Re: [dev] [dvtm] Fibonacci layout patch
I've been using dvtm at work a lot recently so I figured I'd port the Fibonacci spiral/dwindle layouts to dvtm. This patch is for 0.5.2. I find it's not as useful as the Fibonacci layouts in dwm but I figure why not release it anyway. -Niki Yoshiuchi Do these layouts provide any benefits? I found them rather useless actually, even in dwm... What do you use them for, and in what way do you use them if you don't mind sharing your experience?
Re: [dev] [dvtm] Fibonacci layout patch
On Tue, Jun 01, 2010 at 01:27:07PM +0200, Mate Nagy wrote: Using the vim splits may be cheating, but it sure is convenient. sorry for self-reply: I thought that maybe for maximum punishment, the fibonacci layout could support nmaster. (Also note that this is a 2560x1600 setup, that's why so much division (and nmaster) makes sense.) Mate
Re: [dev] [dvtm] Fibonacci layout patch
[2010-06-01 13:34] Mate Nagy mn...@port70.net On Tue, Jun 01, 2010 at 01:27:07PM +0200, Mate Nagy wrote: Using the vim splits may be cheating, but it sure is convenient. sorry for self-reply: I thought that maybe for maximum punishment, the fibonacci layout could support nmaster. (Also note that this is a 2560x1600 setup, that's why so much division (and nmaster) makes sense.) Thanks for your self-reply, I just wanted to ask what screen resolution you have. meillo
Re: [dev] Tiling windowmanager workflow (Was: [dvtm] Fibonacci layout patch)
On Tue, Jun 01, 2010 at 01:56:28PM +0200, Moritz Wilhelmy wrote:
Actually tiling doesn't even make much sense on it, when I went with monocle
on
the netbook I grew used to it and use it everywhere now.
Anyone else interested in sharing their way how they use their System? It
seems
like an interesting topic.
I use mainly monocle mode also. I have 12 tags (1..12, mapped to F{1..12}) and I
hardly ever run more than 12 apps at once. I am hardcore minimalist and I tend
to throw away everything what is not needed. Also, since I understood suckless
motion, I replace many apps for less-sucking alternatives. Like Geeqie-qiv,
Thunar-xterm, openoffice-google docs, and so on.. Few months ago I set my
$HOME as read only and removed dotfiles and dotdirs what I didn't create myself
or explicitly want. Many apps showed their true nature.
Summary: Since I accepted suckless approach, my zen level has increased.
Re: [dev] Tiling windowmanager workflow (Was: [dvtm] Fibonacci layout patch)
On 1 Jun 2010, at 12:56, Moritz Wilhelmy wrote: On Tue, Jun 01, 2010 at 01:27:07PM +0200, Mate Nagy wrote: Using the vim splits may be cheating, but it sure is convenient. sorry for self-reply: I thought that maybe for maximum punishment, the fibonacci layout could support nmaster. (Also note that this is a 2560x1600 setup, that's why so much division (and nmaster) makes sense.) Ah, guess it's just my 1280x1024 screen then :) Actually tiling doesn't even make much sense on it, when I went with monocle on the netbook I grew used to it and use it everywhere now. Anyone else interested in sharing their way how they use their System? It seems like an interesting topic. I've been fighting with window managers all my computing life, not counting the 8-bit machines. I've tried a variety of semi-fixed layouts in FVWM, but really, whether you like tiled or floating or some strange hybrid, multi-window systems only work if you have a big enough screen. At one point I was using WindowMaker while I liked the dock clip, I set it to automatically full-screen-maximise every (non-transient) window. I eventually got a 1600x1200 monitor and said to myself (out loud, I think) Oh THAT'S how window systems are supposed to work! My Windows-using nephews maximise everything, or if they're using something which doesn't belong maximised and they have to look at it for more than a few seconds they minimise everything else. Basically they get a monocle view too. They have 1280x1024 screens, one per computer. Apple OS X is curious. Maximisation is poor, but applications are meant to have small windows which the window system neatly cascades. There is a hide function which is kinda half-useful; it hides all the windows of an application but it would be better if windows could be grouped by project and hidden that way. I still somehow prefer it to virtual desktops... TL;DR Summarising years of experience^Wfrustration: * Window systems are pointless without very large screens. * OS X (really NextStep) tries hard to work with smaller screens but is still clunky. -- Do not specify what the computer should do for you, ask what the computer can do for you.
