Re: sequence number question
Thanks Nisan, I'll look into that. Nisan Bloch wrote: At 12:41 PM 4/1/03 +0800, Kwok Peng Tuck wrote: I see in the logs(bearerbox) that whenever a submit_sm or deliver_sm is made a sequence_number is also there. I need to be able to tally the submit_sm and deliver_sm. My question then is, if we restart kannel (shutdown, startup) will the sequence_number start from zero ? the sequence no is only there to correlate *_sm and *_sm_resp. If you want to correlate a submit_sm with the deliver_sm then you need to use the msg_id from the submit_sm_resp. nisan Thanks.
Re: sequence number question
At 12:41 PM 4/1/03 +0800, Kwok Peng Tuck wrote: I see in the logs(bearerbox) that whenever a submit_sm or deliver_sm is made a sequence_number is also there. I need to be able to tally the submit_sm and deliver_sm. My question then is, if we restart kannel (shutdown, startup) will the sequence_number start from zero ? the sequence no is only there to correlate *_sm and *_sm_resp. If you want to correlate a submit_sm with the deliver_sm then you need to use the msg_id from the submit_sm_resp. nisan Thanks.
Kannel's entry in the Free Software Directory
Hello! I haven't kept up with this list lately, but I still have fondness for Kannel. I noticed today that Kannel's entry in the Free Software Foundation's directory of free software is a bit outdated. (See http://www.gnu.org/directory/kannel.html). It would be nice to send them a mail with updated information. I tried to do that myself, but I realized halfway through that I don't actually know enough to (for example) describe which WAP features are currently implemented. Things that should be reviewed are: - Latest release numbers (stable and devel) - Link to source tarball should be to latest release (but which one?) - kannel.org or kannel.3glab.org? I know the website has moved but have the mailing lists moved? The Roadmap page still gives the 3glab address, at least. - Does the SMS protocol list need updating? - The paragraph about WAP should mention WAP 1.1 conformance and which parts of later versions have been implemented. - Perhaps ask them to add a link to Kannel's status page? - Add people to the contributor list? I have no idea who :) Also, something seems to have gone wrong with some of the names: Groumlnholm, Syvaumlnen, Seppänen. Here's an opportunity for some free advertising for Kannel :-) Richard Braakman
Re: UCP protocol with GSM modem
> In fact, I would like Kannel to 'deliver' SMS to my terminal > application. Here is the schema: > > Mobile phone -- (submit)--> SMSC ---(deliver)--> Siemens M20 ---> > Kannel --(deliver)--> My PC(UCP API) > > Can you confirm that it's not possible? yes, but not with the current tools. What you need would be a MO-to-MT loop within the scope of bearerbox. Or you could cause smsbox to execute a specific command within sms-service (which then performs the EMI/UCP delivery). The end point you call "My PC(UCP API)". Is this a UCP/EMI SMSC? If yes, then you may construct such bridging, but it would cause some changes within bearerbox processing logic. you could do that by using the get-url sms-service to send the MO SMS data to an HTTP SMSC URL, hence convert it from MO to MT. Stipe [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Wapme Systems AG Vogelsanger Weg 80 40470 Düsseldorf Tel: +49-211-74845-0 Fax: +49-211-74845-299 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet: http://www.wapme-systems.de --- wapme.net - wherever you are
Re: CDR output
> Has anyone implemented a CDR interface on to Kannel. I'm not talking > a billing engine, just something that outputs simple CD records that > can be processed elsewhere ? yes. Bearerbox provides it's own access-log, hence that are your CDR records. Stipe [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Wapme Systems AG Vogelsanger Weg 80 40470 Düsseldorf Tel: +49-211-74845-0 Fax: +49-211-74845-299 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet: http://www.wapme-systems.de --- wapme.net - wherever you are
Re: UCP protocol with GSM modem
Tronet Sarah wrote: > > As far as I know, it is possible to connect Kannel to the mobile network via a GSM > modem (e.g. Siemens M20). > In that case, I would like to connect my terminal application to Kannel via UCP-EMI > protocol as if Kannel was my SMSC in order to receive SMS from the mobile network? Kannel does yet not include server-side implementations of SMSC protocolls, excepts it's HTTP interface provided via smsbox. But this is to come. We have smppbox and emibox which implement the server-sides that will be added as seperate CVS modules to the Kannel reposority in some near future. Stipe [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Wapme Systems AG Vogelsanger Weg 80 40470 Düsseldorf Tel: +49-211-74845-0 Fax: +49-211-74845-299 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet: http://www.wapme-systems.de --- wapme.net - wherever you are
