DO NOT REPLY [Bug 50462] xalan import should not be optional in maven-bundle-plugin

2010-12-12 Thread bugzilla
https://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=50462

--- Comment #1 from Rex Wang  2010-12-12 21:46:47 EST ---
Created an attachment (id=26396)
 --> (https://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=26396)
remove optional xalan import

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DO NOT REPLY [Bug 50462] xalan import should not be optional in maven-bundle-plugin

2010-12-19 Thread bugzilla
https://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=50462

--- Comment #2 from Jeremy Boynes  2010-12-19 12:33:57 EST 
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It's marked optional in Maven as it is only needed if someone is using the XML
tags.

Is there a way to mimic that with the OSGi references?

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DO NOT REPLY [Bug 50462] xalan import should not be optional in maven-bundle-plugin

2010-12-21 Thread bugzilla
https://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=50462

--- Comment #3 from Rex Wang  2010-12-21 21:15:19 EST ---
(In reply to comment #2)
> It's marked optional in Maven as it is only needed if someone is using the XML
> tags.
> 
> Is there a way to mimic that with the OSGi references?

Not sure about that.

At least, IMO, that is not the correct way by using optional:=resolution in
import-package to achieve the requirement.

I think the optional:=resolution directive is used to express that if osgi
framework can not resolve the package, the codes in this bundle may use the
implementation from itself or from jdk.

So if the codes have hard dependency to (explicitly import) a package, we
should not make it as optional resolution.

-Rex

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DO NOT REPLY [Bug 50462] xalan import should not be optional in maven-bundle-plugin

2010-12-21 Thread bugzilla
https://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=50462

Jeremy Boynes  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Blocks||50064

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DO NOT REPLY [Bug 50462] xalan import should not be optional in maven-bundle-plugin

2010-12-31 Thread bugzilla
https://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=50462

Jeremy Boynes  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEW |RESOLVED
 Resolution||FIXED

--- Comment #4 from Jeremy Boynes  2010-12-31 18:31:40 EST 
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Removed optional declaration in r1054176

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DO NOT REPLY [Bug 50462] xalan import should not be optional in maven-bundle-plugin

2012-01-11 Thread bugzilla
https://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=50462

--- Comment #5 from xiaming  2012-01-12 07:53:42 UTC ---
Hi Devs,

Can you make a maven release for taglib 1.2? We want to use this in Geronimo
release. thanks in advance!

Forrest

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Re: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 50462] xalan import should not be optional in maven-bundle-plugin

2010-12-21 Thread Jeremy Boynes
On Dec 21, 2010, at 6:15 PM, bugzi...@apache.org wrote:

> https://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=50462
> 
> --- Comment #3 from Rex Wang  2010-12-21 21:15:19 EST ---
> (In reply to comment #2)
>> It's marked optional in Maven as it is only needed if someone is using the 
>> XML
>> tags.
>> 
>> Is there a way to mimic that with the OSGi references?
> 
> Not sure about that.
> 
> At least, IMO, that is not the correct way by using optional:=resolution in
> import-package to achieve the requirement.
> 
> I think the optional:=resolution directive is used to express that if osgi
> framework can not resolve the package, the codes in this bundle may use the
> implementation from itself or from jdk.
> 
> So if the codes have hard dependency to (explicitly import) a package, we
> should not make it as optional resolution.

Perhaps the changes needed to address the performance issue in #27717 are 
relevant here.
These stem from issues in Xalan's implementation which would also apply if we 
tried to use the JDK's implementation. I had a prototype working with Jaxen but 
the project is pushing builds to the Maven repos and does not seem very active 
(like, no-one replied to a recent committer call) so depending on it could be 
problematic. I was thinking of using JXPath instead (from commons).

With multiple options out there, perhaps we could just have taglibs use an 
interface and provide wrappers for each as separate modules. if we did that, is 
that something that could be easily handled with OSGi?

