Re: Labeling Jiras

2016-05-26 Thread Steve Loughran

> On 25 May 2016, at 23:08, Sean Owen  wrote:
> 
> Yeah I think using labels is fine -- just not if they're for someone's
> internal purpose. I don't have a problem with using meaningful labels
> if they're meaningful to everyone. In fact, I'd rather be using labels
> rather than "umbrella" JIRAs.
> 
> Labels I have removed as unuseful are ones like "patch" or "important"
> or "bug". "big-endian" sounds useful. The only downside is that,
> inevitably, a label won't be consistently applied. But such is life.
> 

labels are good in JIRA for things that span components, even transient tagging 
for events like "hackathon". Don't scale to personal/team use in the ASF; 
that's what google spreadsheets are better for

Now, what would be nice there would be for some spreadsheet plugin to pull JIRA 
status into a spreadsheet

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Re: Labeling Jiras

2016-05-25 Thread Luciano Resende
On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 3:45 PM, Reynold Xin  wrote:

> I think the risk is everybody starts following this, then this will be
> unmanageable, given the size of the number of organizations involved.
>
> The two main labels that we actually use are starter + releasenotes.
>
>
Well, if we consider the worst case scenario, and we have a jira, let's say
with a few labels, what harm does it make ?


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Re: Labeling Jiras

2016-05-25 Thread Reynold Xin
I think the risk is everybody starts following this, then this will be
unmanageable, given the size of the number of organizations involved.

The two main labels that we actually use are starter + releasenotes.

On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 2:58 PM, Luciano Resende 
wrote:

>
>
> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 2:33 PM, Sean Owen  wrote:
>
>> I don't think we generally use labels at all except "starter". I
>> sometimes remove labels when I'm editing a JIRA otherwise, perhaps to
>> make that point. I don't recall doing this recently.
>>
>
> We have used for other things in the past, like to identify the big-endian
> related issues
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-15154?jql=labels%20%3D%20big-endian
>
>
>> However I'd say they should not be used to tag JIRAs for your internal
>> purposes. Have you looked at things like JIRA Client from Almworks?
>> It's free and I highly recommend it, and IIRC it lets you manage some
>> private labels locally.
>>
>>
> The issue with maintaining anything locally is that then it's not easily
> sharable (e.g. I can't just send a link to a query)
>
>
>
> The question is more like, what issues can be caused by using labels ?
>
>
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> http://lresende.blogspot.com/
>


Re: Labeling Jiras

2016-05-25 Thread Sean Owen
Yeah I think using labels is fine -- just not if they're for someone's
internal purpose. I don't have a problem with using meaningful labels
if they're meaningful to everyone. In fact, I'd rather be using labels
rather than "umbrella" JIRAs.

Labels I have removed as unuseful are ones like "patch" or "important"
or "bug". "big-endian" sounds useful. The only downside is that,
inevitably, a label won't be consistently applied. But such is life.

On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 4:58 PM, Luciano Resende  wrote:
>
>
> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 2:33 PM, Sean Owen  wrote:
>>
>> I don't think we generally use labels at all except "starter". I
>> sometimes remove labels when I'm editing a JIRA otherwise, perhaps to
>> make that point. I don't recall doing this recently.
>
>
> We have used for other things in the past, like to identify the big-endian
> related issues
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-15154?jql=labels%20%3D%20big-endian
>
>>
>> However I'd say they should not be used to tag JIRAs for your internal
>> purposes. Have you looked at things like JIRA Client from Almworks?
>> It's free and I highly recommend it, and IIRC it lets you manage some
>> private labels locally.
>>
>
> The issue with maintaining anything locally is that then it's not easily
> sharable (e.g. I can't just send a link to a query)
>
>
>
> The question is more like, what issues can be caused by using labels ?
>
>
> --
> Luciano Resende
> http://twitter.com/lresende1975
> http://lresende.blogspot.com/

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Re: Labeling Jiras

2016-05-25 Thread Luciano Resende
On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 2:33 PM, Sean Owen  wrote:

> I don't think we generally use labels at all except "starter". I
> sometimes remove labels when I'm editing a JIRA otherwise, perhaps to
> make that point. I don't recall doing this recently.
>

We have used for other things in the past, like to identify the big-endian
related issues
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-15154?jql=labels%20%3D%20big-endian


> However I'd say they should not be used to tag JIRAs for your internal
> purposes. Have you looked at things like JIRA Client from Almworks?
> It's free and I highly recommend it, and IIRC it lets you manage some
> private labels locally.
>
>
The issue with maintaining anything locally is that then it's not easily
sharable (e.g. I can't just send a link to a query)



The question is more like, what issues can be caused by using labels ?


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http://twitter.com/lresende1975
http://lresende.blogspot.com/


Re: Labeling Jiras

2016-05-25 Thread Sean Owen
I don't think we generally use labels at all except "starter". I
sometimes remove labels when I'm editing a JIRA otherwise, perhaps to
make that point. I don't recall doing this recently.

However I'd say they should not be used to tag JIRAs for your internal
purposes. Have you looked at things like JIRA Client from Almworks?
It's free and I highly recommend it, and IIRC it lets you manage some
private labels locally.

On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 3:48 PM, Luciano Resende <luckbr1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I recently used labels to mark couple jiras that me and my team have some
> interest on them, so it's easier to share a query and check the status on
> them. But I noticed that these labels were removed.
>
> Are there any issues with labeling jiras ? Any other suggestions ?
>
>
>
> --
> Luciano Resende
> http://twitter.com/lresende1975
> http://lresende.blogspot.com/

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Labeling Jiras

2016-05-25 Thread Luciano Resende
I recently used labels to mark couple jiras that me and my team have some
interest on them, so it's easier to share a query and check the status on
them. But I noticed that these labels were removed.

Are there any issues with labeling jiras ? Any other suggestions ?



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Luciano Resende
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