Re: Mixed HTTPS/non-HTTPS content in IE9 and Chrome 13 dev

2011-05-29 Thread Honza Bambas

On 5/18/2011 1:07 AM, Brian Smith wrote:

See https://twitter.com/#!/scarybeasts/status/69138114794360832: Chrome 13 dev 
channel now blocks certain types of mixed content by default (script, CSS, plug-ins). Let 
me know of any significant breakages.

See https://ie.microsoft.com/testdrive/browser/mixedcontent/assets/woodgrove.htm
IE9: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=11qlnhys=7
Chrome: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=oa4v3ns=7

IE9 blocks all mixed content by default, and allows the user to reload the page 
with the mixed content by pushing a button on its doorhanger (at the bottom of 
the window in IE).

Notice that Chrome shows the scary crossed-out HTTPS in the address bar.

- Brian


This seems to be something we are trying to solve with an opt-in feature 
Http-Strict-Transport-Security (HSTS).  What chrome and IE are trying to 
do is to block insecure content on the client side unconditionally.  Not 
sure how much sites this gonna break, but it is worth to check for what 
they are exactly doing.  I planned to do something similar a year ago, 
but I didn't find much votes and it didn't seem to be a very high 
priority mainly because we have HSTS that is more elegant.


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Re: Mixed HTTPS/non-HTTPS content in IE9 and Chrome 13 dev

2011-05-27 Thread Jean-Marc Desperrier

On 18/05/2011 19:25, Brian Smith wrote:

No, he meant dev.security


I could have been more explicit.


and he cross-posted and set the follow-up
header on his message to point to that newsgroup. I agree that if
there's any discussion, it can/should happen there.


But my message ended up with an incorrect reply-to header, I don't why, 
I'm quite sure I didn't put it. This mail-news gateway is broken in a 
number of way (not least Message-ID that are not guaranteed to be the 
same in the ML and in newsgroups).

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Re: Mixed HTTPS/non-HTTPS content in IE9 and Chrome 13 dev

2011-05-18 Thread Jean-Marc Desperrier

Brian Smith wrote:

See https://twitter.com/#!/scarybeasts/status/69138114794360832:
Chrome 13 dev channel now blocks certain types of mixed content by
default (script, CSS, plug-ins). Let me know of any significant
breakages.

See
https://ie.microsoft.com/testdrive/browser/mixedcontent/assets/woodgrove.htm
 IE9: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=11qlnhys=7
Chrome: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=oa4v3ns=7

IE9 blocks all mixed content by default, and allows the user to
reload the page with the mixed content by pushing a button on its
doorhanger (at the bottom of the window in IE).

Notice that Chrome shows the scary crossed-out HTTPS in the address
bar.


This is actually much more a suject for the .security group, Brian.
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Re: Mixed HTTPS/non-HTTPS content in IE9 and Chrome 13 dev

2011-05-18 Thread Lucas Adamski
You mean the private security group list?  I'm curious why you say that.  
Generally we should discuss as much on public lists as possible, especially new 
features or changes to existing ones.   Security group exists really just to 
discuss issues that we can't publicly, because doing so would put users at 
direct risk.  Thanks!
  Lucas.

On May 18, 2011, at 15:17, Jean-Marc Desperrier jmd...@gmail.com wrote:

 Brian Smith wrote:
 See https://twitter.com/#!/scarybeasts/status/69138114794360832:
 Chrome 13 dev channel now blocks certain types of mixed content by
 default (script, CSS, plug-ins). Let me know of any significant
 breakages.
 
 See
 https://ie.microsoft.com/testdrive/browser/mixedcontent/assets/woodgrove.htm
 IE9: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=11qlnhys=7
 Chrome: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=oa4v3ns=7
 
 IE9 blocks all mixed content by default, and allows the user to
 reload the page with the mixed content by pushing a button on its
 doorhanger (at the bottom of the window in IE).
 
 Notice that Chrome shows the scary crossed-out HTTPS in the address
 bar.
 
 This is actually much more a suject for the .security group, Brian.
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Re: Mixed HTTPS/non-HTTPS content in IE9 and Chrome 13 dev

2011-05-18 Thread Brian Smith
Lucas Adamski wrote:
 You mean the private security group list?

No, he meant dev.security and he cross-posted and set the follow-up header on 
his message to point to that newsgroup. I agree that if there's any discussion, 
it can/should happen there.

- Brian


 I'm curious why you say
 that. Generally we should discuss as much on public lists as possible,
 especially new features or changes to existing ones. Security group
 exists really just to discuss issues that we can't publicly, because
 doing so would put users at direct risk. Thanks!
 Lucas.
 
 On May 18, 2011, at 15:17, Jean-Marc Desperrier jmd...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Brian Smith wrote:
  See https://twitter.com/#!/scarybeasts/status/69138114794360832:
  Chrome 13 dev channel now blocks certain types of mixed content by
  default (script, CSS, plug-ins). Let me know of any significant
  breakages.
 
  See
  https://ie.microsoft.com/testdrive/browser/mixedcontent/assets/woodgrove.htm
  IE9: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=11qlnhys=7
  Chrome: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=oa4v3ns=7
 
  IE9 blocks all mixed content by default, and allows the user to
  reload the page with the mixed content by pushing a button on its
  doorhanger (at the bottom of the window in IE).
 
  Notice that Chrome shows the scary crossed-out HTTPS in the address
  bar.
 
  This is actually much more a suject for the .security group, Brian.
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Mixed HTTPS/non-HTTPS content in IE9 and Chrome 13 dev

2011-05-17 Thread Brian Smith
See https://twitter.com/#!/scarybeasts/status/69138114794360832: Chrome 13 dev 
channel now blocks certain types of mixed content by default (script, CSS, 
plug-ins). Let me know of any significant breakages.

See https://ie.microsoft.com/testdrive/browser/mixedcontent/assets/woodgrove.htm
IE9: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=11qlnhys=7
Chrome: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=oa4v3ns=7

IE9 blocks all mixed content by default, and allows the user to reload the page 
with the mixed content by pushing a button on its doorhanger (at the bottom of 
the window in IE).

Notice that Chrome shows the scary crossed-out HTTPS in the address bar.

- Brian
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