On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 2:51 PM, Christian Grobmeier
wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> today fluido 1.0 came out.
>
> Here is my first draft (similar to Maurizios):
>
> http://code.grobmeier.de/struts-draft-v1/
> (just one page)
>
> I have added a hero section.
A what?
> Unfortunately I needed to remove the h2, h3 etc to make this work
> because of a doxia bug. It seems it is already fixed in trunk, so I
> think we can leave it now and replace it later. (the bug replaces h2
> with ... - this kills everything)
I'd say the missing h2, h3, et al, is a showstopper.
> I think we should make the text somehow smaller if possible. It is
> very much too read and probably we should just have a teaser on the
> the various paragraphs.
I disagree. The Recent Releases section needs to come back to the top,
where it is prominent for the majority of existing users, who are
returning for the latest update. The remainder of the page is designed
for those new to Struts, and there needs to be enough meat right there
on the home page to hold their interest and entice them to stay on the
site, rather than just provide a bunch of links and hope they'll click
on one.
> In addtion, we should use some kind of "news format". Like:
>
> 10.12.2001
> Struts 2.2.3.1 released
> This release contains a security fix.
> See: Release Note
>
> And so on. I mean: date, short headline, short content (just one
> sentence) and the link to the release notes.
For releases, that's exactly what Recent Releases is for, and that's
why it should be at the top. Other announcements are on the
Announcements page, linked from the menu.
> So - what do you think abou it?
I see some significant issues with the sample home page:
* The dark menu bar thing at the top wraps in a weird way, and starts
to cover up the logos, which looks really bad. (And it's not obvious
that it's a wrapping issue unless you have enough real estate to
resize and avoid the wrap.) There are also weird garbage artifacts
when you work with this menu bar. Given that it provides no additional
functionality, is very ugly, and doesn't work well, I'd recommend
scrapping it.
* There's a huge waste of space with just "Apache Struts" in a big
font, one sentence, and two buttons. Given that this is right below
both the ASF logo, at top left, and the Struts logo, at top right,
this serves no function and just takes up space - and prime real
estate, at that - and forces everyone to scroll to get to anything
useful.
* The column width does not increase as I resize my browser window.
Yet I'm forced to resize the window to get the menu to render
properly.
* We need proper headings (as mentioned above) rather than the random
first words in a section in a big bold font. Section titles are chosen
for meaning.
* The release information at the bottom is in a super-narrow column
for no apparent reason, again forcing me to scroll unnecessarily.
* The Next link, leading to the sequence running through our pages, is
missing completely.
* Visited links are not coloured differently from unvisited ones.
Overall, it looks pretty and trendy, but actual usability has gone
down the tubes and is pretty awful. I'd personally prefer to see us
stick with what we have unless the usability can be brought back to at
least what we have now. Usability is far more important than pretty or
trendy.
--
Martin Cooper
> Cheers
> Christian
>
> On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 6:43 PM, Maurizio Cucchiara
> wrote:
>> Just for the record looks like Simone has already moved out of the
>> sandbox the plugin
>>
>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/skins/trunk/maven-fluido-skin/
>>
>> Anyway I would like to see a kind of refresh on struts website, you
>> can count on my help.
>>
>> Twitter :http://www.twitter.com/m_cucchiara
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>> Linkedin :http://www.linkedin.com/in/mauriziocucchiara
>>
>> Maurizio Cucchiara
>>
>>
>>
>> On 16 November 2011 17:47, Maurizio Cucchiara wrote:
>>> Hi Christian,
>>> I have done some tests a couple of weeks ago, IIRC there was some
>>> issue using the fluido plugin.
>>> For what concern the website, consider that struts website root
>>> resides, as you noticed before, belong the following path
>>> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/struts/site/
>>>
>>> Here there is the S2 website (nothing more than a single page :) )
>>> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/struts/struts2/trunk/src/site/
>>>
>>> And the third one, is used by the Confluence export plugin (I'm pretty
>>> sure, though I could be wrong)
>>>
>>> With that saying, I published the fluido verson of struts website
>>> http://people.apache.org/~mcucchiara/struts/www/
>>> Let's see the first impressions (for example I just realized that
>>> fluido doesn't provide the links to S1, S2 on top bar).
>>>
>>> Twitter :http://www.twitter.com/m_cucchiara
>>> G+ :https://plus.google.com/107903711540963855921
>>> Linkedin :http://www.linkedin.com/in/mauriziocucchiara
>>>
>>> Maurizio
