Re: [Dev] XML schema for RXT & LC
Hi Samisa, This was a misunderstanding. There are couple of e-mails on the same, :). I read the issue list first and resolved them, since the issue itself did not have any explanation. But I understood what you were expecting going through the e-mails. I already mentioned this on the other thread, "Why not promote verify the checklist in LC?" and the two issues are already reopened and I have added descriptions. However, some issues reported are actually duplicates, and I have referred to those and resolved. There is a sample on using forEvent for validation ( http://docs.wso2.org/wiki/display/Governance450/Issue+Tracker+Sample), but this is not linked to the configuration model document - that's a miss - I agree. And, we need samples on using forEvent for checkitems, and even more samples on various aspects. Will work on reporting the missing bits. Thanks, Senaka. On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 11:11 AM, Samisa Abeysinghe wrote: > It seems that you have rushed too much into resolving some issues, rather > than getting to the bottom of the problem. > > It is not at all good to day that we have docs on the stuff, if the user > cannot locate them. > > For e.g. I raised the docs issues on RXT and LC after looking into the > docs that Janaka sent, and there were no link or mention whatsoever on the > info on what I was looking for as a user. If I look at > http://docs.wso2.org/wiki/display/Governance450/Lifecycle+Configuration+Model, > there is no single sample on how to use forEvent, on item element, never > mentions it is about "state translation" rather than "transitions". So > technically, you cannot resolve this issue yet. It needs loads of fixing. > > I also raised a bunch along these lines in the release cycle, and I > noticed that you have resolved those with "won't fix". The issues need to > be treated holistically, rather than in isolation. > More examples on being holistic is in the original question, if I have > schema, and I was told yes, for me to figure, as a user, that required is > not behaving the Boolean way, it would have been nice, if it was checked > right, before I was pushed into the depth as a user to figure out myself > where it is broken. > > I think it is quite useless to have the feature with all the functionality > in place, if the users cannot figure how to use them. So it is good to take > time and see if the issues are fixed right. > > The same on the UI, I raised no issues, whatsoever on new UIs. Plus, no > matter who has done the policy decisions on what to do or not, if the > current UI set does not work for users, the bottom line is, you got to fix > them - meet the user needs, rather than keeping to policies. > > What I did was an end to end scenario, involving RXT plus LC. I could not > go much distance, without asking many questions or raising a bunch of > issues. That is bad, so take it slow! > > > On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 10:39 AM, Senaka Fernando wrote: > >> Hi Samisa, >> >> Thanks. I reviewed the list of issues you created. There are few >> different types. >> >> 1. Clear misses in functionality - I mean we don't have those, or never >> tested those and missed totally. >> >> 2. Already reported issues (like support for date field). I resolved >> these as duplicate with reference to the old. >> >> 3. Issues due to not having the proper thing. Like the RXT UI, which is >> still not done. There is a separate issue on creating an RXT UI like the LC >> UI, to which I pointed your issues to. >> >> 4. Issues in documentation. The docs are complete in terms of content, >> but searching and finding the content is a real PITA. We need to focus on >> getting that right. Isuru and I fixed a lot during the last release, but we >> have gaps. RXT docs and LC docs - I mean the config language - are good >> examples, but there are few others - I actually didn't realize the >> intention of some of the issues that were reported, since it said missing >> docs but nothing about the navigation - hence I resolved. I will read and >> reopen/create new ones as needed. >> >> 5. Things that we are not planning to do. We are not accepting major new >> features for the Management Console as per discussion with Sanjiva, Paul, >> Isabelle et al if they better fit in one of the role-based UIs that we are >> developing. The G-Reg Management Console will become a stable piece and >> we'll be focusing on user oriented UIs in the upcoming releases. >> >> Thanks, >> Senaka. >> >> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 8:55 AM, Samisa Abeysinghe wrote: >> >>> I have raised a bunch of Jira based on the stuff I encountered with my >>> Weekend project. >>> >>> I will send a separate note on the scenarios and what I was looking for >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 7:23 AM, Senaka Fernando wrote: >>> Hi Samisa, Harshana was talking about EMF, which I understood as a graphical way to do this in Eclipse, provided that we have a proper schema. From the schema-side of the story, I already created a
Re: [Dev] XML schema for RXT & LC
