Re: W3C Proposed Recommendation: HTML5 Web Messaging

2015-05-04 Thread L. David Baron
On Wednesday 2015-04-08 17:03 -0700, L. David Baron wrote:
 W3C recently published the following proposed recommendation (the
 stage before W3C's final stage, Recommendation):
 
   HTML5 Web Messaging
   http://www.w3.org/TR/webmessaging/
 
 There's a call for review to W3C member companies (of which Mozilla
 is one) open until Tuesday, May 5.
 
 If there are comments you think Mozilla should send as part of the
 review, or if you think Mozilla should voice support or opposition
 to the specification, please say so in this thread.  (I'd note,
 however, that there have been many previous opportunities to make
 comments, so it's somewhat bad form to bring up fundamental issues
 for the first time at this stage.)
 
 This is a specification that's the W3C version of a piece of the
 WHATWG HTML specification.  It appears (from looking at code) to be
 something we implement, although I'm not sure if there are
 differences between the W3C and WHATWG versions, and I don't know
 anything about the status of our implementation.

So based on a quick look, it seems like the spec pretty closely
matches the relevant parts of the WHATWG HTML specification:
https://html.spec.whatwg.org/multipage/comms.html (sections 9.1,
9.4, and 9.5).

Given the lack of any other comments, and the fact that we appear to
basically implement the spec (although we haven't quite kept up with
the latest changes, e.g., the addition of initMessageEvent), I'm
inclined to vote in favor without comments.  (Also see the test
suite results at https://w3c.github.io/test-results/webmessaging/all
.)

-David


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Re: W3C Proposed Recommendation: HTML5 Web Messaging

2015-04-09 Thread openw3c
On Wednesday, April 8, 2015 at 8:03:45 PM UTC-4, L. David Baron wrote:

 This is a specification that's the W3C version of a piece of the
 WHATWG HTML specification.  It appears (from looking at code) to be
 something we implement, although I'm not sure if there are
 differences between the W3C and WHATWG versions, and I don't know
 anything about the status of our implementation.

In WebApps' Call for Consensus to publish the Web Messaging Proposed 
Recommendation I mentioned the status of this spec vis-a-vis the WHATWG version:

[[
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2015JanMar/0848.html

Cindy created a Draft PR [PR] that includes Hixie's updates since the 
[CR] was published (but not the PortCollection interface [PC] which is 
not broadly implemented). Overall, we consider the changes since the CR 
as non-substantive bug fixes and clarifications that align the spec with 
current implementations, and that the test suite tests the updated spec. 
See [Diff] for all of changes between the CR and the draft PR and note 
the draft PR's status section includes a short summary of the changes.

[PR] http://www.w3.org/TR/2015/PR-webmessaging-20150407/
[CR] http://www.w3.org/TR/2012/CR-webmessaging-20120501/
[PC] http://dev.w3.org/html5/postmsg/#broadcasting-to-many-ports
[Diff] https://www.diffchecker.com/qswiibb5
]]

Regarding the Firefox implementation of this spec, Firefox is included in the 
Implementation Report 
http://w3c.github.io/test-results/webmessaging/all.html, and generally 
speaking does very well.

-HTH, ArtB
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W3C Proposed Recommendation: HTML5 Web Messaging

2015-04-08 Thread L. David Baron
W3C recently published the following proposed recommendation (the
stage before W3C's final stage, Recommendation):

  HTML5 Web Messaging
  http://www.w3.org/TR/webmessaging/

There's a call for review to W3C member companies (of which Mozilla
is one) open until Tuesday, May 5.

If there are comments you think Mozilla should send as part of the
review, or if you think Mozilla should voice support or opposition
to the specification, please say so in this thread.  (I'd note,
however, that there have been many previous opportunities to make
comments, so it's somewhat bad form to bring up fundamental issues
for the first time at this stage.)

This is a specification that's the W3C version of a piece of the
WHATWG HTML specification.  It appears (from looking at code) to be
something we implement, although I'm not sure if there are
differences between the W3C and WHATWG versions, and I don't know
anything about the status of our implementation.

-David

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