[Dev] Service Management Menu Item

2012-03-19 Thread Hiranya Jayathilaka 
I see that in the UI of latest builds, the "Web Services" menu item has
been changed to "Axis2 Services". Any reasons for this change (sorry if
I've missed any past conversation)?

I think "Web Services" is a better name since we list all kinds of services
in this page - proxy services, data services etc. I agree that they are
also technically Axis2 services, but our tooling is based on the old naming
convention.

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Re: [Dev] Service Management Menu Item

2012-03-19 Thread Senaka Fernando 
Hi Hiranya,

So, say we bundle something like CXF, and we want a service list for JAX-WS
or JAX-RS services deployed in CXF. Will those be listed under this same
menu item? Or under something else?

Thanks,
Senaka.

On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 6:57 PM, Hiranya Jayathilaka wrote:

> I see that in the UI of latest builds, the "Web Services" menu item has
> been changed to "Axis2 Services". Any reasons for this change (sorry if
> I've missed any past conversation)?
>
> I think "Web Services" is a better name since we list all kinds of
> services in this page - proxy services, data services etc. I agree that
> they are also technically Axis2 services, but our tooling is based on the
> old naming convention.
>
> Thanks
> --
> Hiranya Jayathilaka
> Associate Technical Lead;
> WSO2 Inc.;  http://wso2.org
> E-mail: hira...@wso2.com;  Mobile: +94 77 633 3491
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Re: [Dev] Service Management Menu Item

2012-03-19 Thread Afkham Azeez 
We wanted to highlight JAXWS/JAXRS services in AppServer. So, we have 3 top
level menu items; Web Applications, JAXWS/JAXRS & Axis2 Services. We
renamed Web Services to Axis2 Services since JAXWS/JAXRS services are also
technically  Web Services.

On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 7:08 PM, Senaka Fernando  wrote:

> Hi Hiranya,
>
> So, say we bundle something like CXF, and we want a service list for
> JAX-WS or JAX-RS services deployed in CXF. Will those be listed under this
> same menu item? Or under something else?
>
> Thanks,
> Senaka.
>
> On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 6:57 PM, Hiranya Jayathilaka wrote:
>
>> I see that in the UI of latest builds, the "Web Services" menu item has
>> been changed to "Axis2 Services". Any reasons for this change (sorry if
>> I've missed any past conversation)?
>>
>> I think "Web Services" is a better name since we list all kinds of
>> services in this page - proxy services, data services etc. I agree that
>> they are also technically Axis2 services, but our tooling is based on the
>> old naming convention.
>>
>> Thanks
>> --
>> Hiranya Jayathilaka
>> Associate Technical Lead;
>> WSO2 Inc.;  http://wso2.org
>> E-mail: hira...@wso2.com;  Mobile: +94 77 633 3491
>> Blog: http://techfeast-hiranya.blogspot.com
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Re: [Dev] Service Management Menu Item

2012-03-19 Thread Sameera Jayasoma 
I am just thinking where should we place proxy services when it comes to
ESB..

Thanks,
Sameera.

On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 1:47 PM, Afkham Azeez  wrote:

> We wanted to highlight JAXWS/JAXRS services in AppServer. So, we have 3
> top level menu items; Web Applications, JAXWS/JAXRS & Axis2 Services. We
> renamed Web Services to Axis2 Services since JAXWS/JAXRS services are also
> technically  Web Services.
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 7:08 PM, Senaka Fernando  wrote:
>
>> Hi Hiranya,
>>
>> So, say we bundle something like CXF, and we want a service list for
>> JAX-WS or JAX-RS services deployed in CXF. Will those be listed under this
>> same menu item? Or under something else?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Senaka.
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 6:57 PM, Hiranya Jayathilaka wrote:
>>
>>> I see that in the UI of latest builds, the "Web Services" menu item has
>>> been changed to "Axis2 Services". Any reasons for this change (sorry if
>>> I've missed any past conversation)?
>>>
>>> I think "Web Services" is a better name since we list all kinds of
>>> services in this page - proxy services, data services etc. I agree that
>>> they are also technically Axis2 services, but our tooling is based on the
>>> old naming convention.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> --
>>> Hiranya Jayathilaka
>>> Associate Technical Lead;
>>> WSO2 Inc.;  http://wso2.org
>>> E-mail: hira...@wso2.com;  Mobile: +94 77 633 3491
>>> Blog: http://techfeast-hiranya.blogspot.com
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>>
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>> Associate Technical Lead; WSO2 Inc.; http://wso2.com*
>> Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://apache.org
>>
>> E-mail: senaka AT wso2.com
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Re: [Dev] Service Management Menu Item

