Re: [dev] terminal that accepts any size
Sorry, it's a different and incompatible concept. There is no need for less any more (Toggle scrolling with middle-click scroll). If you need vi it's the wrong way. But since you got that far you could also try acme and sam as an alternative :P On 3/23/10, Lorenzo Bolla lbo...@gmail.com wrote: I gave 9term a quick try, but I couldn't get neither vim nor less work properly with it (they both complain about 9term being an unknown terminal). Is any of you guys using 9term with either vim or less? Thanks! L. On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 6:21 PM, Jonas Bernoulli jo...@bernoulli.cc wrote: On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 19:19, Connor Lane Smith c...@lubutu.com wrote: On 22 March 2010 18:13, Jonas Bernoulli jo...@bernoulli.cc wrote: On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 21:40, hiro 23h...@googlemail.com wrote: 9term I couldn't download it from http://www.cs.usyd.edu.au/~matty/9term/. Where else should I get it? It's distributed with Plan 9 Port: http://swtch.com/plan9port/ Thanks. It's really about time that I try that out.
Re: [dev] terminal that accepts any size
9term is just a pipe, there's just visual buffering, but no console control, no gotoxy, no colors, no icanon modes, etc.. simplest :) Lorenzo Bolla wrote: I gave 9term a quick try, but I couldn't get neither vim nor less work properly with it (they both complain about 9term being an unknown terminal). Is any of you guys using 9term with either vim or less? Thanks! L. On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 6:21 PM, Jonas Bernoulli jo...@bernoulli.cc wrote: On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 19:19, Connor Lane Smith c...@lubutu.com mailto:c...@lubutu.com wrote: On 22 March 2010 18:13, Jonas Bernoulli jo...@bernoulli.cc wrote: On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 21:40, hiro 23h...@googlemail.com mailto:23h...@googlemail.com wrote: 9term I couldn't download it from http://www.cs.usyd.edu.au/~matty/9term/ http://www.cs.usyd.edu.au/%7Ematty/9term/. Where else should I get it? It's distributed with Plan 9 Port: http://swtch.com/plan9port/ Thanks. It's really about time that I try that out.
Re: [dev] terminal that accepts any size
On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 1:16 PM, anonymous aim0s...@lavabit.com wrote: You can use gvim if you really need vim. True, but I edit on remote machines which might not have X. Instead of screen you can use your tiling window manager. Screen is something more than a textual window manager, and surely not the reason why I use it. L.
Re: [dev] terminal that accepts any size
On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 21:40, hiro 23h...@googlemail.com wrote: 9term I couldn't download it from http://www.cs.usyd.edu.au/~matty/9term/. Where else should I get it?
Re: [dev] terminal that accepts any size
Hey, On 22 March 2010 18:13, Jonas Bernoulli jo...@bernoulli.cc wrote: On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 21:40, hiro 23h...@googlemail.com wrote: 9term I couldn't download it from http://www.cs.usyd.edu.au/~matty/9term/. Where else should I get it? It's distributed with Plan 9 Port: http://swtch.com/plan9port/ cls
Re: [dev] terminal that accepts any size
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 19:19, Connor Lane Smith c...@lubutu.com wrote: On 22 March 2010 18:13, Jonas Bernoulli jo...@bernoulli.cc wrote: On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 21:40, hiro 23h...@googlemail.com wrote: 9term I couldn't download it from http://www.cs.usyd.edu.au/~matty/9term/. Where else should I get it? It's distributed with Plan 9 Port: http://swtch.com/plan9port/ Thanks. It's really about time that I try that out.
[dev] terminal that accepts any size
Hello Does anyone know a terminal emulator that does accept any window size? I have tried st in the hope that it would provide such a feature; but no luck. Thanks Jonas
Re: [dev] terminal that accepts any size
??? Size of what? Are you talking about resizehints? - Original message - Hello Does anyone know a terminal emulator that does accept any window size? I have tried st in the hope that it would provide such a feature; but no luck. Thanks Jonas
Re: [dev] terminal that accepts any size
On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 17:12, pancake panc...@youterm.com wrote: ??? Size of what? Are you talking about resizehints? Yes.
Re: [dev] terminal that accepts any size
Well, resizehints are exactly that, hints. Not an obligation. It's usually the job of the window manager to respect (or not to respect) those hints - it's not something that has to be changed in the implementation of the terminal emulator. Surma On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 5:48 PM, Jonas Bernoulli jo...@bernoulli.cc wrote: On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 17:12, pancake panc...@youterm.com wrote: ??? Size of what? Are you talking about resizehints? Yes.
