Re: Review of Neo4j patch

2014-05-28 Thread Ryan Baxter 
Rene see some of the questions I had in the review

https://reviews.apache.org/r/9773/

On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 3:45 AM, René Peinl
 wrote:
> If you can be more specific on what exactly is not well documented enough to 
> be easy to set up, we will surely enhance the documentation in these areas. 
> However, we have already improved it since the last conversation about this 
> issue a few months ago.
>
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: Ryan Baxter [mailto:rbaxte...@gmail.com]
> Gesendet: Freitag, 23. Mai 2014 16:17
> An: dev@shindig.apache.org
> Betreff: Re: Review of Neo4j patch
>
> I echo Stanton's comments.  The last time I tried to use the patch I was 
> still having trouble figuring out how to get everything up and running.  I 
> can try to find some time to take a look again.  Sorry to be so slow on this.
>
> On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 9:04 AM, Stanton Sievers  wrote:
>> Hi René,
>>
>> I'm sorry that this has been your experience.  Please don't interpret
>> the slow-moving process as a lack of appreciation for the work you've
>> done.  It is very much appreciated, I promise you.
>>
>> Given the state of the patch and the conversation on the review, I
>> think we need to just get this committed so that work can continue in
>> smaller, more manageable chunks.
>>
>> For my own part, I'll aim to play around with things over the upcoming
>> long weekend here in the states.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> -Stanton
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 8:28 AM, René Peinl 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Shindig Community,
>>>
>>> I’d like to bring our contribution regarding a proper database
>>> backend for Apache Shindig to your attention.
>>>
>>> As some of you might know, we already posted an initial patch over a
>>> year ago. It turned out, that it was not feasible to include this in
>>> Shindig due to licensing issues that we were not aware of before.
>>>
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SHINDIG-1911
>>>
>>> A few months later we asked via the mailing list, whether you would
>>> be still interested in getting a patch which circumvents these issues
>>> and I received positive feedback from you.
>>>
>>> 4 months ago, we posted a new version of the patch which sorted out
>>> the licensing issues and had some other significant enhancements
>>> regarding multi-threading, multiple concurrent connections and things
>>> like that, that make it ready for larger installations with multiple db 
>>> servers.
>>>
>>> https://reviews.apache.org/r/9773/
>>>
>>> Initially, Ryan Baxter gave us some good hints regarding minor issues
>>> with documentation and installation. We’ve sorted them out, but
>>> during the last three months there were no visible efforts from the
>>> Shindig-side to really bring this patch into the main code. We are
>>> still committed to support and further enhance it, so if there are 
>>> reasonable issues, please let us know.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I’d like to communicate my frustration and disappointment about the
>>> procedure. I don’t know the reasons for the way this issue is handled
>>> and I’m sure you all have important things to do, but I can’t imagine
>>> how any open source project can work that simply ignores
>>> contributions worth several person months of work.
>>>
>>> Please give this patch a fair chance.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> René
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Prof. Dr. René Peinl
>>>
>>> Teaching area: architecture of Web applications
>>>
>>> Hof University
>>>
>>> Alfons-Goppel-Platz 1
>>>
>>> 95028 Hof
>>>
>>> Germany
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Tel:  +49 9281 409-4820
>>>
>>> mailto:  <mailto:rene.pe...@hof-university.de>
>>> rene.pe...@hof-university.de
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>

AW: Review of Neo4j patch

2014-05-26 Thread René Peinl 
If you can be more specific on what exactly is not well documented enough to be 
easy to set up, we will surely enhance the documentation in these areas. 
However, we have already improved it since the last conversation about this 
issue a few months ago.

-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Ryan Baxter [mailto:rbaxte...@gmail.com] 
Gesendet: Freitag, 23. Mai 2014 16:17
An: dev@shindig.apache.org
Betreff: Re: Review of Neo4j patch

I echo Stanton's comments.  The last time I tried to use the patch I was still 
having trouble figuring out how to get everything up and running.  I can try to 
find some time to take a look again.  Sorry to be so slow on this.

