Re: [dev] [ANNOUNCE] dvtm-0.11
On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 09:53:14AM -0400, Bryan Bennett wrote:
I'm currently playing with the tagging branch and I've managed to reduce the
tagging code to two modfiers. I'm using Ctrl+A + {1,2,3,4} for view,
Ctrl+A + {!,@,#,$} for tag (so it mirrors dwm's keybinds a bit). I'm also
using Ctrl+S + {1,2,3,4} for toggletag and Ctrl+S + {!,@,#,$} for toggleview.
I personally find MOD+[Function-key] much nicer to use than your special
characters.
This replicates tmux pretty well for me, so I'm a pretty happy camper with
regards to this portion.
Good for you.
However, I've noticed that screen drawing seems...
wonky. (particularly with vim) I have installed the 'new' terminfo (not sure
if it changed; didn't think to check till now...) to no avail. Was some of the
redrawing logic that was changed in 0.11 changed in rebasing tagging
onto master?
Could be the case, as I said it wasn't really tested. That being said what
artifacts do you encounter? Upon a ~10 second test I didn't notice something
completely broken. Just to make sure it doesn't happen with the master branch,
right?
I'm also not 100% clear on what toggleview should actually DO.
Well it does the same thing as in dwm. I think your confusing it with toggletag.
I thought there was a wiki page about the tagging concept but upon a quick
search
I didn't find it...
'view' brings a tag into view (and discards any other tags from the view)
displays all windows with a given tag
'tag' sends a client to a tag (much like send to dekstop does in most wms)
applies a given tag to the focused window
'toggletag' brings a tag into your current view.
No, it adds/removes a given tag to/from the focused window
'toggleview' doesn't seem to do...anything.
adds/removes all windows with a given tag to/from the view
Hope that helps.
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Marc André Tanner http://www.brain-dump.org/ GPG key: CF7D56C0
Re: [dev] [ANNOUNCE] dvtm-0.11
On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 3:16 PM, Marc André Tanner m...@brain-dump.org wrote: I personally find MOD+[Function-key] much nicer to use than your special characters. Makes sense, but I just wanted a shifted modifier (like MOD+shift+number in dwm). To each their own here. Just to make sure it doesn't happen with the master branch, right? Haven't been able to test master today, but I'll do so when I get home this evening. I don't recall having issues with redrawing while using master, however. Regarding your explanation of the functions, I'll keep that in mind in further testing. What you explained is largely what I expected to happen, but the behavior didn't seem consistent with expectations. I'll look over the code tonight when testing and hopefully that will help me out a bit. (It seems that so far things are working as expected upon initial retry of the build. Not sure what could have caused this confusion.) I just tried tagging out again and I was unable to 100% replicate the redrawing problems. It seems to be related to some strange behavior immediately after spawning st within dwm. More investigation seems necessary. Thanks for the help. I'll send more information if/when I get it.
Re: [dev] [ANNOUNCE] dvtm-0.11
On Sat, Mar 08, 2014 at 10:07:40PM +0100, Sanel Zukan wrote: On 03/08/14,Marc André Tanner wrote: * the lock functionality (MOD-X) has been removed, use a session management tool like abduco to detach from your controlling terminal and logout properly using the existing system mechanism. I'm quite sad to see this. I used lock functionality a lot In what circumstances? Surely your system provides better screen lock functionality (for example slock). although I prefer UNIX philosophy, I find it overused sometimes. dvtm + dtach + abduco + what-else-in-future = no wonder why Screen will be still around. At least in my toolbox ;) It is just abduco + dvtm, but since abduco defaults to dvtm when given no other command to execute this is simplified further. Otherwise just write a shell script (or use screen if it works for you...) Cheers, Marc -- Marc André Tanner http://www.brain-dump.org/ GPG key: CF7D56C0
Re: [dev] [ANNOUNCE] dvtm-0.11
On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 09:27:55AM -0400, Bryan Bennett wrote: This latest work on dvtm is great, particularly the scrollback changes. I really appreciate the effort put into it. Looking at the git repository, I noticed the tagging branch and got quite excited. Is there a plan to update this branch to the 0.11 release? I just rebased it on top of master. However I haven't really tested it. development of this feature stopped or delayed? Was it just lack of time/interest, or is it considered feature creep to have tags here? The problem is that it introduces quite a few new keybindings which probably aren't that intuitive (multiple modifier keys etc). See also the last part of this mail: http://lists.suckless.org/dev/1312/18805.html Furthermore the current functionality with minimized windows is sufficient for my needs. However feel free to try the tagging branch and come up with better keybindings... Marc -- Marc André Tanner http://www.brain-dump.org/ GPG key: CF7D56C0
Re: [dev] [ANNOUNCE] dvtm-0.11
I'm currently playing with the tagging branch and I've managed to reduce the
tagging code to two modfiers. I'm using Ctrl+A + {1,2,3,4} for view,
Ctrl+A + {!,@,#,$} for tag (so it mirrors dwm's keybinds a bit). I'm also
using Ctrl+S + {1,2,3,4} for toggletag and Ctrl+S + {!,@,#,$} for toggleview.
This replicates tmux pretty well for me, so I'm a pretty happy camper with
regards to this portion. However, I've noticed that screen drawing seems...
wonky. (particularly with vim) I have installed the 'new' terminfo (not sure
if it changed; didn't think to check till now...) to no avail. Was some of the
redrawing logic that was changed in 0.11 changed in rebasing tagging
onto master?
I'm also not 100% clear on what toggleview should actually DO.
'view' brings a tag into view (and discards any other tags from the view)
'tag' sends a client to a tag (much like send to dekstop does in most wms)
'toggletag' brings a tag into your current view.
'toggleview' doesn't seem to do...anything.
Re: [dev] [ANNOUNCE] dvtm-0.11
This latest work on dvtm is great, particularly the scrollback changes. I really appreciate the effort put into it. Looking at the git repository, I noticed the tagging branch and got quite excited. Is there a plan to update this branch to the 0.11 release? Why was development of this feature stopped or delayed? Was it just lack of time/interest, or is it considered feature creep to have tags here? Thanks again, Bryan
Re: [dev] [ANNOUNCE] dvtm-0.11
On 03/08/14,Marc André Tanner wrote: I just released dvtm-0.11, the dwm counterpart for your ssh and framebuffer console sessions Awesome! * the lock functionality (MOD-X) has been removed, use a session management tool like abduco to detach from your controlling terminal and logout properly using the existing system mechanism. I'm quite sad to see this. I used lock functionality a lot and, although I prefer UNIX philosophy, I find it overused sometimes. dvtm + dtach + abduco + what-else-in-future = no wonder why Screen will be still around. At least in my toolbox ;) Cheers, Marc Best.
