RE: IP Validation using method 3.2.2.5 (4) "any other method"

2018-01-30 Thread Tim Hollebeek via dev-security-policy
Good point.  If you want your method preserved, please send it to one of the 
CA/Browser forum lists.



-Tim



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Subject: Re: IP Validation using method 3.2.2.5 (4) "any other method"







On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 10:37 AM, Tim Hollebeek via dev-security-policy 
mailto:dev-security-policy@lists.mozilla.org> > wrote:



I'm sending this to this list because CAs are required to monitor this list,
and I need to get feedback from smaller and more obscure CAs.



The validation working group is thinking about proposing removal of 3.2.2.5
(4) in the near future.  If you are currently using that method to validate
IP certificates, please reply with the details of what you are doing so the
procedure can be examined and potentially added to the Baseline Requirements
as a valid method for validating IP certificates.  FAILURE TO DO SO MAY
RESULT IN YOUR METHOD BECOMING NON-COMPLIANT WITH LITTLE OR NO NOTICE.



Just a note: Replying with those details to *this* list won't offer the 
CA/Browser Forum's IP protections.



I would instead suggest that CAs that do not participate in the CA/Browser 
Forum, but use this method, join the CA/Browser Forum and contribute such 
methods. The failure to disclose in a way that is agreed upon by the IP policy 
of the CA/Browser Forum is a reasonably high enough risk that it should be 
prevented from adding it to the CA/Browser Forum documents.





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Re: IP Validation using method 3.2.2.5 (4) "any other method"

2018-01-30 Thread Ryan Sleevi via dev-security-policy
On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 10:37 AM, Tim Hollebeek via dev-security-policy <
dev-security-policy@lists.mozilla.org> wrote:

>
>
> I'm sending this to this list because CAs are required to monitor this
> list,
> and I need to get feedback from smaller and more obscure CAs.
>
>
>
> The validation working group is thinking about proposing removal of 3.2.2.5
> (4) in the near future.  If you are currently using that method to validate
> IP certificates, please reply with the details of what you are doing so the
> procedure can be examined and potentially added to the Baseline
> Requirements
> as a valid method for validating IP certificates.  FAILURE TO DO SO MAY
> RESULT IN YOUR METHOD BECOMING NON-COMPLIANT WITH LITTLE OR NO NOTICE.
>

Just a note: Replying with those details to *this* list won't offer the
CA/Browser Forum's IP protections.

I would instead suggest that CAs that do not participate in the CA/Browser
Forum, but use this method, join the CA/Browser Forum and contribute such
methods. The failure to disclose in a way that is agreed upon by the IP
policy of the CA/Browser Forum is a reasonably high enough risk that it
should be prevented from adding it to the CA/Browser Forum documents.
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