I am fine with it: +1
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Von: Jean-Louis Monteiro <jlmonte...@tomitribe.com>
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 11. Mai 2022 15:57:54
An: dev@tomee.apache.org
Betreff: Re: TomEE 9.x - from javax to jakarta namespace

Alright, with the latest changes pushed yesterday and today, we are now at
the exact same numbers for TomEE 8.x / Jakarta EE 8 under JDK8 and TomEE
9.x / Jakarta 9.1 under JDK17.

If everyone is ok with it, we can create a new milestone and give users the
opportunity to provide us with some feedback and to report bugs.

--
Jean-Louis Monteiro
http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
http://www.tomitribe.com


On Tue, May 10, 2022 at 7:06 PM David Blevins <david.blev...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Was checking out the TCK numbers this morning can make to suggest a
> 9.0.0-M8 while things look good and found this amazing email.
>
> The 9.0.x branch is looking absolutely amazing!!!
>
> What do we think about pushing out a 9.0.0-M8 while things are in their
> peak-stable state?  I'm sure we'll have to rip up a few more things to
> finish off the remaining Jakarta EE and MP TCK issues.  Would be great to
> have something that isn't M7 to fallback on as a reference point to track
> regressions.
>
> Thoughts?
>
>
> -David
>
>
>
> > On May 10, 2022, at 3:56 AM, Jean-Louis Monteiro <
> jlmonte...@tomitribe.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Time for some reporting....
> >
> > On our journey to migrate TomEE over from javax to jakarta namespace, we
> > had many issues.
> > After updating all our code, we had to do a bunch of dependency upgrades
> > after upgrading many of them (OpenWebbeans, BVal, Geronimo, etc).
> >
> > We then faced many issues with non compatible libraries for example
> > (ActiveMQ, commons-dbcp, CXF, sxc, taglib, etc). So we ended up repacking
> > them in our own groupId after using the Maven Shade plugin to relocate
> the
> > packages.
> >
> > We worked on BVal TCK and CDI TCK and we are close to passing them.
> >
> > But we had before to solve all our outdated MicroProfile 1.3 stack to the
> > most recent and jakarta compatible version. Geronimo implementations
> being
> > far being, we decided to use some SmallRye implementations until we can
> > dedicate some time to update our Apache implementations (config, metrics,
> > health, openapi, opentracing, fault tolerance).
> >
> > Our build is now more stable, but still not green. Some issues are
> > basically easy to fix and most people could do it (examples for
> instance).
> >
> > https://ci-builds.apache.org/job/Tomee/job/master-build-full/
> >
> > The integration for openapi, opentracing and fault tolerance is not done
> > and we are far from passing the TCK. On config, metrics and health we are
> > close. Same for our JWT implementation.
> >
> > I also wanted to have a view on the platform TCK, so I decided to stop
> > TomEE work in order to spend time on the Platform TCK to do all
> dependency
> > upgrades and get the TCK to run properly. I'm pleased to announce that
> > after 2 weeks of hard work, we are 99% compatible
> >
> > https://tck.work/tomee/build?id=1652104572445
> >
> > Thanks everyone for the help.
> > Keep going and if you need some guidance or help, let us know.
> >
> > For coordination purposes, here is the issue
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TOMEE-3862
> > Many subtasks are there and you can create new tasks when needed and ask
> > any committer to assign it to you.
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Jean-Louis Monteiro
> > http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
> > http://www.tomitribe.com
> >
> >
> > On Thu, May 5, 2022 at 11:13 AM Zowalla, Richard <
> > richard.zowa...@hs-heilbronn.de> wrote:
> >
> >> Yes - we already yanked it in 9.x
> >>
> >> Gruß
> >> Richard
> >>
> >> Am Donnerstag, dem 05.05.2022 um 10:10 +0100 schrieb Jonathan
> >> Gallimore:
> >>> Sounds good. I'll drop the transformer from the 8.x branch (looks
> >>> like we
> >>> don't use it in 9.x), and I'll create a single example to demonstrate
> >>> it in
> >>> a sandbox.
> >>>
> >>> Jon
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, May 4, 2022 at 12:32 PM Zowalla, Richard <
> >>> richard.zowa...@hs-heilbronn.de> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> You are right - we can remove it imho from 8.x as we do not test
> >>>> with
> >>>> it and the transformed samples might not even work, e.g.
> >>>> dependencies
> >>>> are not migrated, etc.
> >>>>
> >>>> +1 for providing a (bigger) example.
> >>>>
> >>>> Gruß
> >>>> Richard
> >>>>
> >>>> Am Mittwoch, dem 04.05.2022 um 11:17 +0100 schrieb Jonathan
> >>>> Gallimore:
> >>>>> I've picked up a task related to the examples:
> >>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TOMEE-3873. I specifically
> >>>>> went
> >>>>> for
> >>>>> this, as I added the Eclipse Transformer to the build for a
> >>>>> number of
> >>>>> examples in the past, back when we were doing the transformation
> >>>>> process on