On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 9:04 AM, Stanton Sievers  wrote:
> Hi René,
>
> I'm sorry that this has been your experience.  Please don't interpret 
> the slow-moving process as a lack of appreciation for the work you've 
> done.  It is very much appreciated, I promise you.
>
> Given the state of the patch and the conversation on the review, I 
> think we need to just get this committed so that work can continue in 
> smaller, more manageable chunks.
>
> For my own part, I'll aim to play around with things over the upcoming 
> long weekend here in the states.
>
> Thanks,
> -Stanton
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 8:28 AM, René Peinl 
> wrote:
>
>> Dear Shindig Community,
>>
>> I’d like to bring our contribution regarding a proper database 
>> backend for Apache Shindig to your attention.
>>
>> As some of you might know, we already posted an initial patch over a 
>> year ago. It turned out, that it was not feasible to include this in 
>> Shindig due to licensing issues that we were not aware of before.
>>
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SHINDIG-1911
>>
>> A few months later we asked via the mailing list, whether you would 
>> be still interested in getting a patch which circumvents these issues 
>> and I received positive feedback from you.
>>
>> 4 months ago, we posted a new version of the patch which sorted out 
>> the licensing issues and had some other significant enhancements 
>> regarding multi-threading, multiple concurrent connections and things 
>> like that, that make it ready for larger installations with multiple db 
>> servers.
>>
>> https://reviews.apache.org/r/9773/
>>
>> Initially, Ryan Baxter gave us some good hints regarding minor issues 
>> with documentation and installation. We’ve sorted them out, but 
>> during the last three months there were no visible efforts from the 
>> Shindig-side to really bring this patch into the main code. We are 
>> still committed to support and further enhance it, so if there are 
>> reasonable issues, please let us know.
>>
>>
>>
>> I’d like to communicate my frustration and disappointment about the 
>> procedure. I don’t know the reasons for the way this issue is handled 
>> and I’m sure you all have important things to do, but I can’t imagine 
>> how any open source project can work that simply ignores 
>> contributions worth several person months of work.
>>
>> Please give this patch a fair chance.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> René
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Prof. Dr. René Peinl
>>
>> Teaching area: architecture of Web applications
>>
>> Hof University
>>
>> Alfons-Goppel-Platz 1
>>
>> 95028 Hof
>>
>> Germany
>>
>>
>>
>> Tel:  +49 9281 409-4820
>>
>> mailto:  <mailto:rene.pe...@hof-university.de>
>> rene.pe...@hof-university.de
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>

Re: Review of Neo4j patch

2014-05-23 Thread Ryan Baxter 
I echo Stanton's comments.  The last time I tried to use the patch I
was still having trouble figuring out how to get everything up and
running.  I can try to find some time to take a look again.  Sorry to
be so slow on this.

On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 9:04 AM, Stanton Sievers  wrote:
> Hi René,
>
> I'm sorry that this has been your experience.  Please don't interpret the
> slow-moving process as a lack of appreciation for the work you've done.  It
> is very much appreciated, I promise you.
>
> Given the state of the patch and the conversation on the review, I think we
> need to just get this committed so that work can continue in smaller, more
> manageable chunks.
>
> For my own part, I'll aim to play around with things over the upcoming long
> weekend here in the states.
>
> Thanks,
> -Stanton
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 8:28 AM, René Peinl 
> wrote:
>
>> Dear Shindig Community,
>>
>> I’d like to bring our contribution regarding a proper database backend for
>> Apache Shindig to your attention.
>>
>> As some of you might know, we already posted an initial patch over a year
>> ago. It turned out, that it was not feasible to include this in Shindig due
>> to licensing issues that we were not aware of before.
>>
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SHINDIG-1911
>>
>> A few months later we asked via the mailing list, whether you would be
>> still
>> interested in getting a patch which circumvents these issues and I received
>> positive feedback from you.
>>
>> 4 months ago, we posted a new version of the patch which sorted out the
>> licensing issues and had some other significant enhancements regarding
>> multi-threading, multiple concurrent connections and things like that, that
>> make it ready for larger installations with multiple db servers.
>>
>> https://reviews.apache.org/r/9773/
>>
>> Initially, Ryan Baxter gave us some good hints regarding minor issues with
>> documentation and installation. We’ve sorted them out, but during the last
>> three months there were no visible efforts from the Shindig-side to really
>> bring this patch into the main code. We are still committed to support and
>> further enhance it, so if there are reasonable issues, please let us know.
>>
>>
>>
>> I’d like to communicate my frustration and disappointment about the
>> procedure. I don’t know the reasons for the way this issue is handled and
>> I’m sure you all have important things to do, but I can’t imagine how any
>> open source project can work that simply ignores contributions worth
>> several
>> person months of work.
>>
>> Please give this patch a fair chance.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> René
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Prof. Dr. René Peinl
>>
>> Teaching area: architecture of Web applications
>>
>> Hof University
>>
>> Alfons-Goppel-Platz 1
>>
>> 95028 Hof
>>
>> Germany
>>
>>
>>
>> Tel:  +49 9281 409-4820
>>
>> mailto:  
>> rene.pe...@hof-university.de
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>