It seems that you have rushed too much into resolving some issues, rather than getting to the bottom of the problem. It is not at all good to day that we have docs on the stuff, if the user cannot locate them. For e.g. I raised the docs issues on RXT and LC after looking into the docs that Janaka sent, and there were no link or mention whatsoever on the info on what I was looking for as a user. If I look at http://docs.wso2.org/wiki/display/Governance450/Lifecycle+Configuration+Model, there is no single sample on how to use forEvent, on item element, never mentions it is about "state translation" rather than "transitions". So technically, you cannot resolve this issue yet. It needs loads of fixing. I also raised a bunch along these lines in the release cycle, and I noticed that you have resolved those with "won't fix". The issues need to be treated holistically, rather than in isolation. More examples on being holistic is in the original question, if I have schema, and I was told yes, for me to figure, as a user, that required is not behaving the Boolean way, it would have been nice, if it was checked right, before I was pushed into the depth as a user to figure out myself where it is broken. I think it is quite useless to have the feature with all the functionality in place, if the users cannot figure how to use them. So it is good to take time and see if the issues are fixed right. The same on the UI, I raised no issues, whatsoever on new UIs. Plus, no matter who has done the policy decisions on what to do or not, if the current UI set does not work for users, the bottom line is, you got to fix them - meet the user needs, rather than keeping to policies. What I did was an end to end scenario, involving RXT plus LC. I could not go much distance, without asking many questions or raising a bunch of issues. That is bad, so take it slow! On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 10:39 AM, Senaka Fernando wrote: > Hi Samisa, > > Thanks. I reviewed the list of issues you created. There are few different > types. > > 1. Clear misses in functionality - I mean we don't have those, or never > tested those and missed totally. > > 2. Already reported issues (like support for date field). I resolved these > as duplicate with reference to the old. > > 3. Issues due to not having the proper thing. Like the RXT UI, which is > still not done. There is a separate issue on creating an RXT UI like the LC > UI, to which I pointed your issues to. > > 4. Issues in documentation. The docs are complete in terms of content, but > searching and finding the content is a real PITA. We need to focus on > getting that right. Isuru and I fixed a lot during the last release, but we > have gaps. RXT docs and LC docs - I mean the config language - are good > examples, but there are few others - I actually didn't realize the > intention of some of the issues that were reported, since it said missing > docs but nothing about the navigation - hence I resolved. I will read and > reopen/create new ones as needed. > > 5. Things that we are not planning to do. We are not accepting major new > features for the Management Console as per discussion with Sanjiva, Paul, > Isabelle et al if they better fit in one of the role-based UIs that we are > developing. The G-Reg Management Console will become a stable piece and > we'll be focusing on user oriented UIs in the upcoming releases. > > Thanks, > Senaka. > > On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 8:55 AM, Samisa Abeysinghe wrote: > >> I have raised a bunch of Jira based on the stuff I encountered with my >> Weekend project. >> >> I will send a separate note on the scenarios and what I was looking for >> >> >> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 7:23 AM, Senaka Fernando wrote: >> >>> Hi Samisa, >>> >>> Harshana was talking about EMF, which I understood as a graphical way to >>> do this in Eclipse, provided that we have a proper schema. >>> >>> From the schema-side of the story, I already created an issue, [1]. We >>> have not been doing very detailed use-case-vise testing during chunk1. But, >>> ever since we have gathered and fixed many such issues. I believe that we >>> can fixes all or most of these issues in the 4.5.x series. >>> >>> [1] https://wso2.org/jira/browse/REGISTRY-1362 >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Senaka. >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 6:22 AM, Samisa Abeysinghe wrote: >>> On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 11:58 PM, Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote: > Samisa if there's a schema then we can use the Eclipse editor to get > content assist etc. to help edit the RXT files. Yes, but still I have to edit XML - which I did, and which is not that nice, when you are alien to the syntax and semantics. Also, I happened to few trivial errors like using '&' in descriptions, that it took time for me to figure. When I said a tool, I hope those would be covered. Plus, I found gaps in the schema definition, which makes it almost impossible to live with the schema given. It seems
Re: [Dev] XML schema for RXT & LC