Thanks
Jeremy


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Re: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 50462] xalan import should not be optional in maven-bundle-plugin

2010-12-21 Thread Rex Wang
2010/12/22 Jeremy Boynes 

> On Dec 21, 2010, at 6:15 PM, bugzi...@apache.org wrote:
>
> > https://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=50462
> >
> > --- Comment #3 from Rex Wang  2010-12-21 21:15:19 EST
> ---
> > (In reply to comment #2)
> >> It's marked optional in Maven as it is only needed if someone is using
> the XML
> >> tags.
> >>
> >> Is there a way to mimic that with the OSGi references?
> >
> > Not sure about that.
> >
> > At least, IMO, that is not the correct way by using optional:=resolution
> in
> > import-package to achieve the requirement.
> >
> > I think the optional:=resolution directive is used to express that if
> osgi
> > framework can not resolve the package, the codes in this bundle may use
> the
> > implementation from itself or from jdk.
> >
> > So if the codes have hard dependency to (explicitly import) a package, we
> > should not make it as optional resolution.
>
> Perhaps the changes needed to address the performance issue in #27717 are
> relevant here.
> These stem from issues in Xalan's implementation which would also apply if
> we tried to use the JDK's implementation. I had a prototype working with
> Jaxen but the project is pushing builds to the Maven repos and does not seem
> very active (like, no-one replied to a recent committer call) so depending
> on it could be problematic. I was thinking of using JXPath instead (from
> commons).
>
I also don't find JXPATH in maven repo.. However, you also can use the
servicemix bundled one:
http://repo1.maven.org/maven2/org/apache/servicemix/bundles/org.apache.servicemix.bundles.commons-jxpath,
But that is not the least version 1.3.


>
> With multiple options out there, perhaps we could just have taglibs use an
> interface and provide wrappers for each as separate modules. if we did that,
> is that something that could be easily handled with OSGi?
>

I am not very familiar with XPATH. Do you mean the approach like spi?
IIUC, xalan implements the spi of javax.xml.transform.TransformerFactory and
javax.xml.xpath.XPathFactory. So if xalan is in the path, we can choose it
as the xpath implementation. I am not sure if jaxen and jxpath implement the
spi either.
Why not move to the standard api in jdk instead of defining new apis and
wrappers?

-Rex


>
> Thanks
> Jeremy
>
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Re: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 50462] xalan import should not be optional in maven-bundle-plugin

2010-12-21 Thread Jeremy Boynes
On Dec 21, 2010, at 10:28 PM, Rex Wang wrote:

> 2010/12/22 Jeremy Boynes 
>> 
>> Perhaps the changes needed to address the performance issue in #27717 are
>> relevant here.
>> These stem from issues in Xalan's implementation which would also apply if
>> we tried to use the JDK's implementation. I had a prototype working with
>> Jaxen but the project is pushing builds to the Maven repos and does not seem
>> very active (like, no-one replied to a recent committer call) so depending
>> on it could be problematic. I was thinking of using JXPath instead (from
>> commons).
>> 
> I also don't find JXPATH in maven repo.. However, you also can use the
> servicemix bundled one:
> http://repo1.maven.org/maven2/org/apache/servicemix/bundles/org.apache.servicemix.bundles.commons-jxpath,
> But that is not the least version 1.3.

The official one is at:
http://repo2.maven.org/maven2/commons-jxpath/commons-jxpath/1.3/

Not sure if it's an OSGi bundle though. Is that what ServiceMix is doing when 
repackaging?

> 
> 
>> 
>> With multiple options out there, perhaps we could just have taglibs use an
>> interface and provide wrappers for each as separate modules. if we did that,
>> is that something that could be easily handled with OSGi?
>> 
> 
> I am not very familiar with XPATH. Do you mean the approach like spi?
> IIUC, xalan implements the spi of javax.xml.transform.TransformerFactory and
> javax.xml.xpath.XPathFactory. So if xalan is in the path, we can choose it
> as the xpath implementation. I am not sure if jaxen and jxpath implement the
> spi either.
> Why not move to the standard api in jdk instead of defining new apis and
> wrappers?

The XPath implementation in Oracle's JDK was originally based on Xalan and has 
the same performance issue.

One issue with the JAXP API is that it does not allow context to be passed to 
the evaluation and so the XPath position() and last() functions can't be 
supported (at least, I've not figured out how). Now the current implementation 
does not support them either (see #22765) so this may not be a major issue, but 
the proprietary APIs in Jaxen and JXPath should enable this (would need to code 
it to be sure).

How about:
* define our own API that allows context to be passed
* create a context-free wrapper for JAXP and remove the hard dependency on 
Xalan (solving the optional bundle issue)
* create other wrappers for Jaxen and/or JXPath that can use the context
We could proceed with a release based on the first two steps alone as there's 
no regression.