2012-03-19 Thread Sameera Jayasoma 
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 1:27 PM, Hiranya Jayathilaka wrote:

> I see that in the UI of latest builds, the "Web Services" menu item has
> been changed to "Axis2 Services". Any reasons for this change (sorry if
> I've missed any past conversation)?
>
> I think "Web Services" is a better name since we list all kinds of
> services in this page - proxy services, data services etc. I agree that
> they are also technically Axis2 services, but our tooling is based on the
> old naming convention.
>

+1. IMHO, "Web Services is the correct name". Its how we have placed proxy
services as well as data services.

Sameera.

>
> Thanks
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Re: [Dev] Service Management Menu Item

2012-03-19 Thread Isuru Suriarachchi 
Yes, when proxy services menu listed under "Web Services" menu, it's kind
of odd. But we have to address the original issue as well. JAX-WS/JAX-RS
are also web services and we can't list them under "Web Services". Those
are basically deployed as WAR files. So anyone got a better idea to address
both concerns?

Thanks,
~Isuru

On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 12:10 AM, Sameera Jayasoma  wrote:

>
>
> On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 1:27 PM, Hiranya Jayathilaka wrote:
>
>> I see that in the UI of latest builds, the "Web Services" menu item has
>> been changed to "Axis2 Services". Any reasons for this change (sorry if
>> I've missed any past conversation)?
>>
>> I think "Web Services" is a better name since we list all kinds of
>> services in this page - proxy services, data services etc. I agree that
>> they are also technically Axis2 services, but our tooling is based on the
>> old naming convention.
>>
>
> +1. IMHO, "Web Services is the correct name". Its how we have placed proxy
> services as well as data services.
>
> Sameera.
>
>>
>> Thanks
>> --
>> Hiranya Jayathilaka
>> Associate Technical Lead;
>> WSO2 Inc.;  http://wso2.org
>> E-mail: hira...@wso2.com;  Mobile: +94 77 633 3491
>> Blog: http://techfeast-hiranya.blogspot.com
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Re: [Dev] Service Management Menu Item

2012-03-19 Thread Hiranya Jayathilaka 
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 7:17 PM, Afkham Azeez  wrote:

> We wanted to highlight JAXWS/JAXRS services in AppServer. So, we have 3
> top level menu items; Web Applications, JAXWS/JAXRS & Axis2 Services. We
> renamed Web Services to Axis2 Services since JAXWS/JAXRS services are also
> technically  Web Services.


If this is the problem we are trying to solve then I don't think simply
renaming the menu item to "Axis2 Services" is enough. As we know this page
lists data services and proxy services too. And there is a "type" field in
the page which can take one of many values. And one of those values is
again called "Axis2"! If I'm on the "Axis2 services" page then naturally
I'd expect to see only the services of type "Axis2". Therefore the type
field is redundant and displaying proxy services and data services on the
same page is not intuitive from UI design perspective.

Also this complicates Carbon Studio tooling. In CS, "Axis2 Service" is a
top level artifact type.  Similarly "Proxy Service" and "Data Service" are
also top level artifact types. But once deployed all these different types
of artifacts will be listed on the same "Axis2 Services" page. This is
going to confuse users who are new to our platform and jargon. I don't have
any alternative ideas yet, but I don't think this new naming convention in
the UI is very good.

Thanks,
Hiranya


>
>
> On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 7:08 PM, Senaka Fernando  wrote:
>
>> Hi Hiranya,
>>
>> So, say we bundle something like CXF, and we want a service list for
>> JAX-WS or JAX-RS services deployed in CXF. Will those be listed under this
>> same menu item? Or under something else?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Senaka.
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 6:57 PM, Hiranya Jayathilaka wrote:
>>
>>> I see that in the UI of latest builds, the "Web Services" menu item has
>>> been changed to "Axis2 Services". Any reasons for this change (sorry if
>>> I've missed any past conversation)?
>>>
>>> I think "Web Services" is a better name since we list all kinds of
>>> services in this page - proxy services, data services etc. I agree that
>>> they are also technically Axis2 services, but our tooling is based on the
>>> old naming convention.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> --
>>> Hiranya Jayathilaka
>>> Associate Technical Lead;
>>> WSO2 Inc.;  http://wso2.org
>>> E-mail: hira...@wso2.com;  Mobile: +94 77 633 3491
>>> Blog: http://techfeast-hiranya.blogspot.com
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>> Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://apache.org
>>
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