Hi Samisa, Thanks. I reviewed the list of issues you created. There are few different types. 1. Clear misses in functionality - I mean we don't have those, or never tested those and missed totally. 2. Already reported issues (like support for date field). I resolved these as duplicate with reference to the old. 3. Issues due to not having the proper thing. Like the RXT UI, which is still not done. There is a separate issue on creating an RXT UI like the LC UI, to which I pointed your issues to. 4. Issues in documentation. The docs are complete in terms of content, but searching and finding the content is a real PITA. We need to focus on getting that right. Isuru and I fixed a lot during the last release, but we have gaps. RXT docs and LC docs - I mean the config language - are good examples, but there are few others - I actually didn't realize the intention of some of the issues that were reported, since it said missing docs but nothing about the navigation - hence I resolved. I will read and reopen/create new ones as needed. 5. Things that we are not planning to do. We are not accepting major new features for the Management Console as per discussion with Sanjiva, Paul, Isabelle et al if they better fit in one of the role-based UIs that we are developing. The G-Reg Management Console will become a stable piece and we'll be focusing on user oriented UIs in the upcoming releases. Thanks, Senaka. On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 8:55 AM, Samisa Abeysinghe wrote: > I have raised a bunch of Jira based on the stuff I encountered with my > Weekend project. > > I will send a separate note on the scenarios and what I was looking for > > > On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 7:23 AM, Senaka Fernando wrote: > >> Hi Samisa, >> >> Harshana was talking about EMF, which I understood as a graphical way to >> do this in Eclipse, provided that we have a proper schema. >> >> From the schema-side of the story, I already created an issue, [1]. We >> have not been doing very detailed use-case-vise testing during chunk1. But, >> ever since we have gathered and fixed many such issues. I believe that we >> can fixes all or most of these issues in the 4.5.x series. >> >> [1] https://wso2.org/jira/browse/REGISTRY-1362 >> >> Thanks, >> Senaka. >> >> >> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 6:22 AM, Samisa Abeysinghe wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 11:58 PM, Sanjiva Weerawarana >>> wrote: >>> Samisa if there's a schema then we can use the Eclipse editor to get content assist etc. to help edit the RXT files. >>> >>> >>> Yes, but still I have to edit XML - which I did, and which is not that >>> nice, when you are alien to the syntax and semantics. >>> Also, I happened to few trivial errors like using '&' in descriptions, >>> that it took time for me to figure. When I said a tool, I hope those would >>> be covered. >>> >>> Plus, I found gaps in the schema definition, which makes it almost >>> impossible to live with the schema given. It seems as if the schema is had >>> written, and not in sync with the Java code that is evaluating the RXT that >>> I am providing. I had to do quite a bit of trial and error to figure what >>> the right syntax is. So we need to do a proper language test on this >>> feature. And that has nothing to do with tooling. >>> >>> On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 10:13 AM, Samisa Abeysinghe wrote: > > > On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 10:10 AM, Senaka Fernando wrote: > >> Hi Samisa, >> >> Harshana and the team is already working on getting the tool side of >> it sorted out. Also, we have a road-map item to have a add-RXT page like >> the add-LC page. >> > > Unfortunately, the story is half baked without provision of these > tooling and supporting aspects. > > I wonder what the priorities are on the road-map aspects - in the > global optima, not in the local optima. > > > >> >> Thanks, >> Senaka. >> >> >> On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 9:56 AM, Samisa Abeysinghe wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 9:43 AM, Senaka Fernando wrote: >>> Hi all, I think we should improve the docs to have this as a side note or even a sample (as to how to use the XSD to generate LC or RXT). I will work on getting this done. >>> >>> Well, actually, it is neither the doc nor the schema that we should >>> have, as that is tech detail. As a user, I would not care as long as I >>> have >>> a tool to easily define RXTs. That would solve lot of problems. >>> >>> >>> Thanks, Senaka. On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 9:26 AM, Eranda Sooriyabandara < era...@wso2.com> wrote: > Hi Samisa > > On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 9:19 AM, Samisa Abeysinghe > wrote: > >> Do we have schema defined for $subject? >> >> I am trying to see how
Re: [Dev] XML schema for RXT & LC
I have raised a bunch of Jira based on the stuff I encountered with my Weekend project. I will send a separate note on the scenarios and what I was looking for On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 7:23 AM, Senaka Fernando wrote: > Hi Samisa, > > Harshana was talking about EMF, which I understood as a graphical way to > do this in Eclipse, provided that we have a proper schema. > > From the schema-side of the story, I already created an issue, [1]. We > have not been doing very detailed use-case-vise testing during chunk1. But, > ever since we have gathered and fixed many such issues. I believe that we > can fixes all or most of these issues in the 4.5.x series. > > [1] https://wso2.org/jira/browse/REGISTRY-1362 > > Thanks, > Senaka. > > > On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 