Re: Extensions and Gecko specific APIs

2017-07-26 Thread Steve Wendt

On 7/26/2017 4:27 PM, Steve Fink wrote:


it's a bold move that says we're willing to take the painful hit of
pissing off addon authors and users


That has certainly happened...


But to make the sacrifice worthwhile, that means we have to *be* a
high quality product. One with a competitive edge. Which means that
people have a reason to choose us over the alternatives. And while we
can and should look for other ways of doing that, via activity
streams or privacy or Accounts or better tab handling, our historical
edge has been extensibility and customizability. Firefox is sticky
because people can make it do what they want, things that they come
to depend on enough that they feel like they're missing out by
switching browsers. (Even if people don't *actually* make use of it,
knowing that the capability is there is powerful.)


Indeed.  Many of the changes the last few years have left a lot of users 
asking "if they are just copying Chrome, why shouldn't we switch to 
that?"  I think "extensibility and customizability" is what kept many 
people from doing so, and now some of that is going away...

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Re: OS/2 still supported ?

2017-07-25 Thread Steve Wendt

On 7/25/2017 8:40 PM, Ralph Giles wrote:


libvpx is maintained upstream and updated periodically, so there's no
point making changes if they're not also accepted upstream.


The remaining OS/2 users would definitely not appreciate a crusade to 
kill support for that platform in upstream projects (including NSS and 
NSPR).  :-p


For what it's worth - there was a new OS/2 distribution / release just a 
couple months ago, as "ArcaOS".

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Re: OS/2 still supported ?

2017-07-25 Thread Steve Wendt

On 7/25/2017 7:28 AM, Jeff Muizelaar wrote:


The only remaining in-tree references to the XP_OS2 macros are in
NSPR and NSS, which are technically separate projects, and have
their own sets of supported platforms.


The cairo stuff is from an upstream project and not worth removing.


Likewise for libvpx and libffi?
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Re: Data migration from ftp.mozilla.org to S3, 1pm Pacific Tuesday 20th October

2015-10-21 Thread Steve Wendt

On 10/21/2015 2:33 AM, Nick Thomas wrote:


although we encourage people to move to https://archive.mozilla.org.


The column header sorting (e.g. ?C=M;O=D) has been broken for a couple 
weeks, and I see that both firefox and thunderbird don't even show dates 
in the listings any more:

http://archive.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/

SeaMonkey still has the nicer output, but with the broken sorting:
http://archive.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/releases/?C=M;O=D

Will this be fixed, or is it going to continue to be a worse experience 
than it ever was with FTP?


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