RE: UCP protocol with GSM modem
In fact, I would like Kannel to 'deliver' SMS to my terminal application. Here is the schema: Mobile phone -- (submit)--> SMSC ---(deliver)--> Siemens M20 ---> Kannel --(deliver)--> My PC(UCP API) Can you confirm that it's not possible? Thanks. Sarah Tronet. -Original Message-From: Andreas Fink [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 5:12 PMTo: Tronet SarahCc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Braud ArnaudSubject: Re: UCP protocol with GSM modem On Dienstag, April 1, 2003, at 05:06 Uhr, Tronet Sarah wrote: Hi, As far as I know, it is possible to connect Kannel to the mobile network via a GSM modem (e.g. Siemens M20). In that case, I would like to connect my terminal application to Kannel via UCP-EMI protocol as if Kannel was my SMSC in order to receive SMS from the mobile network? No. Kannel implements the User side of EMI/UCP but not the server side. You can use HTTP to sumbit to a EMI/UCP SMSC or via a GSM modem but you can not drive kannel for submitting in EMI/UCP. For that you need a real SMSC or SMSC emulation Andreas Fink Global Networks Switzerland AG -- Tel: +41-61-333 Fax: +41-61-334 Mobile: +41-79-2457333 Global Networks, Inc. Clarastrasse 3, 4058 Basel, Switzerland Web: http://www.global-networks.ch/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Send SMS to +979 979 UNICEF (+979979864233) to donate a small amount to the children of Iraq. http://www.gni.ch/unicef
CDR output
Has anyone implemented a CDR interface on to Kannel. I'm not talking a billing engine, just something that outputs simple CD records that can be processed elsewhere ? Steve -- NetTek Ltd Phone/Fax +44-(0)20 7483 2455 SMS steve-pager (at) gbnet.net [body] gpg 1024D/468952DB 2001-09-19
Re: UCP protocol with GSM modem
On Dienstag, April 1, 2003, at 05:06 Uhr, Tronet Sarah wrote: Hi, As far as I know, it is possible to connect Kannel to the mobile network via a GSM modem (e.g. Siemens M20). In that case, I would like to connect my terminal application to Kannel via UCP-EMI protocol as if Kannel was my SMSC in order to receive SMS from the mobile network? No. Kannel implements the User side of EMI/UCP but not the server side. You can use HTTP to sumbit to a EMI/UCP SMSC or via a GSM modem but you can not drive kannel for submitting in EMI/UCP. For that you need a real SMSC or SMSC emulation Andreas Fink Global Networks Switzerland AG -- Tel: +41-61-333 Fax: +41-61-334 Mobile: +41-79-2457333 Global Networks, Inc. Clarastrasse 3, 4058 Basel, Switzerland Web: http://www.global-networks.ch/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Send SMS to +979 979 UNICEF (+979979864233) to donate a small amount to the children of Iraq. http://www.gni.ch/unicef
UCP protocol with GSM modem
Hi, As far as I know, it is possible to connect Kannel to the mobile network via a GSM modem (e.g. Siemens M20). In that case, I would like to connect my terminal application to Kannel via UCP-EMI protocol as if Kannel was my SMSC in order to receive SMS from the mobile network? Thanks in advance. Sarah Tronet SIEMENS Réseaux Informatiques et Télécommunications > 3, rue Blaise Pascal > 22300 LANNION > Phone : + 33 (0)2 96 48 74 11 > Fax : + 33 (0)2 96 48 74 73 > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://intranet.srit.siemens.fr/group/d2/ > >
[patch] AT2 Modem open fix and smsc_http compatibility
A couple of small patches attached. The first uses the correct dialer_open functions (afai can tell) to open the modem when trying to autodetect it's speed. This has been working here fine with me and fixes problems I have had with troublesome wavecome units. The second allows backward parameter compatibility for the smsc_http with the cgi-bin/sendsms parameters. One use to use 'user' and 'pass' and the other 'username' and 'password', so I've now made it possible to use 'username' and 'password' for both. I've also left in the originals too so that nothing should break. Alex CTO Skywire http://www.skywire.co.uk/ at2_open_patch.diff Description: Binary data smsc_http_diff Description: Binary data
Re: [RFC] changing sms.validity/sms.deferred to unix timestamp
