Re: [dev-servo] Student Project

2016-01-10 Thread Nicolas Silva 
Anyone interested in implementing WebAudio and/or WebRTC (in Gecko
there's some overlap in the underlying infrastructure) should first
spend some time discussing the architecture with Paul Adenot (look for
padenot on irc). Having a competitive or even just decent WebAudio
implementation is more complex than it looks, and Gecko's implementation
had to go through massive rewrites before it got to a satisfying place.
According to Paul it's not the kind of architecture one gets right the
first time without some serious experience in audio engines.
That said, it would be great to have a WebAudio implementation in rust,
and I am sure the rust gamedev community would be thrilled to have
something like this!

Nical

On Sat, Jan 9, 2016, at 07:18 PM, Emilio Cobos Álvarez wrote:
> WebAudio could also be a good fit IMHO.
> 
> There's a tracking issue[1], and a WIP kickoff implementation by
> dmarcos[2].
> 
> [1]: https://github.com/servo/servo/issues/6710
> [2]:
> https://github.com/servo/servo/compare/master...dmarcos:webaudio-kickoff
> 
> Cheers:
> Emilio
> 
> On Wed, Jan 06, 2016 at 02:10:04PM -0500, Josh Matthews wrote:
> > Hi Radu! Of the projects listed in your message, only the focus, form
> > validation, and image load projects are still unclaimed and valuable. That
> > being said, what are the academic requirements for your project? What's the
> > timeline for working on it?
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > Josh
> > 
> > On 2016-01-05 8:09 PM, Radu Manole wrote:
> > >Hello,
> > >
> > >my name is Radu Manole I would like to participate in a student project. I
> > >would like to take part of the contribution team for servo project by using
> > >one of your proposed projects as my bachelor's degree.
> > >
> > >Are these still open?
> > >
> > >*https://github.com/servo/servo/wiki/Developer-tools-student-project*
> > >
> > >
> > >*https://github.com/servo/servo/wiki/Focus-student-project*
> > >
> > >
> > >https://github.com/servo/servo/wiki/Form-validation-student-project
> > >
> > >https://github.com/servo/servo/wiki/Image-load-conformance-student-project
> > >
> > >https://github.com/servo/servo/wiki/Prototype-JS-form-controls-student-project
> > >
> > >https://github.com/servo/servo/wiki/Replace-C-libraries-student-project
> > >
> > >https://github.com/servo/servo/wiki/Storage-student-project
> > >
> > >https://github.com/servo/servo/wiki/Webdriver-student-project
> > >
> > >https://github.com/servo/servo/wiki/WebSocket-student-project
> > >
> > >https://github.com/servo/servo/wiki/XML-parser-student-project
> > >
> > >
> > >And are there any other projects for a bachelor’s degree?
> > >
> > >Thanks, Radu.
> > >
> > 
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Re: [dev-servo] Student Project

2016-01-10 Thread Robert O'Callahan 
On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 7:04 AM, Nicolas Silva 
wrote:

> Anyone interested in implementing WebAudio and/or WebRTC (in Gecko
> there's some overlap in the underlying infrastructure) should first
> spend some time discussing the architecture with Paul Adenot (look for
> padenot on irc). Having a competitive or even just decent WebAudio
> implementation is more complex than it looks, and Gecko's implementation
> had to go through massive rewrites before it got to a satisfying place.
> According to Paul it's not the kind of architecture one gets right the
> first time without some serious experience in audio engines.
> That said, it would be great to have a WebAudio implementation in rust,
> and I am sure the rust gamedev community would be thrilled to have
> something like this!
>

Right.

You'd really want to study the architecture of Gecko's implementation and
understand why it is the way it is before attempting this. You'd also want
to understand the architectural changes we're still planning to make. Paul
and I can help with this.

In Gecko MediaStreams and WebAudio are integrated into a single real-time
media graph (well, multiple graphs, one per logical output channel), which
has advantages but means you're designing more than just WebAudio.

If we did have a good WebAudio implementation in Servo it's one piece I
could imagine sharing with Gecko. But it's a lot of work to get to parity.

Rob
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Re: [dev-servo] Student Project

2016-01-10 Thread Ms2ger 
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On 01/10/2016 09:48 PM, Robert O'Callahan wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 7:04 AM, Nicolas Silva
>  wrote:
> 
>> Anyone interested in implementing WebAudio and/or WebRTC (in
>> Gecko there's some overlap in the underlying infrastructure)
>> should first spend some time discussing the architecture with
>> Paul Adenot (look for padenot on irc). Having a competitive or
>> even just decent WebAudio implementation is more complex than it
>> looks, and Gecko's implementation had to go through massive
>> rewrites before it got to a satisfying place. According to Paul
>> it's not the kind of architecture one gets right the first time
>> without some serious experience in audio engines. That said, it
>> would be great to have a WebAudio implementation in rust, and I
>> am sure the rust gamedev community would be thrilled to have 
>> something like this!
>> 
> 
> Right.
> 
> You'd really want to study the architecture of Gecko's
> implementation and understand why it is the way it is before
> attempting this. You'd also want to understand the architectural
> changes we're still planning to make. Paul and I can help with
> this.
> 
> In Gecko MediaStreams and WebAudio are integrated into a single
> real-time media graph (well, multiple graphs, one per logical
> output channel), which has advantages but means you're designing
> more than just WebAudio.
> 
> If we did have a good WebAudio implementation in Servo it's one
> piece I could imagine sharing with Gecko. But it's a lot of work to
> get to parity.
> 

FWIW, the issue () already
says suggests talking to Paul and you, from the last time this was
discussed.

HTH
Ms2ger
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