6:22 AM, Samisa Abeysinghe wrote: > >> >> >> On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 11:58 PM, Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote: >> >>> Samisa if there's a schema then we can use the Eclipse editor to get >>> content assist etc. to help edit the RXT files. >> >> >> Yes, but still I have to edit XML - which I did, and which is not that >> nice, when you are alien to the syntax and semantics. >> Also, I happened to few trivial errors like using '&' in descriptions, >> that it took time for me to figure. When I said a tool, I hope those would >> be covered. >> >> Plus, I found gaps in the schema definition, which makes it almost >> impossible to live with the schema given. It seems as if the schema is had >> written, and not in sync with the Java code that is evaluating the RXT that >> I am providing. I had to do quite a bit of trial and error to figure what >> the right syntax is. So we need to do a proper language test on this >> feature. And that has nothing to do with tooling. >> >> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 10:13 AM, Samisa Abeysinghe wrote: >>> On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 10:10 AM, Senaka Fernando wrote: > Hi Samisa, > > Harshana and the team is already working on getting the tool side of > it sorted out. Also, we have a road-map item to have a add-RXT page like > the add-LC page. > Unfortunately, the story is half baked without provision of these tooling and supporting aspects. I wonder what the priorities are on the road-map aspects - in the global optima, not in the local optima. > > Thanks, > Senaka. > > > On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 9:56 AM, Samisa Abeysinghe wrote: > >> >> >> On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 9:43 AM, Senaka Fernando wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I think we should improve the docs to have this as a side note or >>> even a sample (as to how to use the XSD to generate LC or RXT). I will >>> work >>> on getting this done. >>> >> >> Well, actually, it is neither the doc nor the schema that we should >> have, as that is tech detail. As a user, I would not care as long as I >> have >> a tool to easily define RXTs. That would solve lot of problems. >> >> >> >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Senaka. >>> >>> On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 9:26 AM, Eranda Sooriyabandara < >>> era...@wso2.com> wrote: >>> Hi Samisa On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 9:19 AM, Samisa Abeysinghe wrote: > Do we have schema defined for $subject? > > I am trying to see how I could do the least work and generate the > RXT that I want, plus the LC for that. > > > Yes, they are defined. You can find them in CARBON_HOME/repository/resource/rxt.xsd and CARBON_HOME/repository/resource/lifecycle-config.xsd. thanks Eranda * * ___ Dev mailing list Dev@wso2.org http://wso2.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dev >>> >>> >>> -- >>> *Senaka Fernando* >>> Member - Integration Technologies Management Committee; >>> Technical Lead; WSO2 Inc.; http://wso2.com* >>> Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://apache.org >>> >>> E-mail: senaka AT wso2.com >>> **P: +1 408 754 7388; ext: 51736*; *M: +94 77 322 1818 >>> Linked-In: http://linkedin.com/in/senakafernando >>> >>> *Lean . Enterprise . Middleware >>> >>> Thanks, >> Samisa... >> >> Samisa Abeysinghe >> VP Engineering >> WSO2 Inc. >> http://wso2.com >> http://wso2.org >> >> >> > > > -- > *Senaka Fernando* > Member - Integration Technologies Management Committee; > Technical Lead; WSO2 Inc.; http://wso2.com* > Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://apache.org > > E-mail: senaka AT wso2.com > **P: +1 408 754 7388; ext: 51736*; *M: +94 77 322 1818 > Linked-In: http://linkedin.com/in/senakafernando > > *Lean . Enterprise . Middleware > > Thanks,
Re: [Dev] XML schema for RXT & LC
Hi Samisa, Harshana was talking about EMF, which I understood as a graphical way to do this in Eclipse, provided that we have a proper schema. >From the schema-side of the story, I already created an issue, [1]. We have not been doing very detailed use-case-vise testing during chunk1. But, ever since we have gathered and fixed many such issues. I believe that we can fixes all or most of these issues in the 4.5.x series. [1] https://wso2.org/jira/browse/REGISTRY-1362 Thanks, Senaka. On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 6:22 AM, Samisa Abeysinghe wrote: > > > On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 11:58 PM, Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote: > >> Samisa if there's a schema then we can use the Eclipse editor to get >> content assist etc. to help edit the RXT files. > > > Yes, but still I have to edit XML - which I did, and which is not that > nice, when you are alien to the syntax and semantics. > Also, I happened to few trivial errors like using '&' in descriptions, > that it took time for me to figure. When I said a tool, I hope those would > be covered. > > Plus, I found gaps in the schema definition, which makes it almost > impossible to live with the schema given. It seems as if the schema is had > written, and not in sync with the Java code that is evaluating the RXT that > I am providing. I