> >>>>> TomEE itself. The drawbacks here is that any tests in the
> >>>>> examples
> >>>>> run on
> >>>>> the javax code, and we just "assume" that the transformed
> >>>>> artifact
> >>>>> works. I
> >>>>> would suggest removing that for the master build, as it just
> >>>>> takes
> >>>>> build
> >>>>> time, and the examples should be transformed from javax to
> >>>>> jakarta at
> >>>>> source (if they aren't already). On the TomEE 8 build, we could
> >>>>> select a
> >>>>> few examples (no need to do them all) and find a way to run the
> >>>>> tests
> >>>>> on
> >>>>> both javax and jakarta versions of TomEE.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Additionally, it would likely be useful to add documentation to
> >>>>> this.
> >>>>> If we
> >>>>> also wanted a bigger example application that specifically covers
> >>>>> transformation, I could look at that too.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> What do you think?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Jon
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 12:58 PM Jean-Louis Monteiro <
> >>>>> jlmonte...@tomitribe.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I've been working for quite a long time on TomEE 9.x, and it's
> >>>>>> been
> >>>>>> more
> >>>>>> challenging and painful than I was expecting. I thought it
> >>>>>> would be
> >>>>>> good to
> >>>>>> give you some sort of status.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I created a PR for the work. As a reminder, since Java EE moved
> >>>>>> to
> >>>>>> Eclipse
> >>>>>> to become Jakarta EE, we had a switch from javax.* namespace to
> >>>>>> jakarta.*
> >>>>>> namespace. This is an impacting change, since all applications
> >>>>>> and
> >>>>>> applications servers are built on top of it.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> In TomEE, we decided to do that change in TomEE. We had
> >>>>>> previously
> >>>>>> a
> >>>>>> bytecode change approach like an application could do. It
> >>>>>> worked
> >>>>>> and we
> >>>>>> were able to get certified. But it had a lot of limitations, so
> >>>>>> we
> >>>>>> had to
> >>>>>> do the migration in the code and fix all compatibility issues.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Here is the PR https://github.com/apache/tomee/pull/814
> >>>>>> It has 90+ commits and nearly 5000 files touched (added,
> >>>>>> removed,
> >>>>>> updated).
> >>>>>> I understand it's a lot and it makes it almost impossible to
> >>>>>> review. But I
> >>>>>> did not see much approaches in this scenario to create smaller
> >>>>>> PRs.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I created a Jenkins build though available at
> >>>>>> https://ci-builds.apache.org/job/Tomee/job/master-build-quick-9.x/
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> It makes it possible to track the progress. There have been
> >>>>>> steps
> >>>>>> forward
> >>>>>> and steps backward.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> All the code does not sit under TomEE, we use a bunch of third
> >>>>>> party
> >>>>>> projects and libraries. I have been able to contribute, publish
> >>>>>> jakarta
> >>>>>> compatible versions and get releases for some of them (Jakarta
> >>>>>> EE
> >>>>>> APIs Uber
> >>>>>> jar, Geronimo Connectors and Transaction Manager, Geronimo
> >>>>>> Config,
> >>>>>> Health,
> >>>>>> Metrics, OpenTracing, OpenAPI. OpenJPA, BVal, and OpenWebBeans
> >>>>>> will
> >>>>>> be
> >>>>>> released soon.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The big parts is CXF, and ActiveMQ. I had to get them done in
> >>>>>> TomEE
> >>>>>> and
> >>>>>> update all group/artifact ids. It's under deps, alongside with
> >>>>>> SXC,
> >>>>>> DBCP,
> >>>>>> and others.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> In terms of removal, I tried to remove old stuff like SAAJ Axis
> >>>>>> 1
> >>>>>> integration, JAX RPC, Management J2EE and a couple of other old
> >>>>>> things.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> A lot of other libraries got updated to their latest version
> >>>>>> when
> >>>>>> available
> >>>>>> in the new jakarta namespace.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I'm starting to get all the build stable and many modules are
> >>>>>> passing now,
> >>>>>> including all CXF webservices, OpenEJB Core, and others. I can
> >>>>>> get
> >>>>>> a build
> >>>>>> and run TomEE.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Goal is to get a green build asap so we can start working on
> >>>>>> TCK.
> >>>>>> The "quick" build is now green. Working on the full build.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I'll soon be creating a branch for TomEE 8.x maintenance and
> >>>>>> merge
> >>>>>> the PR.
> >>>>>> I'm hoping we can then have small PRs or at least more people
> >>>>>> working in
> >>>>>> parallel.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> Jean-Louis Monteiro
> >>>>>> http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
> >>>>>> http://www.tomitribe.com
> >>>>>>
> >>
>
>

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