Re: Review of Neo4j patch

2014-05-21 Thread Stanton Sievers 
Hi René,

I'm sorry that this has been your experience.  Please don't interpret the
slow-moving process as a lack of appreciation for the work you've done.  It
is very much appreciated, I promise you.

Given the state of the patch and the conversation on the review, I think we
need to just get this committed so that work can continue in smaller, more
manageable chunks.

For my own part, I'll aim to play around with things over the upcoming long
weekend here in the states.

Thanks,
-Stanton



On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 8:28 AM, René Peinl wrote:

> Dear Shindig Community,
>
> I’d like to bring our contribution regarding a proper database backend for
> Apache Shindig to your attention.
>
> As some of you might know, we already posted an initial patch over a year
> ago. It turned out, that it was not feasible to include this in Shindig due
> to licensing issues that we were not aware of before.
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SHINDIG-1911
>
> A few months later we asked via the mailing list, whether you would be
> still
> interested in getting a patch which circumvents these issues and I received
> positive feedback from you.
>
> 4 months ago, we posted a new version of the patch which sorted out the
> licensing issues and had some other significant enhancements regarding
> multi-threading, multiple concurrent connections and things like that, that
> make it ready for larger installations with multiple db servers.
>
> https://reviews.apache.org/r/9773/
>
> Initially, Ryan Baxter gave us some good hints regarding minor issues with
> documentation and installation. We’ve sorted them out, but during the last
> three months there were no visible efforts from the Shindig-side to really
> bring this patch into the main code. We are still committed to support and
> further enhance it, so if there are reasonable issues, please let us know.
>
>
>
> I’d like to communicate my frustration and disappointment about the
> procedure. I don’t know the reasons for the way this issue is handled and
> I’m sure you all have important things to do, but I can’t imagine how any
> open source project can work that simply ignores contributions worth
> several
> person months of work.
>
> Please give this patch a fair chance.
>
> Regards
>
> René
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Prof. Dr. René Peinl
>
> Teaching area: architecture of Web applications
>
> Hof University
>
> Alfons-Goppel-Platz 1
>
> 95028 Hof
>
> Germany
>
>
>
> Tel:  +49 9281 409-4820
>
> mailto:  
> rene.pe...@hof-university.de
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Review of Neo4j patch

2014-05-21 Thread René Peinl 
Dear Shindig Community,

I’d like to bring our contribution regarding a proper database backend for
Apache Shindig to your attention.

As some of you might know, we already posted an initial patch over a year
ago. It turned out, that it was not feasible to include this in Shindig due
to licensing issues that we were not aware of before. 

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SHINDIG-1911 

A few months later we asked via the mailing list, whether you would be still
interested in getting a patch which circumvents these issues and I received
positive feedback from you.

4 months ago, we posted a new version of the patch which sorted out the
licensing issues and had some other significant enhancements regarding
multi-threading, multiple concurrent connections and things like that, that
make it ready for larger installations with multiple db servers. 

https://reviews.apache.org/r/9773/

Initially, Ryan Baxter gave us some good hints regarding minor issues with
documentation and installation. We’ve sorted them out, but during the last
three months there were no visible efforts from the Shindig-side to really
bring this patch into the main code. We are still committed to support and
further enhance it, so if there are reasonable issues, please let us know. 

 

I’d like to communicate my frustration and disappointment about the
procedure. I don’t know the reasons for the way this issue is handled and
I’m sure you all have important things to do, but I can’t imagine how any
open source project can work that simply ignores contributions worth several
person months of work. 

Please give this patch a fair chance. 

Regards

René 

 

 

 

Prof. Dr. René Peinl

Teaching area: architecture of Web applications

Hof University

Alfons-Goppel-Platz 1

95028 Hof

Germany

 

Tel:  +49 9281 409-4820

mailto:   rene.pe...@hof-university.de