--
Jeremy



Re: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 50462] xalan import should not be optional in maven-bundle-plugin

2010-12-22 Thread Rex Wang
2010/12/22 Jeremy Boynes 

> On Dec 21, 2010, at 10:28 PM, Rex Wang wrote:
>
> > 2010/12/22 Jeremy Boynes 
> >>
> >> Perhaps the changes needed to address the performance issue in #27717
> are
> >> relevant here.
> >> These stem from issues in Xalan's implementation which would also apply
> if
> >> we tried to use the JDK's implementation. I had a prototype working with
> >> Jaxen but the project is pushing builds to the Maven repos and does not
> seem
> >> very active (like, no-one replied to a recent committer call) so
> depending
> >> on it could be problematic. I was thinking of using JXPath instead (from
> >> commons).
> >>
> > I also don't find JXPATH in maven repo.. However, you also can use the
> > servicemix bundled one:
> >
> http://repo1.maven.org/maven2/org/apache/servicemix/bundles/org.apache.servicemix.bundles.commons-jxpath
> ,
> > But that is not the least version 1.3.
>
> The official one is at:
> http://repo2.maven.org/maven2/commons-jxpath/commons-jxpath/1.3/
>
> Not sure if it's an OSGi bundle though.
>
I just saw it. Yes, it is a bundle. But seems made 2 years ago. Is jxpath
actively maintained now?

Is that what ServiceMix is doing when repackaging?
>
Yes.


>  >
> >
> >>
> >> With multiple options out there, perhaps we could just have taglibs use
> an
> >> interface and provide wrappers for each as separate modules. if we did
> that,
> >> is that something that could be easily handled with OSGi?
> >>
> >
> > I am not very familiar with XPATH. Do you mean the approach like spi?
> > IIUC, xalan implements the spi of javax.xml.transform.TransformerFactory
> and
> > javax.xml.xpath.XPathFactory. So if xalan is in the path, we can choose
> it
> > as the xpath implementation. I am not sure if jaxen and jxpath implement
> the
> > spi either.
> > Why not move to the standard api in jdk instead of defining new apis and
> > wrappers?
>
> The XPath implementation in Oracle's JDK was originally based on Xalan and
> has the same performance issue.
>
> One issue with the JAXP API is that it does not allow context to be passed
> to the evaluation and so the XPath position() and last() functions can't be
> supported (at least, I've not figured out how). Now the current
> implementation does not support them either (see #22765) so this may not be
> a major issue, but the proprietary APIs in Jaxen and JXPath should enable
> this (would need to code it to be sure).
>
> How about:
> * define our own API that allows context to be passed
> * create a context-free wrapper for JAXP and remove the hard dependency on
> Xalan (solving the optional bundle issue)
> * create other wrappers for Jaxen and/or JXPath that can use the context
> We could proceed with a release based on the first two steps alone as
> there's no regression.
>
+0 if the reason of defining our own api is only to resolve #22765, since it
is not required by spec.


And,  the performance issue is not a blocker to you to do release?

Thanks
-Rex


> --
> Jeremy
>
>


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Re: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 50462] xalan import should not be optional in maven-bundle-plugin

2010-12-22 Thread Jeremy Boynes

On Dec 22, 2010, at 1:01 AM, Rex Wang wrote:

> 2010/12/22 Jeremy Boynes 
>> 
>> The XPath implementation in Oracle's JDK was originally based on Xalan and
>> has the same performance issue.
>> 
>> One issue with the JAXP API is that it does not allow context to be passed
>> to the evaluation and so the XPath position() and last() functions can't be
>> supported (at least, I've not figured out how). Now the current
>> implementation does not support them either (see #22765) so this may not be
>> a major issue, but the proprietary APIs in Jaxen and JXPath should enable
>> this (would need to code it to be sure).
>> 
>> How about:
>> * define our own API that allows context to be passed
>> * create a context-free wrapper for JAXP and remove the hard dependency on
>> Xalan (solving the optional bundle issue)
>> * create other wrappers for Jaxen and/or JXPath that can use the context
>> We could proceed with a release based on the first two steps alone as
>> there's no regression.
>> 
> +0 if the reason of defining our own api is only to resolve #22765, since it
> is not required by spec.

Reading the last 2 bullets on pp157 it references context position and size and 
the only way to access those in XPath would be using the position() and last() 
functions.

> And,  the performance issue is not a blocker to you to do release?

It's been there long enough so no :)
It's more that if a fix requires changes to the dependencies it's user 
impacting.

There are still the two issues with the fmt library and 50265 is functionally 
broken not just a performance issue.