had to do quite a bit of trial and error to figure what > the right syntax is. So we need to do a proper language test on this > feature. And that has nothing to do with tooling. > > >> >> >> On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 10:13 AM, Samisa Abeysinghe wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 10:10 AM, Senaka Fernando wrote: >>> Hi Samisa, Harshana and the team is already working on getting the tool side of it sorted out. Also, we have a road-map item to have a add-RXT page like the add-LC page. >>> >>> Unfortunately, the story is half baked without provision of these >>> tooling and supporting aspects. >>> >>> I wonder what the priorities are on the road-map aspects - in the global >>> optima, not in the local optima. >>> >>> >>> Thanks, Senaka. On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 9:56 AM, Samisa Abeysinghe wrote: > > > On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 9:43 AM, Senaka Fernando wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> I think we should improve the docs to have this as a side note or >> even a sample (as to how to use the XSD to generate LC or RXT). I will >> work >> on getting this done. >> > > Well, actually, it is neither the doc nor the schema that we should > have, as that is tech detail. As a user, I would not care as long as I > have > a tool to easily define RXTs. That would solve lot of problems. > > > >> >> Thanks, >> Senaka. >> >> On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 9:26 AM, Eranda Sooriyabandara < >> era...@wso2.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi Samisa >>> >>> On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 9:19 AM, Samisa Abeysinghe >>> wrote: >>> Do we have schema defined for $subject? I am trying to see how I could do the least work and generate the RXT that I want, plus the LC for that. Yes, they are defined. You can find them in >>> CARBON_HOME/repository/resource/rxt.xsd >>> and CARBON_HOME/repository/resource/lifecycle-config.xsd. >>> >>> thanks >>> Eranda >>> * >>> * >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Dev mailing list >>> Dev@wso2.org >>> http://wso2.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dev >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> *Senaka Fernando* >> Member - Integration Technologies Management Committee; >> Technical Lead; WSO2 Inc.; http://wso2.com* >> Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://apache.org >> >> E-mail: senaka AT wso2.com >> **P: +1 408 754 7388; ext: 51736*; *M: +94 77 322 1818 >> Linked-In: http://linkedin.com/in/senakafernando >> >> *Lean . Enterprise . Middleware >> >> Thanks, > Samisa... > > Samisa Abeysinghe > VP Engineering > WSO2 Inc. > http://wso2.com > http://wso2.org > > > -- *Senaka Fernando* Member - Integration Technologies Management Committee; Technical Lead; WSO2 Inc.; http://wso2.com* Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://apache.org E-mail: senaka AT wso2.com **P: +1 408 754 7388; ext: 51736*; *M: +94 77 322 1818 Linked-In: http://linkedin.com/in/senakafernando *Lean . Enterprise . Middleware Thanks, >>> Samisa... >>> >>> Samisa Abeysinghe >>> VP Engineering >>> WSO2 Inc. >>> http://wso2.com >>> http://wso2.org >>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Dev mailing list >>> Dev@wso2.org >>> http://wso2.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dev >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D. >> Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2, Inc.; http://wso2.com/ >> email: sanj...@wso2.co
Re: [Dev] XML schema for RXT & LC
On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 11:58 PM, Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote: > Samisa if there's a schema then we can use the Eclipse editor to get > content assist etc. to help edit the RXT files. Yes, but still I have to edit XML - which I did, and which is not that nice, when you are alien to the syntax and semantics. Also, I happened to few trivial errors like using '&' in descriptions, that it took time for me to figure. When I said a tool, I hope those would be covered. Plus, I found gaps in the schema definition, which makes it almost impossible to live with the schema given. It seems as if the schema is had written, and not in sync with the Java code that is evaluating the RXT that I am providing. I had to do quite a bit of trial and error to figure what the right syntax is. So we need to do a proper language test on this feature. And that has nothing to do with tooling. > > > On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 10:13 AM, Samisa Abeysinghe wrote: > >> >> >> On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 10:10 AM, Senaka Fernando wrote: >> >>> Hi Samisa, >>> >>> Harshana and the team is already working on getting the tool side of it >>> sorted out. Also, we have a road-map item to have a add-RXT page like the >>> add-LC page. >>> >> >> Unfortunately, the story is half baked without provision of these tooling >> and supporting aspects. >> >> I wonder what the priorities are on the road-map aspects - in the global >> optima, not in the local optima. >> >> >> >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Senaka. >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 9:56 AM, Samisa Abeysinghe wrote: >>> On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 9:43 AM, Senaka Fernando wrote: > Hi all, > > I think we should improve the docs to have this as a side note or even > a sample (as to how to use the XSD to generate LC or RXT). I will work on > getting this done. > Well, actually, it is neither the doc nor the schema that we should have, as that is tech detail. As a user, I would not care as long as I have a tool to easily define RXTs. That would solve lot of problems. > > Thanks, > Senaka. > > On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 9:26 AM, Eranda Sooriyabandara > wrote: > >> Hi Samisa >> >> On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 9:19 AM, Samisa Abeysinghe wrote: >> >>> Do we have schema defined for $subject? >>> >>> I am trying to see how I could do the least work and generate the >>> RXT that I want, plus the LC for that. >>> >>> >>> Yes, they are defined. You can find them in >> CARBON_HOME/repository/resource/rxt.xsd >> and CARBON_HOME/repository/resource/lifecycle-config.xsd. >> >> thanks >> Eranda >> * >> * >> >> >> ___ >> Dev mailing list >> Dev@wso2.org >> http://wso2.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dev >> >> > > > -- > *Senaka Fernando* > Member - Integration Technologies Management Committee; > Technical Lead; WSO2 Inc.; http://wso2.com* > Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://apache.org > > E-mail: senaka AT wso2.com > **P: +1 408 754 7388; ext: 51736*; *M: +94 77 322 1818 > Linked-In: http://linkedin.com/in/senakafernando > > *Lean . Enterprise . Middleware > > Thanks, Samisa... Samisa Abeysinghe VP Engineering WSO2 Inc. http://wso2.com http://wso2.org >>> >>> >>> -- >>> *Senaka Fernando* >>> Member - Integration Technologies Management Committee; >>> Technical Lead; WSO2 Inc.; http://wso2.com* >>> Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://apache.org >>> >>> E-mail: senaka AT wso2.com >>> **P: +1 408 754 7388; ext: 51736*; *M: +94 77 322 1818 >>> Linked-In: http://linkedin.com/in/senakafernando >>> >>> *Lean . Enterprise . Middleware >>> >>> Thanks, >> Samisa... >> >> Samisa Abeysinghe >> VP Engineering >> WSO2 Inc. >> http://wso2.com >> http://wso2.org >> >> >> >> ___ >> Dev mailing list >> Dev@wso2.org >> http://wso2.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dev >> >> > > > -- > Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D. > Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2, Inc.; http://wso2.com/ > email: sanj...@wso2.com; phone: +94 11 763 9614; cell: +94 77 787 6880 | +1 > 650 265 8311 > blog: http://sanjiva.weerawarana.org/ > > > Lean . Enterprise . Middleware > Thanks, Samisa... Samisa Abeysinghe VP Engineering WSO2 Inc. http://wso2.com http://wso2.org ___ Dev mailing list Dev@wso2.org http://wso2.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dev
Re: [Dev] XML schema for RXT & LC
Samisa if there's a schema then we can use the Eclipse editor to get content assist etc. to help edit the RXT files. On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 10:13 AM, Samisa Abeysinghe wrote: > > > On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 10:10 AM, Senaka Fernando wrote: > >> Hi Samisa, >> >> Harshana and the team is already working on getting the tool side of it >> sorted out. Also, we have a road-map item to have a add-RXT page like the >> add-LC page. >> > > Unfortunately, the story is half baked without provision of these tooling > and supporting aspects. > > I wonder what the priorities are on the road-map aspects - in the global > optima, not in the local optima. > > > >> >> Thanks, >> Senaka. >> >> >> On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 9:56 AM, Samisa Abeysinghe wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 9:43 AM, Senaka Fernando wrote: >>> Hi all, I think we should improve the docs to have this as a side note or even a sample (as to how to use the XSD to generate LC or RXT). I will work on getting this done. >>> >>> Well, actually, it is neither the doc nor the schema that we should >>> have, as that is tech detail. As a user, I would not care as long as I have >>> a tool to easily define RXTs. That would solve lot of problems. >>> >>> >>> Thanks, Senaka. On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 9:26 AM, Eranda Sooriyabandara wrote: > Hi Samisa > > On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 9:19 AM, Samisa Abeysinghe wrote: > >> Do we have schema defined for $subject? >> >> I am trying to see how I could do the least work and generate the RXT >> that I want, plus the LC for that. >> >> >> Yes, they are defined. You can find them in > CARBON_HOME/repository/resource/rxt.xsd > and CARBON_HOME/repository/resource/lifecycle-config.xsd. > > thanks > Eranda > * > * > > > ___ > Dev mailing list > Dev@wso2.org > http://wso2.