Re: [dev] Tiling windowmanager workflow (Was: [dvtm] Fibonacci layout patch)
On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 12:56 PM, Moritz Wilhelmy c...@wzff.de wrote: On Tue, Jun 01, 2010 at 01:27:07PM +0200, Mate Nagy wrote: Using the vim splits may be cheating, but it sure is convenient. sorry for self-reply: I thought that maybe for maximum punishment, the fibonacci layout could support nmaster. (Also note that this is a 2560x1600 setup, that's why so much division (and nmaster) makes sense.) Ah, guess it's just my 1280x1024 screen then :) Actually tiling doesn't even make much sense on it, when I went with monocle on the netbook I grew used to it and use it everywhere now. Anyone else interested in sharing their way how they use their System? It seems like an interesting topic. The typical usage where I have more than one window is that I have maybe 2 windows providing a view on an editor open (eg, for showing a .h and .cpp file, or two .cpp files when I'm trying to track down an inconsistency in usage), an xterm for running the program being developed and one xterm holding gnuplot and one gnuplot window (or looking at accuracy plots (I tend to work on machine learning stuff where you do that a lot). So it's all associated with one human level task, but it's using multiple computer applications. Likewise there are other situations, but they all tend to fall into that category: I don't tend to have separate human tasks on screen at the same time very much. -- cheers, dave tweed__ computer vision reasearcher: david.tw...@gmail.com while having code so boring anyone can maintain it, use Python. -- attempted insult seen on slashdot
Re: [dev] [dvtm] Fibonacci layout patch
The biggest benefit I've found has simply been that the second client remains the same size regardless of how many clients you have open. That said, I am generally using dwm on a netbook so I rarely have more than 2 or 3 clients open on a single tag. On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 7:18 AM, c...@wzff.de wrote: I've been using dvtm at work a lot recently so I figured I'd port the Fibonacci spiral/dwindle layouts to dvtm. This patch is for 0.5.2. I find it's not as useful as the Fibonacci layouts in dwm but I figure why not release it anyway. -Niki Yoshiuchi Do these layouts provide any benefits? I found them rather useless actually, even in dwm... What do you use them for, and in what way do you use them if you don't mind sharing your experience?
Re: [dev] Tiling windowmanager workflow (Was: [dvtm] Fibonacci layout patch)
On 1 Jun 2010, at 14:01, Martin Kopta wrote: Few months ago I set my $HOME as read only and removed dotfiles and dotdirs what I didn't create myself or explicitly want. Oh! This is something I should have done many years ago. I wish I'd thought of it. I've lost good data because there were too many .dirs to sort through. -- Do not specify what the computer should do for you, ask what the computer can do for you.
Re: [dev] Tiling windowmanager workflow (Was: [dvtm] Fibonacci layout patch)
On 13:56 Tue 01 Jun, Moritz Wilhelmy wrote:
On Tue, Jun 01, 2010 at 01:27:07PM +0200, Mate Nagy wrote:
Using the vim splits may be cheating, but it sure is convenient.
sorry for self-reply: I thought that maybe for maximum punishment, the
fibonacci layout could support nmaster. (Also note that this is a
2560x1600 setup, that's why so much division (and nmaster) makes sense.)
Ah, guess it's just my 1280x1024 screen then :)
Actually tiling doesn't even make much sense on it, when I went with monocle on
the netbook I grew used to it and use it everywhere now.
Anyone else interested in sharing their way how they use their System? It seems
like an interesting topic.
I use a laptop (1200x800) at home and my work computer (1920x1200). I
use dwm-5.2 with the gridmode patch. The gridmode patch allows me to
use equal sized windows.
I use five tags. On my work computer:
main - two terms named term1
term - two terms named term2
www - two browsers
ooo - one term named term4 and gnumeric
mail - two terms named mail (mutt and weechat)
On my laptop:
main - one term named term1
term - one term named term2
www - one browser
ooo - nothing. I only use gnumeric for work
mail - one term
On my work computer I use tag main and pull in what is needed. I found
pressing mod4+1, mod4+ctrl+2 to be annoying. I first used xmodmap to
switch mod4 and mod1. This allows me to press the keys on either side
of the spacebar with my thumb. Second, I used yiyus suggestion from
awhile back[1] on how to pull in two tags with one key (ie mod4+q could
switch to tag1 and tag2). Here is his code from my config.h:
#define WORKSPACE(KEY,TAG) \
{ MODKEY, KEY, view, {.ui = TAG} },
.
.
.
WORKSPACE( XK_q, 1 0 | 1 1)
WORKSPACE( XK_w, 1 0 | 1 2)
WORKSPACE( XK_e, 1 1 | 1 2)
I use q,w,e,r,t to combine main+term, main+www, term+www, ooo+www and
main+mail.