Hi, On Tuesday 01 April 2003 13:16, Dziugas Baltrunas wrote: > Hi, > > does it mean that it would be up to the user's application in order to > submit _valid_ timestamp? not really... We can keep old behaviour in smsbox/wapbox (it's our extern interface), but change this for internally interface smsbox<->bearerbox ... So all your apps works as expected but internally we will have correct timestamps... > so I wish to make message validity 2 days long, > everytime I have to calculate "future" timestamp, ie. localtime() + > 2*24*60. shouldn't it be done somehow automatically? see above... but as example: validity 2 days long, so your send to smsbox 2*24*60 , smsbox send to bearerbox localtime(...) + 2*24*60 > regards, > Dziugas Baltrunas > > On Tue, 1 Apr 2003, Alexander Malysh wrote: > > Hi list, > > > > i would be like to ask, why are validity and deferred in kannel in > > minutes instead of e.g. unix timestamp. I can see that all driver convert > > this to unix timestamp like this: gw_localtime(...) + validity*60... > > > > Second point is that if message can't be send immediately (e.g. Link was > > offline) then our validity and deferred values are not correct, because > > we allways increase our localtime with validity/deferred value. > > > > I believe, deferred/validity values must be absolut instead of relativ to > > sendtime... > > > > Should we change validity and deferred values to unix timestamps to avoid > > unnecessary converting and wrong values? > > > > Comments please ... > > > > -- > > Best Regards / Mit besten Grüßen aus Köln > > > > Dipl.-Ing. > > Alexander Malysh > > ___ > > > > Centrium GmbH > > Ehrenstrasse 2 > > 50672 Köln > > > > Fon: +49 (0221) 277 49 240 > > Fax: +49 (0221) 277 49 109 > > > > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > web: http://www.centrium.de > > msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Best Regards / Mit besten Grüßen aus Köln Dipl.-Ing. Alexander Malysh ___ Centrium GmbH Ehrenstrasse 2 50672 Köln Fon: +49 (0221) 277 49 240 Fax: +49 (0221) 277 49 109 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: http://www.centrium.de msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] smime.p7s Description: signature
Re: [RFC] changing sms.validity/sms.deferred to unix timestamp
Hi, does it mean that it would be up to the user's application in order to submit _valid_ timestamp? so I wish to make message validity 2 days long, everytime I have to calculate "future" timestamp, ie. localtime() + 2*24*60. shouldn't it be done somehow automatically? regards, Dziugas Baltrunas On Tue, 1 Apr 2003, Alexander Malysh wrote: > Hi list, > > i would be like to ask, why are validity and deferred in kannel in minutes > instead of e.g. unix timestamp. I can see that all driver convert this to > unix timestamp like this: gw_localtime(...) + validity*60... > > Second point is that if message can't be send immediately (e.g. Link was > offline) then our validity and deferred values are not correct, because we > allways increase our localtime with validity/deferred value. > > I believe, deferred/validity values must be absolut instead of relativ to > sendtime... > > Should we change validity and deferred values to unix timestamps to avoid > unnecessary converting and wrong values? > > Comments please ... > > -- > Best Regards / Mit besten Grüßen aus Köln > > Dipl.-Ing. > Alexander Malysh > ___ > > Centrium GmbH > Ehrenstrasse 2 > 50672 Köln > > Fon: +49 (0221) 277 49 240 > Fax: +49 (0221) 277 49 109 > > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > web: http://www.centrium.de > msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
[RFC] changing sms.validity/sms.deferred to unix timestamp
Hi list, i would be like to ask, why are validity and deferred in kannel in minutes instead of e.g. unix timestamp. I can see that all driver convert this to unix timestamp like this: gw_localtime(...) + validity*60... Second point is that if message can't be send immediately (e.g. Link was offline) then our validity and deferred values are not correct, because we allways increase our localtime with validity/deferred value. I believe, deferred/validity values must be absolut instead of relativ to sendtime... Should we change validity and deferred values to unix timestamps to avoid unnecessary converting and wrong values? Comments please ... -- Best Regards / Mit besten Grüßen aus Köln Dipl.-Ing. Alexander Malysh ___ Centrium GmbH Ehrenstrasse 2 50672 Köln Fon: +49 (0221) 277 49 240 Fax: +49 (0221) 277 49 109 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: http://www.centrium.de msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] smime.p7s Description: signature
Re: MMS trials, getting insane trying to decode pdu's!