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dev > > -- *Senaka Fernando* Member - Integration Technologies Management Committee; Technical Lead; WSO2 Inc.; http://wso2.com* Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://apache.org E-mail: senaka AT wso2.com **P: +1 408 754 7388; ext: 51736*; *M: +94 77 322 1818 Linked-In: http://linkedin.com/in/senakafernando *Lean . Enterprise . Middleware Thanks, >>> Samisa... >>> >>> Samisa Abeysinghe >>> VP Engineering >>> WSO2 Inc. >>> http://wso2.com >>> http://wso2.org >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> *Senaka Fernando* >> Member - Integration Technologies Management Committee; >> Technical Lead; WSO2 Inc.; http://wso2.com* >> Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://apache.org >> >> E-mail: senaka AT wso2.com >> **P: +1 408 754 7388; ext: 51736*; *M: +94 77 322 1818 >> Linked-In: http://linkedin.com/in/senakafernando >> >> *Lean . Enterprise . Middleware >> >> Thanks, > Samisa... > > Samisa Abeysinghe > VP Engineering > WSO2 Inc. > http://wso2.com > http://wso2.org > > > > ___ > Dev mailing list > Dev@wso2.org > http://wso2.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dev > > -- Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D. Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2, Inc.; http://wso2.com/ email: sanj...@wso2.com; phone: +94 11 763 9614; cell: +94 77 787 6880 | +1 650 265 8311 blog: http://sanjiva.weerawarana.org/ Lean . Enterprise . Middleware ___ Dev mailing list Dev@wso2.org http://wso2.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dev
Re: [Dev] XML schema for RXT & LC
On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 10:10 AM, Senaka Fernando wrote: > Hi Samisa, > > Harshana and the team is already working on getting the tool side of it > sorted out. Also, we have a road-map item to have a add-RXT page like the > add-LC page. > Unfortunately, the story is half baked without provision of these tooling and supporting aspects. I wonder what the priorities are on the road-map aspects - in the global optima, not in the local optima. > > Thanks, > Senaka. > > > On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 9:56 AM, Samisa Abeysinghe wrote: > >> >> >> On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 9:43 AM, Senaka Fernando wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I think we should improve the docs to have this as a side note or even a >>> sample (as to how to use the XSD to generate LC or RXT). I will work on >>> getting this done. >>> >> >> Well, actually, it is neither the doc nor the schema that we should have, >> as that is tech detail. As a user, I would not care as long as I have a >> tool to easily define RXTs. That would solve lot of problems. >> >> >> >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Senaka. >>> >>> On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 9:26 AM, Eranda Sooriyabandara >>> wrote: >>> Hi Samisa On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 9:19 AM, Samisa Abeysinghe wrote: > Do we have schema defined for $subject? > > I am trying to see how I could do the least work and generate the RXT > that I want, plus the LC for that. > > > Yes, they are defined. You can find them in CARBON_HOME/repository/resource/rxt.xsd and CARBON_HOME/repository/resource/lifecycle-config.xsd. thanks Eranda * * ___ Dev mailing list Dev@wso2.org http://wso2.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dev >>> >>> >>> -- >>> *Senaka Fernando* >>> Member - Integration Technologies Management Committee; >>> Technical Lead; WSO2 Inc.; http://wso2.com* >>> Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://apache.org >>> >>> E-mail: senaka AT wso2.com >>> **P: +1 408 754 7388; ext: 51736*; *M: +94 77 322 1818 >>> Linked-In: http://linkedin.com/in/senakafernando >>> >>> *Lean . Enterprise . Middleware >>> >>> Thanks, >> Samisa... >> >> Samisa Abeysinghe >> VP Engineering >> WSO2 Inc. >> http://wso2.com >> http://wso2.org >> >> >> > > > -- > *Senaka Fernando* > Member - Integration Technologies Management Committee; > Technical Lead; WSO2 Inc.; http://wso2.com* > Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://apache.org > > E-mail: senaka AT wso2.com > **P: +1 408 754 7388; ext: 51736*; *M: +94 77 322 1818 > Linked-In: http://linkedin.com/in/senakafernando > > *Lean . Enterprise . Middleware > > Thanks, Samisa... Samisa Abeysinghe VP Engineering WSO2 Inc. http://wso2.com http://wso2.org ___ Dev mailing list Dev@wso2.org http://wso2.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dev
Re: [Dev] XML schema for RXT & LC
Hi Samisa, Harshana and the team is already working on getting the tool side of it sorted out. Also, we have a road-map item to have a add-RXT page like the add-LC page. Thanks, Senaka. On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 9:56 AM, Samisa Abeysinghe wrote: > > > On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 9:43 AM, Senaka Fernando wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> I think we should improve the docs to have this as a side note or even a >> sample (as to how to use the XSD to generate LC or RXT). I will work on >> getting this done. >> > > Well, actually, it is neither the doc nor the schema that we should have, > as that is tech detail. As a user, I would not care as long as I have a > tool to easily define RXTs. That would solve lot of problems. > > > >> >> Thanks, >> Senaka. >> >> On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 9:26 AM, Eranda Sooriyabandara wrote: >> >>> Hi Samisa >>> >>> On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 9:19 AM, Samisa Abeysinghe wrote: >>> Do we have schema defined for $subject? I am trying to see how I could do the least work and generate the RXT that I want, plus the LC for that. Yes, they are defined. You can find them in >>> CARBON_HOME/repository/resource/rxt.xsd >>> and CARBON_HOME/repository/resource/lifecycle-config.xsd. >>> >>> thanks >>> Eranda >>> * >>> * >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Dev mailing list >>> Dev@wso2.org >>> http://wso2.