> >>> As most of you have probably noticed we have seen a decline in
> >>> participation in all aspects of the project over the past months and
> the
> >>> downward trend has been happening for over a year now.  This can
> >> certainly
> >>> be seen in our reports to the board [1].
> >>>
> >>> If anyone has any questions please let me know, and I will be sure to
> >> keep
> >>> everyone up to date as we transition the project to the attic.  Thanks.
> >>>
> >>> -Ryan
> >>>
> >>> [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SHINDIG/Board+Reports
> >>>
> >>> -- Forwarded message -
> >>> From: Ryan Baxter 
> >>> Date: Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 9:29 PM
> >>> Subject: Terminate the Apache Shindig Project
> >>> To: bo...@apache.org 
> >>> Cc: priv...@shindig.apache.org 
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> WHEREAS, the Project Management Committee of the Apache DirectMemory
> >>> project has chosen by vote to recommend moving the project to the
> >>>   Attic; and
> >>>
> >>> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it no longer in the best
> >>> interest of the Foundation to continue the Apache Shindig project
> >>> due to inactivity;
> >>>
> >>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that the Apache Shindig
> >>> project is hereby terminated; and be it further
> >>>
> >>> RESOLVED, that the Attic PMC be and hereby is tasked with
> >>> oversight over the software developed by the Apache Shindig
> >>> Project; and be it further
> >>>
> >>> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Shindig" is
> >>> hereby terminated; and be it further
> >>>
> >>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Shindig PMC is hereby terminated.
> >>>
>
>
> --
> Ron Wheeler
> President
> Artifact Software Inc
> email: rwhee...@artifact-software.com
> skype: ronaldmwheeler
> phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102
>
>

Re: Terminate the Apache Shindig Project

2015-11-04 Thread Ryan Baxter

Ichiro, while the project will move to the attic, it doesn't mean you can't
continue to use it.  If it is stable enough as it is right now for you than
you should be able to continue to use it as is.

On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 5:59 AM Ichiro Furusato 
wrote:

> To add just one more voice to the chorus, I'm likewise very sad to hear of
> the demise of what
> seemed (until this notice) to be a functional and mature project. For the
> past nine months I have
> advocated replacing the four (!) existing (legacy) aviation and industry
> delivery platforms of the
> Meteorological Service of New Zealand (MetService) with a Liferay/Shindig
> based site. Over the
> past year we prototyped a replacement service and are currently awaiting
> the next project
> funding cycle. Having to go back to our executive management team and tell
> them that the
> basic architecture of our proposed service is somewhat embarrassing, and we
> will likewise now
> need to reevaluate and design a new solution. As the lead designer I have
> been quite happy
> with the Shindig/Open Social Gadget technology, and we had looked forward
> to a robust
> implementation cycle, replacing fifteen years of crufty service with a
> shiny new Gadget-based
> solution.
>
> Sincere thanks to the development team for an excellent job, very sorry to
> hear about it being
> put into the Attic. There may have been inactivity in the dev side at
> Apache but we were actively
> using, and planning to use it for a substantial part of our online weather
> delivery solution.
>
> Ichiro
>
> On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 7:31 AM, Ryan Baxter  wrote:
>
> > Hi fellow Shindig Devs,
> >
> > I would like to let you all know that the Shindig PMC has voted to
> > terminate the Shindig project and move it to the attic.  I have already
> > informed the Apache board about the termination in this months board
> report
> > (below).
> >
> > As most of you have probably noticed we have seen a decline in
> > participation in all aspects of the project over the past months and the
> > downward trend has been happening for over a year now.  This can
> certainly
> > be seen in our reports to the board [1].
> >
> > If anyone has any questions please let me know, and I will be sure to
> keep
> > everyone up to date as we transition the project to the attic.  Thanks.
> >
> > -Ryan
> >
> > [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SHINDIG/Board+Reports
> >
> > -- Forwarded message -
> > From: Ryan Baxter 
> > Date: Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 9:29 PM
> > Subject: Terminate the Apache Shindig Project
> > To: bo...@apache.org 
> > Cc: priv...@shindig.apache.org 
> >
> >
> > WHEREAS, the Project Management Committee of the Apache DirectMemory
> > project has chosen by vote to recommend moving the project to the
> >  Attic; and
> >
> > WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it no longer in the best
> > interest of the Foundation to continue the Apache Shindig project
> > due to inactivity;
> >
> > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that the Apache Shindig
> > project is hereby terminated; and be it further
> >
> > RESOLVED, that the Attic PMC be and hereby is tasked with
> > oversight over the software developed by the Apache Shindig
> > Project; and be it further
> >
> > RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Shindig" is
> > hereby terminated; and be it further
> >
> > RESOLVED, that the Apache Shindig PMC is hereby terminated.
> >
>

Re: Terminate the Apache Shindig Project

2015-11-04 Thread Ichiro Furusato

To add just one more voice to the chorus, I'm likewise very sad to hear of
the demise of what
seemed (until this notice) to be a functional and mature project. For the
past nine months I have
advocated replacing the four (!) existing (legacy) aviation and industry
delivery platforms of the
Meteorological Service of New Zealand (MetService) with a Liferay/Shindig
based site. Over the
past year we prototyped a replacement service and are currently awaiting
the next project
funding cycle. Having to go back to our executive management team and tell
them that the
basic architecture of our proposed service is somewhat embarrassing, and we
will likewise now
need to reevaluate and design a new solution. As the lead designer I have
been quite happy
with the Shindig/Open Social Gadget technology, and we had looked forward
to a robust
implementation cycle, replacing fifteen years of crufty service with a
shiny new Gadget-based
solution.

Sincere thanks to the development team for an excellent job, very sorry to
hear about it being
put into the Attic. There may have been inactivity in the dev side at
Apache but we were actively
using, and planning to use it for a substantial part of our online weather
delivery solution.

Ichiro

On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 7:31 AM, Ryan Baxter  wrote:

> Hi fellow Shindig Devs,
>
> I would like to let you all know that the Shindig PMC has voted to
> terminate the Shindig project and move it to the attic.  I have already
> informed the Apache board about the termination in this months board report
> (below).
>
> As most of you have probably noticed we have seen a decline in
> participation in all aspects of the project over the past months and the
> downward trend has been happening for over a year now.  This can certainly
> be seen in our reports to the board [1].
>
> If anyone has any questions please let me know, and I will be sure to keep
> everyone up to date as we transition the project to the attic.  Thanks.
>
> -Ryan
>
> [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SHINDIG/Board+Reports
>
> -- Forwarded message -
> From: Ryan Baxter 
> Date: Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 9:29 PM
> Subject: Terminate the Apache Shindig Project
> To: bo...@apache.org 
> Cc: priv...@shindig.apache.org 
>
>
> WHEREAS, the Project Management Committee of the Apache DirectMemory
> project has chosen by vote to recommend moving the project to the
>  Attic; and
>
> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it no longer in the best
> interest of the Foundation to continue the Apache Shindig project
> due to inactivity;
>
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that the Apache Shindig
> project is hereby terminated; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the Attic PMC be and hereby is tasked with
> oversight over the software developed by the Apache Shindig
> Project; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Shindig" is
> hereby terminated; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the Apache Shindig PMC is hereby terminated.
>

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