On Tuesday, April 1, 2003, at 10:00 AM, Stipe Tolj wrote: "Bas A. Schulte" wrote: Hmm. How on earth would I have known that? :) I figured with about 3 documents in front of me I'd have enough but no! I also need the WSP spec (WAP-203-WSP-2504-a.pdf in WAP 1.2.1 which is WAP-230-WSP-20010705-a.pdf in WAP 2.0)... Luckily that one has some examples on decoding. Those specs are really hard to work with! Read rules in WAP-203 chapter 8.4.2.1. These state that data one octet long should be represented as a short integer (all other 'protocol types' has their rules, too. Aarno
Re: sequence number question
Stipe Tolj wrote: Hmm, why don't you leave it running? That's why it's made. I do leave it running :) . What about SIGHUP ? I use that after log rotation. I remember from the mail archives that this causes kannel to reopen the log file but does it reset the sequence number ? Thanks.
Re: sms message format to access URLs
Steven Sabado wrote: > > may i ask if what is the specific format on how to > access the http using a simple sms message? do i need > a specific format in order to a url site? and if there > are key words, does kannel have it's own keywords or > does the developer need to specify it's own key words? > thanks in advance :) I guess most answers are within the user's guide: http://www.kannel.org/download/kannel-userguide-snapshot/userguide.html Stipe [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Wapme Systems AG Vogelsanger Weg 80 40470 Düsseldorf Tel: +49-211-74845-0 Fax: +49-211-74845-299 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet: http://www.wapme-systems.de --- wapme.net - wherever you are
Re: sequence number question
Kwok Peng Tuck wrote: > > I see in the logs(bearerbox) that whenever a submit_sm or deliver_sm is > made a sequence_number > is also there. I need to be able to tally the submit_sm and deliver_sm. > My question then is, if we restart kannel > (shutdown, startup) will the sequence_number start from zero ? Kannel is not able to store the sequence number for later restarts. So it gets starting from the beginning as soon as you shutdown or restart, yes. Hmm, why don't you leave it running? That's why it's made. Stipe [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Wapme Systems AG Vogelsanger Weg 80 40470 Düsseldorf Tel: +49-211-74845-0 Fax: +49-211-74845-299 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet: http://www.wapme-systems.de --- wapme.net - wherever you are
Re: MMS trials, getting insane trying to decode pdu's!
"Bas A. Schulte" wrote: > > Hmm. How on earth would I have known that? :) I figured with about 3 > documents in front of me I'd have enough but no! I also need the WSP > spec (WAP-203-WSP-2504-a.pdf in WAP 1.2.1 which is > WAP-230-WSP-20010705-a.pdf in WAP 2.0)... Luckily that one has some > examples on decoding. > > Those specs are really hard to work with! as I said: the entry border is high, but after that *everything* starts to make sense ;) > reading the WSP code in Kannel :) both! When you see how the WSP header code is parsing the headers you'll start to understand the specs too. Maybe we should have commited Kannel's sources as reference to the WAP Forum specs ;)) > Thanks a bunch, gonna do some more decoding today > > BTW, can anyone recommend a good resource on this (besides the specs > themselves)? A book maybe or a web page? Better examples sure would help > out here! I have google'd for those too. No luck. Stipe [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Wapme Systems AG Vogelsanger Weg 80 40470 Düsseldorf Tel: +49-211-74845-0 Fax: +49-211-74845-299 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet: http://www.wapme-systems.de --- wapme.net - wherever you are