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dev >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> *Senaka Fernando* >> Member - Integration Technologies Management Committee; >> Technical Lead; WSO2 Inc.; http://wso2.com* >> Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://apache.org >> >> E-mail: senaka AT wso2.com >> **P: +1 408 754 7388; ext: 51736*; *M: +94 77 322 1818 >> Linked-In: http://linkedin.com/in/senakafernando >> >> *Lean . Enterprise . Middleware >> >> Thanks, > Samisa... > > Samisa Abeysinghe > VP Engineering > WSO2 Inc. > http://wso2.com > http://wso2.org > > > -- *Senaka Fernando* Member - Integration Technologies Management Committee; Technical Lead; WSO2 Inc.; http://wso2.com* Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://apache.org E-mail: senaka AT wso2.com **P: +1 408 754 7388; ext: 51736*; *M: +94 77 322 1818 Linked-In: http://linkedin.com/in/senakafernando *Lean . Enterprise . Middleware ___ Dev mailing list Dev@wso2.org http://wso2.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dev
Re: [Dev] XML schema for RXT & LC
On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 9:43 AM, Senaka Fernando wrote: > Hi all, > > I think we should improve the docs to have this as a side note or even a > sample (as to how to use the XSD to generate LC or RXT). I will work on > getting this done. > Well, actually, it is neither the doc nor the schema that we should have, as that is tech detail. As a user, I would not care as long as I have a tool to easily define RXTs. That would solve lot of problems. > > Thanks, > Senaka. > > On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 9:26 AM, Eranda Sooriyabandara wrote: > >> Hi Samisa >> >> On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 9:19 AM, Samisa Abeysinghe wrote: >> >>> Do we have schema defined for $subject? >>> >>> I am trying to see how I could do the least work and generate the RXT >>> that I want, plus the LC for that. >>> >>> >>> Yes, they are defined. You can find them in >> CARBON_HOME/repository/resource/rxt.xsd >> and CARBON_HOME/repository/resource/lifecycle-config.xsd. >> >> thanks >> Eranda >> * >> * >> >> >> ___ >> Dev mailing list >> Dev@wso2.org >> http://wso2.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dev >> >> > > > -- > *Senaka Fernando* > Member - Integration Technologies Management Committee; > Technical Lead; WSO2 Inc.; http://wso2.com* > Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://apache.org > > E-mail: senaka AT wso2.com > **P: +1 408 754 7388; ext: 51736*; *M: +94 77 322 1818 > Linked-In: http://linkedin.com/in/senakafernando > > *Lean . Enterprise . Middleware > > Thanks, Samisa... Samisa Abeysinghe VP Engineering WSO2 Inc. http://wso2.com http://wso2.org ___ Dev mailing list Dev@wso2.org http://wso2.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dev
Re: [Dev] XML schema for RXT & LC
Hi all, I think we should improve the docs to have this as a side note or even a sample (as to how to use the XSD to generate LC or RXT). I will work on getting this done. Thanks, Senaka. On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 9:26 AM, Eranda Sooriyabandara wrote: > Hi Samisa > > On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 9:19 AM, Samisa Abeysinghe wrote: > >> Do we have schema defined for $subject? >> >> I am trying to see how I could do the least work and generate the RXT >> that I want, plus the LC for that. >> >> >> Yes, they are defined. You can find them in > CARBON_HOME/repository/resource/rxt.xsd > and CARBON_HOME/repository/resource/lifecycle-config.xsd. > > thanks > Eranda > * > * > > > ___ > Dev mailing list > Dev@wso2.org > http://wso2.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dev > > -- *Senaka Fernando* Member - Integration Technologies Management Committee; Technical Lead; WSO2 Inc.; http://wso2.com* Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://apache.org E-mail: senaka AT wso2.com **P: +1 408 754 7388; ext: 51736*; *M: +94 77 322 1818 Linked-In: http://linkedin.com/in/senakafernando *Lean . Enterprise . Middleware ___ Dev mailing list Dev@wso2.org http://wso2.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dev
Re: [Dev] XML schema for RXT & LC
Hi Samisa On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 9:19 AM, Samisa Abeysinghe wrote: > Do we have schema defined for $subject? > > I am trying to see how I could do the least work and generate the RXT that > I want, plus the LC for that. > > > Yes, they are defined. You can find them in CARBON_HOME/repository/resource/rxt.xsd and CARBON_HOME/repository/resource/lifecycle-config.xsd. thanks Eranda * * ___ Dev mailing list Dev@wso2.org http://wso2.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dev
[Dev] XML schema for RXT & LC
Do we have schema defined for $subject? I am trying to see how I could do the least work and generate the RXT that I want, plus the LC for that. Thanks, Samisa... Samisa Abeysinghe VP Engineering WSO2 Inc. http://wso2.com http://wso2.org ___ Dev mailing list Dev@wso2.org http://wso2.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dev