Re: [dev] terminal that accepts any size
On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 18:04, Alexander Surma alexander.su...@googlemail.com wrote: Well, resizehints are exactly that, hints. Not an obligation. It's usually the job of the window manager to respect (or not to respect) those hints - it's not something that has to be changed in the implementation of the terminal emulator. Let me rephrase: Does anyone know of a terminal that instead of setting resize hints (that would cause wmii to draw thicker boarders around the window [1]) does not set any resize hints but instead adds some extra space (in the background color) on the right and/or lower sides (or equally on all) (which does not have any (truncated) text on it) if the window size set by the window manager does set the window to a size which match a multitude of the font being used? [1] and which is worse often draws a thinner boarder, like in of size 0px.
Re: [dev] terminal that accepts any size
I can't speak for wmii, but if you make dwm ignore resizehints xterm behaves exactly like that. If you insist on keeping resizehints enabled, I don't believe you'll find a terminal which works like that out of the box. Suma On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 6:34 PM, Jonas Bernoulli jo...@bernoulli.cc wrote: On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 18:04, Alexander Surma alexander.su...@googlemail.com wrote: Well, resizehints are exactly that, hints. Not an obligation. It's usually the job of the window manager to respect (or not to respect) those hints - it's not something that has to be changed in the implementation of the terminal emulator. Let me rephrase: Does anyone know of a terminal that instead of setting resize hints (that would cause wmii to draw thicker boarders around the window [1]) does not set any resize hints but instead adds some extra space (in the background color) on the right and/or lower sides (or equally on all) (which does not have any (truncated) text on it) if the window size set by the window manager does set the window to a size which match a multitude of the font being used? [1] and which is worse often draws a thinner boarder, like in of size 0px.
Re: [dev] terminal that accepts any size
9term
Re: [dev] terminal that accepts any size
hiro dixit (2010-03-20, 21:40): 9term 10term. I win. -- [a]
Re: [dev] terminal that accepts any size
Alexander Surma dixit (2010-03-20, 18:48): On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 6:34 PM, Jonas Bernoulli jo...@bernoulli.cc wrote: On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 18:04, Alexander Surma alexander.su...@googlemail.com wrote: Well, resizehints are exactly that, hints. Not an obligation. It's usually the job of the window manager to respect (or not to respect) those hints - it's not something that has to be changed in the implementation of the terminal emulator. Let me rephrase: Does anyone know of a terminal that instead of setting resize hints (that would cause wmii to draw thicker boarders around the window [1]) does not set any resize hints but instead adds some extra space (in the background color) on the right and/or lower sides (or equally on all) (which does not have any (truncated) text on it) if the window size set by the window manager does set the window to a size which match a multitude of the font being used? [1] and which is worse often draws a thinner boarder, like in of size 0px. I can't speak for wmii, but if you make dwm ignore resizehints xterm behaves exactly like that. If you insist on keeping resizehints enabled, I don't believe you'll find a terminal which works like that out of the box. The terminal provides the hints, it's up to the wm, to make use from them or not. *xterm and *rxvt will behave the way you want if you disable obeying resizehints in your window manager. Whether it's tunable in wmii, I don't know. So there's nothing to rephrase. On a side note, don't we just love mixing topposting and bottomposting? -- [a]
Re: [dev] terminal that accepts any size
I like posting in general, yeah. On 3/20/10, Antoni Grzymala ant...@chopin.edu.pl wrote: Alexander Surma dixit (2010-03-20, 18:48): On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 6:34 PM, Jonas Bernoulli jo...@bernoulli.cc wrote: On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 18:04, Alexander Surma alexander.su...@googlemail.com wrote: Well, resizehints are exactly that, hints. Not an obligation. It's usually the job of the window manager to respect (or not to respect) those hints - it's not something that has to be changed in the implementation of the terminal emulator. Let me rephrase: Does anyone know of a terminal that instead of setting resize hints (that would cause wmii to draw thicker boarders around the window [1]) does not set any resize hints but instead adds some extra space (in the background color) on the right and/or lower sides (or equally on all) (which does not have any (truncated) text on it) if the window size set by the window manager does set the window to a size which match a multitude of the font being used? [1] and which is worse often draws a thinner boarder, like in of size 0px. I can't speak for wmii, but if you make dwm ignore resizehints xterm behaves exactly like that. If you insist on keeping resizehints enabled, I don't believe you'll find a terminal which works like that out of the box. The terminal provides the hints, it's up to the wm, to make use from them or not. *xterm and *rxvt will behave the way you want if you disable obeying resizehints in your window manager. Whether it's tunable in wmii, I don't know. So there's nothing to rephrase. On a side note, don't we just love mixing topposting and bottomposting? -- [a]
