Re: [VOTE] Release Struts 2 Maven Archetypes v2.1.8.1

2010-01-18 Thread Lukasz Lenart
2010/1/17 Martin Cooper mart...@apache.org:
 Where are we on this? Lukasz, are you going to be able to kick off a
 new vote after we have all of the proper artifacts in place?

In middle of nowhere :P

I've been thinking to cancel that vote, move archetypes into
struts2/trunk and make a new release of Struts 2 with Xwork core also.
Can be?


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Re: [jira] Commented: (WW-2754) Source code for GXP result

2010-01-18 Thread Lukasz Lenart
2010/1/15 Musachy Barroso musa...@gmail.com:
 incubator all the way

Ok than, how to do that? Any link to docs will be appreciated!


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Re: [jira] Commented: (WW-2754) Source code for GXP result

2010-01-18 Thread Musachy Barroso
sorry, didn't mean incubator but sandbox.

On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 7:14 AM, Lukasz Lenart
lukasz.len...@googlemail.com wrote:
 2010/1/15 Musachy Barroso musa...@gmail.com:
 incubator all the way

 Ok than, how to do that? Any link to docs will be appreciated!


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Re: [VOTE] Release Struts 2 Maven Archetypes v2.1.8.1

2010-01-18 Thread Musachy Barroso
I think I have seen some arguments of why the archetypes should be
outside the s2 trunk, but I can really remember why. As to getting a
s2 release with xwork, we might still be a bit far from that.

musachy

On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 6:38 AM, Lukasz Lenart
lukasz.len...@googlemail.com wrote:
 2010/1/17 Martin Cooper mart...@apache.org:
 Where are we on this? Lukasz, are you going to be able to kick off a
 new vote after we have all of the proper artifacts in place?

 In middle of nowhere :P

 I've been thinking to cancel that vote, move archetypes into
 struts2/trunk and make a new release of Struts 2 with Xwork core also.
 Can be?


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Re: XWork has landed!

2010-01-18 Thread Musachy Barroso
Martin does this sound good to you? I think going with just core is a
safe option.

musachy

//when is gmail going to realize that no...I meant musachy not mustache :)

On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 11:09 AM, Wes Wannemacher w...@wantii.com wrote:
 The xwork module are core, plugins and showcase. It was only recently
 that xwork was broken up and I think it was meant to make things more
 manageable. Personally, my vote is for #2 as well. If we need to make
 xwork-specific plugins or continue building the xwork showcase, then
 we can move those over to the apps and plugins struts2 modules.
 Struts2 depends on xwork-core, so I think we start with that one and
 bring plugins and showcase over if the need dictates.

 -Wes

 /summary - (b)

 On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 1:47 PM, Musachy Barroso musa...@gmail.com wrote:
 Well, I would like to hear from Rene or Rainer about #2

 2) (a) all of XWork, (b) just the XWork core, (c) some other subset of 
 XWork

 To be honest I don't even know what the other stuff is(I vaguely
 remember something about plugins for xwork), I think we should go with
 b) just core.

 On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 10:34 AM, Martin Cooper mart...@apache.org wrote:
 On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Musachy Barroso musa...@gmail.com wrote:
 we are all now in the same page right? (meaning we agree to move xwork
 under http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/struts/struts2/trunk/)

 We don't have an answer to #2 yet (I saw opinions for both a and b),
 but we have answers to #1 and #3, so we're close. ;-)

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 musachy

 On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 12:51 AM, Musachy Barroso musa...@gmail.com wrote:
 yes I meant under struts2, sorry for the confusion

 On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 5:22 PM, Martin Cooper mart...@apache.org wrote:
 On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 4:20 PM, Musachy Barroso musa...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 What we have been talking about and (vaguely) mentioned before is to
 move it under /struts/trunk/xwork

 Unless I'm mistaken, that is _not_ where you want to move it. You want
 it under 'struts2', don't you?

 Today it is here:

 http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/struts/xwork/trunk/

 and S2 is here:

 http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/struts/struts2/trunk/

 Since there is no 'struts/trunk', what you said above is unlikely to
 be what you actually mean. This is why I'm trying to get an accurate
 specification of what you *really* want. How can we agree if you're
 not accurately stating what you want / plan to do?

 and make it a module just like core
 is, so the release is coupled to the struts release and everything can
 be built easily

 Great. I have no problem with that. Now, why is 1a better than 1c, for
 example? And what is the answer to 2? Neither of these are answered by
 the statement that you want to be able to build easily.

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 Martin Cooper


 musahcy

 On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 3:56 PM, Martin Cooper mart...@apache.org 
 wrote:
 On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 11:54 AM, Musachy Barroso musa...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 just to close this, is anyone opposed to moving xwork under the struts
 dir as a maven module?

 Uh, it's already under the 'struts' dir as a Maven project.

 In the context of the options I listed before, you appear to want:

 1) (a), although I'm interested in the advantages of this over (b) or
 especially (c).
 2) Unspecified, since you're referring to 'xwork' but not defining
 which of the options this is.
 3) Unclear. Maybe (b)?

 I'm not trying to be a pain, but I'm not seeing a clearly stated
 proposal and an explanation of why it's the right way to go.

 --
 Martin Cooper


 On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 3:53 AM, Lukasz Lenart
 lukasz.len...@googlemail.com wrote:
 2010/1/6 Musachy Barroso musa...@gmail.com:
 Really? I haven't seen much discussion since I posted what I 
 believe
 is the set of alternatives that we need to choose from. I saw 
 quite a
 few different opinions expressed, almost all in different terms 
 (which
 is why I posted what I did), but I'm not sure I saw a consensus
 emerge.

 I'm not so good in Maven but I'm for anything that will simplify
 release process (XWork will be released with Struts2 together) and
 allow me to work with XWork and see at the same time what will happen
 with Struts2 code base (eg. launching tests in IDEA).


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Re: [VOTE] Release Struts 2 Maven Archetypes v2.1.8.1

2010-01-18 Thread Wes Wannemacher
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Wendy Smoak wsm...@gmail.com wrote:

 (In the future the archetypes could be released together, it just puts
 an additional burden on the RM to deal with extra artifacts and the
 devs to test them in addition to the rest of the release.  I would not
 hold these up waiting for a struts-with-xwork release.)


I agree with Wendy on both points here, but I will add that this is
something that has a tendency to generate complaints. I, for one, am
guilty of pushing out a traditional release and then forgetting about
the archetypes I think this is part of why Lukasz is where he is
at right now (sorry, buddy!). IMO, the argument of the testing being
more difficult is somewhat debatable, because if the main artifacts
are releasable quality, then it should be right around the corner that
the active testers will then need to test the archetypes.

So, to summarize, I say go with Wendy's suggestion to just start a new
vote with the sigs attached, then we'll discuss how we proceed (struts
2.1.9 w/o xwork or struts 2.2.0 with xwork as our own artifact).

-Wes



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Re: [jira] Commented: (WW-2754) Source code for GXP result

2010-01-18 Thread Lukasz Lenart
2010/1/18 Musachy Barroso musa...@gmail.com:
 sorry, didn't mean incubator but sandbox.

Ok, that changes lot ;-)


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