On my laptop I have the option of using mod4+q,w,e,r,t or
mod4+,1,2,3,4,5.
-steve
[1] http://lists.suckless.org/dwm/0808/6573.html
Re: [dev] Tiling windowmanager workflow (Was: [dvtm] Fibonacci layout patch)
While we're on macros, I use the following macro for each tag,
so I can spawn an xterm wherever I want, in what mode I want,
just by setting its class, e.g.
$ xterm -class XTerm4f
spawns a floating xterm on tag 4 (1-based indexing)
#define TAG(i) (1 (i-1))
#define XTERM(n) \
{ XTerm#n , NULL, NULL, TAG(n), False, -1 }, \
{ XTerm#nf , NULL, NULL, TAG(n), True, -1 }
/* meanwhile, in tag rules... */
XTERM(1),
XTERM(2),
...
It's been really useful for things like surf, where I can easily spawn
all the download-handling xterms on an unused tag and deal with
them later without having to recompile dwm with a new tag entry.
Course I have to bodge my .Xdefaults a bit to keep them obeying
whatever rules I want. I don't know whether it's valid or not,
but just having all lowercase xterm works:
xterm*background: black
s/xterm/urxvt too
Cheers, Rob
[dev] Re: [wmii]clarifications on python script usage
Hi Kris Thanks for the wmiirc_local.py example. I used it as a base for mine. I'm having some troubles to figure out the mixer plugin. I thought I would try to write an equivalent myself before asking, but I can't, I'm getting headaches. Would you mind posting yours? Pascal
Re: [dev] Re: [wmii]clarifications on python script usage
On Tue, Jun 01, 2010 at 10:11:59PM +0200, pascal wrote:
Thanks for the wmiirc_local.py example. I used it as a base for
mine. I'm having some troubles to figure out the mixer
plugin. I thought I would try to write an equivalent myself
before asking, but I can't, I'm getting headaches. Would you
mind posting yours?
Sure, if you really want it. The alsamixer module isn't mine,
though, and it'd buggy. The only reason I use it is that some
programs change the PCM mixer value and you can't access it via
OSD.
The Linux version is attached.
--
Kris Maglione
I'm confident that tomorrow's Unix will look like today's Unix, only
cruftier.
--Russ Cox
import fcntl
from pyxp.fields import Int
SOUND_MIXER_READ_DEVMASK = 0x80044DFE
MIXER_READ = 0x80044D00
MIXER_WRITE = 0xC0044D00
mod = 0
mixers = ('vol', 'bass', 'treble', 'synth', 'pcm', 'speaker',
'line', 'mic', 'cd', 'mix', 'pcm2', 'rec', 'igain',
'ogain', 'line1', 'line2', 'line3', 'dig1', 'dig2',
'dig3', 'phin', 'phout', 'video', 'radio', 'monitor')
mixerfd = open('/dev/mixer')
res = fcntl.ioctl(mixerfd, SOUND_MIXER_READ_DEVMASK, '')
mask = Int(4).decode(res, 0)
def findmixer(name):
for i, mixer in enumerate(mixers):
if (1 i) mask and mixer == name:
return i
def getlevel(name):
mixer = findmixer(name);
res = fcntl.ioctl(mixerfd, MIXER_READ + mixer, ' ')
return (ord(res[0]) + ord(res[1])) / 2
def setlevel(name, level):
mixer = findmixer(name);
fcntl.ioctl(mixerfd, MIXER_WRITE + mixer,
chr(level 0x7f) * 2 + '\0\0')
# vim:se sts=4 sw=4 et:
Re: [dev] surf 0.4 tries to free an invalid pointer
Pierre Chapuis catw...@archlinux.us writes: I installed surf 0.4 on Arch Linux and it crashed when I tried to click on a link to a binary file (actually to its own archive on suckless' website). Downloading with the right click menu works fine. I have copied its output below. The crash looks linked to Java. Most likely, the Java plugin cannot unload properly. I have registered several similar crashes with the Flash plugin (in fact, there are many serious problems with surf not shutting things down properly, but I'm not sure how they could be fixed). -- \ Troels /\ Henriksen
Re: [dev] surf 0.4 tries to free an invalid pointer
On Tue, Jun 01, 2010 at 10:56:34PM +0200, Pierre Chapuis wrote: I installed surf 0.4 on Arch Linux and it crashed when I tried to click on a link to a binary file (actually to its own archive on suckless' website). Downloading with the right click menu works fine. I have copied its output below. The crash looks linked to Java. Try running it under valgrind. -- Kris Maglione An organisation that treats its programmers as morons will soon have programmers that are willing and able to act like morons only. --Bjarne Stroustrup
